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CHAIRMAN: --Again, reverting to previous experience, those cases which are the most troublesome are those which occur in private streets.
MRS. ELLIOTT: -Mr. Chairman, may I ask if you have any cleansing staff in Prince Edward Road, because outside my door has been like it for two years until I reported it?
CHAIRMAN: --Undoubtedly we have a beat sweeper.
DR. BELL: -Mr. Chairman, this is the last supplementary I want to ask you. When does the Public Works Department consider that a building is completed, whether it is a trench work or a building work. How long after I would consider it completed, because I see there are no further workmen there, do the Public Works Department consider it completed?
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: -Mr. Chairman a building is completed when it gets its occupation permit. Most of the trenches are not dug by the Public Works Department, as I am continually saying. Far more trenches are dug by the Public Utilities, over which we have no control whatsoever, and presumably they decide when their trenches are completed.
MRS. ELLIOTT: -Mr. Chairman, may I ask a real question this time? In cases where a building site is not developed, it is just left idle, is the pavement just left permanently like that for years and years and years, because that is what is happening?
CHAIRMAN: -I am sorry Mrs. ELLIOTT, I do not think there is any rule about it.
MRS. ELLIOTT: -Well, we might as well have no rule about anything.
DR. BELL: --Mr. Chairman, could I ask that this matter be brought once again I seem to do it and have done so for some years, at six-monthly intervals-to the attention of the Public Works Department, so that we may have a little bit more action in future.
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: -Dr. BELL, we do not have armies of inspectors like the Urban Services Department has. We are entirely dependent on the Director's staff for letting us know where are these gutters and so on which are not up to standard. As you say, Mr. Chairman, it seems to be working well. If cases are not being reported perhaps Dr. BELL could let your staff know where they are.
HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL
Statement by Mr. Bernacchi (Regarding Question No. 4).
MR. BERNACCHI: -I would like to make a personal statement at the end of questions to-day, in particular the questions about hawkers. At one time we as a Council had to decide on the issue: to whom hawker licences should be issued for the very limited number of sites available. We as a Council had no case workers and all we could do was to take the facts given by the applicant as true and work on a point system. We eventually asked the Director of Social Welfare for his co-operation. He agreed to having these applications referred to him, and we are most grateful for his co-operation with qualified case workers, who usually visit the applicants individually; in other words, decentralization put into practice.
MOTIONS.
(1) MR. CHEUNG WING-IN, Chairman of the Cemeteries, Crematoria and Funeral Parlours Select Committee, addressed the Chairman and moved:
RESOLVED under By-law 10(1) of the Public Cemeteries By-laws, that the Director of Urban Services be empowered to exhume and remove the human remains of persons from the graves specified in the following public cemeteries and to dispose of the same by burial, cremation or otherwise as the Director may think fit.
Cemetery
Section
Year of Burial
(1) Wo Hop Shek Cemetery, Fanling, New Territories.
(a) Section T.
1960
(2) Sandy Ridge Cemetery, Lo Wu, New Territories.
(b) Roman Catholic Private Lot.
1960
(3) Sandy Ridge (Urn) Cemetery, Lo Wu, New Territories.
(c) Little Sisters of the Poor Private Lot.
1960
All graves in the Government Urn Section.
1964
(4) Prison Cemetery, Stanley.
All graves in the coffin section.
1960
He said: -The purpose of the motion is to empower the Director of Urban Services to carry out a routine exhumation programme for 1966/67 in order to provide space for future burials in the cemeteries concerned. If the motion is passed, notice of the intended exhumation will be published in the usual way in the Government Gazette and in the Chinese press, so that any person who wishes to arrange for private exhumation, may do so.
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CHAIRMAN: --Again, reverting to previous experience, those cases which are the most troublesome are those which occur in private streets.
MRS. ELLIOTT :-)
-Mr. Chairman, may I ask if you have any cleans- ing staff in Prince Edward Road, because outside my door has been like it for two years until I reported it?
CHAIRMAN: --Undoubtedly we have a beat sweeper.
DR. BELL:-Mr. Chairman, this is the last supplementary I want to ask you. When does the Public Works Department consider that a building is completed, whether it is a trench work or a building work. How long after I would consider it completed, because I see there are no further workmen there, do the Public Works Department consider it completed?
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: -Mr. Chairman a building is com- pleted when it gets its occupation permit. Most of the trenches are not dug by the Public Works Department, as I am continually saying. Far more trenches are dug by the Public Utilities, over which we have no control whatsoever, and presumably they decide when their trenches are completed.
MRS. ELLIOTT-Mr. Chairman, may I ask a real question this time? In cases where a building site is not developed, it is just left idle, is the pavement just left permanently like that for years and years and years, because that is what is happening?
CHAIRMAN:-I am sorry Mrs. ELLIOTT, I do not think there is any rule about it.
MRS. ELLIOTT:-Well, we might as well have no rule about anything.
DR. BELL: --Mr. Chairman, could I ask that this matter be brought once again I seem to do it and have done so for some years, at six- monthly intervals-to the attention of the Public Works Department, so that we may have a little bit more action in future.
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKs:-Dr. BELL, we do not have armies of inspectors like the Urban Services Department has. We are entirely dependent on the Director's staff for letting us know where are these gutters and so on which are not up to standard. As you say, Mr. Chairman, it seems to be working well. If cases are not being reported perhaps Dr. BELL could let your staff know where they are.
HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL
Statement by Mr. Bernacchi (Regarding Question No. 4).
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MR. BERNACCHI:-I would like to make a personal statement at the end of questions to-day, in particular the questions about hawkers. At one time we as a Council had to decide on the issue: to whom hawker licences should be issued for the very limited number of sites available. We as a Council had no case workers and all we could do was to take the facts given by the applicant as true and work on a point system. We eventually asked the Director of Social Welfare for his co-operation. He agreed to having these applications referred to him, and we are most grateful for his co-operation with qualified case workers, who usually visit the applicants individually; in other words, decentralization put into practice.
MOTIONS.
(1) MR. CHEUNG WING-IN, Chairman of the Cemeteries, Crematoria and Funeral Parlours Select Committee, addressed the Chairman and moved:
RESOLVED under By-law 10(1) of the Public Cemeteries By-laws, that the Director of Urban Services be em- powered to exhume and remove the human remains of persons from the graves specified in the following public cemeteries and to dispose of the same by burial, crema- tion or otherwise as the Director may think fit.
Cemetery
(1) Wo Hop Shek Cemetery,
Fanling, New Territories.
(2) Sandy Ridge Cemetery,
Lo Wu, New Territories.
(3) Sandy Ridge (Urn) Cemetery, Lo Wu, New Territories.
(4) Prison Cemetery, Stanley.
(a) Section T.
Year of
Section
Burial
All graves in Sections A
in private lots.
1960
and B and including those
1960
(b) Roman Catholic Private Lot.
1960
(c) Little Sisters of the Poor Private Lot.
1960
All graves in the Govern- ment Urn Section.
1964
All graves in the coffin section.
1960
He said:-The purpose of the motion is to empower the Director of Urban Services to carry out a routine exhumation programme for 1966/67 in order to provide space for future burials in the cemeteries concerned. If the motion is passed, notice of the intended exhumation will be published in the usual way in the Government Gazette and in the Chinese press, so that any person who wishes to arrange for private exhumation, may do so.
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