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operation since then. In Ki Lung Street there are about 106 licensed fixed pitch hawkers, and an additional 250 licensed pedlar hawkers in the same street immediately to the north of Sham Shui Po Market. In Pei Ho Street there are 160 licensed fixed pitch hawkers and, in addition, in the section of Pei Ho Street between the Lai Chi Kok and Cheung Sha Wan Roads, about 500 pedlar hawkers, the majority of whom are licensed. In Tai Nan Street there are about 80 licensed pedlar hawkers.

This area is not one of the Hawker Control Force areas and we are basically dependent on the continued co-operation of the Police and the common sense of the licensed hawkers, both pedlars and fixed pitch. Unfortunately, the co-operation of the hawkers is subject to their overriding requirement of making as good a living as possible and as time goes on they expand their sites both outwards and upwards, whilst the co-operation of the Police is subject to other important, the Police indeed think more important, commitments.

Also, in this general area, there are about 50 unlicensed hawkers selling restricted food which, on the licensing laws as now existing, they cannot get a licence to sell i.e. fresh meat, fish, etc. The Police are taking periodic action against these unlicensed hawkers, but they are usually extremely mobile and in fact, "hit" their customers "and run" from the Police.

A large number of cleansing and tidying-up operations have been carried out in this area over the past years. The Hawkers Select Committee decided at its last meeting, in particular reference to another area, but, as a matter of policy generally, that cleansing and tidying operations should be carried out on a regular basis to prevent conditions reaching such a stage of deterioration that the Council through the Urban Services Department had to act on public complaints. In this case, of course, it is a complaint in the very proper form of a question from another member of this Council. I hope such complaints, in future, will be met by this decision on Hawker policy.

DR. LEE:- Mr. Chairman, I believe you will agree that the condition in the area I mention is most crowded, and really there is no order prevailing in it at all. I wonder why this area was excluded from the province of the Hawker Control Force?

MR. BERNACCHI:- Mr. Chairman, I think, Dr. LEE, for the very simple reason that the Hawker Control Force has not enough personnel to take it over.

DR. LEE:- Do you or do you not agree Mr. Chairman, that this is one of the most urgent areas which need to be taken over, even at the expense of other areas?

CHAIRMAN:- Dr. LEE, I do agree with you, and I believe it is the intention that, as soon as numbers permit, this will be the next area where the Hawker Control Force takes charge.

DR. LEE:- Thank you.

(9) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:-

How many licensed establishments are there in Pei Ho Street and Ki Lung Street to sell fresh meat and roast meat? What steps are being taken to see that the licensees are observing the conditions of their licence?

MR. WILFRED S. B. WONG, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:

The answer to the first part of the question is that there are 18 establishments so licensed in these two streets.

The answer to the second part of the question is that these premises are inspected weekly by the District Health Inspector to ensure that the conditions of licence are observed. In addition to these routine visits formal and surprise visits are also paid by senior officers of the department. If a breach of the conditions of licence is found the licensee is verbally warned, and if corrective action is not taken a warning letter is issued by the Secretary of the Council. Should the offence continue in spite of the warning letter, appropriate action to suspend or cancel the licence is recommended to this Council, that is, in practice, to the Delegated Member of the Food and Food Premises Select Committee.

DR. LEE: Mr. Chairman, in spite of this well-established system of fining offending licensees, has anyone to your knowledge been around daily to find those who are really breaking the conditions of a licence?

MR. WONG:- I cannot answer the question as to whether anyone inspects daily, but I can report that an average of forty letters are sent each year and, in the past couple of years, 16 summonses were taken out against establishments for various offences. Seven of these 16 summonses are still pending.

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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 3. 4. 5. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL operation since then. In Ki Lung Street there are about 106 licensed fixed pitch hawkers, and an additional 250 licensed pedlar hawkers in the same street immediately to the north of Sham Shui Po Market. In Pei Ho Street there are 160 licensed fixed pitch hawkers and, in addition, in the section of Pei Ho Street between the Lai Chi Kok and Cheung Sha Wan Roads, about 500 pedlar hawkers, the majority of whom are licensed. In Tai Nan Street there are about 80 licensed pedlar hawkers. This area is not one of the Hawker Control Force areas and we are basically dependent on the continued co-operation of the Police and the common sense of the licensed hawkers, both pedlars and fixed pitch. Unfortunately, the co-operation of the hawkers is subject to their overriding requirement of making as good a living as possible and as time goes on they expand their sites both outwards and upwards, whilst the co-operation of the Police is subject to other important, the Police indeed think more important, commitments. Also, in this general area, there are about 50 unlicensed hawkers selling restricted food which, on the licensing laws as now existing, they cannot get a licence to sell i.e. fresh meat, fish, etc. The Police are taking periodic action against these unlicensed hawkers, but they are usually extremely mobile and in fact, "hit" their customers "and run" from the Police. A large number of cleansing and tidying-up operations have been carried out in this area over the past years. The Hawkers Select Committee decided at its last meeting, in particular reference to another area, but, as a matter of policy generally, that cleansing and tidying operations should be carried out on a regular basis to prevent conditions reaching such a stage of deterioration that the Council through the Urban Services Department had to act on public complaints. In this case, of course, it is a complaint in the very proper form of a question from another member of this Council. I hope such complaints, in future, will be met by this decision on Hawker policy. DR. LEE:- Mr. Chairman, I believe you will agree that the condition in the area I mention is most crowded, and really there is no order prevailing in it at all. I wonder why this area was excluded from the province of the Hawker Control Force? MR. BERNACCHI:- Mr. Chairman, I think, Dr. LEE, for the very simple reason that the Hawker Control Force has not enough personnel to take it over. DR. LEE:- Do you or do you not agree Mr. Chairman, that this is one of the most urgent areas which need to be taken over, even at the expense of other areas? CHAIRMAN:- Dr. LEE, I do agree with you, and I believe it is the intention that, as soon as numbers permit, this will be the next area where the Hawker Control Force takes charge. DR. LEE:- Thank you. (9) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:- How many licensed establishments are there in Pei Ho Street and Ki Lung Street to sell fresh meat and roast meat? What steps are being taken to see that the licensees are observing the conditions of their licence? MR. WILFRED S. B. WONG, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows: The answer to the first part of the question is that there are 18 establishments so licensed in these two streets. The answer to the second part of the question is that these premises are inspected weekly by the District Health Inspector to ensure that the conditions of licence are observed. In addition to these routine visits formal and surprise visits are also paid by senior officers of the department. If a breach of the conditions of licence is found the licensee is verbally warned, and if corrective action is not taken a warning letter is issued by the Secretary of the Council. Should the offence continue in spite of the warning letter, appropriate action to suspend or cancel the licence is recommended to this Council, that is, in practice, to the Delegated Member of the Food and Food Premises Select Committee. DR. LEE: Mr. Chairman, in spite of this well-established system of fining offending licensees, has anyone to your knowledge been around daily to find those who are really breaking the conditions of a licence? MR. WONG:- I cannot answer the question as to whether anyone inspects daily, but I can report that an average of forty letters are sent each year and, in the past couple of years, 16 summonses were taken out against establishments for various offences. Seven of these 16 summonses are still pending. F279 Page 143 of 279 261 260 Page 143 of 279

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F279 Page 143 of 279 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Page 143 of 279 261 260 3. 4. 5. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL operation since then. In Ki Lung Street there are about 106 licensed fixed pitch hawkers, and an additional 250 licensed pedlar hawkers in the same street immediately to the north of Sham Shui Po Market. In Pei Ho Street there are 160 licensed fixed pitch hawkers and, in addi- tion, in the section of Pei Ho Street between the Lai Chi Kok and Cheung Sha Wan Roads, about 500 pedlar hawkers, the majority of whom are licensed. In Tai Nan Street there are about 80 licensed pedlar hawkers. This area is not one of the Hawker Control Force areas and we are basically dependant on the continued co- operation of the Police and the common sense of the licensed hawkers, both pedlars and fixed pitch. Un- fortunately, the co-operation of the hawkers is subject to their overriding requirement of making as good a living as possible and as time goes on they expand their sites both outwards and upwards, whilst the co-operation of the Police is subject to other important, the Police indeed think more important, commitments. Also, in this general area, there are about 50 unlicensed hawkers selling restricted food which, on the licensing laws as now existing, they cannot get licence to sell i.e. fresh meat, fish, etc. The Police are taking periodic action against these unlicensed hawkers, but they are usually extremely mobile and in fact, "hit" their customers "and run" from the Police. A large number of cleansing and tidying-up operations have been carried out in this area over the past years. The Hawkers Select Committee decided at its last meeting, in particular reference to another area, but, as a matter of policy generally, that cleansing and tidying operations should be carried out on a regular basis to prevent con- ditions reaching such a stage of deterioration that the Council through the Urban Services Department had to act on public complaints. In this case, of course, it is a complaint in the very proper form of a question from another member of this Council. I hope such complaints, in future, will be met by this decision on Hawker policy. DR. LEE:-Mr. Chairman, I believe you will agree that the con- dition in the area I mention is most crowded, and really there is no order prevailing in it at all. I wonder why this area was excluded from the province of the Hawker Control Force? MR. BERNACCHI:-Mr. Chairman, I think, Dr. LEE, for the very simple reason that the Hawker Control Force has not enough personnel to take it over. DR. LEE:--Do you or do you not agree Mr. Chairman, that this is one of the most urgent areas which need to be taken over, even at the expense of other areas? CHAIRMAN:-Dr. LEE, I do agree with you, and I believe it is the intention that, as soon as numbers permit, this will be the next area where the Hawker Control Force takes charge. DR. LEE:-Thank you. (9) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:- How many licensed establishments are there in Pei Ho Street and Ki Lung Street to sell fresh meat and roast meat? What steps are being taken to see that the licensees are observing the conditions of their licence? MR. WILFRED S. B. WONG, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows: The answer to the first part of the question is that there are 18 establishments so licensed in these two streets. The answer to the second part of the question is that these premises are inspected weekly by the District Health Inspector to ensure that the conditions of licence are observed. In addition to these routine visits formal and surprise visits are also paid by senior officers of the department. If a breach of the conditions of licence is found the licensee is verbally warned, and if corrective action is not taken a warning letter is issued by the Secretary of the Council. Should the offence continue in spite of the warning letter, appropriate action to suspend or cancel the licence is recommended to this Council, that is, in practice, to the Delegated Member of the Food and Food Premises Select Committee. DR. LEE: Mr. Chairman, in spite of this well established system of fining offending licensees, has anyone to your knowledge been around daily to find those who are really breaking the conditions of a licence? MR. WONG:-I cannot answer the question as to whether anyone inspects daily, but I can report that an average of forty letters are sent each year and, in the past couple of years, 16 summonses were taken out against establishments for various offences. Seven of these 16 summonses are still pending.

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operation since then. In Ki Lung Street there are about 106 licensed fixed pitch hawkers, and an additional 250 licensed pedlar hawkers in the same street immediately to the north of Sham Shui Po Market. In Pei Ho Street there are 160 licensed fixed pitch hawkers and, in addi- tion, in the section of Pei Ho Street between the Lai Chi Kok and Cheung Sha Wan Roads, about 500 pedlar hawkers, the majority of whom are licensed. In Tai Nan Street there are about 80 licensed pedlar hawkers.

This area is not one of the Hawker Control Force areas and we are basically dependant on the continued co- operation of the Police and the common sense of the licensed hawkers, both pedlars and fixed pitch. Un- fortunately, the co-operation of the hawkers is subject to their overriding requirement of making as good a living as possible and as time goes on they expand their sites both outwards and upwards, whilst the co-operation of the Police is subject to other important, the Police indeed think more important, commitments.

Also, in this general area, there are about 50 unlicensed hawkers selling restricted food which, on the licensing laws as now existing, they cannot get licence to sell i.e. fresh meat, fish, etc. The Police are taking periodic action against these unlicensed hawkers, but they are usually extremely mobile and in fact, "hit" their customers "and run" from the Police.

A large number of cleansing and tidying-up operations have been carried out in this area over the past years. The Hawkers Select Committee decided at its last meeting, in particular reference to another area, but, as a matter of policy generally, that cleansing and tidying operations should be carried out on a regular basis to prevent con- ditions reaching such a stage of deterioration that the Council through the Urban Services Department had to act on public complaints. In this case, of course, it is a complaint in the very proper form of a question from another member of this Council. I hope such complaints, in future, will be met by this decision on Hawker policy. DR. LEE:-Mr. Chairman, I believe you will agree that the con- dition in the area I mention is most crowded, and really there is no order prevailing in it at all. I wonder why this area was excluded from the province of the Hawker Control Force?

MR. BERNACCHI:-Mr. Chairman, I think, Dr. LEE, for the very simple reason that the Hawker Control Force has not enough personnel to take it over.

DR. LEE:--Do you or do you not agree Mr. Chairman, that this is one of the most urgent areas which need to be taken over, even at the expense of other areas?

CHAIRMAN:-Dr. LEE, I do agree with you, and I believe it is the intention that, as soon as numbers permit, this will be the next area where the Hawker Control Force takes charge.

DR. LEE:-Thank you.

(9) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:-

MR. WILFRED S. B. WONG, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:

The answer to the first part of the question is that there are

18 establishments so licensed in these two streets.

DR. LEE:

Mr. Chairman, in spite of this well established system of fining offending licensees, has anyone to your knowledge been around daily to find those who are really breaking the conditions of a licence?

MR. WONG:-I cannot answer the question as to whether anyone inspects daily, but I can report that an average of forty letters are sent each year and, in the past couple of years, 16 summonses were taken out against establishments for various offences. Seven of these 16 summonses are still pending.

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