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refuse always increases very substantially. For example, on the Island between the 10th and 21st of January, the quantity of refuse increased from the normal eight barge loads a day to a peak of eighteen loads a day—a rise of well over 100%. This year, the extra quantity was handled satisfactorily and conditions were not too bad bearing in mind that no cleansing services operate on the first day of Chinese New Year.

In any event I certainly am not aware that conditions at the collection points have deteriorated so as to constitute a menace to public health.

In answer to the first part of the question, steps are taken to improve conditions at refuse collection stops as part of a continuous process. For example, in the second half of 1965 the number of refuse collection points in Sham Shui Po and Cheung Sha Wan cleansing areas was reduced by almost one half. In November the refuse collection routes in Hong Kong East cleansing area were completely re-organized. A feature of the reorganization was an earlier start in the morning collections. The routes in Hong Kong Eastern-Central Area are currently being replanned on similar lines. In Mong Kok a trailer has been put into service to replace the refuse collection stop in the vicinity of the Fa Yuen Street market, and a proposal has been approved to construct trailer bays in 2 market compounds elsewhere in Kowloon. These measures are designed to reduce the incidence of accumulations of refuse at the collection points.

In answer to the second part of the question, as shown in the monthly publicity reports, in the past six months there have been 833 prosecutions for dumping of refuse and 380 cases of prosecution of private refuse collectors for various offences. Consideration has not been given to the erection of warning notices at collection points, but this possibility will be considered. I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, that the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee, of which Mr. CHEUNG Wing-in is a member, will continue to encourage the department in its efforts to effect improvements at the stops, and indeed will urge it to increase its efforts, particularly in the side streets.

MR. SALES:- Mr. Chairman, Dr. LEE said in the third paragraph of his reply, that he was not aware that conditions at the collection points had deteriorated. Am I to understand, Sir, that the complaints

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which are made to your Department by various members of the Council are not brought to the attention of Dr. LEE and his Select Committee?

CHAIRMAN:- I think in general, Sir, they would be. I would have to look up this specific complaint and see what happened to it.

MR. SALES:- Sir, I receive complaints regularly about just such conditions, and I would like them in the future to be brought to the attention of Dr. LEE, and I would also like to invite Dr. LEE, through you Sir, to accompany me on a tour of my ward, for Dr. LEE to see for himself the disgraceful condition of some of the side streets in Tsim Sha Tsui and Yau Ma Tei.

CHAIRMAN:- Sir, I will be glad to accept your invitation.

MR. SALES: Thank you, Sir. Does Dr. LEE also accept it?

DR. LEE:- I am quite aware of it, Mr. Chairman. I continue to make the complaint myself.

DR. BELL:- Mr. Chairman, may I have your permission to tell Mr. SALES to be sure to keep it very quiet, because if you are inviting anybody to go around, it has a way of leaking out, and you find a tremendous battalion of street cleaners get to work. (Laughter).

MR. SALES: I am aware, Sir, that when you visited Dr. BELL'S ward they had been notified ahead of time, and the place was spotlessly clean. (Laughter).

MR. FUNG: Mr. Chairman, may I ask Dr. LEE, through you, whose duty it is to designate these collection points.

CHAIRMAN:- Collection points are worked out by the staff of the Department in Headquarters, the number and general situation of the collection points.

MR. FUNG:- Would you kindly be more specific—what kind of staff senior or junior?

CHAIRMAN:- The senior staff, Sir.

MR. FUNG:- The senior staff. Sir, in view of the public allegation of immoral practice arising from the power to designate these collection points, may I request that this question be referred to the Select Committee for further discussion?

DR. LEE:- I will certainly ask the Secretary to take note of it and put it on the agenda for the next Environmental Hygiene Select Committee meeting.

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Page 335 of 382 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL refuse always increases very substantially. For example, on the Island between the 10th and 21st of January, the quantity of refuse increased from the normal eight barge loads a day to a peak of eighteen loads a day—a rise of well over 100%. This year, the extra quantity was handled satisfactorily and conditions were not too bad bearing in mind that no cleansing services operate on the first day of Chinese New Year. In any event I certainly am not aware that conditions at the collection points have deteriorated so as to constitute a menace to public health. In answer to the first part of the question, steps are taken to improve conditions at refuse collection stops as part of a continuous process. For example, in the second half of 1965 the number of refuse collection points in Sham Shui Po and Cheung Sha Wan cleansing areas was reduced by almost one half. In November the refuse collection routes in Hong Kong East cleansing area were completely re-organized. A feature of the reorganization was an earlier start in the morning collections. The routes in Hong Kong Eastern-Central Area are currently being replanned on similar lines. In Mong Kok a trailer has been put into service to replace the refuse collection stop in the vicinity of the Fa Yuen Street market, and a proposal has been approved to construct trailer bays in 2 market compounds elsewhere in Kowloon. These measures are designed to reduce the incidence of accumulations of refuse at the collection points. In answer to the second part of the question, as shown in the monthly publicity reports, in the past six months there have been 833 prosecutions for dumping of refuse and 380 cases of prosecution of private refuse collectors for various offences. Consideration has not been given to the erection of warning notices at collection points, but this possibility will be considered. I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, that the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee, of which Mr. CHEUNG Wing-in is a member, will continue to encourage the department in its efforts to effect improvements at the stops, and indeed will urge it to increase its efforts, particularly in the side streets. MR. SALES:- Mr. Chairman, Dr. LEE said in the third paragraph of his reply, that he was not aware that conditions at the collection points had deteriorated. Am I to understand, Sir, that the complaints HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 649 which are made to your Department by various members of the Council are not brought to the attention of Dr. LEE and his Select Committee? CHAIRMAN:- I think in general, Sir, they would be. I would have to look up this specific complaint and see what happened to it. MR. SALES:- Sir, I receive complaints regularly about just such conditions, and I would like them in the future to be brought to the attention of Dr. LEE, and I would also like to invite Dr. LEE, through you Sir, to accompany me on a tour of my ward, for Dr. LEE to see for himself the disgraceful condition of some of the side streets in Tsim Sha Tsui and Yau Ma Tei. CHAIRMAN:- Sir, I will be glad to accept your invitation. MR. SALES: Thank you, Sir. Does Dr. LEE also accept it? DR. LEE:- I am quite aware of it, Mr. Chairman. I continue to make the complaint myself. DR. BELL:- Mr. Chairman, may I have your permission to tell Mr. SALES to be sure to keep it very quiet, because if you are inviting anybody to go around, it has a way of leaking out, and you find a tremendous battalion of street cleaners get to work. (Laughter). MR. SALES: I am aware, Sir, that when you visited Dr. BELL'S ward they had been notified ahead of time, and the place was spotlessly clean. (Laughter). MR. FUNG: Mr. Chairman, may I ask Dr. LEE, through you, whose duty it is to designate these collection points. CHAIRMAN:- Collection points are worked out by the staff of the Department in Headquarters, the number and general situation of the collection points. MR. FUNG:- Would you kindly be more specific—what kind of staff senior or junior? CHAIRMAN:- The senior staff, Sir. MR. FUNG:- The senior staff. Sir, in view of the public allegation of immoral practice arising from the power to designate these collection points, may I request that this question be referred to the Select Committee for further discussion? DR. LEE:- I will certainly ask the Secretary to take note of it and put it on the agenda for the next Environmental Hygiene Select Committee meeting. Page 335 Page 336 382

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382 R Page 335 of 382 648 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL refuse always increases very substantially. For example, on the Island between the 10th and 21st of January, the quantity of refuse increased from the normal eight barge loads a day to a peak of eighteen loads a day--a rise of well over 100%. This year, the extra quantity was handled satisfactorily and conditions were not too bad bearing in mind that no cleansing services operate on the first day of Chinese New Year. In any event I certainly am not aware that conditions at the collection points have deteriorated so as to constitute a menace to public health. In answer to the first part of the question, steps are taken to improve conditions at refuse collection stops as part of a continuous process. For example, in the second half of 1965 the number of refuse collection points in Sham Shui Po and Cheung Sha Wan cleansing areas was reduced by almost one half. In November the refuse collection routes in Hong Kong East cleansing area were completely re- organized. A feature of the reorganization was an earlier start in the morning collections. The routes in Hong Kong Eastern-Central Area are currently being replanned on similar lines. In Mong Kok a trailer has been put into service to replace the refuse collection stop in the vicinity of the Fa Yuen Street market, and a proposal has been approved to construct trailer bays in 2 market compounds elsewhere in Kowloon. These measures are designed to reduce the incidence of accumulations of refuse at the collection points. In answer to the second part of the question, as shown in the monthly publicity reports, in the past six months there have been 833 prosecutions for dumping of refuse and 380 cases of prosecution of private refuse collectors for various offences. Consideration has not been given to the erection of warning notices at collection points, but this possibility will be considered. I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, that the Environmental Hygiene Select Com- mittee, of which Mr. CHEUNG Wing-in is a member, will continue to encourage the department in its efforts to effect improvements at the stops, and indeed will urge it to increase its efforts, particularly in the side streets. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, Dr. LEE said in the third paragraph of his reply, that he was not aware that conditions at the collection points had deteriorated. Am I to understand, Sir, that the complaints HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 649. which are made to your Department by various members of the Council are not brought to the attention of Dr. LEE and his Select Committee? CHAIRMAN:-I think in general, Sir, they would be. I would have to look up this specific complaint and see what happened to it. MR. SALES-Sir, I receive complaints regularly about just such conditions, and I would like them in the future to be brought to the attention of Dr. LEE, and I would also like to invite Dr. LEE, through you Sir, to accompany me on a tour of my ward, for Dr. LEE to see for himself the disgraceful condition of some of the side streets in Tsim Sha Tsui and Yau Ma Tei. CHAIRMAN:-Sir, I will be glad to accept your invitation. MR. SALES: Thank you, Sir. Does Dr. LEE also accept it? DR. LEE:-1 am quite aware of it, Mr. Chairman. I continue to make the complaint myself. DR. BELL:-Mr. Chairman, may I have your permission to tell Mr. SALES to be sure to keep it very quiet, because if you are inviting anybody to go around, it has a way of leaking out, and you find a tremendous battalion of street cleaners get to work. (Laughter). MR. SALES: I am aware, Sir, that when you visited Dr. BELL'S ward they had been notified ahead of time, and the place was spotlessly clean. (Laughter). MR. FUNG: Mr. Chairman, may I ask Dr. LEE, through you, whose duty it is to designate these collection points. CHAIRMAN :-Collection points are worked out by the staff of the Department in Headquarters, the number and general situation of the collection points. MR. FUNG:--Would you kindly be more specific-what kind of staff senior or junior? CHAIRMAN:-The senior staff, Sir. MR. FUNG:--The senior staff. Sir, in view of the public allegation of immoral practice arising from the power to designate these collection points, may I request that this question be referred to the Select Com- mittee for further discussion? DR. LEE:-I will certainly ask the Secretary to take note of it and put it on the agenda for the next Environmental Hygiene Select Com- mittee meeting. Page 335Page 336 1382

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refuse always increases very substantially. For example, on the Island between the 10th and 21st of January, the quantity of refuse increased from the normal eight barge loads a day to a peak of eighteen loads a day--a rise of well over 100%. This year, the extra quantity was handled satisfactorily and conditions were not too bad bearing in mind that no cleansing services operate on the first day of Chinese New Year.

In any event I certainly am not aware that conditions at the collection points have deteriorated so as to constitute a menace to public health.

In answer to the first part of the question, steps are taken to improve conditions at refuse collection stops as part of a continuous process. For example, in the second half of 1965 the number of refuse collection points in Sham Shui Po and Cheung Sha Wan cleansing areas was reduced by almost one half. In November the refuse collection routes in Hong Kong East cleansing area were completely re- organized. A feature of the reorganization was an earlier start in the morning collections. The routes in Hong Kong Eastern-Central Area are currently being replanned on similar lines. In Mong Kok a trailer has been put into service to replace the refuse collection stop in the vicinity of the Fa Yuen Street market, and a proposal has been approved to construct trailer bays in 2 market compounds elsewhere in Kowloon. These measures are designed to reduce the incidence of accumulations of refuse at the collection points.

In answer to the second part of the question, as shown in the monthly publicity reports, in the past six months there have been 833 prosecutions for dumping of refuse and 380 cases of prosecution of private refuse collectors for various offences. Consideration has not been given to the erection of warning notices at collection points, but this possibility will be considered. I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, that the Environmental Hygiene Select Com- mittee, of which Mr. CHEUNG Wing-in is a member, will continue to encourage the department in its efforts to effect improvements at the stops, and indeed will urge it to increase its efforts, particularly in the side streets.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, Dr. LEE said in the third paragraph of his reply, that he was not aware that conditions at the collection points had deteriorated. Am I to understand, Sir, that the complaints

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which are made to your Department by various members of the Council are not brought to the attention of Dr. LEE and his Select Committee?

CHAIRMAN:-I think in general, Sir, they would be. I would have to look up this specific complaint and see what happened to it.

MR. SALES-Sir, I receive complaints regularly about just such conditions, and I would like them in the future to be brought to the attention of Dr. LEE, and I would also like to invite Dr. LEE, through you Sir, to accompany me on a tour of my ward, for Dr. LEE to see for himself the disgraceful condition of some of the side streets in Tsim Sha Tsui and Yau Ma Tei.

CHAIRMAN:-Sir, I will be glad to accept your invitation.

MR. SALES: Thank you, Sir. Does Dr. LEE also accept it?

DR. LEE:-1 am quite aware of it, Mr. Chairman. I continue to make the complaint myself.

DR. BELL:-Mr. Chairman, may I have your permission to tell Mr. SALES to be sure to keep it very quiet, because if you are inviting anybody to go around, it has a way of leaking out, and you find a tremendous battalion of street cleaners get to work. (Laughter).

MR. SALES: I am aware, Sir, that when you visited Dr. BELL'S ward they had been notified ahead of time, and the place was spotlessly clean. (Laughter).

MR. FUNG: Mr. Chairman, may I ask Dr. LEE, through you, whose duty it is to designate these collection points.

CHAIRMAN :-Collection points are worked out by the staff of the Department in Headquarters, the number and general situation of the collection points.

MR. FUNG:--Would you kindly be more specific-what kind of staff senior or junior?

CHAIRMAN:-The senior staff, Sir.

MR. FUNG:--The senior staff. Sir, in view of the public allegation of immoral practice arising from the power to designate these collection points, may I request that this question be referred to the Select Com- mittee for further discussion?

DR. LEE:-I will certainly ask the Secretary to take note of it and put it on the agenda for the next Environmental Hygiene Select Com- mittee meeting.

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