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for site formation. There are other areas along Lung Cheung Road where there will undoubtedly be tall buildings, and I think it would be quite unrealistic to suggest that we should not permit tall buildings wherever there is a view, because almost every road that is built in Hong Kong opens up a view. There is also this crying need for housing, whether it is Resettlement housing, or Housing Authority housing, or private development. I think this goes equally well with the scars on the hillsides. The biggest scar which I see when I come to work every day is that which is being caused by the Tsz Wan Shan Resettlement Estate, and here is another case where it would be completely unrealistic to say that we are not to do any development because we are spoiling the amenities. We are spoiling the amenities, but we have got to go on with the vast building programme.

On the particular point which Mr. FUNG Hon-chu has raised, when I came back from home leave 4 months' ago, I saw this building going up and I raised the same question in my office as to why this building was going up and who had permitted it. The answer was that the particular lease conditions there did not have a design disposition clause in, and it is extremely doubtful if we could, in fact, have stopped development if we had wanted to. There is another building going up at Magazine Gap itself. That did have a design disposition clause in the lease conditions and we could therefore have kept the height down but it simply comes to a point of is it being reasonable to keep the height down? It was a redevelopment, not a new lot, and they applied for modifications to this lot.

To try to be fair and reasonable in these matters, we work broadly on the basis that at Stubbs Road and Magazine Gap Road, there are now quite a number of sitting-out areas where cars can drive in to allow tourists to get out and take photographs. I think it is here in particular that we should try to maintain the views. I deprecate the blocking of views as much as anyone, but I simply do not think it is realistic to say that as one is driving along a road a new building will block the view. It is just one of those things which we have got to face. If we go back to 40 years ago, and I remember Magazine Gap myself when I was a child, buildings with two storeys which we have all come to accept as quite standard and normal have gone up in the last 40 years and they have blocked the view. I think it is simply a question of trying to look at the situation realistically but we are doing what we can, I assure you.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, may I say that I am very greatly reassured by what our colleague the Director of Public Works has said and my sympathy is wholly with him. He has such a large department that evidently he cannot be expected to know everything that is being done. Now the particular section of Lung Cheung Road, to which I referred and at which a very tall building is about to be

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finished, is just next to a garden which has been given to the Urban Amenities Select Committee to develop, and a platform from which our Kowloon residents can view the passing scene. In the future if they have the opportunity of taking photographs, the photographs will consist largely of very high buildings which are no doubt the intended character of that locality.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-Mr. Chairman, while I greatly appreciate Mr. SALES' remarks, I think that I said at the beginning that Lung Cheung Road was never considered as an amenity road or a road which opened up natural beauty. If one is going to think of roads of natural beauty in Kowloon, I have already mentioned Tai Po Road. There are also excellent views on the Castle Peak Road between Tsuen Wan and Castle Peak, and if one wants views of the harbour from Kowloon, and the airport runway, I suggest that the road up by Tate's Cairn and along Lion Rock is a far better vantage point for tourists and even residents.

MR. WATSON:-Mr. Chairman, the Director of Public Works has hinted at the difficulty of obtaining granite for building purposes. I wonder if the objections to siting quarries in water catchment areas could be overcome, because if they could, this would open up large areas for quarrying where the quarries would not be visible to very many people at all.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: -Mr. Chairman, this is certainly one matter which I will look into myself because I am not entirely satisfied with this bar on siting quarries in catchment areas.

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MRS. ELLEN LI SHU-PUI asked the following question:-

In view of the recent instance of malnutrition of infants as a result of being fed on a defective milk powder, may I ask what form of control is maintained over the manufacture of such products? What are the requirements for the granting of a licence to a factory for the production of baby food and what control is there over the standard of quality of such a product?

I should also like to know whether regular inspections are carried out to ensure that the product maintains the quality standard and that it is being manufactured under hygienic conditions?

THE ACTING DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES replied as follows:

By-law 31 of the Food Business By-laws 1960 requires that no food factory, that is a food business involving the manu-

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534 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL for site formation. There are other areas along Lung Cheung Road where there will undoubtedly be tall buildings, and I think it would be quite unrealistic to suggest that we should not permit tall buildings wherever there is a view, because almost every road that is built in Hong Kong opens up a view. There is also this crying need for housing, whether it is Resettlement housing, or Housing Authority housing, or private development. I think this goes equally well with the scars on the hillsides. The biggest scar which I see when I come to work every day is that which is being caused by the Tsz Wan Shan Resettlement Estate, and here is another case where it would be completely unrealistic to say that we are not to do any development because we are spoiling the amenities. We are spoiling the amenities, but we have got to go on with the vast building programme. On the particular point which Mr. FUNG Hon-chu has raised, when I came back from home leave 4 months' ago, I saw this building going up and I raised the same question in my office as to why this building was going up and who had permitted it. The answer was that the particular lease conditions there did not have a design disposition clause in, and it is extremely doubtful if we could, in fact, have stopped development if we had wanted to. There is another building going up at Magazine Gap itself. That did have a design disposition clause in the lease conditions and we could therefore have kept the height down but it simply comes to a point of is it being reasonable to keep the height down? It was a redevelopment, not a new lot, and they applied for modifications to this lot. To try to be fair and reasonable in these matters, we work broadly on the basis that at Stubbs Road and Magazine Gap Road, there are now quite a number of sitting-out areas where cars can drive in to allow tourists to get out and take photographs. I think it is here in particular that we should try to maintain the views. I deprecate the blocking of views as much as anyone, but I simply do not think it is realistic to say that as one is driving along a road a new building will block the view. It is just one of those things which we have got to face. If we go back to 40 years ago, and I remember Magazine Gap myself when I was a child, buildings with two storeys which we have all come to accept as quite standard and normal have gone up in the last 40 years and they have blocked the view. I think it is simply a question of trying to look at the situation realistically but we are doing what we can, I assure you. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, may I say that I am very greatly reassured by what our colleague the Director of Public Works has said and my sympathy is wholly with him. He has such a large department that evidently he cannot be expected to know everything that is being done. Now the particular section of Lung Cheung Road, to which I referred and at which a very tall building is about to be HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 535 finished, is just next to a garden which has been given to the Urban Amenities Select Committee to develop, and a platform from which our Kowloon residents can view the passing scene. In the future if they have the opportunity of taking photographs, the photographs will consist largely of very high buildings which are no doubt the intended character of that locality. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-Mr. Chairman, while I greatly appreciate Mr. SALES' remarks, I think that I said at the beginning that Lung Cheung Road was never considered as an amenity road or a road which opened up natural beauty. If one is going to think of roads of natural beauty in Kowloon, I have already mentioned Tai Po Road. There are also excellent views on the Castle Peak Road between Tsuen Wan and Castle Peak, and if one wants views of the harbour from Kowloon, and the airport runway, I suggest that the road up by Tate's Cairn and along Lion Rock is a far better vantage point for tourists and even residents. MR. WATSON:-Mr. Chairman, the Director of Public Works has hinted at the difficulty of obtaining granite for building purposes. I wonder if the objections to siting quarries in water catchment areas could be overcome, because if they could, this would open up large areas for quarrying where the quarries would not be visible to very many people at all. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: -Mr. Chairman, this is certainly one matter which I will look into myself because I am not entirely satisfied with this bar on siting quarries in catchment areas. (7) MRS. ELLEN LI SHU-PUI asked the following question:- In view of the recent instance of malnutrition of infants as a result of being fed on a defective milk powder, may I ask what form of control is maintained over the manufacture of such products? What are the requirements for the granting of a licence to a factory for the production of baby food and what control is there over the standard of quality of such a product? I should also like to know whether regular inspections are carried out to ensure that the product maintains the quality standard and that it is being manufactured under hygienic conditions? THE ACTING DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES replied as follows: By-law 31 of the Food Business By-laws 1960 requires that no food factory, that is a food business involving the manu- Page 280 Page 281 $12
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312 534 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL for site formation. There are other areas along Lung Cheung Road where there will undoubtedly be tall buildings, and I think it would be quite unrealistic to suggest that we should not permit tall buildings wherever there is a view, because almost every road that is built in Hong Kong opens up a view. There is also this crying need for housing, whether it is Resettlement housing, or Housing Authority housing, or private development. I think this goes equally well with the scars on the hillsides. The biggest scar which I see when I come to work every day is that which is being caused by the Tsz Wan Shan Resettlement Estate, and here is another case where it would be com- pletely unrealistic to say that we are not to do any development because we are spoiling the amenities. We are spoiling the amenities, but we have got to go on with the vast building programme. On the particular point which Mr. FUNG Hon-chu has raised, when I came back from home leave 4 months' ago, I saw this building going up and I raised the same question in my office as to why this building was going up and who had permitted it. The answer was that the particular lease conditions there did not have a design disposition clause in, and it is extremely doubtful if we could, in fact, have stopped development if we had wanted to. There is another building going up at Magazine Gap itself. That did have a design disposition clause in the lease conditions and we could therefore have kept the height down but it simply comes to a point of is it being reasonable to keep the height down? It was a redevelopment, not a new lot, and they applied for modifications to this lot. To try to be fair and reasonable in these matters, we work broadly on the basis that at Stubbs Road and Magazine Gap Road, there are now quite a number of sitting-out areas where cars can drive in to allow tourists to get out and take photographs. I think it is here in particular that we should try to maintain the views. I deprecate the blocking of views as much as anyone, but I simply do not think it is realistic to say that as one is driving along a road a new building will block the view. It is just one of those things which we have got to face. If we go back to 40 years ago, and I remember Magazine Gap myself when I was a child, buildings with two storeys which we have all come to accept as quite standard and normal have gone up in the last 40 years and they have blocked the view. I think it is simply a question of trying to look at the situation realistically but we are doing what we can, I assure you. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, may I say that I am very greatly reassured by what our colleague the Director of Public Works has said and my sympathy is wholly with him. He has such a large depart- ment that evidently he cannot be expected to know everything that is being done. Now the particular section of Lung Cheung Road, to which I referred and at which a very tall building is about to be HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 535 finished, is just next to a garden which has been given to the Urban Amenities Select Committee to develop, and a platform from which our Kowloon residents can view the passing scene. In the future if they have the opportunity of taking photographs, the photographs will consist largely of very high buildings which are no doubt the intended character of that locality. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-Mr. Chairman, while I greatly appreciate Mr. SALES' remarks, I think that I said at the beginning that Lung Cheung Road was never considered as an amenity road or a road which opened up natural beauty. If one is going to think of roads of natural beauty in Kowloon, I have already mentioned Tai Po Road. There are also excellent views on the Castle Peak Road between Tsuen Wan and Castle Peak, and if one wants views of the harbour from Kowloon, and the airport runway, I suggest that the road up by Tate's Cairn and along Lion Rock is a far better vantage point for tourists and even residents. MR. WATSON:-Mr. Chairman, the Director of Public Works has hinted at the difficulty of obtaining granite for building purposes. I wonder if the objections to siting quarries in water catchment areas could be overcome, because if they could, this would open up large areas for quarrying where the quarries would not be visible to very many people at all. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: -Mr. Chairman, this is certainly one matter which I will look into myself because I am not entirely satisfied with this bar on siting quarries in catchment areas. (7) MRS. ELLEN LI SHU-PUI asked the following question:- In view of the recent instance of malnutrition of infants as a result of being fed on a defective milk powder, may I ask what form of control is maintained over the manufacture of such products? What are the requirements for the granting of a licence to a factory for the production of baby food and what control is there over the standard of quality of such a product? I should also like to know whether regular inspections are carried out to ensure that the product maintains the quality standard and that it is being manufactured under hygienic conditions? THE ACTING DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES replied as follows: By-law 31 of the Food Business By-laws 1960 requires that no food factory, that is a food business involving the manu- Page 280Page 281 $12
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for site formation. There are other areas along Lung Cheung Road where there will undoubtedly be tall buildings, and I think it would be quite unrealistic to suggest that we should not permit tall buildings wherever there is a view, because almost every road that is built in Hong Kong opens up a view. There is also this crying need for housing, whether it is Resettlement housing, or Housing Authority housing, or private development. I think this goes equally well with the scars on the hillsides. The biggest scar which I see when I come to work every day is that which is being caused by the Tsz Wan Shan Resettlement Estate, and here is another case where it would be com- pletely unrealistic to say that we are not to do any development because we are spoiling the amenities. We are spoiling the amenities, but we have got to go on with the vast building programme.

On the particular point which Mr. FUNG Hon-chu has raised, when I came back from home leave 4 months' ago, I saw this building going up and I raised the same question in my office as to why this building was going up and who had permitted it. The answer was that the particular lease conditions there did not have a design disposition clause in, and it is extremely doubtful if we could, in fact, have stopped development if we had wanted to. There is another building going up at Magazine Gap itself. That did have a design disposition clause in the lease conditions and we could therefore have kept the height down but it simply comes to a point of is it being reasonable to keep the height down? It was a redevelopment, not a new lot, and they applied for modifications to this lot.

To try to be fair and reasonable in these matters, we work broadly on the basis that at Stubbs Road and Magazine Gap Road, there are now quite a number of sitting-out areas where cars can drive in to allow tourists to get out and take photographs. I think it is here in particular that we should try to maintain the views. I deprecate the blocking of views as much as anyone, but I simply do not think it is realistic to say that as one is driving along a road a new building will block the view. It is just one of those things which we have got to face. If we go back to 40 years ago, and I remember Magazine Gap myself when I was a child, buildings with two storeys which we have all come to accept as quite standard and normal have gone up in the last 40 years and they have blocked the view. I think it is simply a question of trying to look at the situation realistically but we are doing what we can, I assure you.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, may I say that I am very greatly reassured by what our colleague the Director of Public Works has said and my sympathy is wholly with him. He has such a large depart- ment that evidently he cannot be expected to know everything that is being done. Now the particular section of Lung Cheung Road, to which I referred and at which a very tall building is about to be

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finished, is just next to a garden which has been given to the Urban Amenities Select Committee to develop, and a platform from which our Kowloon residents can view the passing scene. In the future if they have the opportunity of taking photographs, the photographs will consist largely of very high buildings which are no doubt the intended character of that locality.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-Mr. Chairman, while I greatly appreciate Mr. SALES' remarks, I think that I said at the beginning that Lung Cheung Road was never considered as an amenity road or a road which opened up natural beauty. If one is going to think of roads of natural beauty in Kowloon, I have already mentioned Tai Po Road. There are also excellent views on the Castle Peak Road between Tsuen Wan and Castle Peak, and if one wants views of the harbour from Kowloon, and the airport runway, I suggest that the road up by Tate's Cairn and along Lion Rock is a far better vantage point for tourists and even residents.

MR. WATSON:-Mr. Chairman, the Director of Public Works has hinted at the difficulty of obtaining granite for building purposes. I wonder if the objections to siting quarries in water catchment areas could be overcome, because if they could, this would open up large areas for quarrying where the quarries would not be visible to very many people at all.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: -Mr. Chairman, this is certainly one matter which I will look into myself because I am not entirely satisfied with this bar on siting quarries in catchment areas.

(7)

MRS. ELLEN LI SHU-PUI asked the following question:-

In view of the recent instance of malnutrition of infants as a result of being fed on a defective milk powder, may I ask what form of control is maintained over the manufacture of such products? What are the requirements for the granting of a licence to a factory for the production of baby food and what control is there over the standard of quality of such a product?

I should also like to know whether regular inspections are carried out to ensure that the product maintains the quality standard and that it is being manufactured under hygienic conditions?

THE ACTING DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES replied as follows:

By-law 31 of the Food Business By-laws 1960 requires that no food factory, that is a food business involving the manu-

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