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recommended that a "factor" system be established to take care of the management and cleansing operations in multi-storey buildings?

CHAIRMAN: -In that connexion, Sir, I understand that Government has at the moment under active consideration the question of introduc-ing legislation to cover voluntary factoring in multi-storey buildings.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Has this been under consideration for some time, Mr. Chairman?

CHAIRMAN:-I believe so, Sir.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, in regard to the last paragraph of your reply, has the Department made any assessment of the result of the training course which was held in 1963?

CHAIRMAN:-I am not sure, Sir, what you mean by "assessment". A certain number of people—it was not a large number, attended the course which was conducted on fairly simple lines. As I said in my reply, consideration is now being given to the possibility of extending such training.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-I raised that question, Mr. Chairman, because, as perhaps you are aware, the Housing Authority in the management of their estates have established certain standards of cleansing within the estates and possibly there could be liaison between the Urban Services Department and the Housing Authority management on this particular point, which I think would be of benefit when the next training course comes up. Also, do I understand that the Secretary for Chinese Affairs has been encouraging voluntary co-operative management among the owners of nearly 30 multi-storey buildings? I do not know how many there are in Kowloon, but perhaps the Secretary for Chinese Affairs might wish to elaborate on that one?

SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS: -I would like to have had notice of that question, Sir, as I am not aware of the detailed figures off-hand. I will however undertake to circulate Members with a written note.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Thank you.

CHAIRMAN:-May I thank you, Sir, for your suggestion about the Housing Authority. I will certainly follow it up.

(8) MR. H. CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question:

(a) Will the Chairman please state what is the relationship between the Urban Council's Offensive Trades and Slaughterhouses Select Committee, (which has the responsibility

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"to advise on the planning, construction and operation of the new abattoirs") and the Abattoir Select Committee in the Legislative Council?

(b) Will the Chairman please inquire from Government what are the terms of reference of the Abattoir Select Committee in Legislative Council?

(c) Has there been any joint meeting of the representatives of these two Select Committees for the purpose of reviewing or expediting the construction of the new abattoirs, the completion of which is quite behind schedule? If not, will the Chairman take steps to implement this suggestion?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:-

I should like, Sir, to take the first two parts of the question together.

I understand that the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee of the Finance Committee of Legislative Council has no fixed terms of reference but that its purpose has been to keep the abattoir projects under review, with particular reference to the financial aspects coming within the purview of Legislative Council. The relationship between the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee and the Offensive Trades and Slaughterhouses Select Committee is the same as the relationship between their two parent bodies, the Legislative Council on the one hand and the Urban Council on the other.

Turning to the third part of the question, I am not aware that there have been any joint meetings of the two committees. I do not see that there would be any advantage in arrang-ing such meetings now, since construction of both abattoirs is about to begin.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, since you are a member of the Legislative Council, would you care to inform this Council how many times the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee has met?

CHAIRMAN: --I am afraid, Sir, I cannot give you, without notice, details of the number of times the Sub-Committee has met, although I understand that the last occasion when it met was about 1962. (Laughter). The Committee conducts much of its business by circula-tion papers and I understand that in recent years its work has been restricted to receiving information reports.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Since construction of both abattoirs has not really begun, could you explain why you do not think it would be of advantage to have a joint meeting of the two Committees concerned?

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Page 270 of 312 514 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL recommended that a "factor" system be established to take care of the management and cleansing operations in multi-storey buildings? CHAIRMAN: -In that connexion, Sir, I understand that Government has at the moment under active consideration the question of introduc-ing legislation to cover voluntary factoring in multi-storey buildings. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Has this been under consideration for some time, Mr. Chairman? CHAIRMAN:-I believe so, Sir. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, in regard to the last paragraph of your reply, has the Department made any assessment of the result of the training course which was held in 1963? CHAIRMAN:-I am not sure, Sir, what you mean by "assessment". A certain number of people—it was not a large number, attended the course which was conducted on fairly simple lines. As I said in my reply, consideration is now being given to the possibility of extending such training. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-I raised that question, Mr. Chairman, because, as perhaps you are aware, the Housing Authority in the management of their estates have established certain standards of cleansing within the estates and possibly there could be liaison between the Urban Services Department and the Housing Authority management on this particular point, which I think would be of benefit when the next training course comes up. Also, do I understand that the Secretary for Chinese Affairs has been encouraging voluntary co-operative management among the owners of nearly 30 multi-storey buildings? I do not know how many there are in Kowloon, but perhaps the Secretary for Chinese Affairs might wish to elaborate on that one? SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS: -I would like to have had notice of that question, Sir, as I am not aware of the detailed figures off-hand. I will however undertake to circulate Members with a written note. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Thank you. CHAIRMAN:-May I thank you, Sir, for your suggestion about the Housing Authority. I will certainly follow it up. (8) MR. H. CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question: (a) Will the Chairman please state what is the relationship between the Urban Council's Offensive Trades and Slaughterhouses Select Committee, (which has the responsibility HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 515 "to advise on the planning, construction and operation of the new abattoirs") and the Abattoir Select Committee in the Legislative Council? (b) Will the Chairman please inquire from Government what are the terms of reference of the Abattoir Select Committee in Legislative Council? (c) Has there been any joint meeting of the representatives of these two Select Committees for the purpose of reviewing or expediting the construction of the new abattoirs, the completion of which is quite behind schedule? If not, will the Chairman take steps to implement this suggestion? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:- I should like, Sir, to take the first two parts of the question together. I understand that the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee of the Finance Committee of Legislative Council has no fixed terms of reference but that its purpose has been to keep the abattoir projects under review, with particular reference to the financial aspects coming within the purview of Legislative Council. The relationship between the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee and the Offensive Trades and Slaughterhouses Select Committee is the same as the relationship between their two parent bodies, the Legislative Council on the one hand and the Urban Council on the other. Turning to the third part of the question, I am not aware that there have been any joint meetings of the two committees. I do not see that there would be any advantage in arrang-ing such meetings now, since construction of both abattoirs is about to begin. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, since you are a member of the Legislative Council, would you care to inform this Council how many times the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee has met? CHAIRMAN: --I am afraid, Sir, I cannot give you, without notice, details of the number of times the Sub-Committee has met, although I understand that the last occasion when it met was about 1962. (Laughter). The Committee conducts much of its business by circula-tion papers and I understand that in recent years its work has been restricted to receiving information reports. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Since construction of both abattoirs has not really begun, could you explain why you do not think it would be of advantage to have a joint meeting of the two Committees concerned? Page 270 Page 271 312

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་་ངས་ Page 270 of 312 514 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL recommended that a "factor" system be established to take care of the management and cleansing operations in multi-storey buildings? CHAIRMAN: -In that connexion, Sir, I understand that Government has at the moment under active consideration the question of introduc- ing legislation to cover voluntary factoring in multi-storey buildings. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Has this been under consideration for some time, Mr. Chairman? CHAIRMAN:-I believe so, Sir. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, in regard to the last paragraph of your reply, has the Department made any assessment of the result of the training course which was held in 1963? CHAIRMAN:-I am not sure, Sir, what you mean by "assessment". A certain number of people-it was not a large number, attended the course which was conducted on fairly simple lines. As I said in my reply, consideration is now being given to the possibility of extending such training. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-I raised that question, Mr. Chairman, because, as perhaps you are aware, the Housing Authority in the management of their estates have established certain standards of cleansing within the estates and possibly there could be liaison between the Urban Services Department and the Housing Authority management on this particular point, which I think would be of benefit when the next training course comes up. Also, do I understand that the Secretary for Chinese Affairs has been encouraging voluntary co-operative management among the owners of nearly 30 multi-storey buildings? I do not know how many there are in Kowloon, but perhaps the Secretary for Chinese Affairs might wish to elaborate on that one? SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS: -I would like to have had notice of that question, Sir, as I am not aware of the detailed figures off-hand. I will however undertake to circulate Members with a written note. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Thank you. CHAIRMAN:-May I thank you, Sir, for your suggestion about the Housing Authority. I will certainly follow it up. (8) MR. H. CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question: (a) Will the Chairman please state what is the relationship between the Urban Council's Offensive Trades and Slaugh- terhouses Select Committee, (which has the responsibility HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 515 "to advise on the planning, construction and operation of the new abattoirs") and the Abattoir Select Committee in the Legislative Council? (b) Will the Chairman please inquire from Government what are the terms of reference of the Abattoir Select Commit- tee in Legislative Council? (c) Has there been any joint meeting of the representatives of these two Select Committees for the purpose of reviewing or expediting the construction of the new abattoirs, the completion of which is quite behind schedule? If not, will the Chairman take steps to implement this suggestion? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:- I should like, Sir, to take the first two parts of the question together. I understand that the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee of the Finance Committee of Legislative Council has no fixed terms of reference but that its purpose has been to keep the abattoir projects under review, with particular reference to the financial aspects coming within the purview of Legislative Council. The relationship between the Abat- toirs Progress Sub-Committee and the Offensive Trades and Slaughterhouses Select Committee is the same as the relationship between their two parent bodies, the Legisla- tive Council on the one hand and the Urban Council on the other. Turning to the third part of the question, I am not aware that there have been any joint meetings of the two committees. I do not see that there would be any advantage in arrang- ing such meetings now, since construction of both abattoirs is about to begin. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, since you are a member of the Legislative Council, would you care to inform this Council how many times the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee has met? CHAIRMAN: --I am afraid, Sir, I cannot give you, without notice, details of the number of times the Sub-Committee has met, although I understand that the last occasion when it met was about 1962. (Laughter). The Committee conducts much of its business by circula- tion papers and I understand that in recent years its work has been restricted to receiving information reports. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Since construction of both abattoirs has not really begun, could you explain why you do not think it would be of advantage to have a joint meeting of the two Committees concerned? Page 270Page 271 312

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recommended that a "factor" system be established to take care of the management and cleansing operations in multi-storey buildings?

CHAIRMAN: -In that connexion, Sir, I understand that Government has at the moment under active consideration the question of introduc- ing legislation to cover voluntary factoring in multi-storey buildings.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Has this been under consideration for some time, Mr. Chairman?

CHAIRMAN:-I believe so, Sir.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, in regard to the last paragraph of your reply, has the Department made any assessment of the result of the training course which was held in 1963?

CHAIRMAN:-I am not sure, Sir, what you mean by "assessment". A certain number of people-it was not a large number, attended the course which was conducted on fairly simple lines. As I said in my reply, consideration is now being given to the possibility of extending such training.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Thank you.

CHAIRMAN:-May I thank you, Sir, for your suggestion about the Housing Authority. I will certainly follow it up.

(8) MR. H. CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question:

(a) Will the Chairman please state what is the relationship between the Urban Council's Offensive Trades and Slaugh- terhouses Select Committee, (which has the responsibility

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

515

"to advise on the planning, construction and operation of the new abattoirs") and the Abattoir Select Committee in the Legislative Council?

(b) Will the Chairman please inquire from Government what are the terms of reference of the Abattoir Select Commit- tee in Legislative Council?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:-

I should like, Sir, to take the first two parts of the question

together.

I understand that the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee of the Finance Committee of Legislative Council has no fixed terms of reference but that its purpose has been to keep the abattoir projects under review, with particular reference to the financial aspects coming within the purview of Legislative Council. The relationship between the Abat- toirs Progress Sub-Committee and the Offensive Trades and Slaughterhouses Select Committee is the same as the relationship between their two parent bodies, the Legisla- tive Council on the one hand and the Urban Council on the other.

Turning to the third part of the question, I am not aware that there have been any joint meetings of the two committees. I do not see that there would be any advantage in arrang- ing such meetings now, since construction of both abattoirs is about to begin.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, since you are a member of the Legislative Council, would you care to inform this Council how many times the Abattoirs Progress Sub-Committee has met?

CHAIRMAN: --I am afraid, Sir, I cannot give you, without notice, details of the number of times the Sub-Committee has met, although I understand that the last occasion when it met was about 1962. (Laughter). The Committee conducts much of its business by circula- tion papers and I understand that in recent years its work has been restricted to receiving information reports.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Since construction of both abattoirs has not really begun, could you explain why you do not think it would be of advantage to have a joint meeting of the two Committees concerned?

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