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visit to our City Hall at any time will be surprised by the number of persons making use of these facilities.

I think you will agree with me that there are more political organizations being established and there will be more contests for the elections. A person can still buy or bribe his way into the Council, but after today's motion, I am afraid he will not be able to sleep his way through the Council, because he has to attend so many meetings. I think that a very valuable thing this Council must do is to live up to its standard. Judging from the statistics given in the July report, I notice that my friend Hilton CHEONG-LEEN has a record attendance of 26 out of 27 meetings. Of course, Mr. Chairman, you lead by a commendable number of attendances—out of 14 meetings, you have attended 14.

In conclusion, Sir, this Council has a record for its place in the Colony as the main and major administrative machinery and I would like to see more powers given to it. The days will come when these issues will be raised, but at the present moment, that is all I have to say.

CHAIRMAN: I would like first to comment briefly on the points made by the Chairman of the Urban Amenities Select Committee. The responsibility for the clearing of refuse within the harbour still remains, as far as I know, with the Director of Marine, and not the Urban Services Department or the Urban Council. I made a report at the last meeting of this Council, in reply to a question by the Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee, on the position regarding the dump at Gin Drinkers Bay and enumerated the various causes for the unfortunate emission of refuse into the waters around us. I can only say, at this stage, that the question of cleansing the beaches is regarded as one of urgency in the Urban Services Department. It has been receiving close attention for some months now, not only by the Department itself, but also by the Public Works Department, which has a hand in keeping the dump at Gin Drinkers Bay under control. I propose to issue a report, as has been asked for by Mr. Sales, to all Members of the Council as soon as possible.

On Dr. LEE's point regarding statistics in respect of the City Hall, I will be glad to look into the matter.

QUESTIONS.

(1) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:—

Will the Chairman please make a progress report on the multi-purpose indoor stadium to be built in Kowloon?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:

Since the question of the indoor stadium was mentioned at the meeting of the Council in January this year, the Department has been gathering further information on stadia constructed elsewhere. This information is being studied carefully, with a view to drawing up suitable proposals for what might be constructed here. It is hoped to consult the Urban Amenities Select Committee again shortly on this matter.

MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, are you aware that representations were made to Government concerning the desirability of an indoor stadium being built in Hong Kong, over 10 years ago in 1951 to be precise?

CHAIRMAN: I was not aware of that, Sir.

MR. SALES: Sir, can you assure this Council that progress in drawing up plans and securing financial approval is not set back by the absence of the Assistant Director formerly in charge of this project?

CHAIRMAN: I can give you that assurance, Sir. Additional information concerning stadia in America has been collected recently and I would also like to mention that a representative of the Education Department returned not long ago from America with similar details, which, it is hoped, will be discussed shortly in the Urban Amenities Select Committee.

MR. SALES: Sir, is it not a fact that the Select Committee concerned has in fact indicated to the Urban Services Department that a multi-purpose stadium—the same as the one that exists in Vienna—might well suit Hong Kong's purpose?

CHAIRMAN: That is the case, Sir. A descriptive booklet on the stadium in Vienna is about to be circulated to members of the Urban Amenities Select Committee.

MR. SALES: Sir, may I thank you for your answers.

MR. LI YIU-BOR: Mr. Chairman, are you suggesting in your reply that there will be more stadia than the one in Kowloon?

CHAIRMAN: No, Sir.

MR. SALES: Are you able, Sir, to give us a categorical assurance that when this stadium is built it will in fact be located in Kowloon?

CHAIRMAN: I understand that that is the intention.

MR. SALES: Thank you, Sir. I am sure that the Kowloon people will be delighted to have that assurance.

MR. WILSON WANG: Mr. Chairman, may I ask to what extent local interested bodies have been consulted in considering the design of the future stadium, apart from the Education Department?

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Page 103 of 312 183 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL visit to our City Hall at any time will be surprised by the number of persons making use of these facilities. I think you will agree with me that there are more political organizations being established and there will be more contests for the elections. A person can still buy or bribe his way into the Council, but after today's motion, I am afraid he will not be able to sleep his way through the Council, because he has to attend so many meetings. I think that a very valuable thing this Council must do is to live up to its standard. Judging from the statistics given in the July report, I notice that my friend Hilton CHEONG-LEEN has a record attendance of 26 out of 27 meetings. Of course, Mr. Chairman, you lead by a commendable number of attendances—out of 14 meetings, you have attended 14. In conclusion, Sir, this Council has a record for its place in the Colony as the main and major administrative machinery and I would like to see more powers given to it. The days will come when these issues will be raised, but at the present moment, that is all I have to say. CHAIRMAN: I would like first to comment briefly on the points made by the Chairman of the Urban Amenities Select Committee. The responsibility for the clearing of refuse within the harbour still remains, as far as I know, with the Director of Marine, and not the Urban Services Department or the Urban Council. I made a report at the last meeting of this Council, in reply to a question by the Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee, on the position regarding the dump at Gin Drinkers Bay and enumerated the various causes for the unfortunate emission of refuse into the waters around us. I can only say, at this stage, that the question of cleansing the beaches is regarded as one of urgency in the Urban Services Department. It has been receiving close attention for some months now, not only by the Department itself, but also by the Public Works Department, which has a hand in keeping the dump at Gin Drinkers Bay under control. I propose to issue a report, as has been asked for by Mr. Sales, to all Members of the Council as soon as possible. On Dr. LEE's point regarding statistics in respect of the City Hall, I will be glad to look into the matter. QUESTIONS. (1) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:— Will the Chairman please make a progress report on the multi-purpose indoor stadium to be built in Kowloon? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows: Since the question of the indoor stadium was mentioned at the meeting of the Council in January this year, the Department has been gathering further information on stadia constructed elsewhere. This information is being studied carefully, with a view to drawing up suitable proposals for what might be constructed here. It is hoped to consult the Urban Amenities Select Committee again shortly on this matter. MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, are you aware that representations were made to Government concerning the desirability of an indoor stadium being built in Hong Kong, over 10 years ago in 1951 to be precise? CHAIRMAN: I was not aware of that, Sir. MR. SALES: Sir, can you assure this Council that progress in drawing up plans and securing financial approval is not set back by the absence of the Assistant Director formerly in charge of this project? CHAIRMAN: I can give you that assurance, Sir. Additional information concerning stadia in America has been collected recently and I would also like to mention that a representative of the Education Department returned not long ago from America with similar details, which, it is hoped, will be discussed shortly in the Urban Amenities Select Committee. MR. SALES: Sir, is it not a fact that the Select Committee concerned has in fact indicated to the Urban Services Department that a multi-purpose stadium—the same as the one that exists in Vienna—might well suit Hong Kong's purpose? CHAIRMAN: That is the case, Sir. A descriptive booklet on the stadium in Vienna is about to be circulated to members of the Urban Amenities Select Committee. MR. SALES: Sir, may I thank you for your answers. MR. LI YIU-BOR: Mr. Chairman, are you suggesting in your reply that there will be more stadia than the one in Kowloon? CHAIRMAN: No, Sir. MR. SALES: Are you able, Sir, to give us a categorical assurance that when this stadium is built it will in fact be located in Kowloon? CHAIRMAN: I understand that that is the intention. MR. SALES: Thank you, Sir. I am sure that the Kowloon people will be delighted to have that assurance. MR. WILSON WANG: Mr. Chairman, may I ask to what extent local interested bodies have been consulted in considering the design of the future stadium, apart from the Education Department? Page 103 of 312 312 182 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

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312 182 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Page 103 of 312 183 visit to our City Hall at any time will be surprised by the number of persons making use of these facilities. I think you will agree with me that there are more political or- ganizations being established and there will be more contests for the elections. A person can still buy or bribe his way into the Council, but after to-day's motion, I am afraid he will not be able to sleep his way through the Council, because he has to attend so many meetings. I think that a very valuable thing this Council must do is to live up to its standard. Judging from the statistics given in the July report, I notice that my friend Hilton CHEONG-LEEN has a record attendance of 26 out of 27 meetings. Of course, Mr. Chairman, you lead by a commendable number of attendances-out of 14 meetings, you have attended 14. In conclusion, Sir, this Council has a record for its place in the Colony as the main and major administrative machinery and I would like to see more powers given to it. The days will come when these issues will be raised, but at the present moment, that is all I have to say. CHAIRMAN:-I would like first to comment briefly on the points made by the Chairman of the Urban Amenities Select Committee. The responsibility for the clearing of refuse within the harbour still remains, as far as I know, with the Director of Marine, and not the Urban Services Department or the Urban Council. I made a report at the last meeting of this Council, in reply to a question by the Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee, on the position regarding the dump at Gin Drinkers Bay and enumerated the various causes for the unfortunate emission of refuse into the waters around us. I can only say, at this stage, that the question of cleansing the beaches is regarded as one of urgency in the Urban Services Department. It has been receiving close attention for some months now, not only by the Depart- ment itself, but also by the Public Works Department, which has a hand in keeping the dump at Gin Drinkers Bay under control. I propose to issue a report, as has been asked for by Mr. Sales, to all Members of the Council as soon as possible. On Dr. LEE's point regarding statistics in respect of the City Hall, I will be glad to look into the matter. QUESTIONS. (1) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:— Will the Chairman please make a progress report on the multi- purpose indoor stadium to be built in Kowloon? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows: - Since the question of the indoor stadium was mentioned at the meeting of the Council in January this year, the Depart- ment has been gathering further information on stadia constructed elsewhere. This information is being studied carefully, with a view to drawing up suitable proposals for what might be constructed here. It is hoped to consult the Urban Amenities Select Committee again shortly on this matter. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, are you aware that representations were made to Government concerning the desirability of an indoor stadium being built in Hong Kong, over 10 years ago in 1951 to be precise? CHAIRMAN:-I was not aware of that, Sir. MR. SALES: Sir, can you assure this Council that progress in drawing up plans and securing financial approval is not set back by the absence of the Assistant Director formerly in charge of this project? Additional CHAIRMAN:-I can give you that assurance, Sir. information concerning stadia in America has been collected recently and I would also like to mention that a representative of the Education Department returned not long ago from America with similar details, which, it is hoped, will be discussed shortly in the Urban Amenities Select Committee. MR. SALES: Sir, is it not a fact that the Select Committee con- cerned has in fact indicated to the Urban Services Department that a multi-purpose stadium-the same as the one that exists in Vienna- might well suit Hong Kong's purpose? CHAIRMAN:-That is the case, Sir. A descriptive booklet on the stadium in Vienna is about to be circulated to members of the Urban Amenities Select Committee. MR. SALES: Sir, may I thank you for your answers. MR. LI YIU-BOR: --Mr. Chairman, are you suggesting in your reply that there will be more stadia than the one in Kowloon? CHAIRMAN:-No, Sir. MR. SALES-Are you able, Sir, to give us a categorical assurance that when this stadium is built it will in fact be located in Kowloon? CHAIRMAN: I understand that that is the intention. MR. SALES-Thank you, Sir. I am sure that the Kowloon people will be delighted to have that assurance. MR. WILSON WANG:-Mr. Chairman, may I ask to what extent local interested bodies have been consulted in considering the design of the future stadium, apart from the Education Department?

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visit to our City Hall at any time will be surprised by the number of persons making use of these facilities.

I think you will agree with me that there are more political or- ganizations being established and there will be more contests for the elections. A person can still buy or bribe his way into the Council, but after to-day's motion, I am afraid he will not be able to sleep his way through the Council, because he has to attend so many meetings. I think that a very valuable thing this Council must do is to live up to its standard. Judging from the statistics given in the July report, I notice that my friend Hilton CHEONG-LEEN has a record attendance of 26 out of 27 meetings. Of course, Mr. Chairman, you lead by a commendable number of attendances-out of 14 meetings, you have attended 14.

CHAIRMAN:-I would like first to comment briefly on the points made by the Chairman of the Urban Amenities Select Committee. The responsibility for the clearing of refuse within the harbour still remains, as far as I know, with the Director of Marine, and not the Urban Services Department or the Urban Council. I made a report at the last meeting of this Council, in reply to a question by the Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee, on the position regarding the dump at Gin Drinkers Bay and enumerated the various causes for the unfortunate emission of refuse into the waters around us. I can only say, at this stage, that the question of cleansing the beaches is regarded as one of urgency in the Urban Services Department. It has been receiving close attention for some months now, not only by the Depart- ment itself, but also by the Public Works Department, which has a hand in keeping the dump at Gin Drinkers Bay under control. I propose to issue a report, as has been asked for by Mr. Sales, to all Members of the Council as soon as possible.

On Dr. LEE's point regarding statistics in respect of the City Hall, I will be glad to look into the matter.

QUESTIONS.

(1) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:—

Will the Chairman please make a progress report on the multi-

purpose indoor stadium to be built in Kowloon?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows: -

Since the question of the indoor stadium was mentioned at the meeting of the Council in January this year, the Depart-

ment has been gathering further information on stadia constructed elsewhere. This information is being studied carefully, with a view to drawing up suitable proposals for what might be constructed here. It is hoped to consult the Urban Amenities Select Committee again shortly on this matter.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, are you aware that representations were made to Government concerning the desirability of an indoor stadium being built in Hong Kong, over 10 years ago in 1951 to be precise?

CHAIRMAN:-I was not aware of that, Sir.

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CHAIRMAN:-I can give you that assurance, Sir. information concerning stadia in America has been collected recently and I would also like to mention that a representative of the Education Department returned not long ago from America with similar details, which, it is hoped, will be discussed shortly in the Urban Amenities Select Committee.

MR. SALES: Sir, is it not a fact that the Select Committee con- cerned has in fact indicated to the Urban Services Department that a multi-purpose stadium-the same as the one that exists in Vienna- might well suit Hong Kong's purpose?

CHAIRMAN:-That is the case, Sir. A descriptive booklet on the stadium in Vienna is about to be circulated to members of the Urban Amenities Select Committee.

MR. SALES: Sir, may I thank you for your answers.

MR. LI YIU-BOR: --Mr. Chairman, are you suggesting in your reply that there will be more stadia than the one in Kowloon?

CHAIRMAN:-No, Sir.

MR. SALES-Are you able, Sir, to give us a categorical assurance that when this stadium is built it will in fact be located in Kowloon?

CHAIRMAN: I understand that that is the intention.

MR. SALES-Thank you, Sir. I am sure that the Kowloon people will be delighted to have that assurance.

MR. WILSON WANG:-Mr. Chairman, may I ask to what extent local interested bodies have been consulted in considering the design of the future stadium, apart from the Education Department?

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