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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:

When the Kowloon Tsai swimming pool is completed, does not the Chairman agree that the olympic-standard-type of swimming pools is sufficient for Hong Kong's likely needs, and that, in view of the enormous public demand for well water supply, consideration should be given for the use of sea water for future swimming pools to be developed in the urban area?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows: —

I believe that the Urban Amenities Select Committee are agreed that the existing swimming pool at Victoria Park and the new one nearing completion at Kowloon Tsai will meet our likely requirements for swimming pools conforming to international competition standards, (one requirement of which is that fresh water should be used).

The Committee also agrees that sea water could be used in future purely recreational pools if well water is not available, though each case will need to be considered on its own merits so far as the technical aspects are concerned.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, on a point of clarification, will the new swimming pool at Kowloon Tsai be completed by late summer?

CHAIRMAN:-The current water shortage has a bearing on this particular question.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, I was not referring to when the swimming pool will be available for use; I was referring to the completion of the swimming pool.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-I visited Kowloon Tsai on Saturday morning and spent some time going round with Mr. NORTON. I would say quite definitely "Yes"-the swimming pool will be completed well before the end of this summer.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Very heartening, Mr. Chairman.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, I was there on Sunday and I can certify that it will be ready this time. (Laughter).

DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:-

Will car park meters be installed in future Council controlled car parks? If so, will the Chairman take steps to ensure that they provide better service to the public; if not, will he make appropriate representation to the authority concerned that the present street car park meters are so frequently out of order that much time is wasted in having to make a report and so on to the detriment of the public interest?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:

So far as I am aware there is no intention of installing meters in car parks managed by the Urban Council. The first part of your question, therefore, does not arise Sir. As regards the second part, I have sent a copy of your question to the authority concerned.

DR. LEE:-Regarding the second part, Mr. Chairman, when you do have a reply will you write to me?

CHAIRMAN:-Certainly.

MRS. E. ELLIOTT asked the following two questions:

1.

2.

To dispel any suggestion of unfairness in the allocation of resettlement rooms would the Commissioner for Resettlement please give some idea as to:-

(a) whether there is any checking of reports made by the screening officers, and if so, what methods of checking are used?

(b) whether it is possible for an ordinary member of the public making a complaint to gain access to the Commissioner for Resettlement personally in confidence, if necessary with his own interpreter; if so how he can appeal for such an interview?

Does the Commissioner for Resettlement consider that night-checking is an infallible method of proving residence; if not, how can an applicant appeal against the results of a night-check?

THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT replied as follows:-

As regards question 1(a), favourable reports made by screening officers are not normally checked-it is the prime function of these officers to prepare accurate details of families in a clearance area, obtained by careful investigations in the field. If any case of doubt arises, such as claims from suspected non-genuine residents or overstatements as to family composition-it is a common trick, for example, to

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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question: When the Kowloon Tsai swimming pool is completed, does not the Chairman agree that the olympic-standard-type of swimming pools is sufficient for Hong Kong's likely needs, and that, in view of the enormous public demand for well water supply, consideration should be given for the use of sea water for future swimming pools to be developed in the urban area? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows: I believe that the Urban Amenities Select Committee are agreed that the existing swimming pool at Victoria Park and the new one nearing completion at Kowloon Tsai will meet our likely requirements for swimming pools conforming to international competition standards, (one requirement of which is that fresh water should be used). The Committee also agrees that sea water could be used in future purely recreational pools if well water is not available, though each case will need to be considered on its own merits so far as the technical aspects are concerned. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, on a point of clarification, will the new swimming pool at Kowloon Tsai be completed by late summer? CHAIRMAN:-The current water shortage has a bearing on this particular question. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, I was not referring to when the swimming pool will be available for use; I was referring to the completion of the swimming pool. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-I visited Kowloon Tsai on Saturday morning and spent some time going round with Mr. NORTON. I would say quite definitely "Yes"-the swimming pool will be completed well before the end of this summer. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Very heartening, Mr. Chairman. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, I was there on Sunday and I can certify that it will be ready this time. (Laughter). DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:- Will car park meters be installed in future Council controlled car parks? If so, will the Chairman take steps to ensure that they provide better service to the public; if not, will he make appropriate representation to the authority concerned that the present street car park meters are so frequently out of order that much time is wasted in having to make a report and so on to the detriment of the public interest? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows: So far as I am aware there is no intention of installing meters in car parks managed by the Urban Council. The first part of your question, therefore, does not arise Sir. As regards the second part, I have sent a copy of your question to the authority concerned. DR. LEE:-Regarding the second part, Mr. Chairman, when you do have a reply will you write to me? CHAIRMAN:-Certainly. MRS. E. ELLIOTT asked the following two questions: 1. 2. To dispel any suggestion of unfairness in the allocation of resettlement rooms would the Commissioner for Resettlement please give some idea as to:- (a) whether there is any checking of reports made by the screening officers, and if so, what methods of checking are used? (b) whether it is possible for an ordinary member of the public making a complaint to gain access to the Commissioner for Resettlement personally in confidence, if necessary with his own interpreter; if so how he can appeal for such an interview? Does the Commissioner for Resettlement consider that night-checking is an infallible method of proving residence; if not, how can an applicant appeal against the results of a night-check? THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT replied as follows:- As regards question 1(a), favourable reports made by screening officers are not normally checked-it is the prime function of these officers to prepare accurate details of families in a clearance area, obtained by careful investigations in the field. If any case of doubt arises, such as claims from suspected non-genuine residents or overstatements as to family composition-it is a common trick, for example, to
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af 194 Page 69 of 194 122 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question: When the Kowloon Tsai swimming pool is completed, does not the Chairman agree that the olympic-standard-type of swimming pools is sufficient for Hong Kong's likely needs, and that, in view of the enormous public demand for well water supply, consideration should be given for the use of sea water for future swimming pools to be develop- ed in the urban area? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows: I believe that the Urban Amenities Select Committee are agreed that the existing swimming pool at Victoria Park and the new one nearing completion at Kowloon Tsai will meet our likely requirements for swimming pools conforming to international competition standards, (one requirement of which is that fresh water should be used). The Committee also agrees that sea water could be used in future purely recreational pools if well water is not avail- able, though each case will need to be considered on its own merits so far as the technical aspects are concerned. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, on a point of clarification, will the new swimming pool at Kowloon Tsai be completed by late summer? CHAIRMAN:-The current water shortage has a bearing on this particular question. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, I was not referring to when the swimming pool will be available for use; I was referring to the completion of the swimming pool. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-I visited Kowloon Tsai on Saturday morning and spent some time going round with Mr. NORTON. I would say quite definitely "Yes"-the swimming pool will be completed well before the end of this summer. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Very heartening, Mr. Chairman. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, I was there on Sunday and I can certify that it will be ready this time. (Laughter). DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:- Will car park meters be installed in future Council controlled car parks? If so, will the Chairman take steps to ensure that they provide better service to the public; if not, will HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 123 he make appropriate representation to the authority con- cerned that the present street car park meters are so fre- quently out of order that much time is wasted in having to make a report and so on to the detriment of the public interest? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows: So far as I am aware there is no intention of installing meters in car parks managed by the Urban Council. The first part of your question, therefore, does not arise Sir. As regards the second part, I have sent a copy of your question to the authority concerned. DR. LEE:-Regarding the second part, Mr. Chairman, when you do have a reply will you write to me? CHAIRMAN:-Certainly. MRS. E. ELLIOTT asked the following two questions: 1. 2. To dispel any suggestion of unfairness in the allocation of resettlement rooms would the Commissioner for Resettlement please give some idea as to:- (a) whether there is any checking of reports made by the screening officers, and if so, what methods of checking are used? (b) whether it is possible for an ordinary member of the public making a complaint to gain access to the Com- missioner for Resettlement personally in confidence, if necessary with his own interpreter; if so how he can appeal for such an interview? Does the Commissioner for Resettlement consider that night-checking is an infallible method of proving residence; if not, how can an applicant appeal against the results of a night-check? THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT replied as follows:- As regards question 1(a), favourable reports made by screening officers are not normally checked-it is the prime function of these officers to prepare accurate details of families in a clearance area, obtained by careful investigations in the field. If any case of doubt arises, such as claims from suspected non-genuine residents or overstatements as to family composition-it is a common trick, for example, to
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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:

When the Kowloon Tsai swimming pool is completed, does not the Chairman agree that the olympic-standard-type of swimming pools is sufficient for Hong Kong's likely needs, and that, in view of the enormous public demand for well water supply, consideration should be given for the use of sea water for future swimming pools to be develop- ed in the urban area?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows: —

I believe that the Urban Amenities Select Committee are agreed that the existing swimming pool at Victoria Park and the new one nearing completion at Kowloon Tsai will meet our likely requirements for swimming pools conforming to international competition standards, (one requirement of which is that fresh water should be used).

The Committee also agrees that sea water could be used in future purely recreational pools if well water is not avail- able, though each case will need to be considered on its own merits so far as the technical aspects are concerned.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, on a point of clarification, will the new swimming pool at Kowloon Tsai be completed by late summer?

CHAIRMAN:-The current water shortage has a bearing on this particular question.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, I was not referring to when the swimming pool will be available for use; I was referring to the completion of the swimming pool.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-I visited Kowloon Tsai on Saturday morning and spent some time going round with Mr. NORTON. I would say quite definitely "Yes"-the swimming pool will be completed well before the end of this summer.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Very heartening, Mr. Chairman.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, I was there on Sunday and I can certify that it will be ready this time. (Laughter).

DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:-

Will car park meters be installed in future Council controlled car parks? If so, will the Chairman take steps to ensure that they provide better service to the public; if not, will

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he make appropriate representation to the authority con- cerned that the present street car park meters are so fre- quently out of order that much time is wasted in having to make a report and so on to the detriment of the public interest?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:

So far as I am aware there is no intention of installing meters in car parks managed by the Urban Council. The first part of your question, therefore, does not arise Sir. As regards the second part, I have sent a copy of your question to the authority concerned.

DR. LEE:-Regarding the second part, Mr. Chairman, when you do have a reply will you write to me?

CHAIRMAN:-Certainly.

MRS. E. ELLIOTT asked the following two questions:

1.

2.

To dispel any suggestion of unfairness in the allocation of resettlement rooms would the Commissioner for Resettlement please give some idea as to:-

(a) whether there is any checking of reports made by the screening officers, and if so, what methods of checking are used?

(b) whether it is possible for an ordinary member of the public making a complaint to gain access to the Com- missioner for Resettlement personally in confidence, if necessary with his own interpreter; if so how he can appeal for such an interview?

Does the Commissioner for Resettlement consider that night-checking is an infallible method of proving residence; if not, how can an applicant appeal against the results of a night-check?

THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT replied as follows:-

As regards question 1(a), favourable reports made by screening officers are not normally checked-it is the prime function of these officers to prepare accurate details of families in a clearance area, obtained by careful investigations in the field. If any case of doubt arises, such as claims from suspected non-genuine residents or overstatements as to family composition-it is a common trick, for example, to

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