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a year ago, I made a suggestion that we should have a much longer-term plan than, say, one year or two years. I suggested that we should have at least a 5-year plan, particularly for our playgrounds. I would therefore like to support the views which have been put forward by the proposer and seconder, with this specific suggestion: that our friend, the Hon. Director of Public Works, should consider preparing at least an outline of a 5-year development plan of parks and playgrounds to be presented to the Select Committee as soon as it is feasible.
MR. SALES:—Mr. Chairman, may I exercise my right of reply. I am particularly prompted to do so, Mr. Chairman, by Mr. CHEONG-LEEN. I know that our colleague can be counted on to speak on any and every subject regardless of whether he is qualified to do so or not. (Laughter). To-day, evidently, there is a manifestation of that propensity on his part. I am greatly reassured by the support that has been given to this motion by Dr. LEE. We have worked very closely together in the Committee. Now that someone, who is not a member of our Committee, should rise to support the motion is indeed most encouraging, particularly when that person has, on occasions, declined to attend our meetings, knowing only too well that they start on the dot at 8.45. (At this point, Mr. CHEONG-LEEN retorted: Irrelevant). I am rather hurt that Mr. CHEONG-LEEN should describe my four-minute speech as being long-winded. It carried so much commonsense, even if I say so myself; I feel that on this occasion I was at least, in this particular case, doing what the Bible says "casting pearls before swine." (Laughter).
MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, may I say in clarification that my use of the word "long-winded" was simply designed to draw Mr. SALES out a little further.
The question was put.
The motion was carried.
DR. R. H. S. LEE, Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee, moved the following motion:
"THAT under By-law 4 of the Public Conveniences (Conduct and Behaviour) By-laws, 1961, the Council hereby makes the following Order:
Citation.
Public
Latrine
Charges.
1. This Order may be cited as the Public Conveniences (Charges) Order, 1961.
2. Ten cents shall be charged for the use of any coin operated compartment provided in any of the following public latrines:
(1) Public Latrine at Ice House Street. (2) Public Latrine at Star Ferry Car Park.
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(3) Public Latrine at Central Market, junction of Queen Victoria Street and Des Voeux Road Central.
(4) Public Latrine at Tsim Sha Tsui Ferry Concourse.
(5) Public Latrine at Jordan Road Ferry Concourse.
(6) Public Latrine at Kowloon City Ferry Concourse."
He said:
Mr. Chairman, the purpose of this resolution is to comply with the provisions of by-law 4(1) of the Public Conveniences (Conduct and Behaviour) By-laws, which specify that 10 cents should be charged for the use of any coin-operated compartment provided in the six public latrines so listed. Compared with the 124 public latrines, for which no charge is made, this small number is provided for members of the public who are used to this type of latrine. As the charge is so small, I can see no public objection to what is usual in most cities in the world.
Sir, I beg to move.
DR. P. F. Woo seconded.
The question was put.
The motion was carried.
DR. A. M. S. BELL moved the following motion:
"THAT this Council requests His Excellency the Governor when next making appointments to consider the appointment of a lady to this Council."
She said:
Mr. Chairman, I rise to move the motion standing in my name on the order paper today “THAT this Council requests His Excellency the Governor when next making appointments to consider the appointment of a lady to this Council”.
On the eve of my departure for a six weeks' holiday it occurred to me that my colleagues upon this Council are going to be rather lonely and lost without some feminine logic, reasoning, and adornment at their meetings and I determined that I should move a motion today to prevent a similar occurrence in the future and also that I might have a more interesting view across the other side of the table from my seat here! (Laughter).
Apart from this lighter aspect of the motion there is also the aspect that in spite of the great number of educated, intelligent, devoted to public service, and able ladies in our community, not one has yet been
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a year ago, I made a suggestion that we should have a much longer- term plan than, say, one year or two years. I suggested that we should have at least a 5-year plan, particularly for our playgrounds. I would therefore like to support the views which have been put forward by the proposer and seconder, with this specific suggestion: that our friend, the Hon. Director of Public Works, should consider preparing at least an outline of a 5-year development plan of parks and playgrounds to be presented to the Select Committee as soon as it is feasible.
MR. SALES:—Mr. Chairman, may I exercise my right of reply. I am particularly prompted to do so, Mr. Chairman, by Mr. CHEONG- LEEN. I know that our colleague can be counted on to speak on any and every subject regardless of whether he is qualified to do so or not. (Laughter). To-day, evidently, there is a manifestation of that pro- pensity on his part. I am greatly reassured by the support that has been given to this motion by Dr. LEE. We have worked very closely together in the Committee. Now that someone, who is not a member of our Committee, should rise to support the motion is indeed most encouraging, particularly when that person has, on occasions, declined to attend our meetings, knowing only too well that they start on the dot at 8.45. (At this point, Mr. CHEONG-LEEN retorted: Irrelevant). I am rather hurt that Mr. CHEONG-LEEN should describe my four- minute speech as being long-winded. It carried so much commonsense, even if I say so myself; I feel that on this occasion I was at least, in this particular case, doing what the Bible says "casting pearls before swine." (Laughter).
MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, may I say in clarification that my use of the word "long-winded" was simply designed to draw Mr. SALES out a little further.
The question was put.
The motion was carried.
DR. R. H. S. LEE, Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee, moved the following motion:
"THAT under By-law 4 of the Public Conveniences (Conduct and Behaviour) By-laws, 1961, the Council hereby makes the following Order:
Citation.
Public
Latrine
Charges.
1. This Order may be cited as the Public Conveniences (Charges) Order, 1961.
2. Ten cents shall be charged for the use of any coin operated compartment provided in any of the following public latrines:
(1) Public Latrine at Ice House Street. (2) Public Latrine at Star Ferry Car Park.
He said:
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(3) Public Latrine at Central Market, junc- tion of Queen Victoria Street and Des Voeux Road Central.
(4) Public Latrine at Tsim Sha Tsui Ferry
Concourse.
(5) Public Latrine at Jordan Road Ferry
Concourse.
(6) Public Latrine at Kowloon City Ferry
Concourse."
Mr. Chairman, the purpose of this resolution is to comply with the provisions of by-law 4(1) of the Public Conveniences (Conduct and Behaviour) By-laws, which specify that 10 cents should be charged for the use of any coin-operated compartment provided in the six public latrines so listed. Compared with the 124 public latrines, for which no charge is made, this small number is provided for members of the public who are used to this type of latrine. As the charge is so small, I can see no public objection to what is usual in most cities in the world.
Sir, I beg to move.
DR. P. F. Woo seconded.
The question was put.
The motion was carried.
DR. A. M. S. BELL moved the following motion:
"THAT this Council requests His Excellency the Governor when next making appointments to consider the appoint- ment of a lady to this Council."
She said:
Mr. Chairman, I rise to move the motion standing in my name on the order paper today “THAT this Council requests His Excellency the Governor when next making appointments to consider the appointment of a lady to this Council”.
On the eve of my departure for a six weeks' holiday it occurred to me that my colleagues upon this Council are going to be rather lonely and lost without some feminine logic, reasoning, and adornment at their meetings and I determined that I should move a motion today to prevent a similar occurrence in the future and also that I might have a more interesting view across the other side of the table from my seat here! (Laughter).
Apart from this lighter aspect of the motion there is also the aspect that in spite of the great number of educated, intelligent, devoted to public service, and able ladies in our community, not one has yet been
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