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(ii) besides the difficulty of having each country suitably represented, there is the fact that the site is salt-impregnated fill, which precludes a number of even Hong Kong's own trees and shrubs from thriving.

Mr. Sales :—Your second section, in reply to Mr. Cheong-Leen's question: sir, have you perhaps overlooked the possibility that Mr. Cheong-Leen's green fingers might overcome the natural handicap of the garden?

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-Could Mr. Sales please clarify what he said?

CHAIRMAN :-Mr. Sales was implying that you have green fingers, Mr. Cheong-Leen, and I have no doubt that he is correct.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-I think it is an infraction of the Standing Orders in front of him, Mr. Chairman.

CHAIRMAN :-Thank you very much.

CHAIRMAN :--Your fourth question :

"A. At present, the various stages of Government Development Plans for Central Reclamation from the Star Ferry Piers up to Western Market (North Block) envisage the provision wherever possible of a 25′ promenade.

B. I will pass on your suggestion to Government."

Mr. Sales :-May I clarify a point? Is it Mr. Cheong-Leen's intention to name this extension of the boulevard as the Bernacchi Boulevard Extension or the Cheong-Leen Boulevard?

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-Could I clarify that Mr. Chairman? No expression of intention was ever contemplated. Probably Mr. Sales' imagination is running wild today.

CHAIRMAN :-Your fifth question :

"I believe that the Cooked Food Stalls which normally attract tourists in Singapore are of the type to be found on the Esplanade where the Municipal Council has provided properly constructed concrete stalls and supplied all the necessary tables and chairs on a common Refreshment Area. These are consequently of a somewhat different nature to Cooked Food Stalls as we know them in Hong Kong and I understand that they have not been an unqualified financial success. I have certainly not considered developing any of the existing Cooked Food Stall Districts primarily into tourist attractions for I do not consider this feasible, but, at the moment, the Department is studying, at the suggestion of the Select Committee concerned, the possibility of organizing one or more commercial Cooked Food Stall sites on the lines followed in Singapore."

MR. Y. K. KAN :-Is it not a fact that this matter had already been raised by me in the course of the debate on the Hawkers Report in March, 1958 and that as a result plans of the Singapore scheme were obtained and they were considered by the relevant Select Committee whose opinion was that such a scheme would not be feasible in Hong Kong for a variety of reasons?

CHAIRMAN :-I cannot state with authority, Mr. Kan, but I am under the impression that the facts are as you state.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-In fairness to Mr. Kan, or in fairness to myself, I was not aware of that because the relevant papers for this particular Select Committee did not come to my attention, and if it was his original suggestion I think we ought to give him credit for that. I do not quite understand the last section of the answer, Mr. Chairman. You are examining, I presume, the organizing of one or more commercial food stall sites on the lines followed in Singapore.

CHAIRMAN :-But not primarily as a tourist attraction.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-Was it mentioned in my question that it should be primarily for a tourist attraction?

CHAIRMAN :-I don't think it was mentioned in your question, but it was one of the main purposes of the stalls in Singapore.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-It may not be the main purpose, Mr. Chairman; it also is to feed the public.

CHAIRMAN :-Good.

CHAIRMAN :-Your sixth question :

"I. The Scavenging and Health Education Select Committees met jointly on the 22nd January to discuss the best methods of implementing your motion.

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Page 134 of 139 248 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL (ii) besides the difficulty of having each country suitably represented, there is the fact that the site is salt-impregnated fill, which precludes a number of even Hong Kong's own trees and shrubs from thriving. Mr. Sales :—Your second section, in reply to Mr. Cheong-Leen's question: sir, have you perhaps overlooked the possibility that Mr. Cheong-Leen's green fingers might overcome the natural handicap of the garden? MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-Could Mr. Sales please clarify what he said? CHAIRMAN :-Mr. Sales was implying that you have green fingers, Mr. Cheong-Leen, and I have no doubt that he is correct. MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-I think it is an infraction of the Standing Orders in front of him, Mr. Chairman. CHAIRMAN :-Thank you very much. CHAIRMAN :--Your fourth question : "A. At present, the various stages of Government Development Plans for Central Reclamation from the Star Ferry Piers up to Western Market (North Block) envisage the provision wherever possible of a 25′ promenade. B. I will pass on your suggestion to Government." Mr. Sales :-May I clarify a point? Is it Mr. Cheong-Leen's intention to name this extension of the boulevard as the Bernacchi Boulevard Extension or the Cheong-Leen Boulevard? MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-Could I clarify that Mr. Chairman? No expression of intention was ever contemplated. Probably Mr. Sales' imagination is running wild today. CHAIRMAN :-Your fifth question : "I believe that the Cooked Food Stalls which normally attract tourists in Singapore are of the type to be found on the Esplanade where the Municipal Council has provided properly constructed concrete stalls and supplied all the necessary tables and chairs on a common Refreshment Area. These are consequently of a somewhat different nature to Cooked Food Stalls as we know them in Hong Kong and I understand that they have not been an unqualified financial success. I have certainly not considered developing any of the existing Cooked Food Stall Districts primarily into tourist attractions for I do not consider this feasible, but, at the moment, the Department is studying, at the suggestion of the Select Committee concerned, the possibility of organizing one or more commercial Cooked Food Stall sites on the lines followed in Singapore." MR. Y. K. KAN :-Is it not a fact that this matter had already been raised by me in the course of the debate on the Hawkers Report in March, 1958 and that as a result plans of the Singapore scheme were obtained and they were considered by the relevant Select Committee whose opinion was that such a scheme would not be feasible in Hong Kong for a variety of reasons? CHAIRMAN :-I cannot state with authority, Mr. Kan, but I am under the impression that the facts are as you state. MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-In fairness to Mr. Kan, or in fairness to myself, I was not aware of that because the relevant papers for this particular Select Committee did not come to my attention, and if it was his original suggestion I think we ought to give him credit for that. I do not quite understand the last section of the answer, Mr. Chairman. You are examining, I presume, the organizing of one or more commercial food stall sites on the lines followed in Singapore. CHAIRMAN :-But not primarily as a tourist attraction. MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-Was it mentioned in my question that it should be primarily for a tourist attraction? CHAIRMAN :-I don't think it was mentioned in your question, but it was one of the main purposes of the stalls in Singapore. MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-It may not be the main purpose, Mr. Chairman; it also is to feed the public. CHAIRMAN :-Good. CHAIRMAN :-Your sixth question : "I. The Scavenging and Health Education Select Committees met jointly on the 22nd January to discuss the best methods of implementing your motion. Page 139 249 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL
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139 Page 134 of 139 248 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL (ii) besides the difficulty of having each country suitably represented, there is the fact that the site is salt-impregnated fill, which precludes a number of even Hong Kong's own trees and shrubs from thriving." Mr. Sales :—Your second section, in reply to Mr. Cheong- Leen's question: sir, have you perhaps overlooked the possibility that Mr. Cheong-Leen's green fingers might overcome the natural handicap of the garden? MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-Could Mr. Sales please clarify what he said? CHAIRMAN:-) -Mr. Sales was implying that you have green fingers, Mr. Cheong-Leen, and I have no doubt that he is correct. MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-I think it is an infraction of the Stand- ing Orders in front of him, Mr. Chairman. CHAIRMAN:-Thank you very much. CHAIRMAN :--Your fourth question : "A. At present, the various stages of Government Development Plans for Central Reclamation from the Star Ferry Piers up to Western Market (North Block) envisage the provision wherever possible of a 25′ promenade. B. I will pass on your suggestion to Government." Mr. Sales:-May I clarify a point? Is it Mr. Cheong- Leen's intention to name this extension of the boulevard as the Bernacchi Boulevard Extension or the Cheong-Leen Boulevard ? MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Could I clarify that Mr. Chairman ? No expression of intention was ever contemplated. Probably Mr. Sales' imagination is running wild today. CHAIRMAN :-Your fifth question : "I believe that the Cooked Food Stalls which normally attract tourists in Singapore are of the type to be found on the Esplanade where the Municipal Council has provided properly constructed concrete stalls and supplied all the necessary tables and chairs on a common Refreshment Area. These are consequent- ly of a somewhat different nature to Cooked Food } HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 249 Stalls as we know them in Hong Kong and I under- stand that they have not been an unqualified financial Success. I have certainly not considered developing any of the existing Cooked Food Stall Districts primarily into tourist attractions for I do not consider this feasible, but, at the moment, the Department is studying, at the suggestion of the Select Com- mittee concerned, the possibility of organizing one or more commercial Cooked Food Stall sites on the lines followed in Singapore." MR. Y. K. KAN :-Is it not a fact that this matter had already been raised by me in the course of the debate on the Hawkers Report in March, 1958 and that as a result plans of the Singapore scheme were obtained and they were considered by the relevant Select Committee whose opinion was that such a scheme would not be feasible in Hong Kong for a variety of reasons? CHAIRMAN :-I cannot state with authority, Mr. Kan, but I am under the impression that the facts are as you state. MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-In fairness to Mr. Kan, or in fairness to myself, I was not aware of that because the relevant papers for this particular Select Committee did not come to my attention, and if it was his original suggestion I think we ought to give him credit for that. I do not quite understand the last section of the answer, Mr. Chairman. You are examining I presume the organizing of one or more commercial food stall sites on the lines followed in Singapore. CHAIRMAN :-But not primarily as a tourist attraction. MR. CHEONG-LEEN :- -Was it mentioned in my question that it should be primarily for a tourist attraction? CHAIRMAN :---I don't think it was mentioned in your question, but it was one of the main purposes of the stalls in Singapore. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-It may not be the main purpose, Mr. Chairman; it also is to feed the public. CHAIRMAN:-Good. CHAIRMAN:-Your sixth question: "'I. The Scavenging and Health Education Select Com- mittees met jointly on the 22nd January to discuss the best methods of implementing your motion.
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(ii) besides the difficulty of having each country suitably represented, there is the fact that the site is salt-impregnated fill, which precludes a number of even Hong Kong's own trees and shrubs from thriving."

Mr. Sales :—Your second section, in reply to Mr. Cheong- Leen's question: sir, have you perhaps overlooked the possibility that Mr. Cheong-Leen's green fingers might overcome the natural handicap of the garden?

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-Could Mr. Sales please clarify what he said?

CHAIRMAN:-) -Mr. Sales was implying that you have green fingers, Mr. Cheong-Leen, and I have no doubt that he is correct.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-I think it is an infraction of the Stand- ing Orders in front of him, Mr. Chairman.

CHAIRMAN:-Thank you very much.

CHAIRMAN :--Your fourth question :

"A. At present, the various stages of Government Development Plans for Central Reclamation from the Star Ferry Piers up to Western Market (North Block) envisage the provision wherever possible of a 25′ promenade.

B. I will pass on your suggestion to Government." Mr. Sales:-May I clarify a point? Is it Mr. Cheong- Leen's intention to name this extension of the boulevard as the Bernacchi Boulevard Extension or the Cheong-Leen Boulevard ?

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Could I clarify that Mr. Chairman ? No expression of intention was ever contemplated. Probably Mr. Sales' imagination is running wild today.

CHAIRMAN :-Your fifth question :

"I believe that the Cooked Food Stalls which normally attract tourists in Singapore are of the type to be found on the Esplanade where the Municipal Council has provided properly constructed concrete stalls and supplied all the necessary tables and chairs on a common Refreshment Area. These are consequent- ly of a somewhat different nature to Cooked Food

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Stalls as we know them in Hong Kong and I under- stand that they have not been an unqualified financial Success. I have certainly not considered developing any of the existing Cooked Food Stall Districts primarily into tourist attractions for I do not consider this feasible, but, at the moment, the Department is studying, at the suggestion of the Select Com- mittee concerned, the possibility of organizing one or more commercial Cooked Food Stall sites on the lines followed in Singapore."

MR. Y. K. KAN :-Is it not a fact that this matter had already been raised by me in the course of the debate on the Hawkers Report in March, 1958 and that as a result plans of the Singapore scheme were obtained and they were considered by the relevant Select Committee whose opinion was that such a scheme would not be feasible in Hong Kong for a variety of reasons?

CHAIRMAN :-I cannot state with authority, Mr. Kan, but I am under the impression that the facts are as you state.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :-In fairness to Mr. Kan, or in fairness to myself, I was not aware of that because the relevant papers for this particular Select Committee did not come to my attention, and if it was his original suggestion I think we ought to give him credit for that. I do not quite understand the last section of the answer, Mr. Chairman. You are examining I presume the organizing of one or more commercial food stall sites on the lines followed in Singapore.

CHAIRMAN :-But not primarily as a tourist attraction.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN :- -Was it mentioned in my question that it should be primarily for a tourist attraction?

CHAIRMAN :---I don't think it was mentioned in your question, but it was one of the main purposes of the stalls in Singapore.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-It may not be the main purpose, Mr. Chairman; it also is to feed the public.

CHAIRMAN:-Good.

CHAIRMAN:-Your sixth question:

"'I.

The Scavenging and Health Education Select Com- mittees met jointly on the 22nd January to discuss the best methods of implementing your motion.

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