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190

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

DR. P. F. Woo asked the following question :--

"Has the Chairman noticed the fact that certain schools or organizations in the Colony have encountered difficulties in trying to make use of the playing fields in Victoria Park? Would the Chairman explain the procedure for application to use these fields so that they may be more accessible to the various organizations ?"

CHAIRMAN:

This is primarily a matter for the Education Department but a written reply has been supplied.

"Systematic booking and allocation of pitches is carried out each week by the Director of Education, who has been good enough to supply the following information--

Applications for grass pitches, for which a fee is charged, are accepted at the Education Department from 9 a.m. each Tuesday. Applications for hard-surfaced pitches, which are free of charge, are accepted at Victoria Park from 9 a.m. to 12 noon each Monday. All applications are accepted on the principle of first come, first served. The Director of Education informs me that all applications for hard-surfaced pitches have been met and the pitches are not fully booked at present. There is a large demand for grass pitches which cannot be met because the condition of the grass limits the number of games. At Happy Valley, applications for grass pitches at the popular times exceed the number of pitches available, but outside these times pitches are available. If any school or organization has any difficulty in obtaining the use of a games pitch I am sure that the Director of Education will do his best to fit them in to the timetable, and I shall be glad to forward to the Director any detailed representations which you, Sir, may care to send me.”

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191

MR. A. DE O. SALES asked the following question :

"(a) Is it true to say that the new arrangements for confining hawkers at Shamshuipo and other markets to well-defined areas do in fact increase the number of spaces available to them?

(b) Does the number of hawkers applying daily to trade in these areas fluctuate to any appreciable extent?

(c) Has there been a noticeable movement of hawkers to nearby streets outside the controlled areas? (d) Has the number of hawkers increased around the other markets which are not yet subject to such control ?"

THE CHAIRMAN tabled the following written reply :-

"(a) Yes Sir. We have found that more hawkers trade in these areas now than used to. There is not so much rubbish and paraphernalia about and businesses are smaller.

(b) There is a slight variation from day to day--about over 10% of the average number trading. At Chinese New Year there were very large numbers trading on the last days of the old year and practically none on the first days of the new year.

(c) No Sir. The demonstration areas are made big enough to include all the sites in a particular district on which hawkers can find customers. The borders of the demonstration areas are bad places for business.

(d) The only noticeable change is a slight increase in hawkers selling prohibited commodities-i.e. meat, fish and poultry, but no accurate figures are available. There really is not room for many more. It is however known that some hawkers have come to the demonstration areas to trade for the first time. The tendency is for hawkers to prefer the demonstration areas to the ...

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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

DR. P. F. Woo asked the following question :--

"Has the Chairman noticed the fact that certain schools or organizations in the Colony have encountered difficulties in trying to make use of the playing fields in Victoria Park? Would the Chairman explain the procedure for application to use these fields so that they may be more accessible to the various organi-zations ?"

CHAIRMAN:

This is primarily a matter for the Education Department but a written reply has been supplied.

"Systematic booking and allocation of pitches is carried out each week by the Director of Education, who has been good enough to supply the following in-formation--

Applications for grass pitches, for which a fee is charged, are accepted at the Education Department from 9 a.m. each Tuesday. Appli-cations for hard-surfaced pitches, which are free of charge, are accepted at Victoria Park from 9 a.m. to 12 noon each Monday. All applica-tions are accepted on the principle of first come, first served. The Director of Education in-forms me that all applications for hard-surfaced pitches have been met and the pitches are not fully booked at present. There is a large demand for grass pitches which cannot be met because the condition of the grass limits the number of games. At Happy Valley, applica-tions for grass pitches at the popular times. exceed the number of pitches available, but out-side these times pitches are available. school or organization has any difficulty in ob-taining the use of a games pitch I am sure that the Director of Education will do his best to fit them in to the time-table, and I shall be glad to forward to the Director any detailed representa-tions which you, Sir, may care to send me.”

If any

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

191

MR. A. DE O. SALES asked the following question :

"(a) Is it true to say that the new arrangements for confining hawkers at Shamshuipo and other markets to well-defined areas do in fact increase the number of spaces available to them?

(b) Does the number of hawkers applying daily to trade in these areas fluctuate to any appreciable

extent?

(c) Has there been a noticeable movement of hawkers

to nearby streets outside the controlled areas? (d) Has the number of hawkers increased around the other markets which are not yet subject to such control ?"

THE CHAIRMAN tabled the following written reply :-

"(a) Yes Sir. We have found that more hawkers trade in these areas now than used to. There is not so much rubbish and paraphernalia about and businesses are smaller.

(b) There is a slight variation from day to day--about Over 10% of the average number trading. Chinese New Year there were very large num-bers trading on the last days of the old year and practically none on the first days of the new

year.

(c) No Sir. The demonstration areas are made big enough to include all the sites in a particular district on which hawkers can find customers. The borders of the demonstration areas are bad places for business.

(d) The only noticeable change is a slight increase in hawkers selling prohibited commodities-i.e. meat, fish and poultry, but no accurate figures are available. There really is not room for It is however known that some many more. hawkers have come to the demonstration areas to trade for the first time. The tendency is for hawkers to prefer the demonstration areas to the becomes:

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190

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

DR. P. F. Woo asked the following question :--

"Has the Chairman noticed the fact that certain schools or organizations in the Colony have encountered difficulties in trying to make use of the playing fields in Victoria Park? Would the Chairman explain the procedure for application to use these fields so that they may be more accessible to the various organizations ?"

CHAIRMAN:

This is primarily a matter for the Education Department but a written reply has been supplied.

"Systematic booking and allocation of pitches is carried out each week by the Director of Education, who has been good enough to supply the following information--

Applications for grass pitches, for which a fee is charged, are accepted at the Education Department from 9 a.m. each Tuesday. Applications for hard-surfaced pitches, which are free of charge, are accepted at Victoria Park from 9 a.m. to 12 noon each Monday. All applications are accepted on the principle of first come, first served. The Director of Education informs me that all applications for hard-surfaced pitches have been met and the pitches are not fully booked at present. There is a large demand for grass pitches which cannot be met because the condition of the grass limits the number of games. At Happy Valley, applications for grass pitches at the popular times exceed the number of pitches available, but outside these times pitches are available. If any school or organization has any difficulty in obtaining the use of a games pitch I am sure that the Director of Education will do his best to fit them in to the timetable, and I shall be glad to forward to the Director any detailed representations which you, Sir, may care to send me.”

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

191

MR. A. DE O. SALES asked the following question :

"(a) Is it true to say that the new arrangements for confining hawkers at Shamshuipo and other markets to well-defined areas do in fact increase the number of spaces available to them?

(b) Does the number of hawkers applying daily to trade in these areas fluctuate to any appreciable extent?

(c) Has there been a noticeable movement of hawkers to nearby streets outside the controlled areas? (d) Has the number of hawkers increased around the other markets which are not yet subject to such control ?"

THE CHAIRMAN tabled the following written reply :-

"(a) Yes Sir. We have found that more hawkers trade in these areas now than used to. There is not so much rubbish and paraphernalia about and businesses are smaller.

(b) There is a slight variation from day to day--about over 10% of the average number trading. At Chinese New Year there were very large numbers trading on the last days of the old year and practically none on the first days of the new year.

(c) No Sir. The demonstration areas are made big enough to include all the sites in a particular district on which hawkers can find customers. The borders of the demonstration areas are bad places for business.

(d) The only noticeable change is a slight increase in hawkers selling prohibited commodities-i.e. meat, fish and poultry, but no accurate figures are available. There really is not room for many more. It is however known that some hawkers have come to the demonstration areas to trade for the first time. The tendency is for hawkers to prefer the demonstration areas to the uncontrolled areas."

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Page 103 of 115 190 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL DR. P. F. Woo asked the following question :-- "Has the Chairman noticed the fact that certain schools or organizations in the Colony have encountered difficulties in trying to make use of the playing fields in Victoria Park? Would the Chairman explain the procedure for application to use these fields so that they may be more accessible to the various organizations ?" CHAIRMAN: This is primarily a matter for the Education Department but a written reply has been supplied. "Systematic booking and allocation of pitches is carried out each week by the Director of Education, who has been good enough to supply the following information-- Applications for grass pitches, for which a fee is charged, are accepted at the Education Department from 9 a.m. each Tuesday. Applications for hard-surfaced pitches, which are free of charge, are accepted at Victoria Park from 9 a.m. to 12 noon each Monday. All applications are accepted on the principle of first come, first served. The Director of Education informs me that all applications for hard-surfaced pitches have been met and the pitches are not fully booked at present. There is a large demand for grass pitches which cannot be met because the condition of the grass limits the number of games. At Happy Valley, applications for grass pitches at the popular times exceed the number of pitches available, but outside these times pitches are available. If any school or organization has any difficulty in obtaining the use of a games pitch I am sure that the Director of Education will do his best to fit them in to the timetable, and I shall be glad to forward to the Director any detailed representations which you, Sir, may care to send me.” HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 191 MR. A. DE O. SALES asked the following question : "(a) Is it true to say that the new arrangements for confining hawkers at Shamshuipo and other markets to well-defined areas do in fact increase the number of spaces available to them? (b) Does the number of hawkers applying daily to trade in these areas fluctuate to any appreciable extent? (c) Has there been a noticeable movement of hawkers to nearby streets outside the controlled areas? (d) Has the number of hawkers increased around the other markets which are not yet subject to such control ?" THE CHAIRMAN tabled the following written reply :- "(a) Yes Sir. We have found that more hawkers trade in these areas now than used to. There is not so much rubbish and paraphernalia about and businesses are smaller. (b) There is a slight variation from day to day--about over 10% of the average number trading. At Chinese New Year there were very large numbers trading on the last days of the old year and practically none on the first days of the new year. (c) No Sir. The demonstration areas are made big enough to include all the sites in a particular district on which hawkers can find customers. The borders of the demonstration areas are bad places for business. (d) The only noticeable change is a slight increase in hawkers selling prohibited commodities-i.e. meat, fish and poultry, but no accurate figures are available. There really is not room for many more. It is however known that some hawkers have come to the demonstration areas to trade for the first time. The tendency is for hawkers to prefer the demonstration areas to the ... Page 103 of 115 190 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL DR. P. F. Woo asked the following question :-- "Has the Chairman noticed the fact that certain schools or organizations in the Colony have encountered difficulties in trying to make use of the playing fields in Victoria Park? Would the Chairman explain the procedure for application to use these fields so that they may be more accessible to the various organi-zations ?" CHAIRMAN: This is primarily a matter for the Education Department but a written reply has been supplied. "Systematic booking and allocation of pitches is carried out each week by the Director of Education, who has been good enough to supply the following in-formation-- Applications for grass pitches, for which a fee is charged, are accepted at the Education Department from 9 a.m. each Tuesday. Appli-cations for hard-surfaced pitches, which are free of charge, are accepted at Victoria Park from 9 a.m. to 12 noon each Monday. All applica-tions are accepted on the principle of first come, first served. The Director of Education in-forms me that all applications for hard-surfaced pitches have been met and the pitches are not fully booked at present. There is a large demand for grass pitches which cannot be met because the condition of the grass limits the number of games. At Happy Valley, applica-tions for grass pitches at the popular times. exceed the number of pitches available, but out-side these times pitches are available. school or organization has any difficulty in ob-taining the use of a games pitch I am sure that the Director of Education will do his best to fit them in to the time-table, and I shall be glad to forward to the Director any detailed representa-tions which you, Sir, may care to send me.” If any HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 191 MR. A. DE O. SALES asked the following question : "(a) Is it true to say that the new arrangements for confining hawkers at Shamshuipo and other markets to well-defined areas do in fact increase the number of spaces available to them? (b) Does the number of hawkers applying daily to trade in these areas fluctuate to any appreciable extent? (c) Has there been a noticeable movement of hawkers to nearby streets outside the controlled areas? (d) Has the number of hawkers increased around the other markets which are not yet subject to such control ?" THE CHAIRMAN tabled the following written reply :- "(a) Yes Sir. We have found that more hawkers trade in these areas now than used to. There is not so much rubbish and paraphernalia about and businesses are smaller. (b) There is a slight variation from day to day--about Over 10% of the average number trading. Chinese New Year there were very large num-bers trading on the last days of the old year and practically none on the first days of the new year. (c) No Sir. The demonstration areas are made big enough to include all the sites in a particular district on which hawkers can find customers. The borders of the demonstration areas are bad places for business. (d) The only noticeable change is a slight increase in hawkers selling prohibited commodities-i.e. meat, fish and poultry, but no accurate figures are available. There really is not room for It is however known that some many more. hawkers have come to the demonstration areas to trade for the first time. The tendency is for hawkers to prefer the demonstration areas to the becomes: Page 103 of 115 190 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL DR. P. F. Woo asked the following question :-- "Has the Chairman noticed the fact that certain schools or organizations in the Colony have encountered difficulties in trying to make use of the playing fields in Victoria Park? Would the Chairman explain the procedure for application to use these fields so that they may be more accessible to the various organizations ?" CHAIRMAN: This is primarily a matter for the Education Department but a written reply has been supplied. "Systematic booking and allocation of pitches is carried out each week by the Director of Education, who has been good enough to supply the following information-- Applications for grass pitches, for which a fee is charged, are accepted at the Education Department from 9 a.m. each Tuesday. Applications for hard-surfaced pitches, which are free of charge, are accepted at Victoria Park from 9 a.m. to 12 noon each Monday. All applications are accepted on the principle of first come, first served. The Director of Education informs me that all applications for hard-surfaced pitches have been met and the pitches are not fully booked at present. There is a large demand for grass pitches which cannot be met because the condition of the grass limits the number of games. At Happy Valley, applications for grass pitches at the popular times exceed the number of pitches available, but outside these times pitches are available. If any school or organization has any difficulty in obtaining the use of a games pitch I am sure that the Director of Education will do his best to fit them in to the timetable, and I shall be glad to forward to the Director any detailed representations which you, Sir, may care to send me.” HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 191 MR. A. DE O. SALES asked the following question : "(a) Is it true to say that the new arrangements for confining hawkers at Shamshuipo and other markets to well-defined areas do in fact increase the number of spaces available to them? (b) Does the number of hawkers applying daily to trade in these areas fluctuate to any appreciable extent? (c) Has there been a noticeable movement of hawkers to nearby streets outside the controlled areas? (d) Has the number of hawkers increased around the other markets which are not yet subject to such control ?" THE CHAIRMAN tabled the following written reply :- "(a) Yes Sir. We have found that more hawkers trade in these areas now than used to. There is not so much rubbish and paraphernalia about and businesses are smaller. (b) There is a slight variation from day to day--about over 10% of the average number trading. At Chinese New Year there were very large numbers trading on the last days of the old year and practically none on the first days of the new year. (c) No Sir. The demonstration areas are made big enough to include all the sites in a particular district on which hawkers can find customers. The borders of the demonstration areas are bad places for business. (d) The only noticeable change is a slight increase in hawkers selling prohibited commodities-i.e. meat, fish and poultry, but no accurate figures are available. There really is not room for many more. It is however known that some hawkers have come to the demonstration areas to trade for the first time. The tendency is for hawkers to prefer the demonstration areas to the uncontrolled areas." Page 104 of 115
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of 115 Page 103 of 115 190 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL DR. P. F. Woo asked the following question :-- "Has the Chairman noticed the fact that certain schools or organizations in the Colony have encountered difficulties in trying to make use of the playing fields in Victoria Park? Would the Chairman explain the procedure for application to use these fields so that they may be more accessible to the various organi- zations ?" CHAIRMAN: This is primarily a matter for the Education Department but a written reply has been supplied. "Systematic booking and allocation of pitches is carried out each week by the Director of Education, who has been good enough to supply the following in- formation-- Applications for grass pitches, for which a fee is charged, are accepted at the Education Department from 9 a.m. each Tuesday. Appli- cations for hard-surfaced pitches, which are free of charge, are accepted at Victoria Park from 9 a.m. to 12 noon each Monday. All applica- tions are accepted on the principle of first come, first served. The Director of Education in- forms me that all applications for hard-surfaced pitches have been met and the pitches are not fully booked at present. There is a large demand for grass pitches which cannot be met because the condition of the grass limits the number of games. At Happy Valley, applica- tions for grass pitches at the popular times. exceed the number of pitches available, but out- side these times pitches are available. school or organization has any difficulty in ob- taining the use of a games pitch I am sure that the Director of Education will do his best to fit them in to the time-table, and I shall be glad to forward to the Director any detailed representa- tions which you, Sir, may care to send me.” If any HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 191 MR. A. DE O. SALES asked the following question : "(a) Is it true to say that the new arrangements for confining hawkers at Shamshuipo and other markets to well-defined areas do in fact increase the number of spaces available to them? (b) Does the number of hawkers applying daily to trade in these areas fluctuate to any appreciable extent? (c) Has there been a noticeable movement of hawkers to nearby streets outside the controlled areas? (d) Has the number of hawkers increased around the other markets which are not yet subject to such control ?" THE CHAIRMAN tabled the following written reply :- "(a) Yes Sir. We have found that more hawkers trade in these areas now than used to. There is not so much rubbish and paraphernalia about and businesses are smaller. (b) There is a slight variation from day to day--about Over 10% of the average number trading. Chinese New Year there were very large num- bers trading on the last days of the old year and practically none on the first days of the new year. (c) No Sir. The demonstration areas are made big enough to include all the sites in a particular district on which hawkers can find customers. The borders of the demonstration areas are bad places for business. (d) The only noticeable change is a slight increase in hawkers selling prohibited commodities-i.e. meat, fish and poultry, but no accurate figures are available. There really is not room for It is however known that some many more. hawkers have come to the demonstration areas to trade for the first time. The tendency is for hawkers to prefer the demonstration areas to the D F
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190

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

DR. P. F. Woo asked the following question :--

"Has the Chairman noticed the fact that certain schools or organizations in the Colony have encountered difficulties in trying to make use of the playing fields in Victoria Park? Would the Chairman explain the procedure for application to use these fields so that they may be more accessible to the various organi- zations ?"

CHAIRMAN:

This is primarily a matter for the Education Department but a written reply has been supplied.

"Systematic booking and allocation of pitches is carried out each week by the Director of Education, who has been good enough to supply the following in- formation--

Applications for grass pitches, for which a fee is charged, are accepted at the Education Department from 9 a.m. each Tuesday. Appli- cations for hard-surfaced pitches, which are free of charge, are accepted at Victoria Park from 9 a.m. to 12 noon each Monday. All applica- tions are accepted on the principle of first come, first served. The Director of Education in- forms me that all applications for hard-surfaced pitches have been met and the pitches are not fully booked at present. There is a large demand for grass pitches which cannot be met because the condition of the grass limits the number of games. At Happy Valley, applica- tions for grass pitches at the popular times. exceed the number of pitches available, but out- side these times pitches are available. school or organization has any difficulty in ob- taining the use of a games pitch I am sure that the Director of Education will do his best to fit them in to the time-table, and I shall be glad to forward to the Director any detailed representa- tions which you, Sir, may care to send me.”

If any

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

191

MR. A. DE O. SALES asked the following question :

"(a) Is it true to say that the new arrangements for confining hawkers at Shamshuipo and other markets to well-defined areas do in fact increase the number of spaces available to them?

(b) Does the number of hawkers applying daily to trade in these areas fluctuate to any appreciable

extent?

(c) Has there been a noticeable movement of hawkers

to nearby streets outside the controlled areas? (d) Has the number of hawkers increased around the other markets which are not yet subject to such control ?"

THE CHAIRMAN tabled the following written reply :-

"(a) Yes Sir. We have found that more hawkers trade in these areas now than used to. There is not so much rubbish and paraphernalia about and businesses are smaller.

(b) There is a slight variation from day to day--about Over 10% of the average number trading. Chinese New Year there were very large num- bers trading on the last days of the old year and practically none on the first days of the new

year.

(c) No Sir. The demonstration areas are made big enough to include all the sites in a particular district on which hawkers can find customers. The borders of the demonstration areas are bad places for business.

(d) The only noticeable change is a slight increase in hawkers selling prohibited commodities-i.e. meat, fish and poultry, but no accurate figures are available. There really is not room for It is however known that some many more. hawkers have come to the demonstration areas to trade for the first time. The tendency is for hawkers to prefer the demonstration areas to the

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