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is No Objection to its Use

LORD LYON'S DENIAL Modification of the Ban for the

Coronation

A new controversy has arleen over the use of the Lion Rampant flag of Scotland, involving, on op- posite sides, such authoritics as Mr. Ramsay MacDonald, Lord President of the Council, and Sir Francis J. Grant, Lord Lyon King of Arms.

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fact, quite the reverse is the position: at the moment."

Sir Francis refused to go into the detalls of the letter from Mr. Ramsay MacDonald on the grounds that "the motter is too delicute a one to be made public."

He pointed out, however, that the flying of the Lion Hampant is pro- filled by statute, but that a made- fleation has been made with regard to the forthcoming Coronation celc- brations.

"The flag" said the Lord Lyon, "may be used for decoration purpose and may be droped, but it is still quite illegal to fly it from a Dag- staff."

Warrant

Was

Mr. Ramsay MacDonald has made the pronouncement that there is no objection to the display of the flag. Two years ago, he says a Royal Warrant was issued to the Lord Lyon King of Arms directing that in future no official cogni- sance be taken of the display of the fing. The Lord Lyon emphatically differs Ile denies that the Royal War- rant gave any such direction as Mr. MacDonald suggests, maintains that his authority on the point is unimpaired. IIe states that the flying of the

in- am still the authority on this Lion Rampant by private dividuals is prohibited, but that matter. The Lion flag is the private a modification of the order has property, of the Klag, and those who been made for the Coronationly it without being entered on the

are still able proper register celebrations, under which it will

prosecution."

SUPPORT FOR LORD LYON be permissible to use the Bug

agree with Sir Francis decoration pагровен, The

for

Lord Lyon, referring to the pronouncement of Mr. MacDonald, said: "That is entirely wrong. Certainly Royal issued, the terms of which I cannot

It is entirely and reveal, but

foundation to say that i was direct ed to take no official cognisance of the flying of the Lion Rampant.

IT

without

to

ban on flying it from a flagstaf | Grant Mr. George F. Hoy,

will still remain, however.

secretary of the St. Andrew Society of Edinburgh, to a reporter.

"Our Society has always taken up the attitude that the

CONFLICTING VIEWS Lion Rampant is the of the

Mr. Ramsay MacDonald on Terms of Royal Warrant "ALL WRONG.” SAYS LORD LYON

prerogative of the

and, Jis representatives. we understand, however, that the flog may be used by private in- dividuals for draping purposes."

Mr. John A. Stewart, convener of the Heraldry Committee of the S1. Andrew Society of Glasgow, sald:-

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Rights amounting almost to British citizenship have been granted here to fugitives from the French penol colony, Devil's Island.

Eight escaped men now in Trini- dnd will be allowed to remain if they are low-abiding. Sir Murchison Fletcher, the governor, has pro- mised to find passages whenever the. men wish to leave and, if necessary, pay their fares.

The decision is temporary, and awaits a final ruling by the Colonial Omec.

at is theatre. He was asked by a representative of the Lord-Lieutenant of the county of Stirling to take the flag, down.

Later the management of the ple- ture house received a letter from the Under-Secretary of State for Scot- 'land. Sir John Lamb, which in- timated that "there is no necessity to discourage the display of this flug.**

"The Royal Warrant was certainly issued, but it is ultra vires. It was w.stated by the late Sir Godfrey Collins, Some time ago Mr. Charles

of Buckic when Secretary of State for Scot- Thomson; an ox-rector

land, that now legislation, was re- Secondary School, who is now rest- dent in Glasgow, and who is a noted quired before any person could use advocate of the use of the Lion Ram- any part of the Royal Arms. That pant flag, wrote to Mr. Ramsay new legislation has not been put

round it by Royal Warrant. could be done to end the ting

There are various Government Irritation caused by pedan-

have power to Several months afterwards, follow- the agitation on

the question of Departments that

make law as they go along, but that

hoting a suggestion made by the Nation- Scottish flags.

not. apply to heraldry. The ry tic

al Party of Scotland that the Lion "Every now and again warnings dora

in Rampant should be flown over munie 03-10 the dire consequences Royal Arms are registered are Issued

cipal buildings throughout Scotland of using the traditional Scottish fing Lyon Office by Acts of Parliament.

the and neither Secretary of State nor on the anniversary of the Battle of -traditional, at least, within

other person can set these aside. Bannockburn, an official circular was Issued by the Court of the Lord Lyon pointing out that the Lion Rampant was the property of the King, and that its use by private individuals was a statutory offence.

of the oldest people now the Royal Warrant merely sug- Avingthe Lion Rampant,

view of the approaching gested that the Lyon King should

Lake no notice. celebrations and Coronation, with its

the present time would

"It is contrary to the law of Scol- any

decoting for a statementland, and no Scotsman with

be

by His Majesty, or by His Majesty's Government, that wolving all ques- tions of formal heraldry-no excep- tion would be taken to the display of this historic nag for decorative purposes or on public and national

occasions."

MR. MACDONALD'S REPLY From the Privy Council Office, Whitehall, Mr. Thomson received the following letter in reply:-

"I am desired by Mr. Ramsay MacDonald to acknowledge the re- ceipt of your letter of November 10 and to say there is no objection to

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"At one time objection was taken

respect for Scotland would use the Lion Rampant.

"The real ban is on the Scottigli national Bag St. Andrew's Cross. Neither the War Office nor the Admiralty allow it to be used.

Many English regiments carry-the-

St. George's Cross as their second colour, but Scottish regiments are not permitted to carry the corresponding banner of St. Andrew.

The Scottish flag has not got its broper Justice in the British Ser- vlees,"

HISTORY OF THE DISPUTE

an heraldic grounds to the display of Lion Rampant "the Property

this dog.

"It became apparent, however, thai

the Lion Rampant flag made a strong appeal to Scottish sentiment; and in LORD September 1934, a a Royal Warrant was issued to the Lyon King-of-Arms directing that henceforth no oficial cognisance should be taken of the display of this flag by His Majesty's loyal subjects."

SETTLED ONCE AND FOR ALL!

When he was Interviewed recent- ly, Mr. Thomson said the letter divulged for the first time that s Royal Warrant had been issued to the Lyon King-of-Arms on the sub- ject.

Mr.

Thomson declared this letter has settled the

troversy

once

that con-

and for all. He

Self-constituted critics, and even

the Lord Lyon himself, have

dis-1

of the King"

LYON'S

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Three years ago

a dispute arose over the flying of the Lion Rampant by a Stirling picture house manager

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The Government had stated that enforcement of the Scottish Laws of Arms was reasonable, and obviously a considered breach of the Inw by responsible authorities could not be overlooked..

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the matter, was rulsed in House of Commons a month later by Mr. J. Reid, Unionist M.P. for Stir- ling. He asked Sir Godfrey Collins whether, in view of the recent pro- of the Lord Lyon King-

nouncemegarding the flying of the

of-Arme

Lion Rampant, he would make a further statement on the question.

Sir Godfrey, in hla reply, sold that

the

Lord Lyon was invested by statute with jurisdiction to deter- mine matters relating to armorial rights in Scotland,

Mr. Reld asked If, as the Scottish: Office had already indicated that it had no objection the flying of this flag, Sir Godfrey would consider taking steps to remove the technical objection at present existing

Sir Godfrey replied that the Lord Lyon was the Judge of those mal- ters, and fresh legislation would be required to remove the objection to the dying of the fing.

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The heraldic experts of, certain St. Andrew Societies, who professed to speak with authority, have now had their answer from the fountain

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