1934-11-07 — Page 8

THE HONGKONG TELEGRAPH. WEDNESDAY, ⠀ NOVEMBER

1984.

CORRESPONDENTS RUSH TO DEFENCE OF Y. INDIANS

OUR "FORM" GUIDE

How Your Team Has Been Faring In League.

The following table reveals how each team in the four divi- sions of the English longue have fared to date, the results includ- ing their last five moro matches up to yesterday.

The first figure in each case, of course, is that of the team concerned.

FIRST DIVISION,

THIRD DIVISION (SOUTH).'

Hirmingham 2-1 4-5 0-1 1-3 2-3 Aldershot

Derby C.....

Leeds

Aston Villa

Chelsea

*Middlesbro'

Leicester

Liverpool

Fortsmouth

Preston..! Wednesday Sunderland Tottenham -West Bromwich

Wolves Illackburn

Arsenal

Grimsby

Stoke..

Hoddersfield

Everton

1-0 1-1 1-0 2–0 0–1 | Brighton 3-6 0-0 2-0 2-3 3-2 Bristol E. 1- 2-2 1-4 4-2 2-2 Cardiff

2-3 2-) 1-0 0-2 2-5 | Clapton 0. 1-1 2-3 1-0 0-2 3-3 | Coventry 2-2 0-0 0-1 0-1 3-2

Exeter 1-441-1 2-2 2-1 Glilingham 1-2,0-) 4-0 1-1 $-0 | Luton 0-1 0-0 0-4 2–2 3–3 | Swindon 4-1 6-0 3–1 0–4 1–0 | Crystal 1'. 1-1 1-2 0-0 2-1 3-0 | Bristol R. 2-2 2-1 1-5 4–1.1–3 | Watford 6–3 2–3 4–1 0–1 2–2 Charlton 1-4 3-2 1-3 3-1 1-2 | Rending #2-2 0-0 1-0 2-2 Northampton 2-2 3-0 3-1 1-2 2-0 Newport" G-1 4-1 1-1 3-2 2-2 | Torquay 2-2 1-0 1-1 2-6 0-3. Southend 4-) 1-2 1-3 4-0 0-5 | Queen's P. R. 3-2 2-2 0-2 1-4 0-2 Bournemouth

Millwall

Manchester C 3-3 0-3 0-1 2-4-3-1

SECOND DIVISION

Bradford

Brentford

Burnley

Bury.. Fulham

Manchester U Notta F.

dham

Port Vale Swansea Barnsley Norwich

Southampton

Blackpoo Plymouth Bradford C. Newcastle Bolton Sheffield U Nolin C. Fall West Ham

-1 0-2 1-3 1-3 0-0 1-10 1-1 0-1 1-0

0-30-11-440-01-1 3-0 0-0 0-1 0-0 1-1 0-1 1-1 2-0 1-1 (~~)

2-1 0-0 3-1 1 1-1

4-0 1-1 2-0 1-2 2-0 |

5-1 1-3 4-0 1-2 0-0

1-2 2-3 1-2 0-0 3-1 2-1 1-3 0-0 0-2, 1-) 2-0 1-0 2-1 1′3 0-2 5-0 2-1 0-2 0-2 2-2 3-1 0-2 2-0 1-0

2-0 2-1 2-0 2-1 1-1

- 3-1 1-3 0-0 3-1 2-2 2-0 0-4 2-1 1-3 6-1 3-3 3-1 0-2 1-1 3-0 3-1 4-2 0-2 4-1 1-0 1-3 1-0 4-3 I-1

-2 1-2 1-3 2-0 0-6

2-3 0-0 0-2 2-1 1-3

2-2 0-3 0-0 2-0 0-2

1-2 1-3 1-1 2-0 Z-0

1-0 1-1 0-2 1-2 2-0

THIRD DIVISION (NORTH).

Accrington

3–1 1–1 2–2 3–0 1–2 Crewe

2-6 A-2 1-4 2–3 3–1 6-2 0-3 4-2 2-2 0-1 1-0 1-1 4 2-0 0-S 3-2 2-1 1-0 0-0 5-3 0-0 2-0 2-1 0-3 3-0 3–1 1–0 4–2 1–4 1–2 1-3 3-0 4-1 2-0 D-9 1-3 4-0 4-0 2-2 2-1

1-2 0-2 0 31 31 Darlington 1-2 2-1 2-0 3-3 2-1 Gateabend 4-0 1-2 1-1 3-3 alfax 3-1 4-0 1-0 3-1 2-1 | 1Aucoin 1-11-13-2 4-0 Rotherbam 2-0 0–4 0–2 5–0 0–4 Stockport 0-2 1-3 0-0 1-3 - Tranmere 3-4 2-0 0-2 2-1 1-2| Walsall 081-1 1-3 2-1 1-1 Wrexham 1-2 1-2 0-0 1-2 3-1 New Brighton 11-3 1-0 3-3 Duncaster

2-1 2-1 - 1-2 2-1 York 1-2 1-2 3–1 2–1 3–1 | Chester 3-2 3-0 1-3 1-1 1-3] Stanalbeld 4-3 2-1 0-1 3–1 4–1! Rochulale 8-0 3-1 2-0 2-3 0-1 | Chesterfield 1- 30 X'l-2 1-3) Southport 2-3 0-3 1-1.1-) 0-0] ('arlisle 0-1 2-0 0-2 0-5 1-3 ! Hartlepools

2-1 3-2 2-1-3 3-1 Harrow

D-4 0-4 0-2 2-3 1-1

2-3 0-1 3-0 0-0 1-0

1-1 2-2 0-3 0-0 2-1. 1-1 2-0 2-0 0-2 0-2 | 3-12-3 0-1 0-0 3-5 0-2 0-3 0-1 - 1-1) 3-0 0-1-1 1-1 2-0) 0-2 1-0 2-2 0-2 0-5 2-0 0-2 4-0 2-0 3-3 2-0 1-2 2-4 3-2 3-3 0-3 0-0 5–4 0–2 1–1 1-3 2-2 0-1 1-1 0-2 0-1 0-0 1-4 3-1,2-0

Stoke's Important Part In London Football

Stoke has played an important the Birmingham League, was the part in the rlac of London football, firal brick in the building of the) They were original members of the London stronghold na we know it League, and even in their success-to-day. ful days they counted gate of The dropping out of Stoke w 6,000 a good one. Receipta for Tottenham Hotspur's opportunity, the season then amounted to about and they were olected to all the £3,000. Now they are ten times

more.

generally It is perhaps not appreciated, but the development of motor transport has been the biggest factor in the making of the thousands of converts to the

If Hunt, the Tottenham Hotspur, centre-forward had connected with the ball there would have been a goal, but as the picture revealed, Saga. the Everton custodian got there first, and Hunt sailed gracefully through the air over the shoulders of the goalkeeper. This was an incident during a recent match at White Hart Lane.

THIRD DIV. TEAMS

STICK TO THEIR STAR PLAYERS

NOT SO READY TO TRANSFER THEM

SPLENDID POLICY OF ALOOFNESS WHICH SHOULD HELP

The big topic in football circles at the moment is the transfer of players, writes a correspondent in the Daily Mail. There is great activity behind the scenes in the Southern Section of the Third Division, and the demand for the star men by First Division clubs is very satisfac- tory. We could not have a clearer reminder of the vast improvement in the standard of football in the Southern Section.

Nobody realises

more clearly

MELBOURNE CUP

TO BEAT · THE BOOK

HOME

AWAY!

(By "Robin")

Everton Sunderland Tottenham Bolton

Manchester U.

Brighton

Charlton

Swindon

Crewe,

Doncaster

Southport Clyde

West Bromwich

Exeter Rangers

DRAWI

Stoke Reading Coventry

OUR FORECAST

For Saturday Programme

PERVERSION OF FACTS

ALLEGED

"VERITAS" PILLORIED FOR LAST WEEK'S COMMENTARY

SEQUEL TO WITHDRAWAL FROM THE

FOOTBALL LEAGUE

Further correspondents have rushed to defend the action of the Young Indians in withdrawing from the Football League, which action was criticised by "Veritas" in the Telegraph last Saturday. "Verily" in a letter published below contends that the Telegraph commentator mis-stated the facts in arriving at an un- fair conclusion. A letter has also been received from "Sports," publication of which is held over until to- morrow in view of the pressure on space.

Accompanying this letter to-morrow, "Veritas" will reply to his critics, and endeavour to justify his article of last week.

The Sports Editor,

which the

forward any kind of warning from The Hongkong Telegraph.

the Counell or any, other body of Stri--The hysterical vein in which the Association; leave alone, the "Veritas" condemned the Young Emergency Committee, Indians Football Club, In your Satur- How many gumen, in day's issue, for having withdenwn | Young Indians took part, has "Veri from the Second Division League hottaa" ever witnessed. The writer, only showed his one-sided reasonings having heard the supposedly bad re- but also made very disappointingputation of this team, made it a point reading from one on whom I had of attending some of the Young learned to regard as an unblased as- Indians' games and could quote in- thority on Local football topics. His stances of where the faults lie. apparent disregard for or ignorancu: In the match against the Royal of the real faels that led the Young Artillery no cleaner game could have Indians to take a step, which herently been wished for. Why? Because both was a distasteful to them as it was teams played according to the rules to the Football Association, baator football and not according to brought me to join issue with him. physical advantages.

1, therefore, appen to you, in fair- ness to the Young Indians, to give this as much proniinence as you did

The folowing is the special "Veritan." Telegraph' forecast for Saturday. Where teams are marked in heavy type they are expected to win, and where no such indication is given, In draw is anticipated.

FIRST DIVISION. ASTON VILLA. v Chelsen

DERBY COUNTY EVERTON Grimsby Town

r

Bheffield W. West Bromich Birmingham v Portsmouth Arsenal

HUDDERSFIELD T. Liverpool. Lekester City v. Stoke City SUNDERLAND TOTTENHAM

PRESTON N. E. v

Whampton

Blackburn E. Manchester C. Middlesbro

B

$

T

Leeds United

SECOND

DIVISION.

BARNSLEY BOLTON W.

T

Y

v

West Ham Fulham Norwich C.

Bradford C. Burnley MANCHESTER U. Notts C.

Port Vale

ין

▾ NOTTS F.

Jury Plymouth A. RRENTFORD) Blackpool Newcastle.U.....

Bradford Hull City

SHEFFIELD UT SOUTHAMPTON Y SWANSEA

THIRD DIVISION (SOUTII).

Alderant

BRIGHTON Bristol R.

*

Bournemouth

At the match against the Royal Engineers, in the first fifteen minutes no less than four foals were given and these were all against the latter

The attitude adopted by the Enter for unfair charging. Could one. geney Committee, to say the least, is therefore, say that the Young Indlans Indeed very arbitrary. At the en-are unft to take part in any local quiry over the incident of the Hong-football competition? kang Football Club-Young Indians "Veritas" emphasised that if the match, the referee stated that he Young. Indians were diasatinted with actually stopped the game and warned Emergency Committeo's decision, they both TEAMS for having adopted have the right to appeal to the Coun Tough and dangerous tactics and also ell of the Association. Does he know warned Mr. Baker once before he had that last year a member of the pre- to send this player from the field of sent Emergency Committee told the. play. This, Sie, was most emphati: Young Indians at an enquiry, when eally denied by the Young Indians the latter protested against, and in- representative at the said unquiry, timated that they would appeal Yet, no further stops were taken by against, this Committee's sentence of the Committee to verify these state- four works on one of its members,, ments but, taking the referee's word that if they appealed they would get na absolute truth, they (the Commit six weeks and not four tee members) took serious view of

Smarting under the sting of such a this particular incident and suspend-throat, what in the earthly use of ed Mr. Baker for two months.

tence?

The referee, perhaps knowing thepealing against the present ser- full backing he would receive from the authorities, made statements

UNFORTUNATE, INFLUENCE.

which were challenged by the Young It appears rather unfortunate that Indiane. In all common justice the the Indian team figured in several enquiry should have been adjourned matches in which some of its for further evidence to prave the truth opponents were brought up for hit or untruth of those statements. But ting an opponent or for ungentleman- But this certainly should instead the Committee passed jugly conduct. ment as above and also warned the un- not influenco the Committco against fortunate Young Indians that the then and thus place the blanis on the next Ume one of its members

In toani. brought up before this Committee tho WHOLE TEAM would be suspended from further participation in local

football.

I would like to question this Com- Northampton T.mittee the right and authority from

Hristol C.

Y

Reading

Y

V

Exeter C.

CARDIFF C.

*

CHARLTON A.

Y

Millwall

Y

Watford

[Queen's P. R.

W

Southend

r - Newport

SWINDON

*

Gillingham

v Clapton

Crystal Palace LUTON

But I am glad to discover that clubs are not parting with their best men as readily as in previous years, vnesney in the Second Division, Big football in London really dates) Hitherto it has been the policy but Coventry have steadfastly re- from this time, for although Woul.of the clubs to develop their fused to listen to all offers. This Oldham The change is undoubtedly due wich Arsenal were the pioneers it players with a view to transferring is trae, too, of my own club. Lo. the wideningof Interest

was not until the Hotspur were them Experiences within the last Less successful -clubs-such as Motor-cars and charabanes were launched In the League that the two weeks have I think provided Clapton Orient and Torquay have purked in the streets round the interest of the public was ground in hundreds. Soon the tured.

cap-good evidence of a new determin- also so far been able to resist very tion in the clubs to keep their tempting offers for the transfer of club will have their own park to

To-day the Stoke club are in a players. Indeed, they are ready, certain players. I hope and be accommodate 400 care and 100 stronger position than ever before should it prove passible, to streng-lieve that they will be rewarded charabanca. To-day Stoke

draw Their fine ground, still with its then their own weaknesses.

in the click of the turnstiles. their supportera from a radius quaint old cricket pavltion tucked This policy is a 'sound one. 30 miles.

away in the corner, will hold well

DIC TEMPTATION. over 60,000 people, and a large proportion are under cover. Better still, they have a young team of than I how sorely tempted a Third great promise under the guidance Division club can be when a big of Bob McGrory, who at his age cheque is dangled before the eyes still plays remarkably. It was his for the transfer of a star player.) birthday a fortnight ago-and-But I am convlaced that many of Thero is one page in the history well he must be the oldest mann in the clubs are now suffering from of the Stoke club of the greatest Brst-class football. He is assist-the effects of a policy which, in significance. Their disaster. inant manager to Mr. Tom Mather, the past, has resulted in the sale last in the Melbourne Cup classic at Crowe 1908, when they were wound up under whose control the wonderful of good players rear after year and Flemington Race Course to-day, when DARLINGTON and had to make a fresh start in revival of the club has taken place, consequent loss of Interest by the Peter Pan, nt 14 to one, beat Sar- DONCASTER

supporters, who have given up cherie and Last Robe. hope of the club ever achieving! His Royal Highness the Duke of anything in football,

Gloucester drove in state along the If we can only maintain the straight and was given a tremendous polley of aloofness for a season or reception from a hundred thousand two and let the Arsenals and the Chelseas keep their big money. then the much maligned Third Division will go on improving. And the bigger crowds that have been attracted to matches this season will continue to attend,

game.

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As the manager of one of the lending clubs in the Southern Sec- tion whose gates are averaging) over 18,000, I may not be con eldered in a posltion to advise, I am convinced, however, that we must keep our best players if the competition is to advance.. We can keep at home those spectators who now travel to see First and. Second Division games.

Nothing more quickly destroya the confidence and morale of a

Peter Pan Wins Classic Race

TORQUAY

COVENTRY

THIRD DIVISION (NORTH), Accrington Y. WREXHAM The favourite, Sir Simper, finished CHESTER

Melbourne, Nov. 0.

CLASSIFICATION

OF PONIES.

LATEST ALTERATIONS AND ADDITIONS.

The Hongkong Jockey Club announces the following alterations and additions 10 the classification list dated August 28.

Australian ponies:---Aus- tralian Boy to A Class; Wood. land Stag to B Class.

China ponies:-West Parade to C Class; Racing Luck to D Class.

club's supporters than the depar-race goers, who wore all soaked to the ture of star players. A transfer skin from rain. which lasted unti

C.

Chesterfield

Rochdale

Y

Ilatifax

Barrow

Gateshead

V

TRANMERE K.

Hartlepools NEW BRIGHTON SOUTHPORT STOCKPORT C. v York City

V

Carlisle

Wainall

g

14

Lincoln C. Rotherham SCOTTISH LEAGUE

Mansfield

Aberdeen

Abbion Rovers

CLYDE

DUNDEE

Falkirk

Hamilton HIBERNIANS

KILMARNOCK PARTICK St. Mirren

+ ST. JOHNSTONE

▾ RANGERS

V

Y

▼

ν

Hearts

Ayr U.

CELTIC

Queen's Park Airdrieonians

Q. of South

Dunfermline

✓ MOTHERWELL

RUGBY FOOTBALL

Club "A" XV To Meet Army Combination

The following will represent the Longkong Football Club "A" XV Royal Artillery and Lincolnshire Regiment on the Club Ground at 6 pm, to-day:

| fee of £2,000 or £3,000 for a player just before the start of the race. against a team drawn from the

may ease the financial burden for

Always the principal classic race the time being, but the polley is an Australia, the Melbourne Cup this short-sighted she. It has ita in- to the Centenary Celebrations

year was worth £10,000, and owing evitable repercussions in dwind-tracted more than usual interest. ling gates.

Th

SUCCESS EXPLAINED,

The succoss of the two top clubs

The result was:

Peter Pan

Satchario

Last Robs

There wore twenty-two starters.

G. P. Lammert: R. Goldman, R. II. Griffiths, L. G. Robertson (Capt.) and G. B. Jonos: J. Hutchison and H. L. Tudor;. R. L. Cherrill, R. G. Castleton, B. D. G. Barlow, 7. H. Bradford, S. H. Garrod, D. A. Cum ning, J. T. Edkins and M. W. Scott.

Reserves: H. R. McGilchrist, W; G. Refores: Dr. J. A. R..Belby...

at the moment, Coventry and Charl-Peter Pan won by three lengths, with. Knowles, ton, is a direct result of the refusal a neck separating the second and

of both clubs to part with their third horses. The winner's time was. On Saturday, November 10 tho best players. Coventry, I fool 8 mins 40 secs. The betting was Club #A" XV will meet the Army sure, must be tired of turning 14/1 Peter Pan: 50/1 Sarcherie and A XV at Scokuspoo at 8 p.m. down offers for at least thres of 25/1 Last Robe.

The first Fiftoons will meat in a their forwards. Bourton, Lake, The favourite, Sir Simpor, after friendly fixture on the same ground and Lauderdale have been ap-winning post, was gradually, passed As Monday November 12 is a

baing fifth two furlongs from the at 4.18 pan. proved by the bigger cluba na ilke by the remainder of the entries and Holiday there will be no Rugby prac

candidates for a rise in status; finished last-Router.

Jtico that evening.

which it assumes in making this drastic intimidation. It has, inay be, the privilege to recommend but cer- tainly not the right to suspend.

I can safely say that the methods adopted by some of the Young Indiana' opponents and also the "mils takes" made by some of the referees of the Council, and had some of Ahould have boon brought to the notice the officials seen the Young Indians

In actio

they would have found for themselves that this team of young. and promising players is not as bad as reports painted it to be.

.NOT SUCH A BAD RECORD.

In considering the fact that one, As one who has been connected with Kowloon player tras suspended for local football both officially and un four weeks for netually" hitting an- officially for the past twenty years and other player, one Navy player won- over lui mo assure "Veritas" that the cautioned for hitting a Young Indian past record of the Young Indians is player, one South China ist. XX player not as bad as those of some of the for kleking an opponent was warned yrosent members of the Hongkong and a member of the Railway loan. Football Association and yet repeti- was suspended for an offence in . tion of ungentlemenly conduct by game that culminated in the reforce players from auch clubs never brought (Continued on Page 9.)

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