THE HONGKONG. TELEGRAPH WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 1934.
CORRESPONDENTS RUSH TO DEFENCE OF Y. INDIANS
OUR "FORM" GUIDE How Your Team Has Been
Faring In League
The following table reveals how each feam in the four divi- sions of the English lengue have fared to date, the results includ- ing their last five more matches up to yesterday.
The first figure in each caso, of course, is that of the team concerned.
FIRST DIVISION.
*Birmingham
Derby C. Leeds Anton Vill
Chelsea Middlesbro
Leicester
Liverpool Portsmouth
Preston
Wednesday
Sunderland
Tottenhame
West Bromwich Wolres
Blackburn
Armental
Grimaby
Stoke
THIRD
2-1 4-5 0-1 1-3 2-3 Aldershot 1-0 1-4 1-0 2-0 0-1 | Brighton 3-6 0-0 1-5 2-2
2-3 5-2 tristol C. 4-2 2-2 Cardif
2-3 2-1, 1-0 0-2 2-5 Clapton O. 1-1 2-3 1-0 0-2 3-3 | Coventry
2-2 0-0 0-1 0-1 3-2 Exeter 1-4 6-4 1-1 2-2 2-1 Gillingham 1-2 0-1 4-0 1-4 6-0 Luton 0-1 0-0 0-4 2-2 -3 Swindon 4-1 0-0 1-1 0-4 1,0 | Crystal 1o. 1-1 1-2 0-0 2-1 3-0 | dīristol R. 2-2 2-1 1-0 1-1 1-3 Watford 0-3 2-3 4-1 0-4 2-2 Charlton 1-4 3-2 1-3 3-1 1-2 Reading
.....
DIVISION (SOUTH).
3-3 2-2 0-0 1-0 2-2 Northampton
-1-2 2-0 Newport
5-1 2-2
2-2 Torquay 0-3 Southend 4-11-2 4-0 0-5 (veen's P. R. 1-2 2-2 0-2 1-0 0-2 Bournemouth Manchester C. 1–3 0–3 0–1 2–4 3–1 | Milwa{l·
Huddersfield
Everton ...
SECOND DIVISION
Bradford
Brentford
Burnley
Bury
Fulham
Notin F. Oldham
Port Vale
0-3 0-1 1-4 0-0 1-1 3-0 0-0 0-1 0-0·1-4
0-4 3-1 2-0 1-1 0-1
2-1 0-0 3-1 3-$$~1 4-0 3-1 2-0 1-2 2-0 5-1-1-3 4-0 1-2 0-0 1-2 2-3 1-2 0-0 3-1 2-1 1-1 0-0 0-2
2-0.1-0 2-i
2-2
2-0
2-2 6-1
1-0 3-1 4-2 0-2 4-1
1-81-3 1-0 4-3 1-1
3-2 1-2 1-3 2-0 0-6
23 06 0-2 2-1 1-3
2-2 0-3 0-0 2-0 0-2
1-2 1-3 4-1 2-0 2-0 1-0 1-1 0-2 1-2 2-0
THIRD DIVISION (NORTH).
3-1
2-1 0-2 1-9 1-7 0-0 | Accrington 1-1 0-3 4-1 0-1 1-0] Crewe.. 1-2 0-2 0-1 33 3-1 Darlington 1-2 2-1 2-0 3-3 2-1 | Gateshead 4-0 1-1 2-1 1-1 3-3 Halifax
Manchester U. 2-1 4-0 1-0 3-1 2-1 Lincoln
1-1 1-1 1-1 3-2 1-0 Rotherham 2-0 0-1 0-2 0-0 0-4 Stockport (~2° {-} 0~0.1–3 1–3] Tranmere 3-4 2-0 0-2 2-1 1-2) Walsall 0-8 1-1 1-3 2-1 1-1 Wrexham 1-2 1-2 0-0 1-2 3-1 New Brighton DEN1–0 3–3] Doncaster
Bwansea Barnsley Norwich Southampton
Blackpool
Plymouth Hradford C. Newcastle Elation Sheffield 11, Notts C Stutt
West Ham
2-1 2-1 1-0 1-2 2-1 York 1-2 1-2 3-1 2-1 3-1 Chester
-23 1-3 3-1 1-3 Manfeld 4-3-3 0-1 3-1 $-1 Rochdale 8-0 3-1 2-0 2-3 0-1 Chesterfield 1-1 3-0 3-1 1-2 1-3) Southport 2-14 1-1 0-0} ('arlisle · 0-4 3-0 0-2 0-5 1–3 | Hartlepool
2-1 3-2 2-0 1-3 3-1 Barrow
3-0 1-2
6.2 07
2-2 0-1 1-0 1-1 4-5 2–0 0–5 3-2 2-1 1-0 0-0 5-3 0-0 2-0 2-4 0-350 3-1 1-0 4-2 1-1 1-2 13-04-1 2-0 3-0 1-3 4-0 4-0 2-2 2-1 0-0 0-1 0-2 23 1-1
2-3 0-1 3-0 0-0 4-0
1-1 2-2 0-1 0-0 2-1
1-1 2-0 2-0 0-2 0-2|
3-1 2-3 0-1 0-0 3-5)
0-2 0-3 0-1 4-1 1-1
3-0 0-1 4-1 1-1 2-0
0-2 1-0 2-2 0-2 0-5
2-0 0-2 4-0 2-0 3-3
2-0 1-2 2-4 3-2 3-3 0-3 0-0 - 0-2 1-7 1-3 2-2 0-1 1-1 0-2 0-1 0-0 1-4 3-4
Stoke's Important Part In London Football
Stoke has played an important the Birmingham League, was ther part in the rise of London football, frat brick In the building of the They were original members of the London stronghold as we know it. League, and even la their success-to-day.
ful daya they counted a gate of The dropping out of Stoke was 8,000 a good ono. Receipts for Tottenham Hotspur'a opportunity.| the season then amounted to about and they were elected to all thei £3,000. Now ther are ten times vacancy in the Second Division.
more.
If Hunt, the Tottenham Hotspur centre-forward had connected with the ball there would have been a goat, but at the picture revealed, Sagar, the Everton custodian got there first, and Hunt sailed gracefully through the air over the shoulders of the goalkeeper. This was an incident during A recent match at White Hart Lane.
THIRD DIV. TEAMS
STICK TO THEIR STAR PLAYERS
NOT SO READY TO TRANSFER THEM
SPLENDID POLICY OF ALOOFNESS WHICH SHOULD HELR
The big topic in football circles at the moment is the transfer of players, writes a correspondent in the Daily Mail. There is great activity behind the scenes in the Southern Section of the Third Division, and the demand :for the star men by First Division clubs is very satisfac- tory. We could not have a clearer reminder of the vast improvement in the standard of football in the Southern Section.
TO BEAT THE BOOK
HOME-
AWAY-
(By "Robin")'
Everton
Sunderland
Tottenham
Bolton
Manchester U.
Brighton
Charlton
Swindon
Crewe
Doncaster
Southport Clyde
West Bromwich Exeter
Rangers
DRAW1-
Stokė Reading Coventry
OUR FORECAST
For Saturday Programme
PERVERSION OF FACTS
ALLEGED
"VERITAS" PILLORIED. FÖR LAST WEEK'S COMMENTARY
SEQUEL TO WITHDRAWAL FROM THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE
Further correspondents have rushed to defend the action of the Young Indians in withdrawing from the criticised by Football League, which action was "Veritas" in the Telegraph last Saturday. "Verily" in letter published below contends that the Telegraph commentator mis-stated the facts in arriving at an un- fair conclusion. A letter has also been received from "Sports," publication of which is held over until to- morrow in view of the pressure on space.
A
Accompanying this letter to-morrow, "Veritas" will reply to his critics, and endeavour to justify his article of last week.
The Sports Editor,
to
tho
sver
forward any kind of warning from The Hongkong Telegraph.
the Counell or any other body of допо the Sir: The hysterical voin in which the Association, leave "Veritas colemned. Young Emergency Committee. Indians Football Club, in your Satur- How many games, in which the day's issue, for having withdrawn Young Indians took part, has "Veri- from the Second Division League ottaa"
witnessed. The writer, anly shewed his one-sided reasonings having heard the supposedly bad re but also ntade very disappointing putation of this team, made it a point reading from one on whom I had of attending some of the Young learned to rogard na an unbiased au- Indiana' games and could quote In- thority on Local football toples. His stances of where the faults lio, apparent disregard for or ignorance In the match against the Royal of the real facts that led the Young Artillery no cleaner game could have Indlans to take a step, which honestly been wished for. Why? Because both was as distasteful to them as it was teama played according to the rules the Football Association, has of football and not according to brought me to join issue with him. physical advantages.
AL I, therefore, appeal to you, in fair-
the match against the Royal mess to the Young Indians, to give Engheers, in the first fifteen minutes this as much prominence as you did no less than four foals were given "Veritas."
and these were all against the latter The folowing is the special}
The attitude adapted by the Emer for anfatr charging. Could one, Telegraph forecast for Saturday. Where teams are marked in heavy geney Committee, to say the least, is therefore, say that the Young Indiane type they are expected to win, and indeed very arbitrary. At the en-are unfit to take part in any local
quiry over the incident of the Hong-football competition? where ne such indication in given kong Football Club-Young Indiana "Veritas" emphasised that if the ja draw is anticipated.
stated that he Young Indians were dissatisfied with match, the referee actually stopped the game and wamed Emergency Committeo's decision, they hoth TEAMS for having adopted have the right to appeal to the Coun- rough and dangerous tactics and also cil of the Association. Does he know warned Mr. Baker once before he had that inst year a member of the pre- to send this player from the field of sent Emergency Committee told the play. This Sir, was most emphati Young Indians at an enquiry, when enlly denied by the Young Indians' the latter protested against, and in-
at the kall enquiry.timated representative
that they would appeal Yot, no further steps were taken by againat, this Committeo's sentenes of the Committee to verify thong state four weeks on one of its members, ments but, taking the referee's word that if "they appealed they would get as absolute teath, they (the Commit-ix weeks and not four."
FIRST DIVISION.
ASTON VILLA ❤ Chelsea
V
*
DERBY COUNTY
Grimsby Town-
EVERTON
Sheffield W West Bromich Birmingham Portsmouth
v Arsenal
HUDDERSFIELD T. Liverpoof Leiccater City SUNDERLAND TOTTENHAM
V Stoke City PRESTON 'N. E. y Blackburn B
Whampton
Manchester C. Middlesbro Leeds United
DIVISION,
West Ham Falbum
SECOND
BARNSLEY BOLTON W.
V
❤
Norwich C NOTTS F.
But I am glad to discover that cluba are not parting Bradford C. with their best men as readily as in previous years.
This
V
Burnley MANCHESTER U. ♥ Bury Notts C. Oldham Port Vale..... SHEFFIELD U. SOUTHAMPTON v SWANSHA
Iftherto it has been the policy but Coventry have steadfastly re- Big football in London really dater from this time, for although Wool of the clubs to develop their fused to listen to all offers. The change is undoubtedly due wich Arsenal were the ploneers it players with a view to transferring la true, too, of my own club.
Less successful clubs such as to the widening of interest. was not, until the lotspur were them. Experiences within the loat Motor-cars and charabanes were launched in the League that the two weeks have I think provided Clapton Orient and Torquay have parked in the streets round the interest of the public woR cap good evidence of a now determina- also so far been able to resint very ground in hundreda. Soon the tured.
tion in the clubs to keep their tempting offers for the transfer of club will have their own park to
To-day. the Stoke club are in a players. Indeed, they are ready, certain players. 1 hope and be- accommodate 400 care and 100 stronger position than ever before should it prove possible, to streng-lieve that they will be rewarded Aldershot
in the .click of the turastlies, charabance. Today Stoke draw Their fine ground, still with its then their own weaknesses. their supporters from a radius of quaint old cricket pavillon tucked away in the corner, will hold well
30 miles.
JAME..
CINZANO VERMOUTH
ALWAYS INSISTED UPON.
MELBOURNE CUP
Peter Pan Wins Classic Race
*
Melbourne, Nov. 6
CLASSIFICATION
OF PONIES.
Plymouth A. BRENTFORD Blackpool.
Newcastle U..
Bradford Hull City
THIRD DIVISION (SOUTH).
BRIGHTON Bristol R. CARDIFF C. CHARLTON A.. Crystal Palace LUTON Queen's P. R.
Santhend
SWINDON
TORQUAY
*
Reading
Bournemouth.
Y
Exeter C.
V.
Northampton T-
Y
Bristol Ci
Mulwall
· Watford'
v
COVENTRY
v. New port
▼
Gilllagher Clapton THIRD DIVISIÓN (NORTH).
Y WREXHAM
Chesterfield
Y
Rochdale
v Halifax
▼
Barrow
*
Y
Carlisie
Y
Waisa!1
- Mansfield
Lincoln C.
TRANMERE R
Hartlepools NEW BRIGHTON SOUTHPORT. York City ... Rotherham STOCKFORT C. V
SCOTTISH LEAGUE
Aberdeen
Albion Rovers;;
This policy is a sound ond
BIG TEMPTATION. It is perhaps not generally over 60,000 people, and a large
Better Nobody realises more clearly appreciated, but the development proportion are under cover.
still, they have a young team of than I how sorely tempted a Third of motor transport has been the grent promise under the guidance Division club can be when a big biggest factor in the making of the thousands of converts to the of Bob McGrory, who at his age cheque is dangled before the eyes. at plays remarkably. It was his for the transfer of a star player. birthday a fortnight ago-and-But I am convinced that many of
Accringto There is one page in the history well he must be the oldest man in the clubs are now suffering from of the Stoke club of the greatest first-class football. He is assist the effects of a polley which, in
The favorite, Sir Simper, Anished CHESTEN dienstor significance. Their
inant manager to Mr. Tom Mather, the past, has resulted in the sale fast in the Melbourne Cup classic at Crewe 1908, when they were wound up under whose control the wonderful of good players year after year and Flemington Race Course to-tiny, when DARLINGTON
Gateshead and had to make a fresh start in revival of the club has taken place, consequent loss of interest by the Peter Fan; at 14 to one, hent Sar- DONCASTER
supporters, who have given up cherie and Last Robe. hope of the club ever achieving His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester drove in state along the anything in football.
If we can only maintain the straight and was given a tremendous policy of aloofness for a season pr reception from a hundred thousand two and tet the Arsenals and the Chelseas keep their big money. then the much maligned Third Division will go on improving, And the bigger crowds that have: been attracted to matches this scason will continue to attend,
As the manager of one of the loading clubs in the Southern Sec- tion whose gates are averaging over 18,000, I may not be con sidered in a position to advise. 1 am convinced, however, that we must keep our best players if the competition is to advance. We can keep at home those spectators who now travel to see First and Second Division gámaa, nie potent
Nothing more quickly destroye the confidence and morale of a club's supporters than the depar- race goers, who were all soaked to the which lasted until turo of star players. A transfor skin from rain fee of £2,000 or £3,000 for a player Just before the start of the race.
Always the principal classic race may ease the financial burden for
in Australis, the Melbourne Cup this the time being, but the policy is a year was worth £10,000, and owing short-sighted one. It has its in- to the Centenary Celebrations at evitable repercussions in dwind: tracted more than usual Interest, ling gates.
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LATEST ALTERATIONS
AND ADDITIONS.
The Hongkong Jockey Club announces the following alterations and additions to the classification ist dated August 28.
Australian ponles:-Aus. tralian Bay to A Class; Wood- Land Stag to B Class.
China ponies:--West Parade to C-Class: Racing Luck to D Class.
Peter Pan
1
Sarcherlo
Last Robo
1
12
CLYDE
LUNDEE
Falkirk
Kamilton
ST. JOHNSTONE
RANGERS
V
+
Ayr U.
▾ CELTIC
▾ Queen's Park
HIBERNIANS ਆ Airdrieoniane
KILMARNOCK * of South
PARTICK.
St. Mirren
Dunfermling
▾ MOTHERWELL
RUGBY FOOTBALL
Club "A" XV To Meet Army Combination
The following will represent the Hongkong Football Club. "A" XV against a team drawn from the Royal Artillery and Lincolnshire Regiment on the Club Ground at G
to-dar:
Grimiths, L. G. Robertson (Capt.) G. P. Lammert: R. Goldman, R. H.
and G. B.. Jones: J." Hutchison and H. L. Tudor; R. L. Cherrill, R., G, Castleton, H. D. G. Barlow, I¡ H. Bradford, 8. H.-Garrod, D. A. Cum ning, J. T. Edkins and M. W. Scott,"
Reserved; H. R. McGljchrist, W. G. C. Knowlos,
The success of the two top clubs: There were twenty-two starter at the moment, Coventry and Charl Peter Pan won by three lengths, with ton, is a direct result of the refusal a neck soparating the second and Refores: Dr. J. A. R. Selby. of both clubs to part with their third horses. The winner's time was On Saturday, November, 10 the best players. Coventry, I feel 8 mins 10% BOCE The betting was Club "A" XV will meet the Army sure, must be tired of turning 14/1 Peter Pan: 50/1 Barcherie and A XV at Bookinpoo at. 8 p.m. The Brat Fifteens will meet. In a down offers for at least three of 25/1 Last Robe their forwards. Bourton, Lake, being fifth two furlongs from the 415 pm.
The favourite, Sir Simper, after friendly fixture on the same ground and Lauderdale have been ap-winning post, was, gradually posed AB Monday, November 18 is | proved by the bigger clubs' as like- by the remainder of the entries and Holiday there will be no Rugby prao-
ly candidates for a rise in statua: Anished, inst. Router.
| tico that evening./
tee members) took a serious view of Smarting under the sting of such a this particular incident and suspend-threat, what is the earthly use of ed Mr. Baker for two months.
appealing against the present sen-
The referee, perhaps knowing the 'tence?
alfiements
full backing he would receive from UNFORTUNATE INFLUENCE. the authorities, made
It appears rather unfortunate that which were challenged by the Young the Indian team figured in sovoral Indians. In all common fustico the
enquiry should have been adjourned matches
in
which some of its
for hit-
for further evidence to prove the truth Ponents wore brought or untruth of those statements. Batting an opponent or for ungentleman- ly conduel But this cortainly should Instead the Committee passed jud not influence the Committee against |iñent as above ami alza warned the un--
fortunate Young
Indians that the them and thus place the blame on the next time one of its members is team.
I can safely say that the methods brought up before, this Committee the
of the Young adopted by some WHOLE TEAM would be suspended Indians opponents and also the "mis- from further participation in local takes" made by some of the referees football.
should have been brought to the notice
I would like to question this Com of the Council, and had some of mittee the right and authority from the officials seon the Young Indians which assumes in making thin netion they would have found for drastic intimidation. It has, may themselves that this team of young the privilege to recommend but cer- and promising players is not as bad tainly not the right to suspend.
as reports painted it to be.
In considering the fact that one
NOT SUCH A BAD RECORD.
As one who has been connected with Kowloon player was suspended for local football both officially and un-four weeks for actually hitting an- officially for the past twenty years and other player, one Navy player was over let me assure. "Veritas" that the cautioried for hitting a Young Indian psat record of the Young Indians is player, one South China 1st, XI player hot as bad as those of some of the|for kicking an opponent was warned yresent incinbers of the Hongkong and a member of the Railway team Football Association and yot ropeti was suspended for an offence in a by game that culminated in the referee tion of ongentlemenly conduct
players from such clubs never brought } (Continued on Page 9.j ?
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