1932-06-01 — Page 7

ZIMMERN STILL IN BOX

(Continued from page 5).

His Worship: You must ans. wor?

.Zimmern: I may have talked to the members.

Mr. Brutton: One of the ex. ploita being the holding up of a gambling house with Christle and others? What?

Only Boloney.

One of the exploits was holding up a gambling houne with Christle and others? I may have said that. If that was so it must be what the Americans call boloney.

That's what we are going to say with regard to lots of things you havo naid in this case-boloney, So you are in the habit of talking boloney then?--I don't know. If I have a few drinks I don't know what I any.

So you always blame drinks for the lies if they are lies and the truth if it is the truth?--If it in the truth I speak it.

At the same interview with these gentlemen at the Club you also showed a scar on the sido of your head which you said you got in a fight In a dancing hall with sailors? -Уен.

Another thing you had said was that you had been in gaol in Shang- iral? No, no. i beg your pardon.

Mr. Brutton (to his Worship): Worship. I know he hasn't, your but that's what he said.

You tohi na you were four years.

THE

You didn't hold a job for a long time?—Yes.

Is it that your memory fails you or that you wore never in these Arme? What I say you can find out for yourself.

I have searched and I can't find your name. So you don't agree with me that it's a question of memory as to your life in Shang hai, the times, periods and so on.

You can't give the Court any better lica than that?-I gave my answers to the best of my ability.

You don't admit it's a question of memory?—I remember the best I can.

Now Christic; did you know Christie in Shanghai 7-1 havo known Christle for years.

You have known him for years, but did you know Chrintio in Shangos? And when did he come na to Hongkong, the same time you?-A few months before.

Dagger or Knife.

Did he live with you in Hong- kong 7-On different occasions.

Now do you seriously want the Court to believe that on the 18th March Chong wanted a dagger or a knife?-I can swear to that and Cheng won't dare to deny it.

And on that day he was on his way to his house?--Yes.

Insn't he got knives in his own house in Village Road? Hasn't every house got kniven ?-1 don't know. I have never been to 60. Vilinge Road.

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And if

out of you make it Chong you don't mind?-It de- pends on how you get it out of him.

The Best Plan. He looks to you like whom you might pluck?—I don't understand you.

a man

He looks to you like a man from whom you can get money?-Not at that moment.

You intended to make money out of him later? That intention came up later,

And whether you make it by blacknall or by fraudulent means as you you don't mind so long make it? I thought of the best plan I could.

And the best plan you could conceive was to delude him to be- lieve that you and Christie were

to

Fung ?--I poison prepared didn't mention poison.

Come now, is that it? I am not asking about whether you men- tioned it. Is that not what you thought-No.

I put it to you you were out to whether by black- make money mail or by fraudulent means?- My answer was "of the heat plan I could."

read

Did Christie ?- cannot Christie's mind.

Christie did make the sugges-) tion to you 7-Yes,

mnda by And the suggestion Christle was that you should make money out of Cheng?e was in-

Every house had got a knife?-terested in poison.

And it was Christie who sug- Yes I agree with you there, but that may not be the knife he want-geated poison-You.

od.

And it was your and Christie's

You still maintain that this is job to lead this fellow on and on? No, we did not try to lend him

in Shanghal. What year did you true? Yes,

go there?-Either 1927 or 1928.

But you do know that every klt-

And did you get employment|chen and house has got a knife?--I when you went to Shanghai?--1 ] won't deny that, had various employments,

"My Private Affairs,"

were

you

Where

employed? Were you there in 1927.7--Thrus are my private affairs.

All right, I am asking you ques tions of them?--I have reserve for my answer.

Ha Worship: You have got to

Answer.

Zimmern: The Arat job I went to was the Shanghai Docks,

I

Nothing to be ashamed in that is there? Was that in 1927?--It was the first jub I got in Shanghai. don't know whether that was 1927 or 1928.

How long did that Inst7--1 resigned about six months after- wards.

And then where did you go?- The Office Appliances Ltd.

How long did you hold that job? About the same length of time. So that brings us to the end of 19287-I said i did not know whe ther I had been there in 1927 or 1928.

What about 19297-I worked as a motor mechanic and then I joined Harvey Cook and Co. in 1920- may be it was 1930,

Now which was it, yott must know? You are supposed to have 11 memory you know?---May be 1930.

Movements in Shanghai.

So that during 1929 what were

doing? Anything?-I упа

been working.

had

of

Where 7- Jave just said. What about 19297-I arrived in Shanghai during the miciile the year, not the beginning.

Which was it 1927 or 19287-It was either 1927 or 1928,

Oh, come, come. You must know your life7-1 think it was 1928.

That takes us to the middle of 1929. Where were you in 1920 then- may have been out, of a job for a while.

How long were you out of a job7-May be a couple of months.

Where did you go then 7-I think

I worked in the Canidrome.

After further questions about Zimmern's employment in Shang- hai, Mr. Brutton asked: 1 sup- pose your name appears in the Directories does it or did It?--If

You also told the Court that the accused had been to the Nathan Hotel--Quite true.

With angger or without?-Ho did not tell me that.

And you still maintain that that conversation took place between you. Perhaps you don't remember it, do you? Which conversation?

When Cheng related

visit his

to the Nathan Hotel? Yes, he told me that.

Any reason why he should say that if it did not happen?--I don't know.

-

on and on.

But how were you going to get

I ha your money then 2-Well, said

that if Christle wanted Cheng to let him do the work and The roald arrange with Fung-

te

Therefore you and Christie mast

collaboration have been in gether about this phút, that yTT discussed it?----Christie told me he wanted Cheng to let him do the job and he also told me he would arrange with Fung.

A Means? When was that suggestion made by Christie to you"--Wheu went to see the Inwyer.

We

You mean to any that you and Christie did not discuss this mat- ter there and then? We could Ming-not beenuse Cheng was present.

Of course lie says he never had that conversation with you at all?

He won't dare deny it. He does deny it and Lai Tay denies it? I don't know about Lai Ming-fay.

Freedom at Station. Have you not rend the papers since7

Was that your whole object, one of making money out of Cheng? -If you like to put it in that way. It was in your interest to get Cheng interested in this poison business? No.

Mr. Lindsell rose and enquired Were you then prepared to use what it was that Lai Ming-fay | a gun?-Cheng did not ask me to denied.

do it.

usen gun.

Mr. Brutton replied that Lai Were you prepared to use a Ming-fay, in her evidence, said that gun? I don't see why I should when she saw the accused in the room he had his arms folded and whatever he had no conversation with her.

And Christie was not prepared

Yes to use a gun?

or No?-J like to think over the question (Laughter).

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Mr. Bratton repeated his ques-| tion to witness whether he had not,

Then you and Christie had de- read that particular part in the vised other means of getting newspapera.

After the money nut of Cheng? Zimmern: We were not allowed failure of the scheme of beating to read the papers on that day?

up Fung? That is not true, of the place, You and the ran

What actually was said was used the billiards room and the this after the plan had failed of

"The gymnasium.

papers were beating Fung up, Christie said: lying about the officers mess and "Give me $10,000 and I'll kill any. you dined with the officers?-body" That started

The following enbie at the close the whole of the sugar market yesterday beg your pardon. I never dined

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You didn't get a free run of the billlards room?-Permission had to be obtained before we could get

into it.

much as yours?--Yes.

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And far more, from what I far. That started the whole thing, and then Christie said he preferred poison?

And had you got permission to To the best of my recollection, use it-general permission to *use

1 don't remember Christie say. If it? No general permission. We were only allowed certain hours any body were to give him $10,-

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What about the gymnasium?— We only stayed in the gymnasium. Christie's reputation is not very

You mean during the day?--For.] good?-I don't know. Bort of morning exercises.

have lie, if Chong had people follow. Oh, known him for four or five years.ing Fung, he would have given you work in a firm for a long time. I suppose you had to see Chris-Lived with him in Shanghai and you the right floor and the right

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your name appears in the directory. tie nearly

come, come.

You

You and Christie?—Yes.

1

Now this dinner at the restaur- ant, You borrowed money to pay for, It?-Cheng gave me money to

borrowed It means that you pay for it. money from him to pay for It? No one would pay for it. room; and yet you went into the

And you sat in the place of the you not know that on some oc- made easions he was absent from the wrong room?--If I went into the boat at the dinner? Yes.

Your dinner?-Not my dinner. house in gaol?-He lived with me wrong room it was not surprising.

Is that what you ment, you asked Mr. Chung's permission for a while and with other people. for a while. When he lived with wore so drunk that you had no re-

Kood collection of what you did? to occupy the sent of the host, he rause my girl, because my girl me he had always been

could remember what I did. boy.

Then you were not drunk?-1Iwan coming too and I wanted to was happy and merry

every day?] have

If you are a resident of Shang-said previously, after I had

hai it appears in the Directory-my statement. If you are a taxpayer it appeara.

If you work for a firm your name appears under that Grni?-I sup-free?-Yes, of course. PONG BO.

I did not speak of when you were detained-while

you were

Christie was out of a job?——

So what you are trying to make Following further questions Mr.u was. He had a job in Houg-out to the Court is this then, that Brution remarked that the witness kong when I knew him.

Christie was a little innocent boy. would admit that his memory of his movements in Shanghai were very vngite, witness replying that he was giving his answers to the best of his ability.

Mr. Brutton: How ls it then if you were in all these firms your name doesn't appear in the Shang- hal directory? That I don't know. "That's My Business."

dinner? am not sure.

Where did he have a job?-le worked as a mechanic at a motor car repair shop,

Indeed, you used daily?—Yes.

Lo Hee

him

the job.

JENNO my fave, (Laughter). Chong mold it was all right. He

ner.

It was your suggestion the din- er was held at all?--I beg your pardon.

You beg my pardon, eh ?—No. It was never my suggestion. Mr.

Mr. Cheng? As a matter of fact Mr. Cheng did not want to go to that dinner?-That is not so,

Dinner was at 8. He did not turn up till 10.307

In Cheng's mind all he wanted Had he a job at the date of that like yourself; that both you and to do was to alap Fang'e free. Havo me money to pay for the din-

Christie are innocent little boys And you mean to say that becaus and the villain of the whole, he failed to slap Fung in the face in the presence of Lal Ming-fay, piece is Cheng ?-No.

Well, what are you trying to that he suddenly got so vindictive make out if that is not it?-Cheng that he was going to offer $10,000 didn't imme- your story 7-Ho You knew Cheng as a wealthy had offered Christie $10,000 to do to have Fung murdered. Is that Cheng suggested it, youngster, a wealthy mun?-I

To do the job. Was this how diately offer the $10,000.

Well, I am not asking that. knew him as a rich man,

What I am asking is that he And that was why you wanted you put it? That was put for

ward to him. Your name has never appeared to get into his service?-Through

You know what Christie's re-should get so terribly vindletive in the Directory under Harveyhia Influence. I did not want to

that he offered $10,000 to have the

Witness replied that Cheng was putation is?--I don't know. Cook and Co. and never appeared work for him: I wanted to got a

Now, it was in your interest, I man killed?-That I don't know. under Whitson's and it doen notjob through him.

Well, I put it to you that it was that night being held up by a put it to you, to get Cheng Inter- appear, as far as I can see, in the Canidrome or other places? You from him?-No.

You did not want to get a job estou in this poison plot-other- absolutely improper and that the weakness for snooker at the Club wiso you don't get the $10,000 you suggestion came from you and and was losing money, and that were rather a rolling stone?-If

But when he offered you a job know. We found out later there Christio. In fact you said Chris-he (witness) then rang him up to you like that,

tle gave you a wink. You were ascertain whether the function were other people interested, So that you never held a job for you did not refuse it?-No.

And you jumped at it?-Half a

Don't make rash atatements and startled?-I was startled. I did was to be proceeded, with or to be postponed, as it was entirely de- any longth of time?-That's my ronf is better than none. businces.

You did not know it?. You falt ponded on Cheng's willingness to I take it that a man of your ex-statements which are absolutely not know what was in his mind. untrue-Ask Chong himself if he

bear the expense.

Answer the question. That's my perience should be satisfied with ldn't say he had other people it when lie winked 7-There must

business.

Never mind, answer my ques tion-That's my business.

His Worship: Answer the ques tionl

Zimmern: Yes.

Mr. Brutton: Yos what? That you had held a job for long time No.

$40 a month, provided you were given board or lodging or what over it was? You were satisfied with that?-I think that when you are out of a job you should bo protiy antisfied.

If

Wore you satisfied?-I am. there is a good chance of making money I should not mind.

following Fung.... –

Happy and Merry, Didn't you know the number of Fung's room when you visited the Hotel Nathan that night?--I had said that I got the wrong room.

If Chong had people following this Fung, which is an absoluto

be some meaning to that wink.

You jumped at the chance of making money by falling in with Christie's suggestion?—I did not suggest poison.

After witness had been fur- ther questioned regarding his re- collection of the interior ar rangements of the Kwong Hol Keo firm at Queen's Road Contral, to which he said he and Chong ro paired on the night of the mur Im-der, the hearing was adjourned because you

until to-morrow afternoon,,

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