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LOCAL COAL FIRM'S' DEFENCE.

TELEGRAPH, SATURDAY, JULY 25, 1931.

OLD CERTIFICATES.

pearing for the Crown), Mr. Doveyfere making an analysis?-in recapitulated the various coals con- most cases I should see the letter.. cerned in the case, stating that The clerk shows me the letter when Malayan-Bornen obviously caine anything is unusual. In the or from Sandakan, where he believed.diunry way the letter comes to the there was a mine in the neighbour office with the sample; the sample Lood. "Akaki Lump, "Ohnoura," is sent to the man, wie mulyses "Karntsu", "Myino", and "waye" it and he then sends the results the office and I issue the white back from Japan. "Deshigarph" как н well-known certificate. The letter remains in product from India.

Then in the ordinary case, the letter accompanying the samplo dona not go to the Analyst Quite. May I take it that that is almont invariably the case-You can say It has been in three-quarters of

a!)

came

of the

the offer,

That the old certifienfes had

Witness proceeded to give tho served as specifications, that the

one grade sending in of apecifications in that specifications for form along with coal tenders had "Deshigarph," as set out by been a long-standing practice, and Indian Conl Grading Board, when that they could not have deceived Mr. Jenkin asked where the im- any Government Department on portaines came in of sech a specifica- the cases.

tion. account of the dates of issue

were

Mr. Fitzroy: The importance points

stated plainly vented yesterday of that evidence Is when it comes to

in the defence

1

in a series of questions put to the the question of people who expect Government Analyst (Mr. P. R. Deshigarph getting, what they ex- kin, Feet

Davey by Mr. F. C. Jenkin,

appearing

charged with certificates.

uttering

- Description Immaterial,

In other words, the nante scribing the coal is, from the Analyst's point of view, material? Quite.

im-

Did you make that Analysis?--1 didn't.

Why made it--Mr. David Loie. You still have that form with YOU (the form showing the samples and setting out the results of the be) Who is responsible for that particular form?--Myself, I drafted it.

Counsel

for two Mr. Jenkin (eruss-examining) Chinese connected with the Li That is Japanese coal which you

Company who Hing Coal

Akaki, Karnisu, ace have mentioned: forged Iwaye, Myiso, and Ohanura: Are they all Japanese coals and all from Dir. Juhu Lee, clerk at the Gov-the same part of Japan? The ernment Laboratory, recalled, pro-Rualyses of coal from all these four dneca certain letters and docu-basins, one might expect, should ments required by the defence, approximately the same?

Witness: Approximately the He said that all certificates issued

How many years ago?-18 years against samples received, were same. Myino and Akuki are on the

As far as I can remember, it marked "original," "duplicate" and same coal-fteld. twaye is not far.

Is the same thing that was used be- fure that period.

Mr. Jenkin: What I am going

Our picture shown F. K. She iolds (U.S.A.) in the match in which he best H. W. Austin (Great Britain) after a long struggle Austin reached match point in the fourth set but failed to force the win-Tines cagright)

Lo put to you is this that as an analysis, this form, by the practice of your Department and other Des partments which I shall come to: later, bas entirely st That de- finition and become something else. The object of this form originally,

in any event, was to certify the analysis on coal recently received and analysed: I put it to was the original object? You

that

We have it from your clerk, the second witness, that, on application. eoples of the analysis will be issued at any time afterwards in triplirate

om payment of a fee of $2. Do you agree with that?--Yrs.

NOTE

years afterwards?----Yes. la that also known to Govern- ment? I don't know.

Is it known outside of your De- partment? think Ꭶ . It is a

Fare verurrence.

Well. it ix not so rare as you will

find

when 1 give you plenty of in- stances. This copy is signed by you or by another responsible officer: --Myself.

Has it ever occurred to you as to what purposes such copies might be put-It has

Amongst other uses one would be that they might be used as specifica- tious?

Only for Description.

Counsel explained that what he not by specifications was that the certificates were attached to tenders for the purpose of serving as a description of the cost which was being fendered. Taking as an instance a tender dated May 15, 1931, for the supply of coni to the Kowloon-Canton Railway. Consci said that to that tender were at- tached three analyses, the most, re- cent of which was two-and-a-half years old. They referred to coal which had been received in the Andy it's Department two-and-a- Balf "tripliente". Al

issued distant as far as I know, there is copies

years before, at the earliest. Counsel: 1 put la you that it thereafter on the application of the and much coal-mining at Karatsu,

were marked veidien is an exporting port.

is obvious that these analyses were thefendant Company

there to serve the purposes of Description Omitted. Mr. Jenkin I asked you yester-

Just take in your hand Certificat specifications-They are obsolete.

Do you isque

se obsolete certificates? day lo produce for my examination Some record of applications for 2124, 1 just remind you that Certificates of coal threes

years ago copies. Have you got that?-Wit-that analysis was issued by your

which cannot possibly have ness: No. They cannot be found. Department in reply to samples der less-Well, they refer to

seribed as Mying? That is 2o. I have looked for them.

in his present possession. it not evident that in the Kow Yesterday you told the learned! Magistrate that

Hon-Canton Railway tender, it when copies of

Not all the four coals just men- | served not, as an analysis for conf analyses were sent out the copies were exact copies; that the dates tioned might be expected le cone which you had just looked at and were the same? And you also said up to the analysis? I would not analysed, but as an undertaking or come tip) to specification that the Company was that it was the invariable practice? expect them to

#gures of that certificate.

prepared to supply coul of that (Continued'vn Page 15,)

as such.

Yes.

But which description is omitted from the certificate?--Quite.

was

Shown a copy and asked for his i The certificate is an analysis of opinion if the date on it was a Myine coul?-Yes; of what forgery, witness replied that that said to be Myino cual particular copy was not issued by You know what it is if it is not him, but by somebody else in the Myian? Do you know what that office.

know who that coal was, Sir-No reply. Je did n somebody else was.

Did you at the time think it was You say you cannot find the re-Welsh steam?) did not. cord for applleations for coples: Did you at the time have doubt where do you keep your records to- that it was Myio coal?--No reply. day of applications for copies ?---- That is on the applications file.

Mr. Jenkin: And I asked you to produce that le for me.

Approximate Grades,

Mr. E. R. Dovey, Government Analyst, was also recniled. In re- ply to Mr. Somerset Fitzroy (up

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