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GOLF CLUB VOTE

OPPOSED.

MR. BRAGA RAISES MATTER OF PRINCIPLE.

PUBLIC RIGHTS.

On á vote of $8,324 for, the resumption of land by the Govern. ment at Fanling, in arrangement with the Royal Hongkong Golf Club, the Hon. Mr. J. P. Braga, at a meeting of the Finance Copimit. tee of the Legislative Council held yesterday afternoon, raised what hr deserthed a matter of "important principle.”

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interests of the public than in the interest of the limited numbers of the Finance Committee. One point I should like to get clear is this. "Aro there privileges, of which you speak, inherent in the. Golf Club na “Golf Club? In which case the tenure of the land, which is nominaliyʻone year and which has to be renewed on the expiration of each year in general practice, as in the case of many older sporting institutions in the Colony which are very admirably run, may be considered in be held in perpetuity upon the payment of this nominai rental to the Government at the end of onel year.

The Chairman:I do not think it I think it is a regular is nominal. Crown rent; i I understand it, it is the ordinary Crown rent which any. body would pay.

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Hon. Mr. Crenny:-It is not lenard with a building covetrant; it is on un annual premium,

The Chairman:- do not think anybody would take it for building on an annual tenire.

Iton. Mr. Braga.-If that bo then I take it there are, or, should be, certain building covenants attach- ing to the lense with the Golf Club. In addressing the Committee on the Is there any such bullding covenant? vote, the Hen. Mr. Braga anid.--It The Chairman-I cannot answer | seems that there is л important that question off-hand, Mr. Braga. principle involved in thin item.Tub land is rural land. Perhaps Mr. There may be, and perhaps there are,

Grenky en tell us. very good reasons why this Committee should be asked to vote the sum of $8,324. So far as 1 can make out from the explanations necompanying this item, it looks very much as it the Government is making a loan of 58,324 to the Royal Hongkong Golf Club. Why this should be so we are mut Lald in the printed explanation, which is more or less obscure, attached to the water. What I would like to know Is

As A mniter of principle will the Government afford aimilar arcommodation to other clubs in the Colony for facilities which, apparently, have been granted to the Golf Club? I have no com- plaint against this Club n' club: but I would like to paint out that it is un exclusive club, the membership which is composed, for the most part, of people in the Colony well able to afford to provide themselves with all necessary amenities for recreational purposes and who are in circumstances eñalding them to luck After their own affairs without the putlary

of the ratepayers. Speaking for myself, I think the Government, la creating a

precedent

which will age it very diffealt for The Finance Committee of the Leg

tive Council

with porfat

ぐい得の

sirioney to refise applications from aputing club in the Colony wins Lapislame of a lika nature from the Government in future,

Low Rate of Interest.

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Then, again, there is this question of interest. I see that the gate of interest the Gulf Cub is rated upon to pay in 4% per annutra. We ar aked practically tanke a gift to this wealthy cluir of 1% per annum 38324. I arrive at the difference of 1 in this way. The Govern ment pays on its Public Works Lan per annum to the bondholders, I Teceives utter the proposed with the Golf Club Arrangement 44 from them. The Government Is, therefore, east of pocket on this Joan 1% per annum which rate payers who are non-members of the Golf Club, and therefore precluded from enjoying its privileges, are! called upon to pay for the Golf Club.

I have stuted, For the reasons

unless some cogent explanation be

forthcoming. I shall not be able to support the vote.

Public Rights. Hon. Mr. Braga:--In other werde The inherency of the privileges Club attaching to Hongkong Golf could not be made effective in the case of trespass by any member of the public who is not a member of the Golf Club. Supposing a resident of Hongkong, who does not happen to bo member of the Golf Club, tresn passes on the grounds of the Golf Club, would that member of the public be entitled to cross the Kron which are, nominally, so leent to the Golf Club, or would he be prosecuted before a Magistrate for Leespass?

The Chairman: am not prepared to answer that question or any legal

conundrums.

protected.

1931.

FANLING GOLF..

STARTING TIMES FOR SUNDAY.

9.20 K. K. Rounds & W. C. Haley. 9.24 A. G. Coppin & W. A. Butter-

'fluid.

E. D. ANDREWS SUFFERS DEFEAT.

HONGKONG CHAMPION HAS EASY, WIN.

"

E. D. Andrewa yesterday afford-

9.28 J. 11. B. Lep & Q. A. A. Mac-ed C, A. L. Rumjahn one of the

fadyen. 9.32.1. G. Allison & A. J. IL. WokY.

Fgreatest successes in his tennis

9.36 D. F. C. Cleton & 1. C. ghet. career, when the local champion 9.40 J., R. Collls & V. R. Gordon. defeated the prominent visitor 9.44 T, Low & N. K. Idttlejohn.

9.48 Condr, Priestley & J. 3. French. by two straight sets in an exhibi- 9.52 A. H. Ferguson & E. Dtion singles match, which

keenly followed by a large gallery,

Matthews

0.56 W. N. Buyers & D. S. Robbe.

xon.

Was

10,00 R. R. Davies & H. 8. W, Pater | including II.E. the Governor and Mr. G. W. A. Tuften (Private) Secretary),

10.04 J. M. Walker & T. S. Whyte-

Smith. 10.08 E J. Price & R. II. Dowler. 10,12 C. U. Shank & S. C. Feltham. 10.10 H. S. V. Morsap & P. Young. 10,20 A. C. I. Bawker & F. Syme

Thomson,

Andrews was shockingly off form, and was amazingly at faili in his ground strokes, which were badly timed and executed. On 10.24 E. Stan & J. Coulthari.

the other hand, Rumjahu, unaffeet- 10.28 A. M. Parker & C. Myrock.

d by the reputation is opponent 10.32 D. Forbes & D. J. Gilmore,

held in the tennis world, settled 19.38 J. W, Shewan & F. J. Munro. 10.40 0. Eager & A. D. Humphreys. down to give in exemplary dis- 10.14 11. R. fenington & A. H. Penn.piny of cool and well-calculated 10,48 1, Pike & 8. J. 11. Fox.

tennis.

His ground strokes were 10.2. Thayer & R. C. Law,

meticulous in thele accuracy, and RK BOON As he had discovered 10.56 A. Lench & W. C. Shields.

Andrew's weakness, he went 109 R. W. Taplin & J. B. Lanyon. 1.4 P. Sykes & W. J. Rickford.

boldly to the attack, and for the 1108 F. J. Dowley & G. W. Gurrett. 11.12 6. B. Lane & L. C. Grover. 11.16 11. G. Williams & ti. Coulon 11.20 A. Reid & J. F. Richardson. 11.24 W. R. Vallance & G. R. M.

Robertron.

Hon. Mr. Braga. I have explained myself as fully as I could,

Hon. Mr. Shenton.-There are cer- bain rights of way over the Golf Club property which have never been in terfered with and those rights of way will not be interfered with now.

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From the spectators' point of 5;:༤ it was disappointing, but Kumjaha has every reason to be Batisfied, for even if he had lost, he would not have been disgraced.

Andrews was a different man in the doubles contest which follow- Hon. Mr. Kotewall- I

present the ed, and delighted those Bec resumption was made for the proper with a dazzling display of net and

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الوعرة

Golf Club

of

The Chairman.-The They have spent enormous KUMA money. I have given Mr. Bingo n full a stufement of the facts s ran. In the first place I do nul regard the rent an nominal and regard the Government as getting n the money ex- distinct return for

Hon. Mr. Braga: —It is not such a conundrum as I appeurs. I s 13 very practical paint beemase, if the Golf Club hou Gavernsent assistance should like to see the interests and rigs of the public at large fully If member of the public were to trespass on the grounds of the Golf Club and were tå” be hauled hefurea Magistrate, then I say that this vote is all wrong, and that wo jehoaht not be enfled upon to pay this

sum of $5,000 to the Golf Club or any Club. I think we have had a revent cane in the Court for trespas on land nominally held by a particular Chub which has been considered * pended. trespans in the legal sense, I may

Hon. Mr. Mackie.-I do not regant be wrong, but that is my view of the position, and if the inherent right it as nominal, for I see that the Gov of the Golf Club excludes a member ernment is to receive $1,627 out of of the public, I must emphatically the vote of $8,324. way, though i regret it, that I cannot want to vote for this amount. I make it clear that my remarks are Lag directed against the Golf Club, but on general principles.

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'On the Chairman putting the mat. ter to the wate, seven Yated in favour and one (Hon. Mr. Braga), against.

Pecuniary Interest,

The full results of the malches played ware:

C. A. L. Ruajalin beat E. D. An- drews, 6-2, 6-1.

C. A. L. Rumjaha beat M, W. Lo. 6-2.

E. D. Andrews and A. 1.. Sullivan v. 8. A. and H. D. Rumjahn, 10-8, 5-7.

DANUBE SHIPPING.

SOVIET GOVERNMENT WINS CASE.

ex-

Great disappointment is

Bucharest pressed in

over the of the International judgment Danube Commission under which sak: Rumania is compelled to permit the transshipment of Russian goods through Rumanian harboura, For several months tumania has been restating "dumping" of grain and oil by Russia in its own and the other countries Danube busin.

of the

Hon. Mr. Paterson-The benefit in

Hon. Mr. Beaga then raised a point largely on the side of the Government of order under sub-clause 7 of Stand- is it not? The proportion is not ing Order No. 24. He the Golf Club's but the Government's? would like to say a few words on a The Chairman, am not quite rusint of order. It may appear ware. It originated many years ago. strictly theoretical. Nevertheless, I Hon. Mr. Braga.-Whether I was feel that the point should be raised, the Government or the Golf Club, II refer in the voting on this question,

we are depriving the publie of Under Article 24, clauso 7. of the their rights. The public has a pri Standing Orders of the Legislative inherent right to cross the Golf Club's Counell a member shall not vote on

The Russians, however, evaded Reciprneni Advantages.

ground and I think the public is any subjeel in which he has a direct The Chairman:-1 um ufraid, Mr. entitled to fall protection, unless i pecuniary interest." I would not go the transshipment prohibition by sums far as to say that the voting has shipping in foreign bottoms. The Braga, that I canna pledge the is that the Golf Club pay

been influenced by the "pecuniary tanker Melonin carrying Russian future merubers at the Finance Com-summensurate with its rights.

interest" of any member of this Com- oil, which was held-up by Rumania mittee as to what assistance tlwy

The Club's Rights."

mittee. Nothing further than that is for two months in the harbour af may be prepared to give to any other

Hon. Mr. Paterson-It seems to

from my mind. On principle, how Suling, was club The only question before us

the today is whether or not the Finance me the Golf Club is paying annual

ever, I feel I must challenge the votes Commillee is prepared to approve Crown rent, and that, therefore, they the vote of thin particular sum to have full rights to o exactly as the this particular club. Any future like, and members of the public, not request from any other club would being members of the Gulf Club, have have to be decided on its merits. no right on it,

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Now, as regards this particular The Chairman do not quite item, the principle involved is thai understand what right, Mr. Braga, the Golf Club has purchased certain you would give to the publie on land avens of land. It proposes to hand leased to a private person; I do not these back to the Government on quite understand what right you receiving the amount of money which would like to reserve to the public as they paid to purchase them. The to trespass in land leased to a private advantage which the Government party.

LTH.

sailing under

of at least those members of this Italian flag.

On the intervention of the Rus- Committee who are members of the Golf Club, and whose interest, theresian Foreign Commissur the In- fore, in the question before the Com-ternational Danube Commission mittee in a "direct" one. 1, therefore, declared the river "international," respectfully submit to you, Sir, that opening the way for Czechoslovak the votes of those members of this Committee who are members of the importers to transfer oil from the Italian tanker to their own light- Golf Club should not be counted.

The decision. it is bellevurl. Hon. Mr. Paterson.-May I reply marks the beginning of a very to that by reminding. Ifonourable Ively trafle in Russian goods Members of the occasion when the through Rumanian waters to the vote was given on the report of the Danube basin.

to Reemp to Salaries' Commission. I

me, Mr. Braga, that there VAH 4 ■ direct pecuniary Interest here, yet people were allowed to vote. I see no reason why I should not be able to vote on this. There was a much greater and more direct financial interest there,

The Chairman. We are not help- ing the Golf Club, but getting some thing in return. We are definitely acquiring hand.

Hon. Mr. Braga-It may seem n very fine point, but it would be nice to have decision on It. There is nothing personal in this. I think you appreciate that.

LOCAL YACHTING.

RESÜLTS OF YESTERDAY'S MID-WEEK RACES.

which

gets in this; it leases that land to the Hon. Mr. Braga.I say the Govern- Golf Club on an annual tenancy soment is quite within its rights that the Golf Club gives up very lease any land, because there is 4 considerable rights in return for get certain amount of revenue derived ting an annual tenancy from the from the leasing of Crown lands and Crewu. Another advantage to the assessment, but why should we be Crown in that it enables the whole of called upon to help the Golf Club7 the Golf Club area to be dealt with' as one complete whole, subject to one or two very minor items of land. Instead of having various items of

flon. Mr. Braga-Which you are private land included in the perimeter

Club on of the Golf Club. In return for these landing back, to the Golf advantages to the Government and nominal rental.

The Chairman-It is not nominal, fion. Mr. Paterson.-I realise that. disadvantages to the Golf Club, the Government did not think it was in-It is ordinary Crown rent.

The Chairman, in giving his ruling. (P). Kowloon Rock (P), Mark on equitable to charge them only four Hon. Mr. Brage. If it la nominal said.1 would rule in this case that Line (S). Rumsey Shoal (S), a dis

The results were as follow: and a half per cent, on the amount Crown rent you vast the Golf Club the vote taken in nut to the interest tance of 4 miles.

the privileges and those of the members voting, that of money pald by the Government to with certain the Golf Club.

privileges cannot be acquired by the interent not direct and pecuniary Why Wondert Golf Club to the exclusion of the within the meaning of sub-clause 7 Pluckel

of Standing Order No. 21 and the hour public at largs.

Speedwell votes ATC therefore

to Daphne allowed

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Hon. Mr. Braga.-I appreciate the explanation and am thankful for such п full explanation.". In fact. my questions were directed more in the

The Chairman. Your point is not very clearly made.

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