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COUNSEL DENIES

BLUFF,

Shortly afterwards ho stated "neither you (Mr. Potter) nor your refrigerating engineer, know what you are, talking about or else you are purposely trying to CANNOT BE DONE IN BRITISH mislead with my calculations. No

COURT.

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THE HOTEL CASE.

Several sharp passages passed between Mr. Eldon Potter, K.C., and Mr. Hacker yesterday, on the resumption of the action brought by Messrs. Anderson, Meyer and Co., Ltd., against the Hongkong and Shanghai Hotels Ltd, from whom they are claiming $25,000 as balance due for work done and materials supplied for the instal lation of a refrigerating plant at the Peninsula Hotel.

experienced refrigerating en- gineer would sit there and advise you of anything like that.".

Mr. Potter: That is a fair ans- wer. I don't object to it at all.

Mr. Hacker:-I can tell, you things, but possibly you understand them.

won't

but

Mr. Potter:-Quite likely, let us try and be, friends, Mr. Hacker. It a matter like this I'm not sure that counsel isn't in a stronger position than a witness,

Mr. Potter put it to witness that in making his calculations he had entirely departed from a table he said he had worked upon, but this witness denied, saying that a re- frigerating engineer.must use his own judgment,

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Mr. Potter: Yes, it does, Mr. Hacker.,,

Some amusement was created in Court a few minutes later when Mr. Potter asked witness if he could inspect document No. 16, which was an official paper be- longing to witness, and Mr. Har ker replied that he was not going to show Mr. Potter the outside of it, as it was his discount sheet!

Referring to the figures relating to the service and transmission through cork losses, Mr. Potter asked: You agree with me that the 34 per cent service loss in loss incurred through people going in and out of the room, lighting lights and so forth ?—Yes.

Now, what I am putting to you is this. Never mind what trans- mission loss through cork is in- curred, because surely a man does hot incur any more or less ser-

vice less by going in and out of a room with either. four or six inch walls? The service loss is sure- ly the same?—Yes.

Why do you reduce the service loss as well as the transmission loss? We don't, but you would if you adhered rigidly to percent- of age.

Mr. Hacker replied that appear ed to be exactly what he had, said. He added he did not think

A Disfigured Figure. it meant that the percentage was. to be added to the cork trans- In the afternoon, Mr. Potter put mission alone but to the result, a series of questions to witness with everything taken into consl regarding the table on which he deration. He added" "You are worked out his figures for the trying to make his Honour believe. losses through transmission this authority states that amount cork and of service loss. should be added to the cork, He asked: In this blue paper, formula, whereas it clearly states we have given the thickness of the it is to be added to this formula wall, which I rather gather is of resistance."

four inches, that is of cork?-Yes. four inches.

No Bluff.

Mr. Potter: It is no use my trying to make his Lordship be lieve anything that is not correct. because he has a book to look at for himself. You seem to be under the delusion that in a Bri- tish Court of Justice the method is to try and bluff the Court and bluff witness. We do not do it,. so get that out of your head.

Mr. Hacker:--- cannot,

Mr. Potter. Why didn't you read him the formula? ·

Mr. Potter:-I suggest you ask your own counsel how cases are conducted.

Mr. Potter continued that the authority himself contemplated the position he (counsel) waa going to put to Mr. Hacker. He did not mean in the case of a simple piece of cork because he thought that was where they dis- agreed. His point was that when one built cork into a wall for a refrigerator, necessarily there arose certain elements which had consi- to be given most serious deration because of the trana- mission heat. The point was that Mr. Hacker had taken nothing but a simple laboratory test for his, calculations.

I see the heat transmission through these walls is put down as three B.T.U.'s in 24 hours. Now if this is correct, it gives as precisely two for 6 inches, which was the very point we made this morning?-I can't make this figure out at all. I don't know if it is a two or a three.

It is not a "2" Mr. Hacker, be- cause I can see the tail of it going round.

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A Working Basis. Then where do you get your basis from 7-Let us take a per- 22 degree rOOM. centage for a Take nine per cent of the door loss which amounts to .0744 tons of refrigerating, and that mul- tiplied by 288,000 will give the B.T.U. losses contemplated in that table, which is equal to nine per

cent.

Mr. Potter:-That is quite clear. It is 21,150 B.T.U.S.

Mr. Hacker:-In this case you have much more heat entering the door than in the ordinary case, un account of the humidity of the. atmosphere. Owing to the very Mr. Hacker:-It looks though a "" has been written moist heat, there is no other place on this earth where the losses over a 3."

would be so much more through reason of an open door.

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Mr. Potter:-Assuming that it is a three, then it agrees in a very striking way with tho exact calculations we put to you, this morning. Let us assume for the sake of argument and if we are wrong I promise we will correct it to-morrow morning.

Mr. Hacker: I can't make out the figure.

Mr. Potter: One would have thought you would have known the yours, otherwise it throws whole calculation out of order.

Mr..Hacker:-I know it does, Mr. Potter:-But if it is three B.T.U.s for four inches, then for six inches of cork, there, will be Counsel's Reproof.

a loss of two BT.U.S. How do you reconcile that? It fits en- Counsel continued, "Whether tirely with our position?-No, it you are right or wrong is a mat-does not. I will answer that. We ter for his Lordship and I am now will submit evidence that the gen- putting my case to you. I beg of eral practice just as I stated. you, whether you agree with me You are not going to depart or not, at least give me credit for from your own document?—I being honest about it. I am go-can't read it as two or three. ing to set out a case which I am going to prove. It is not a case of trying to trap you or bluff you. It cannot be done and if you will adopt that mental attitude we will get along much quicker. Disagree with me as much as you like, but give me credit for being honest."

Mr. Hacker explained to his Lordship his point was that the authority did not suggest adding 25 to 36 per cent to the cork only as a margin of safety, but to the complete formula with all ele ments considered.

Mr. Potter said he was going to put to witness certain elements which seriously. affected trans mission of heat and referred wit-

ness to the thin layer of asphalt between each layer of cork.

Mr. Hacker:-Are you suggest ing that that will increase the transmission of heat?

Mr. Potter:-Yes.

Ridiculous Assertion.

not.

scientific

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Mr. Potter: Happily or uh- happily, have you worked on any

principle? This where an engineer has to use his judgment, based on his experi-

ences.

Though surely the service loss will remain just the same. Why reduce the service loss because you reduce the transmission loss- through cork?--It is for frigerating engineer to use judgment.

a re- his

Then there is really no relation between the service losa and the transmission loss through cork? You use your judgment from your personal knowledge of local con- ditions 7-Yes.

Mr.

Witness Disagrees. Mr. Potter went on to deal with loss of heat through cork and in this connexion referred to Parker's 1927 proposals. Mr. Hacker said that he agreed with what Mr. Parker stated In general What do you think it is?-1 but he did not agree with regard have no idea. It is possibly a to the Peninsula Hotel plant. mistake in putting it down. They Firstly, because of the representa- would not use eiher two or three. tions by Mr. Brearley, that the The thing is a mistake and I plant was going to be economical- would not pay any attention to it.ly worked by the doors being "Really! Though if it is three, it opened only once a day, and be agrees with our document? Do cause frost was to be kept off the you mean to tell me you don't pay coils. Witness added that in mak- that ing his calculations be took all any attention to that, but you would go by someone else? those matters into consideration, Yes, because I know it is a mis- as well as the humidity, in the

take.

case of every room.

In working out the surface loss of heat he said he used his own judgment as well as consulting

It is a strange mistake, because it happens to agree with Moyer and Fitzz! If your Carpendale blue paper is three inches, then tables.

it will agree. with Moyer and He said that Mr. Brearley told Fitzz?—Yes.

him the rooms were going to be

Have you read this descriptive used for nothing but frozen mut- matter of the working in the blueton and witness agreed he had slip? Yes, occasionally, but very stated that the mutton should not seldom.

be at a higher temperature than 15 degrees when taken into the cold rooms. He was also told by meat that the Mr. Brearley would be about 15 degrees on arrival.

His Lordship, after inspecting the figure on the blue slip through a magnifying glass, said it looked to him like a figure 3.

"Cooked Book.

Mr. Hacker:---Certainly Asphalt does not increase the transmission of heat. Your as- Mr. Potter:-It might be a mis- sertion is ridiculous and is not in take as you say, but if so it is. agreement with any of the au-

curious as it corresponds with our thorities. Any material offers re-

book, which you say is "cooked." Mr. Hacker:-I say if it is a sistance, even steel. It does not increase conductivity of heat. # it is a mistake.

Witness said that he made an allowance. for nails, but while on this point he remarked "the trou- ble is, Mr. Potter, stand refrigeration, don't under

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Mr. Potter: Just as our friend -our friend, not yours Mr. Hac- ker-has made a mistake!

Mr. Hacker:--It looks like a three.

Mr. Potter: Mr. Brearley has an awful lot to answer for in that case. It will be put to you that that is not true.

Mr. Hacker: There seems to be a lot of discrepancies.

Mr. Potter: There are, Indeed, and they get more and more.

Temperature of Ment.

When asked how the meat could. be taken into the rooms at 15 (Continued on Page 12.)

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