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THE HONGKONG TELEGRAPH, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 11, 1930.

FLUSH SYSTEM DERATED.

PROBLEM OF OLD PROPERTY RAISED.

MEDICAL FEARS.

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The Official View,"

has to be employed, flushing two evils. I sincerely hope that would not be practicable. Tap in the no distant future, Hong- water at the present at least has kong will be universally provid to be conserved for a more use ed with a flush system. ful purpose; hence I am stressing the necessity of providing some adequate and independent supply

Hon. Mr. H. T. Creasy said: of water, this proviso not to ex- The Building Authority can only tend to the Peak District.

issue an order for the demolition Where the manner of construc-of a building if it is in a danger- tion is concerned and also thatous condition. of upkeep, the matter is one for In the case of old buildings (on. The substitution of the present experts; and I suggest that the lots purchased prior to 1903) crude bucket system of removing existing regulations, no doubt which do not comply with the night soil by the more modern drawn up on expert advice, should requirements of section 180 of the method of water closets, was continue to be observed:

Public Health and Buildings Or- advocated by Mr. Wong Kwong-

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space, improvements cannot be the Sanitary Board yesterday afternoon. After considerable There is no denying that the insisted upon until rebuilding is discussion, an amendment that water carriage system is decided undertaken. To permit modern the Board retain full discretionly. superior to that of the present before they comply with modern sanitary fittings in old buildings in granting the applications, was bucket system, particularly when accepted.

epidemics of typhoid and cholera requirements with regard to light. are rife, and unless some strong and air is only prolonging the life convincing argument against its of such insanitary buildings. use is forthcoming, it must be admitted that the water carriage system ought to be universally encouraged. The sincerity of the Board has been called in ques- tion and deliberations are being closely watched:-

Those present at the meeting were Mr. G. R. Sayer (Chairman), the Hon. Mr. H, T. Creasy (Direct or of Public Works), the Hon. Dr. A. R. Wellington (Director of Medical and Sanitary Services), Dr. W. V. M. Koch, Messrs. Wong Kwang-tin, M.K. Lo, T. N. Chau, F. C. Hall and J. Watson (secre- tary).

It is hoped that now that more new houses are available for ne commodation, at no distant date, all owners of old property will take the opportunity of improv ing their property so as to make all such houses comply with It has been expressed by the modern open space requirements. The Chairman laid on the table Hongkong Telegraph that the im It is not possible at present to a letter from the Government repression given is "that the Sanit- insist on all buildings being fitted lative to the appointment of Mr. ary Authorities are setting their with the water flush system owing F. C. Hall to be a member of the faces against any marked change to the inadequacy of the water Board, vice Lieut. Col. C. D. Myles, for the better," and the China Mail supply. very encouragement is, O.B.E., R.A.M.C.

has declared that what is want however, given to applications for ed is "Concrete evidence that water closets to all new houses the Sanitary Board is really sanit- and all existing buildings, which arily-minded; that it is truly decomply with the open space re sirous of eliminating in time the quirements under section 179 of dry closet evils," and the Wa Kis the Public Health and Buildings Fat Po declares "that infectious Ordinance where an adequate and and contagious diseases are likely independent water supply is ob to spread when receptacles are tainable. placed in kitchens where food for human consumption is prepared."

Mr. Wong's Motion. Mr. Wong Kwong-tin, pursuant to notice, moved:

That this Board regrets the necessity for the continuance of the present crude bucket system of removing night-soil and recom- mends that application for water closets be sanctioned on the fol- lowing conditions being observed. have () If premises affected

not been ordered by the to be Building Authority demolished.

Perhaps many members of the Board are not quite conversant with the manner of living of most of the Colony's inhabitants and how the bucket system affects them. () If there shall be (other It is not uncommon to find re- then in the Peak District)ceptacles under beds and in kit-

(f) If the applicant undertakes to comply with the existing regulations as to the man- ner of construction and maintenance."

"A Retrograde Step."

cast

All applicants must of neces- sity comply with the regulations as to the manner of construction.

The particular

which would appear to have led to Mr. Wong Kwong-tin's resolution is the application for W. Cs, to "be installed at No. 182 Queen's Road

To per-

an independent and ad- chens close to where food is be in which case the rooms of the the equate supply of water for ing prepared. In the typhoon sea-house are 60 ft. deep and the purpose.

son, when shutters are closed and open air space provided is only when there is never greater need one-eleventh instead of one third for buckets to be emptied, this of the built over area. antiquated system makes ita petuate and prolong the life of faults all the more apparent. such a building by allowing a without going further into detail. W. C. installation before other I will only add that apart from more important improvements are noxious gases, flies and possible carried out is a retrograde step it is my object to obtain from the sources of contamination, the that no Sanitary Board should en- Board some definite ruling as re-nightly opening of the front door courage.

He said: In moving this motion,

gards the policy to be adopted to admit some evil-smelling In-| I would suggest that if the towards applications for erecting | truder fouling the atmosphere and water closets, particularly where earing little for the peace of the Board wishes to pass any resolu- Chinese tenement houses are con- household is an experience, few tion with regard to water closet cerned. It seems that the matter members of this Board will relish, installations it should make it has been left entirely in the hands It is indeed a sad reflection to quite clear that property owners of a few members who constitute find that such a backward state of applying for such installationa the Water Closet Sub-Committee; affairs is allowed to prevail where should first see that their property and the lack of a definite set of progress and good government are is made to comply with the more rules to guide them has often the watchwords. brought about complications.

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permission to erect water closets i Mr. T. N. Chau, in seconding

If and when section 180 of the It is common ground that the dinance of that year, obviously are has been refused, although the the motion, said: It is time that premises concerned, in condition, this Board got down to some de Public Health and Buildings Or- usual terms and conditions are not so bygienic as those built in of that Ordinance. It is age, appearance and situation finite principle for the guidance dinance is repealed, owners of old stereotyped. They, however, in-compliance with the new require- desirable not to en- were identical to those where per- of the Select Committee in con- property would have to comply volve this essential requirement,ments mission has been granted; and sidering applications for the In-with modern requirements more that as regards premises situate therefore again permission has been grant-stallation of water closets. In the in keeping with the practice pre-outside the Peak area, an applicant courage the maintenance of this ed when premises of like circum- mind of an ordinary intelligent vailing in modern cities and re-must satisfy the Board that there old type of buildings: on the con- Wong Kwong-tin's build their old insanitary houses is an independent water supply, trary every legitimate lever should stances has been refused. This person, Mr.

i.e. a supply otherwise than from be employed to induce the owner to factor of uncertainty, dependent motion would appear to have to conform thereto.

the water mains. The question as pull them down and rebuild in ac- perhaps on mood and tempera- covered all the essential condi-

As I pointed out at the last to the merits of this exception in cordance with modern ideas. It is ment, should be entirely eliminat- tions upon which any application meeting of the Board the M.O.H. favour of the Peak does not arise known that the presence of water ed. Owners who wish to improve should be granted, and I submit only conditionally stated that he on this:motion. The exception has closets in any premises is an en- their property have a right to that, in the interest of public had no objection to that particular been accepted, and is being acted hancement of their value. The granting of permission to instal know what the conditions are be- health, it should be the bounder application that I have referred on, by this Board. `

to and I consider his condition It will thus be seen that section water closets serves therefore in. fore being put to the expense of duty of this Board not only to en- submitting plans, which may be courage the use of the flush sys- would be very difficult to enforce. 162 makes no distinction as to the effect to lengthen the life of, and type of house in respect of which thus to perpetuate, this undesir. disapproved for no other reason tem, but also to insist upon its

Jurisdiction of Board.

be granted. But able-type of building. permission can

The other view is that the use of than that the premises are not installation wherever possible.

Mr. M. K. Lo, in supporting the conflicting views are entertained by up-to-date.

Hongkong often boasts of its wonderful development and its motion, said:-The jurisdiction of members of this Board as to water closets, is but one of the should be modern sanitary conveniences which remarkable progress in many this Board in regard to water whether permission The question is what is the type directions, and yet one still finds closets la derived from section 162 granted in respect of "old type" one should be entitled to have as a of house that will be considered the crude bucket system so large- of the Public Health and Buildings houses. Some consider that per-right, and not as a matter of grace. Ordinance, as amended by Ormission should be refused for rea-'As long as a house is fit to be oc up-to-date? What is the type of ly in vogue in the colony-a sys-dinance No. 6 of 1927. Section sons which may perhaps be sum-cupied as a dwelling, there is no house that will be considered tem which no progressive city 162 (2) reads as follows:-"No marised as follows:-

would tolerate. Mr. Wong

Mover's Suggestion..

unfit for water closets? When will it become so and how will that un- fitness be determined? I am sug gesting that any house which has not been condemned by the Building Authority as unit and ordered to be demolished, should be deemed fit for the installation of water closets.

Clearly where there is not an Adequate and independent supply of water and the use of tap water

SALESMAN SAM

YA DON'T SAY? I NOTICED SHE WAS OUT WHEN I CAME

for

Two Schools of Thought.

reason to make any unfair dis- crimination against it by with-- holding from it one of the ordinary

person shall after the 23rd day of Kwong-tin has pointed out many June, 1927, construct any water serious objections, sanitary closet or urinal, and no person shall The type of housing existing in conveniences of a dwelling house. otherwise, against the bucket sys-maintain, or allow to remain on any place is an important factor Section 162 makes no such distinc- tem, and I am in accord with his any premises owned or occupied by on the general health of that place. tion, and there is no reason why the reasonings.. I do not ahim, any water closet or urinal, Ideal sanitary conditions are in- Board should.

I understand that you, Sir, and moment say that there may not constructed after the 23rd day of compatible with slums or insanitary be some reasons against the in- June, 1927, except with the per- houses. In Hongkong there still the Hon. the Director of Public stallation of water closets in some mission of the Board and of the remain many houses built before Works, belong to the first school of particular cases, but it behoves us Colonial Secretary and in accordance 1908, and these houses, being built-thought. I should naturally hesitate to weigh the pros and cons In with the terms and conditions of before the commencement of the to differ from such high authori

Public Health and Buildings Or- (Continued on Page 10.) each case and choose the lesser of such permission."

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