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Hon. Mr. J. Owon Hughoa--For what services will the Certificate be granted?:

Hon. Mr.. A. C. Hynes.--I take it there will be no gradas, but only one grada?“

OBITUARY.

SUDDEN DEATH "OF-MR. LEUNG CHE-TING:

The Chairman.This matter

Patrons of the Hongkong Hotel Arst came up for consideration in willilbarn with deep regret of the the time of Sir Edward Stullis sudden death of Mr. Loung Che and we were informed that the ting, who was for 36 years cashier Straita had accepted the sugge at the Hotel; in Pedder Street. flon and it was, recommended that

He passed away yesterday, after Hon. Mr. J. P. Braga at awe also should accept it here. We

vory short illness, at the meeting of the Finance Committee are now prepared to accept it and advanced age of 70 years, leaving have now put this vote before you,

and sight of the Logislative Council bold after, of course, the approval of the wife, two sons yesterday in the Council Chamber, Secretary of State and His Majesty daughters to mourn their loss. strongly criticised: the vote for the King. There is no fear that Mr. Laung,, who was a native of $1,063. for the provision, of Cert this cartificate will go into further Canton, Joined the original long- ficates of Honour-for recognising grades as you suggested, Mr. Braga,kong Hotel Company, and for 36 years haldithe position of cashier. servicos rendered: to the Colony. Invidious Distinctions. **** Hla naver. failing courtesy and

Hon. Sir Henry Pollock, asked

conscientious work, earned for him the respect and good will of not, only his colleagues, but all with whom he came into contact. The funeral takes place this arrived when we should avoid this, afternoon, when the remains will and this, to my mind, although a be taken to the Tung Wah Rest very small item of expenditure, isHouse, prior to their removal to an avoidable one which I personal.Canton. ly would vote against. I think It

entirely unnecessary.

if the certificate was something Hon. Mr. Braga.My point is special for this Colony or wers that the more of these things you other Crown Colodles having create and institute the more likely it is that Invidious distinction will similar certificates?:"/",

be felt, and I think the time has

The Chairman (the Hon. Mr.

E. R. Halifax)-All Crows Colonies are having similar certi

́ficates as far as we know,

Hon. Mr. J. P. Braga-Sir, Can you tell us what is the origin of the suggestion for the institution

Hon. Dr. R. H. Kotewall.---As far of this Corticate of Hanour as my memory serves, this matter far as it applies to Hongkong

was referred to the Chinese mem- The Chairman.If I remember bars of the Council for their opinion the history of it correctly, three years ago. We gave it our originated in the Federated Malay very careful consideration. I States, where the desirability of think it was first instituted in the some certificate for special re- | Straita Settlements And the

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as being responsible individually' as regards the expenditure of pubile money. I think this money. "is wasted.

"Hon. Mr. J. Owen Hughes-May give us a better idea of the ser I repeat my question? Can you vices which call for the receipt of this decoration? Is it a matter of life-saving or public service!

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cognition of local services Wa Federated Malaya States, and the found necessary. The idea was Government of the Straits Settle adopted by the Colonial Office and ments expressed the view that the

The Chairman-Public service. made practically universal for all proposal was very well received by the Colonies,

the natives for whom this

Hon. Sir Shou-son Chow-With Hon. Mr. Braga-Do I under principally instituted. Of course reference to this particular matter stand, Sir, that this is really a there are distinctions such I should like to eny that I was con- sort of recognition, may below M.B.E., O.B.E. and C.M.G. and so nulled and the District Watch Com. rocognition of M.B.E., for example! on, but it was considered a new mittee was consulted. Our object The Chairman. You may take form of recognition, which is not chiefly was to encourage the loyalty imperial but local, might be in-of the Chinese who had done pubile for the Colony. The Hoa. Mr. Braga-Is it absoluto stituted, which would serve as an service ly necessary that we should incur incentive and encouragement to the ordinary honour given to Chinese this expenditure as another form Chinese in Hongkong to render here is J.P., and we thought that of recognition when we have al services to the public. Wo have this honour, which is given in other ready in the Colony so many forms given this matter very careful con-Colonies, should apply to the consulted many Chinese in Hongkong who have from knighthood down to M.B.Esideration and besides the recognition provided Chinese and wo were informed, and done public service and helped the by funds that have been donated we also hold the opinion, that this Government In time of trouble, recertificate would servo a useful I cannot agree with Mr. Braga that by private individuals and sidents, who are not now any purpose: and therefore, Shr, I am this money will bo wasted because loager with us. as, for instance, prepared to support it. I know people who have done pabila ser. for life-saving and one thing, and Sir Shou-son Chow was in favour vice deserve a certain amount of another. Do we really require the of it at the time and be tells me honour. You give knighthooda, institution of a new form of, ro now that he. still is. As regards0.B.E.'s and C.M.G.a. for certain cognition, because I am very much opening another door to invidious kinds of public service. There are afraid there will be no end to the distinctions, so long as we have some who may not perhaps be on. line of distinction that will be distinctions already, I think the titled to these high honours, and I

I am think we ought to provide some Erasmic Toilet Specialities. created by these various forms of objection is not very strong. recognition?

sure that the Government of sort of recognition for them. Hongkong could be trusted to exer- clas discretion in giving certificates of this nature. Therefore, Bir. I support the suggestion which has received. as you have pointed out. the approval of His Majesty the King.

The Chairman.-The matter has been very carefully considered and you will note in the last sentence the explanation that the Secretary of State has signified His Ma,sty's approval,

of

Superfluous Expenditure. Hon, Mr. J. P. Braga-I should like to reply to the junior Chinese Hon. Mr. Braga-That does not member. His explanation, instead follow from the point of view of of convincing me or rather winning the members of this Council, be me over to the side of voting for cause we are in a position to know the Certificate of Honour, rather local conditions a great deal better cmr sises my objection to the in- than the Secretary of State for the stitution of this certificate because Colonics, To my mind it is a if it is, as I understand from him, superfluous expenditure, even principally for the Chinese- though it is a small one of a thou- The Chairman-Non-European

I hate to think, we residents. sand dollara, are going to create these various

Hon. Mr. Braga-He said. the formis of distinction BS to Chinese members had been consult meritorious service in the Colony, ed and in the F.M.S. It was prin- To my mind a great deal of service cipally intended for Chinese.

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Hon. Mr. Sheaton. Is this only to be confined to Chinese?

The Chairman-Non-European.

Money Well Spent. -. Hon. Dr. 8, W. Ta'o.-If. it is a reward for public service, I must say that I think the money will be well spent. It will have the ef fect of encouraging the people to come forward and do public work. It is not every man who has done public work whose name has been brought to the notice of His Majesty the King. Some people do public work quietly and it is only the Secretary for Chinese Affairs and the Departmental heads who 'PUDLO know what they are worth. This Hon. Dr. Kotowall.----I said | certificate will be an encouragement and will be worth all the money we

unostentatiously which can be un recognised and even unsolicited. Inatives. cannot agree to creating a new form Hon. Mr. Braga.-Well, wo have spend: It is a small amount, but it of recognition that is practically of no such individual in Hongkong as is worthwhile spending in order to no value,,

a native perhaps, with the excep-secure the loyal support of the The Chairman.--This is.. notion of half a dozen people.... practically of no value. It is of Tho Chairman. It la non-Euro- value. Your theory is we shall go pean.

on making new grades of ceri ficates of recognition beyond thinl

A Waste of Móney.

Hon. Mr. Braga.-I think. wo Hon. Mr. Braga. I am replying ought to draw the line somewhere. to the junior Chinese member's re

The Chairman. I think we marks. If that be so, I think the should draw the line here.

people:

Hon: Mr. Shenton. The first; I heard anything about this matter. was when I saw it in the minute.. As this appears to be a recognition. to non-Europeans and as, it is no strongly supported by the leaders of the Chinese community to whom it particularly. appertains, I should Argument is, all the strongerike to support it myself. Hon. Sir Henry Pollock-I rather against the institution of any parti-

Hon. Mr. J. Owen Hughes-I sympathise with Mr. Braga's recular class of distinction for any marks. When I saw this. I thought one section of the community.. I should like to support it in view of yield to nobody, as the juniorthe explanations given to this meet- to myself is this necessary, and it seemed to me it was not really Chinese member knows, in my ad- ingu

miration for the Chinese com- Hon. Mr. Hynes:-I should like necessary at all.

Hon. Mr. Braga.-We are throw-munity. I am all with them when to support it, too.

it is a question that they deserve The Chairman (to Hon. Mr. ing away good money..

support of the Unofficial members Braga)--Do you wish to be noted Hon. Sir Henry Pollock-It is of this Council, but when it is a as a dissentient, Mr. Braga? not so much a question of money, question of creating special dis Hon. Mr. Braga.—I do, Bir. but I deprecato' making a com- tinctions as in this case which ap- The vote was approved, the Hon. paratively trifling new form of repeal particularly to the Chinese, I Mr. Braga, being the only member cognition.

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