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SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 1928.

THREE BRITISH NAVAL BOXERS TO FIGHT HERE.

A heated discussion took place with regard to playing members serving on the committee and the representation of the rugby and. soccer sections on the committee, at the annual general meeting of members of the Hongkong Foot- ball Club, which was held in the boardroom of Messrs. Jardine" Mathieson's yesterday evening, Mr. J. Ralston presiding over a large attendance. The interpretation of. the rule governing the matter was argued and the discussion closed after an appeal by Mr. J. McCub- bin to the members to be sports- men and to stop "quibbling."

Above are three British naval, boxers now on the China Stution who will be seen in action here during the coming season. Left to right, they are A. B. White of H.M.S, Suffolk; A. B. Seaman,

of H.M.S, Suffolk; and A. B. Mudge, of J.M.S. Berwick,

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LOCAL BASEBALL.

HENDERSON TO MEET THE SACRAMENTO.

A baseball game has been arranged between the U, S. S. Sacramonto and the US. S. Naval Transport lender. son. The Henderson which da to`ar- rive to-day and leave the following day, radioed requesting a game with soma, team in South China for Satur day, and the team representing the US. S. Sacramento has been select- ed as it is undoubtedly the strongest baseball combination boro.

The Henderson is naval transport and has a very capable contingent from which to select a baseball team and should therefore have a very strong team.

The baseball game between the S. Sacramento and the U, S. S. Asheville for the championship of the South

Statea a Patrol of the United

will probably bo plaved on Monday, September 3,

3, at 4.30

10, p.m.; Labour Day-an American holiday.

The league fixtures for the wook- end for the junior division will be 2 p.m. 'on

on Saturday and 2 p.m. on Sunday, The game on Sunday be- tween the Kloras and the South China Scouts, should be keenly contested as these two terma nge the leading con- tenders for the cliampionship in the Junior Division.

At 4 pm. on Sunday, the Hong- kong Baseball Chub will play the South China Dragons.

Commenting on the annual report the chairman expressed the hope that the first eleven would be able to report a more successful season for and that the the

coming months. second cleven would do their utmost to fulfil the fixtures allotted to them by the league. The rugby team, ite noted were successful in Shanghai for the fourth time in winning the inter All three men pictured above Services in London, Portsmouth, being the Novlees Championship port shield. The chairman said he fight at the featherweight limit, Southampton and Plymouth. It is (two k. o.'s and one on points), the

Mr.

Championship on and they have all good records to interesting to note that his vic-Portsmouth thought they owed thanks to

ho had display- Wales for the energy

tories include one over Seaman points, the RN, and R.M Cham- ed as captain and in getting the team their credit. together (applause).

Senman White, whose weight is White, whom he is willing to meet plonship on points and a victory charge, at his own request, he was ovor Signalman Rogers, Ports- committed for trial. He was ac- Turning to the balance sheet, tho

9 stone, won the Atlantic Fleet ngalu.

mouth champion, on points. Inquitted by a jury, and the present In 1923, the chairman said that they had had a

Seaman Mudge has a good series the same year, he lost on points to charge, which had stood adjourned year and any increase Championship successful

was com- Mediterranean Ficet Champion-i on the expenditure sido

on the ahip in 1925, and he is the present of wins to his credit. In 1925, he Sergeant Beal, who was for three sine die, had been restored to the pensated for by an increase incomo alde. The club and become holder of the Royal Navy and won by the k. o. route over Young years Imperial Services champion. much

Royal Marines. Imperial Services Lamble, of Torquay, and won on During the present year, he has ore of a financial affair more it used to be.

Boxing Association Championship. points against Kid Sheppard, of won against Stan Hogan, of Ply The police and Pubile

Plymouth; Young Douglas, of mouth, by the k. o. route, and has certain Works Department had C amount of jurisdiction over the Club's

Jack Seaman fights at 8 stone 10 Exeter; A. B. Davis, of Plymouth; secured the decision over Marine netlons and it was due to their de-

that the expenditure had in-pounds, and he has met some good and Marine Bunker, of Plymouth, Bunker, of Plymouth; Len Pook, However, the ineams had inds in England. He has figured in in the following year, he won the of Torquny; and Young Sarahs, of

Fleet Featherweight Exeter. He recently lost Services Championships for two Championship, with two knock-points against Sergeant Auguose, years running, and has also had outs and two wins on points. He of the Northants Regiment, about a score of fights outside the had further wins in 1927, these Shanghai.

very

the

than

much

to Lho

nilvantage of the final of the Navy and Imperiul Atlantic

The actual position at present was that there was a balance of $16,000

in the bank and their old war on

of £150 was shown in the lance sheet at 2/ dollar, at $1,500,

The chairman concluded saying that

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Mr. Grobel, who defended, said that the evidence was the same in both cases, and he objected to his client being put in peril twice for name. It was a great hardship on | the same offence under another man who succeeded after a

have to stand his trial again. lengthy trial at the Sessions to

The evidence showed that Oram ignored a 'police constable'a algnal to stop, and his car came into slight collision with another car.

He said he had not observed the signal.

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appinuded. Ir. making the proposal, pinying member and when he was one man saying that the rule did not any there should be an equal number he thought those present would agree fr C. W. E. Bishop said they not..

Argument then turned on the rule of soccer and rugby men. with him that they had had a very all knew that during the past year. successful year and their thanks were Mr. McBride had acted as a fine cai-affecting the matter ami as to how lue to Mr. McTavish and Mr. Purves,inin and was always known as "That was to be interpreted, if it could. Mr. McBride proposed that the rule the hou. secretary and hon. treasurer. warrior on the field." (pplause be interpreted to mean that there be interpreted as menning that there Campbell) held that the two

The report and statement of acid nughter). "As captain he will should be two rugby members and should be an equal proportion of mem-charges were not substantially the Reiss, Massey & Co., Ltd.

bers from what was known as the same, and imposed a fine of $3, While the discussion was going 04 rugby section and the soccer section. will £5 5s, costa. than you have attained in the past." Mr. Bishop said he would withdraw

Mr. D. Lyon secondled.

counts were adopted,

President Elected,

In proposing that Mr. R. M. Dyer be lected President for the ensuing year, the chairman sakl

Dyer was a prominent sporting man of the community and had been a member of the Club for many years, He had also taken a very great part In many other sporte.

In secoding the proposition, Mr.

perhaps lead you to better successes two soccer numbers,

Motion not Accepted. On the preposition of Mr. C. B. nume.

Mr. McBride eventually proposed seconded that Mr. Robertson,

by Mr. J.

The chairman:-I thank you but I Stewart, Mr. J. Watson was elected an amendment to the resolution that

playing members should not serve am afraid I cannot accept that mo- Vice-Captain of the soccer team.

on the committer. He suggested antion. I make a ruling now that we Rugby Captain.

amendment to the effect that play- follow usage and wait. For this year. The election of a captain for the ing members should also be promoted while I am in the chair, I do not want rugby team was the next matter to to be members of tho, commille, to depart from that, I am in an un- J. McCubbin remarked that it needed engage the attention of the meeting, giving as his reason that as far as fortunkto position but I am not

words of his to convey. to the Mr. C. D. Wales, proposing the elec-e could see there were going to

of the Rev. H. V. Koop. Mr. comparisons made between the two binsed.

Mr. McCubbin then addressed the meeting how useful a min

In Hongkong for very

long but haby, and he thought that that would

sportamen," he said. "Let two rugger he had very much pleasure in had a lot of experience in first-be a mistake.

representatives go in. They will work Amendment Carried. seconding.

class rugby at Home and had played The proposition was carried.

The chairman remarked he thought equally as hard as the soccer section. I A. Ralston was elected Vicc. for Richmond. "I am sure he is an President on the proposition of Mr. ideal man for the job axi ban prit was perfectly obvious that they It is a case of doing the best for the A. H. McBride, Reconded by Mr. S. J.mised to give his whole time to im- would get intu great difficulties. if Club and I have always found that the Jordain.

the state of rugger in the they went into a discussion of the rugby members are as keen and de- matter. However, he put the amend sirous of helping the Club as soccer

na

of the

Lion

{standing of Mr. Dyer was to them Koop, said the proposer, had not been facetions of the club, soccer and meeting, "I put it to you all, to be

and

Mr.

proving

The former said they all knew what Color Ramsay: Is Mr. Koop a men- ment to the meeting that "Playing members. De sportsmen and don't and they knew what he was at present ber of the Club?

their chairman had done for the club

doing. He did not think that they

strong.

Ralston

of football in the Colony.

·

Secretary and Treasurer...

Mr. J. Murray proposed the clec-

posla."

Mr.

be in the same entegary as quibble over them."

members to Ali the

on the question, in view of the fact I did that a ballot of names for those to be i elected was suggested, the objection

The chairman:-Yes, Mr. Koop is a

This appeal closed the discussion could have

better man for the post member of the Club,

The amendment was carried, and and the matter was then dropped. How long has he been a member at Chan Mr.

Bishop's name was not withdrawn.

While the ballot scrutiny was pro- Mr. Jordain sald that when he first the Club?

Names proposed included Mesars, joined the Chub in 1920 he was pro- He paid his subscription last year

Mr. Ramsay proposed that Mr. Me- posed by Mr. Ralston. The speaker and has been a member practically Akehurst, shop, Robertson, Beceeding other business was dealt with.

veridge, R. P. Shaw and Duncan. knew that Mr. Rniston had been Asince he came to the Colony.

A member remarked that from the Cubbin bo made a life member, This The proposal was seconded by Mr. hard

worker from that day to the pro-

gentlemen nominated it was going to proposition was greeted with applause and, in seconding, the chairman said sent time, and ho was still going Beveridge and was carried.

proposing Mr. C.:D. Wales as be a P.W.D. show,

It was then pointed out that there he thought it was perfectly obvious In returning thanks Mr. Ralston Vice-Captain of the rugby team, the anid that he would do his utmost in

chairman said it had been pointed were two rugger nominations, Ake-that they had no other alternative,

Mr. McCubbin returned thanks, any way he could for the furtherance out that Mr. Koop bad not beenhurst and Beveridge, while the other No one could be worthier of the post. member for a very long time. Nol- four were noccer. Argument ensued

Work Appreciated. ther had, Mr. Wales.

Mr. Ramsay--Excuse nie.

The chairman said that last year, tion of Mr. W. Pryde to the position not point it out. I only asked th

being that neither of the rugby mon for the first time, at the annual gen- The chairman:As I pointed out might be elected and then there would oral meeting, they voted two honora- Pryde had done during the period ho ho has only been a member for be no rugby representation, which riums, one of 2400 to the hon. necret- had been the acting

short time. Perhaps he will assist would be against the rules as they ary and $100 to the lion, treasurer, the hion. secretary: remarking that he had done the job Mr. Koop to beat Shanghai when they must have at least ono man on the latter having been acting for a few months. It was the opinion of the in a thorough manner, and that he come down,

This was seconded by Mr. Ramsay committee.

Mr. McCubbin said it had been a committee and himself that the same had done more than they could rea- sonably expect. Mr. Murray said to and was carried.

recognised custom since he had been should be done this year. He there- felt sure that, in

Committee Argument. The next business on, the agenda member for there to be two mem-fore proposed that, Mr. Purves and they could look forting Mr. Pryde, successful year of football; also, in was the election of four members to hers from the rugby section and two Mr. McTavish should each be granted connexion with the now Club Fonse, the committee, the name of Mr, members from the football section. the sum of $200. "I would like you Mr. Pryde was & very active and use. Akehurst and Mr. Bishop being pro- He did not see any good reason why to know that this has been carefully that custom should be departed from. discussed and I leave it entirely to posed.

Mr. Bishop pointed out that the you."

Mr. Stewart seconded and the ratio between soccer and rugby was

Mr. McCubbin replied that that did motion was carried, about seven to three. Mr. Bishop:-This is not the Sele-not apply. tion Commitire.

of hon. secretary. In doing so, Mr. question. Murray commented on the work Mr.

ful man.

to

A very

The motion was seconded by Mr. With the proposed election of Mr. McCubbin, after which the chairman Bishop a member said he did not remarked that, he was sure the mem think that they should have playing hers had done the right thing and members on the committee. the reason why year you will know

"This time

The chairman commented that he

It was announced by the chairman Mr. C. W. E. Bishop proposed that It was then proposed that Mr. J. thought Mr. Bishop was wrong as that the two soccer committee men Mr. W. L. Alexander to elected as McCubbin should go on the commit- no momber joined either section but elected were Messrs. Robertson and

they were all members of one club, Bishop. treasurer. In doing so lion

tee ho

The mooting closed with thanks to Mr. McCubbin informed the meet-He ruled that Akehurst and Beveridge dwelt on the increasing work that was falling to the lot of the treasurering Wat he could not possibly stand should be elected to the committee and Messrs. Jardines fer the use of their

as he was leaving the Colony for that the remaining four be billeted board room for the meeting. to the collection with Tombers of the committea Igood in three months,

and he,

money himself, felt that the tren surer's arduous task might have to

for,

Difßtalt Point

The chairman sold that he person-

Then the point cropped up as to ally felt

very much depressed with

which

WBJ cor how they wore to know which men knowledge, be undertaken by a professional firm and undoubtedly that point would be munleated to bin only a few minutes were of the rugby section which were before, that they would miss Mr the soccer section, while: another considered the near futuro,

In seconding, tho chairman said McCubbin's presence in the Colony momber argued that the commitles that he had nover Boon work done and also that his usefulnces s

a

would have to reform the rules and

One member, who had been nomina-

MOTORIST CHARGED AFTER ACQUITTAL..

1.

SECOND OFFENCE FROM THE SAME INCIDENT,

so thoroughly as it had been done by member of the Club would come to make it distinctly one or the other. Mr. Alexander. There was, however, an ond in the very near future. "It he said, no need to go into the quesis with great regret that I invested for the soccer section, to test the tan: of professional auditing, but ask you not to propose Mr. McCubbin.

"A protest against a motorist be- self one of the rugby section. when thuit time came, it would be

He has been one of the best friends position, said that he would call him-

A good deal of somewhat heated dis- ing tried on a second charge after xreat help to have a professional man the Club has ever known for many to advise them.

years. He has played with practical- ly everyone here now who has played cussion ensued as to which section his acquittal by a jury in relation Mr A. T. Hamilton was re-elected

soccer, Ho has advised us on the was which, how the committee should to the same set of circumstances

of the rula. It was street, recently. as chairman of the committee on the field and on the committee and when be voted, and what was the correct was made by Mr. C. Grobel, at Bow

notice

An Old Member.

I proposition of Mr. C. D. Wales, on the committee. he was alwaystation

seconded by Mr. G. B. Robertson. Mready to go out at a "en" a

Wales remarked that he had only and he has never let us

known Mr. Hamilton for a year but

What Is A Playing

and

regard to

that the chairman should Isaac John Oxford Oram, aged 48, make u proposition and then someonean engineer, of Moscow-place, Bays-

could

I move an amendment in order twater, was charged on remand with during that time he had discovered A romewhat heated discussion then settle the matter.

The chairman replied that, if they driving his motor-car in a danger- that he was a great friend of the turned on the subfact as to whether Club and took a keen interest in playing members should serve on the would excuse him, he would preterious manner in Coventry-street, W.,

the not to do it. He was not biased. For on May 30,

Mr. Muskett, prosecuting, ex- both codes of football.

During boen put and there had never been plained that Oram was originally this discussion the vortinent question any question on the matter. He re-further charged with being drunk was naked, by Mr. Alexander, as whe posted his raling, which did not ap in charge of the car, and on that was going to say when a man was pear to antisfy some of the members,

committee

with The chairman: One of the oldest number of rugby players and soccer many years such a motion had never

players who should serve.

members is again in the chair. (applause),

The election of Mr. A. II. McBride

to captain the soccer team was loudly

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