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THE HONGKONG TELEGRAPH,

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DISCUSSION IN SANITARY

BOARD YESTERDAY."

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 27, 1928.

"POLICE SEARCH:

AN INCIDENT AT THE YAUMATI WHARF.

woman and he, is a man 7"" asked.

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Two other witnosoda were call- ed by the defonco. The first wan the ticket collector on duty at the wharf at the time of the incident. le corroborated the constable's.

who advised people not to spit in "public places. He said that hand- blile were distributed in the streets and everywhere, asking people net to spit in public places. He gave his opinion that the Board could not cut a habit by enforcing

The case in which Ngan Chi-on, The question as to the desiran inw. It would be far better if bility of making a bye-law against everybody learned that spitting in a Police Reservist, charged a Restatement, spitting in public was discussed their own Bees, house, or other gular Police searcher and also a Mr. Hodgson juggested that ha In committee at the Sanitary Board buildings, was wrong. He remem-woman searcher with assault, and saw the incident only when he had Meeting held in the Post Office bered that some years ago, when was himself similarly charged his attention drawn to it by the Bullding yesterday..

it was intended to introduce legis- in a cross-summons, was resumed scuffle.

Witness, ́in reply to hia. Wor- Intion to atop the habit, the late before Mr. R. E. Lindsell yester-

ship, stated that he was' first re Sir Kai Ho-kai in opposing said day afternoon, that if the law came into force the local gnola would be Insuficient to hold all the offenders."

Mr. W. J. Carrie occupied the chair and there were also present: The Hon. Mr. H. T. Creasy (Direc tor of Public Works), Dr. S. W. To, Dr. G. W. Pope (Medical Officer of Health), Dr. W. V. M. Koch, Dr. S. C. Ho, Mr. J. P. Braga, Mr Wong Kwong-tin and Mr. J. Watson

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Mr. Leo d'Almada, Snr., who requested by the complainant to. ceived bointed instructions to ap come into the case as a witness; Dr. Tso maintained that the pear in the case, applied for the but he refused, pointing out that habit could not be stamped out by recall of the Police Reservist for he was occupied with his duties law. The only thing that could cross-examination, but this ap and that if he did come in sa bo done wash by eduention and by pilcation was refused by his Wor-witness, it would be a staightfor- The chief secret of keeping well Dr. Koch, speaking in favour of a general warning and also, that ship, who pointed out that the two ward story that he would tell, within the hot-season-Ja dally regular-

lise that the habit was disgrace ful, so that they would refrain, from a sense of shame.

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Dr. S. C. Ho agreed that educa- tion was the only means by which A stop could be put to spitting. He said however, that merely put

ing up notices and, posters, was not sufficient, as many could not could get

ting said that if a bye-law was enacted laxity might be allowed at the beginning. He referred to the habit of imitating and said that people seeing others spitting pro miscuously are led to imitate it. He told the meeting of a certain gentleman, whose children, in their own house, never spat on the floor. These children when brought to the house of a friend, where they saw others expectorating, prompt-read. ly did the same, although they never did so on the floor of their own house. If the bye-law was in force, Dr. Koch stated that al- though it might seem rather hard, if time was given for the tden to sink into the minds of the people, he thought they would adhere to it closely.

Continuing, Dr. Koch said that he saw no objection in taking such a step and that for the start a warning could be circuinted and people would get to know in course of time that it was not only an offensive habit to spit, but also one fraught with danger to others.

Reliance on Education.

any favour being

tunity to have secured legal facili- either aide. lies earlier.

In cross-examination by Mr. P. M. Hodgson, who represented the Police Reservist, the first defen dant alleged that the complainant pushed his hands apart as he hold them out to search him at the Yau- mati Ferry Wharf. Later he was pressed against a shed,

He did not know that the com- plainant was a Police Reservist and did not know it was a Police Reservist badge that was shown to

him;

The Board respond intern in, matographs and lantern alides in public places showing the innigers. caused by spitting. He thought it, would be a good idea to get some In spite of great provocation, he of the local institutions, such as never touched the complainant the YMCA, YW.C.A., the St. once. He had often heard of as John Ambulance Brigada and the saults on the Police, and in the Chinese Medical Association to na-prosent case he did not call out for assistance or blow his whistle to sist.

summon such assistance.

Mr. Carrie informed the meeting that the discussion originated from resolution which was submitted a few weeks ago, a reply to which was received from the Government yesterday. The Medical Officer of Health made a fow suggestions to him (Mr. Car rie), one of them being on the

of what was done in 1907-8.

Further examined, defendant said he seized the complainant by the shirt front only when the lat ter had seized his.

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Mr. Hodgson': That is some

Newsboy Witness. However, on being pressed by the constable, he admitted he changed his mind, and now ap peared as the latter's witness.

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The second witness, who la a nawaboy, frankly admitted when questioned that he had no li cence. He gave corroborative avi. dence in favour of the constabla, PIANOS. and was cross-examined by Mr. Horison

Mr. Hodgson: You sold paper to the complainant?

Witness: He never bought ons, from me.

Mr. Hodgson: That is why you

are here.

Witness said at the constable's request he agreed to be his witness.

At the conclusion of the evi- dence, Mr. Leo d'Almada pointed out thint the complainant being Police, Reservist, and also being well-instructed as such, must have been fully aware that he was not excluded from a polico search.

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Mr. J. P. Braga gave his opinion question of Tuberculosis and the thing new. The whole case of action. In spite of that he wa MUSICAL that they must rely more on eduen promiscuous habit of spitting. the complainant le that you scized who was only doing his duty, that he was a Police Reservist. If he tion to get people to fall in linelle said that he had looked up him first. with the sanitary requirements of certain old papers on the subject Defendunt denied this anggea-bad submitted to the search a city with a population, consist- and members would see a gyitopsia tion, as he denied also the sugges-straightaway, there would have tion that he took complainant by been no incident, and the Court ing as it did, of ninety per cent of practically illiterate people. The Chairman said that he also the shoulder as they went to the would have been spared these pro- He said that the people had not yet found that during the year 1922-3lice quarters in the new Gov-ceedings, attained to the state of education where one could enforco bye-law with a penalty attached, to an offence like spitting in the public streets of the Colony.

the matter was again discussed by ernment Building across the way. Asst ming that the constable did. the Board and 150,000 pamphlets were distributed. Every person owning a cubicle space through out the Colony received one of the pamphlets.

The woman searcher also went use some provocative remarks, into the witness-box, frem where which he did not, that again she stated that she was 45 years of brought them round to the fact age, and had been employed as-a that the original cause of the trou searcher for three years, over since ble was the complainant's refusal The public utility companies

to bo searched on the score that Mr. Carrie said that he also the last big strike. such as the trams, ferries and buses had their own bye-laws and found a paper written by. Dr. H.

Speaking of the incident, she he was a Police Reservist.

Mr. Hodgson for the complain- a former Government regulations and posters were dis-H, Scott, played on their vehicles asking Bacteriologist, who pointed out said that the complainant went on

for the complainant to any when people to refrain from spitting that the expectoration habit was the wharf followed by his wife, said it was the natural thing Were the Board to make a bye-law a direct cause of tuberculosis and and there were four other women he received a demand to be searched, that he was a Police making it an offence to spit in also that it was the expectoration bringing up the rent

on the floors of a room that was On her part she was engaged in Reservist, not in the sense of be public, Mr. Braga thought that much of the efforts and the zeal of the the chief source and not expec-searching the women, and was not ing officious, but in the hope that police, who have their time fully toration in public places. There aware that anything had occur- he would not be searched. Nobody was no deterrent to a man' spit-red between the two men until on in this Colony, said Mr. Hodgson, taken up, would be diverted to bak-

going out she saw the complainant preferred to bo searched if ho ing men and women to the police ting in his own house.

cours.

the notices on

separated of their own accord.

they

The Chairman added that if a in the act of holding the constable could avoid that trouble. bye-law was rude the Chinese and by his chest. She endeavoured The complainant and his wife Indian policemen would be just as to separate them, and not succeed were well-dressed. He was a man bad offenders as anybody else. Ining, suggested that they should ace of business, filling the position of a banker, and his demeanour when regard to Dr. Ho's suggestion of the Inspector. At that

giving evidence went to substan lectures, the Chairman remarked that he thought that any person

thate the fact that he was of d intelligent enough to go to lec-

quiet disposition and was not the ture would know all about the ab-

type of man one would expect to have assaulted a constable in jection to spitting promiscuously. He added that no resolution an

uniform in the manner alleged. proposed and the matter rested thero.

It was not true that she struck the complainant. "How could have dared to do that as I am a

streets it would be found that Chinese and Indian policemen would be spitting as frequently perhaps as the offenders themsel

vea..

Continuing, Mr. Braga said that the Colony would do well to have posters in public places, and that anybody viaiting the market or other public places should be told of the objectionable habit of spit ting. He said that the Colony should not only resort occasionally to campaigns against spitting but that posters should be placed everywhere at all times. Mr.

Iis Worship said that he had no Braga suggested such places as

doubt in this case that the original telephone standards, market places,

Time a Start Was Made.

complainant (the Police Reservist) ferry wharves and river boats, ca being suitable for posters.

Dr. Pope addressing the meeting

relying on his position, as a Police Reservist, did in fact object said that he thought it was Lime Should be Told.

a start, was made to stop people Dr. Koch: I think that spitting strongly against the search and Dr. S.W. Tso said that as regards from spitting in public. He said in public is far more dangerous, that was the real cause of the trou- the trams and that the effect of preventing The spit in the street is dried by ble. His refusal undoubtedly led ferries, so far as he observed, these people from sitting in public the sun and wind. It is tread upon to high words and then to the were always obeyed by the people would gradually be felt in the and carried by the wind and scule between him and the con- and he added that his experience homes and the man who cease to people breathe it in whether they stable. At the same time his Wor was that if anybody transgressed spit in public would cease to spit like it or not and if they are at ship could not help believing that all in a bad state of health they the constable was tactiess and the rules they were promptly at home.

positively aggressive. He was "hauled over the coals." He added Dr. Koch (to the Chairman): got the disease. that the public, especially the Chi- Do I understand you to say, that

Continuing Dr. Koch said that acting however, strictly within his nese public, always behaved well Dr. Scott said that spitting in the spitting in a house was not like rights in insisting on this search. when travelling in public vehicles house is more serious that spit- that. It could be confined to a Under the circumstances his Wor- and he saw no reason why the ting in a public place?

spitoon. Spit on the floor of a ship thought justice would be met Board should make

a Inw

house was not crushed up and if he dismissed the original sum- Mr. Carrie: Yes he did.

Besides the mons (by the Folico Reservist) at all.

blown to the winds. He said that any- The Chairman then read ex floor of a house was damp..

and also dismissed the cross-sum- body committing the offence tracts from Dr. Scott's paper in

mons with a caution. should be told at once of it and in which it was claimed that spit-, In reply to Mr. Wong Kwong His Worship also observed that this way the suppression of spitting in the house was more dan tin, the Medical Officer of Health he could not help thinking it was ting in public could be more ef- gerous. The paper did not recom- stated that in recent years Tuber usking for trouble if, after having fectively carried out,

mend any law because it was culosis had been on the increase. had all these badges. Issued to Dr. Tso recalled the general pointed out that a man could 'not

Mr. Wong suggested that that them, the members of the Police strike when he was one of the be stopped from spitting in his was no cause for alarm as

the Reserve were still subject to members of a Chinese committee own house. Moreover, In the population had also grown, search by the regular police.

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