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MILITARY LANDS.

MR. FLETCHER'S SPEECH.

WHOLE POSITION EXPLAINED,

The Hon. Mr. A. G. M. Flataher,! acting Colonial Sacratary, yester day made a lengthy statement in ment in the Legislative Council) on the military lands question',

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statement

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY

1924.

diverted to civil purposes, áccord-HONGKONG SPORTS & [PASTIMES (Sixth Series )-

ingly, whenever any of such lands which have been set apart for defensive purposes "have, from change of circumstances, or from any other reason, eesuet to answer the purpose for which they were set apart, and are in consequence surrendered by the military authorities, their value should be treated as forming a capital applicable, either medintely or iran time to time, so far as it will extend, to providing ether lands or buildings which may be required in the Clony for such purposes.

Valuation of lands or build ings, when required under the circumstances above mention- ed, should be made, by the Colonial and mihtary authorities Sunjointly, or in the event of their

by disagreeing.

and independrat

competent Surveyor to be chosen by agree- ment between the Home and Calomial Governments whose report should be final."

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The Colonial Secretary in intro- ucing the question, suid: Before moving the resolution which stands in my name, I must state that it is not proposed to ask honourable members to vote upon it to day. 1 propose to make. explanatory of it, and if any mem-i bers should care ta nek questions arising out of that, statement, then the Council can go into Committee for the purpose of those questions. 1 bag, Sir, to move this resolution :: Besolved that this Gavera- ment approves the acceptance ni] the award of Sir John Huberti

There is this liability in Oakley, dated the second day ofpect of military lands, and there November, 1923, in, respect offis. The further obligation on the certain lands situated in the Colony to provide 21 per cent of Colony of Hongkong now vested its revenue under the Defence in the Army Council, as set out Contribution Ordinance, 1501. in Sessional Paper No. 1 of 1924, paragraph 5 of which reads: and recommends that steps be taken to give effect to it as SD as possible.

The sand percentage shall be deemed to be a fixed contribution payable by the Cubny in tull return for the annual cost of the Underlying Principle.

Imperial garrisca, including all It may perhaps clear the ground capital expenditure required inr fer un understanding of this

military lands and buildings and complicated question if I begin by the

ot maintenance of all explaining the principles underly

and buildings, military works ing the tenure of military fans and the cost of lodging in lieu and transactions in those lands of barracks and of other military The policy of the Imperial Govern. charges whatsoever, provided ment is laid down in what is known that in year shall the sum as the Military Lands Circular paid by way of percentage exceed despatches-af 1990 and 1894, the the cost rulings most immediately in pom: being the following:

year,"

of the garrison for that

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On arvount of the changing conditions of warfare, it not: The question of military lands infrequently occurs that Colonial tenure was the subject of constant Government of the Colony must re- it is necessary to explain the age- rond the Standard Oil holding at

be come to Lalchikek, which goes lands and buildings set apart for friction and dispute over a period serve the right to reject them in ruilitary purposes cease to be of many years until the pusition. I think that this was a wise between this Government and the crown of the road down to the necessary or suitable to their was finally crystilised in the year

members know it: purpose while, at the same time, 1005 by what is known as the Lewis decision, because Sir John Oakley War Department. A special torpedo pier belonging to the Navy. small house at its or subsequently, other lands and

agreement. Since that date the as arbitrator must necessarily be count is to be opened, to the credit think hoz,

southern extremity. The proposal buildings have to be acquired to rights of the railitary over their in a more independent position than side of which is to be put the sum there is a

the meet

necessities of the land, their

reserves an their as valuer for one side only; and as of £114,000, representing military is that we should level that hill, fil

by the overpaid

in the valley and construct a large garrison.

encroachments have been absolute-the War Department were

These works will It is further considered that ly defined, and it must be accepted position that they did not care whe- Calony in respect of the two years, cantonment.

1917-19 1918-19 There will be furnacessarily take a long time. It has all each military properties and as a postulate of the present argu-ther they sold or not, they were their values should be treated as ment that these rights are absolute, sure to stand by his figures. I ther put to that credit side the valne been suggested that the Gun Club part of a capitulum devoted to and that they must by bought a may here express the opinion that of military lands which will be sold Hill barracks may be completed in defensive purposes, and that their the existing market value. This the Colony has been very fortunate to the military for the purpose of three years and the cantonment in realizable or estimated vales demand for the removal of the

thereprovisioning That value will not five years. I think, personally, are this is too optimistic a view. In should, as hereinafter detailed, garrison trom its present positions lia getting an arbitrator of be retained by the Colonial Gov- comes, nut

from the military calibre of Sir John Oakley. I think be great, because the lands

the any event we have to put out our crament, and be held, by the authorities, but from the Colony that opinion will be endorsed by situated scone distance from available towards the provision | The reasons

obvious those who came in contact with him. centre of the Colony. On the debit money for these new works over a side will be set this sum of approxi-period of years, which may be five unnecessary for.

Witnesses. as it may be subsequently neces-me to refer to them at any length

As both the Government of the mately 817,000,000, representing the and will not probably in any event be more than tea: We cannot-get military

of such other lands na i buildings that i:

afe

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Colony and they isolate large busi

districts Bess

one from another. The Army Council has expressed

witnesses

For

T

sary to sepurė for defensive These large self-contained areas Colony and the local military purchase price of these

military authorities until the Gar purposes.

Land With a view of removing an

block the normal development of the authorities were in agreement, it lands. That price, of course, in any large area of land from the rison has been reprovisioned. was decided not tv call separate cludes the full value for any

& public when the British battalion goes to misunderstanding, Her Majesty's

The which may be used for either side. ticvernment have thought it desirable to formulate their pro-

names of prominent business men purpose. For example, there is a Gar Club Hill, we hope to get the pals in the following terms: itself as willing to sell at a price, and valuers were put before Sir proposal that a new City Hali may greater part of the land on this

The free surrender to the fand it la now for us to consider

Join Oakley, and he called those be but on Murray parade ground side. Therefore, it will be seer The Public Works Department that interest on our money plays Colony of all Colonial military whether it is worth ur while to pay whom he wished The gentlemen lands and buildings no longer that price. required by HM. Government,

בז

Previous Agreement.

As to the price. In the winter chouson, the Hon. Mr. R H Kote any buildings that they require.recover it by use of these military

the and early spring of 1992,

Mr.

Henry, The

first situation

who gave evidence were the Hon, will proceed as soon as may be to a most important part in this mat- Mr. AG. Stephen, the Hon. Mr. reprovision the garrison by former. Our money is going out for up a definite period and we can only sites. and patting the engagement by the

P. H Holyoak, the Hoh Mr. Chowing Colony that, in the ever of

which they lands after some indefinite future the lands and buildings being

wal Mr. Bernard, Mr. required then or future for the defence of Perkins and myself, representing Humphreys. Mr. L. G. Bizil and Mr. will begin to deal with is Gan Club period. These values of Sir John

is already military Oakley are for the lands in bulk the Colony, the Chinny shall this Government, and Colonel Dary, Gibbs A number of officers in the Hill, which

no payment Necessary Expenditure. provide an equivalent for the representing thr local military Public Works Department were also land. There will be

The Town Plazning Committee fans and buildings an surrender authorities,

in respect of the land.

its most intensive lay-outs, puts ed, towards the satisfaction of signed finally on the 31st March elaborate plans showing the push

ments, and to that end the salie į Excellencies the Governor and

surrendered shall be ascertaizred

Certain

to the Imperial and recorded, and any lands and was forwarded buildings provided nit of that Government for approval value shall be held by H. Mcorrespondence ensued with the Government on the sacie tenure War Office, and in the meantime the prices of land rose very rapidly as those surrendered.

Tur boom had set in, in full force.

tions during the last

Read on

The Same Mistakes,

There-

the above mentioned require 1022 which was endorsed by theirtion of all lands sold at pablic sue it has been argued by some that atide 45 per cent, of the gross area 15 years in by patting the British battalion in for road parposes. In the "Praye that position we shall simply be East reclamation the area given to of the lands nad build General Officer Commanding and all parts of the Colony, giving repeating the mistakes of the past roads is 42 per cent, not including the upset price. the realised price I do not think that can be the case the present. Praya East road, and and the rate of Crown rent; and We have a 100-foot road on both not including the roads which wilk iso plans showing all private sales, sides of Gun Club Hill Gascoigne be built across the land by private

the northern boundary parties dwelling there. between private parties, of land within reasonable distance of these and a 100-foot road across the fore, in reckoning the amount of Sir John southern boundary. In any event money you are going to get back large military areas. The War Office decided to investi-Oakley visited, in company with the military authorities would not from these military lands, you have This proposal is based on the

gate the matter itself upon the Lionel Dary and myself, a very wish to go further afield, and the to contemplate them very largely assumption that the Colonial military lands in question con- spot, and in September, 1993, they stitute a permanent Defensive sent out Sir John Oakley. On his large number of these sites in per- Fund of the Colony, the integrity arrival the Government decided to of which should be preserved. in invite him to act as arbitrator, with kind or value, even though the this limitation, that while his figures original landa themselves may b would not be questioned, yet the

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titled as anybody else to the smen have to form thess roads, provide The drainage: water and light, all mat- ities of existence here. British garrison are as much en decreased in size. In addition, you

con ters of considerable expenditure second site which is ander A Special Account. In order to understand the exact sideration--and I think will prob

{Continued on Page 8.} position with regard to these values, ably be chosen-is the ridge be-

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