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FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 1923.

Yesterday's Legislative Council Debate. An interesting debate took place at yesterday's Legislative Council meeting, presided over by His Excellency the Governor, on a motion introduced by the senior Unofficial member for the aboli tion of the "No-Chit" section of the Liquors Ordinance, A full report of which follows:

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in this measure to prevent hotels] No Excessive Drinking, this legislation will not go so far from suing for drinks, for that is

We were distinctly told by His as to use the Official majority. I covered already by an Act of Excelleney the Governor, at that suggest that if your Excellency is George 1. known under the time that the object of the Bill unable to accept the whole of this euphoneous name of the "Tip was not to stop drinking, and failing rosolation, you will at any ralo pler's Act. But here. Sir, that there was no justification what consider the possibility of amending have legislation passed to make this failing to ensure cash down over for passing the law. It was the Ordinance so that it covers the for drinks served to non-residents Part of tho D.O.RA. Act at Hrme, points I have raiand and refer only in the hotel a criminal offenço I was born of a desire, perhaps to the public bars of hotels, which Mr. Pollock's Resolution.

consider it "is

a grave inconvenk punishable with a fine of $250-sentimental desire, to share in will make the practice more work- The Hen. Mi, 11. E. Pellock, K.Canes to their business..

criminal offence both for the hotel. the sacrifices we all shrod in ntable. It is, no I think your Es-, Sir beg to move,ihe following re The Case of the Cocktail

keeper and they person who signs Home, and through the acrifices collenty "will" admit, the sincere solution which stands in my nume It is very difficult to see exactly the chit. Surely, our Police in perhaps contributo more largely togivsire of the hotel I happen to be That in the qiion of the members, how closely we are to interpret this Colony have plenty to do war charities which existed in thia Director of, to fulfil the law, and of this Council, it is desirable that the phrase used in sub-section 25, going about the Colony preventing Colony and national needs. But I think they have proved it; but section 3 of the Liquors. Ordinance, section 3, of the 1917 Ordinance or detecting serious crime instead honourable member of the Council Raw that under the present law 1917, should be repealed.

that liquor is to be consumed in of having to spend their time and your Excellency, through having it is almost impossible to do so, This set, Sir, as I think is woujunction with a bona-fide meal, lounging about hotels trying to perused the records of this Colony Colonial Secretary's Experiences, known to hom members, provides Literally, it might mean that and gentlemen who sign chits for since you arrived, will agres, I KELVIN MOTORS "that, except in the ense of persons man would have to swallow his drinks though they are not rethink that in me part of alte Empire The Colonial Secretary: As late who are residing in an hotel, it is/drink with his mouth full. One sident in the hotel, with a view were, war charities more substanti. Its an hour age, Sir, I haul not the

does not know to what extent such to instituting prosecutions. Thereally and fully supported than in intention of speaking necessary that eash shall be paid in a phrase may be carried. At all a wave of serious crime in the this Colony, and that in, no part motion. I do so with some didi- Works... Kowloon 21spect of any liquor which ia vents, supposing a man who is Colony, and it is clear, also, that the world, so far as the British deace and with

no overwhelming "Manager

Kowloon 633 served in conjunction with a hona non-resident in the hotel is our Police, with the various duties)

But I have had con fide meal for which a charge of not taking his friends to the theatre they have to attend to, have quite are gues, and certainly not her, conviction. HARBOUR CALL-FLAG less than 30 cents can be reasonably and giving a dinner in the hotel enough to do. It is also clear, cold an accusation of excessive

siderable experience of the working mady. When this misasure was pass before the theatre, and that he submit, Sir; that no sufficient drinking be made.

of the chit aystem and perhaps I STIAM LAUNCH TOX SALT, ed in this Council in the year 1917 wants to give them a cock-tall reason has been given for inter Justification at all for passing than in a position to sound a werd it was opposed by some of the Un. before dinner. The dinner is, offering in this way with the in- Ordinance, If it was a war measure of warning as to the possible re Official Members, including myself, course, to follow the cocktail, but ternal management of the hotels there is piore, reason for repealing sults: I have been looking up the and the first speaker in position apparently, to take a strict inter-as to whether they shall or shall it at the present monit, because report of the Council, at which "I was. Mr. Stanley Dodwell, who pretation of this particular sub-not accept chits from some man the justification for it, if there was was prevent, when Mr. Shewan pointed on very clearly that there section, the host would have to whom the manager may consider any. no longer "ohtajns.

"I cannot compare myself produce cash to pay was no neerssity for .augh as 12-

for these a perfectly solvent", and reliable distinctly bolair in its results, be with the Hon. Mr. Pollock and sure; that as a matter of fact, for drinks. I believe that is what is member of the

community...ause it discriminated between the the Hon. Mr. Dodwell "in" done as far as possible, but, I think," Sis, I

· gimme years-på-teh splriety-el-tito

have said quits in the street-and-the-man-in. things, but of one thing I know mon in this Colmy had been steadily carry it out in the hotel. Take should be repealed, and my hon him, unterstand, the Ordinance question of drinking in bare." I helieve it is not pessible to fully enough to show that this section the b. The very people against as much as they do, and that is the inergising, and I may ad that another instance. The me being friend the member for the Cham-s mainly leveled were able inune do not daim that advantage over sinflar remark mag l applied to finished the parties perhaps get her of Commerce will be able, no diately to transfer their support, it the honourable member who has the interval, which has elapsed be a little tired of the dining-room douat, to bring forward further twem les passing of the Ordinance and decide to go into the lounge reasons which I have not given they needed to do Bo nhd wished moved this motion, but I do. elain in, 1917 and the present day. When for the Corridor and

have their beg to move the resolution stand do se, to any one of the mans to have had a wide experience this measure, Sir, was brought for coffee, and if brandy is ordered ing in my name.

clubs and obtain whatever, credit with this chic system, My Aret ward 1 had a diffigthy and the to go with the coffee then, again,;

they wished. Therefore, I submit introduction to it was in my under.. samo difficulty L'experience today this question of cash payment

that to the man in the street He graduate day's in Oxford wher -in seeing what possible good and genes in. Orrshifting the scene

was grossly unfair and a pices of proferred 28. 3d. for a tin of Crayon met" with" tho useful lye snech a measure cim to the Repulse Bay Hotel, what la H. Mr. P. H. Hulyoak: Yuliscriminatory legislation, and für tobacco and "was be expected to servet cat that meet to happen there? People go out Excellency, it is ting that ther that it was impracticable in requent that I should put my ing the Attorney-General did IL there to dance Very often they should first decläty, in discussing the -bring forward any reasons for theding here, before they dance, or,-peal of this section of the Ordi passing of this particular clause of as I have done myself--you dance nance, that 1 mit interested, to the the Liquor Ordinance, but left it with your dinner, or, in the words exten that 1 as a greseala It is an absurdity that in I thought it was most generous of ad the hon. Colonial Secretary, Sirf the Ordinance, in conjunction Director of the Hongkong Hotel: Colong like this to-day you should him to let me put it down. I let Cland "Severni, 14 expound there to give your guests a drink you

if you want but trust that iny reputation upon able to dine in sofort is one him put down more, items with the "sous. On that greason that hun have to start again with this cash is haarable Commeil and in the room, and either because the room result that later on. I found I haul. number produced a bag of thits for business. This clause, is partible venin in this Coby willis hut or "that, you “do Det parti-very heavy bills, which I could not sat of all three thousand decularly inconvenient when hotel of any desire to infuever evturly like the man sitting next possibly have met if I had tried Jars for drinks which had been ser proprietors have to deal with the Commit in any agents to you, you desire to have a cup of to pay cash as I went along. Later, yed at a wayside hotel--the North native staff, and is, perhaps, also faveur of the Hotel And, Indeed. coffee in the lounge, you then im- when I came in this Colony, I had Point Hotel, which has since been inconvenient when they have to mug a particularly clear conscience mediately pass from the possibility further experience, We wero all- rechristened the Ming Yien Gardes) with rather peppery

curi pansetion with this matter, be of being an honest law-abiding very impecunious in those days dens. The Colonial Secretary, as omers who do not sau why they cause I have, from the agry firet civisen that of a law breaking and, by the 15th of the month we part of his argument, suggested that," should be compelled to produce been consistently opposed to this citizen, with criminal responsibili irs had not any cash at all. We then In view of this huge bag of chits, coin as a certificate of good faith | Ordinancer. Ju the year 1917 the both to the Batel and yourself. I proceeded to look round for some it would be ah excellent thing for

About Juniors. ..

late Governor. His Espelleney Sistanis that that ought not to be favoured friend who had $10 to lead have this measure, which would One has heard, Sir, a suggestion | Hehry May, approachest me as the The charge has more Than

and some of us, I am afraid, got bring comfort and happiness to made that juniors in firais, are the Chairman of the Hongkong been leveled at the Houdamo know, the arms compradores, every manager and hotal proprietor. allowed Targe credit, or too large Club to suport net on1,Che jussing speaking as, a

with the result that one It was, however, opposed at that credit, in the hotel. That point of such an Opliance as "was then answering the charge-that the man went out.

They were unable tire by the Hongkong Hotel and will be dealt with by my hon proposed but also an erartinent that Hot system has unwisely encour to meet their debts and had to the King Edward Hotel, showing friend Mr. Holyoak, who will would close the Club bar during ged expenditure on the part of the leave the Colony. This was. that they did not jake the anime second this motion, and 1 thinkertain hours of the day, Well, junior, Now, Sir, I wish to rate doubtedly due to the chit system view of the ustice as was taken by derable restriction placed upon busted that

The will say that there is a consist, with the deference at that ti gorically state that not only has the generally, the signing of credit for de Colonial, Seentary. Another point which, I think, was made was but in respect to expenditure gens made out whatever.

was no Hotel not suffered as a matter of anything and overything, and it clerks in firms not only for drinks neeessity fur is, that there was 19

actual revenue from the enactment sene to me that unless some good THE KIDDIES' STORE ung man had got inte rally in the hotel.

As I sug

Ingleed of this Ordinance, and therefore ground can be put forward as to diffenties in paying his drink ebits

as Chairman of the Club at that from that point of view it is an why this Ordinance is bad there fgested at the time, this "Ordinanet and had to have his passage paid was introduced, Sir, it seems to time, I knew that the money which necessary to repeal it, but further is not sufficient reason for inter home. Well, Sing with regard to me, that this legislation is prac-was being spunt at the Jar was than that is positively and absolutely foring with it The Hotels appar- that point, it seemed to me almost tally useless, I do not honestly an extremely small am and there refuses to give credit of more than ently are the protagonista in asking Judicrous that because one or two see that it could have any real was no justification for the argu$25 to any junior of any necredited for its repeal. Why? Why should" young men had given way to drink effect. It seems to me an attempt,ments then presented. However. firm in this place. Therefore, I do they object to receiving cash! If and got into difficulties, a consider and a somewhat petty attempt, in deference to His Excellener'sub think it can be justly accused you go to the Trocadero alde inconvenienet should be inflict interfere with the internal mana-wisher, the matter was pay before pin these, circumstances of encourag. Ritz in London do they ask you to ed upon all persons frequenthggement of the hotels in this the Hongkong Club Committee and ing undue credit and therefore ensign chits for your drinks, or do Larire establishments like the theo Colony. I said just now It is unanimously turned down at that couraging undue a expenditure fey here when you go to pay your hotels I have mentioned. It is like absolutely ludicrous to suppose, time. Later this proposed Ordi- money. I submit that the law as it hill say "Plense pay the cheque

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Why should they walnut. In fact, Sir, "tis Excellency takes to drink, this clause in the regret that at that Ge I hap-arrying out without placing both object in this case? One argument the late Govenor expressly disOrdinance will save him, for, apart pened to be absent through it the quest of any hotel in this put forward was the difficully in cliinid that there was any iden of from the hotel, you have places health in Japan and

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ing. I will bunte his words: The refer, where a man can get drink would have done had I been'pre-nance, or the Hotel in accepting and what can be done in other

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