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NOTES & COMMENTS.
KOWLOON MEETING-PLACE.
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER
1920.
INDO-CHINA'S. N. MEETING.
The China Coast Officers" qualifies
Guld.
Shanghai
Continued from Page IJ
Messrs. Jardine Matheson & Co. Ltd.. General Managers, ·
DAY BY DAY
for
pension and recavas Home, leave pay and passages, is not susiciently well August 25th, 1920 paid, nor can it be held that a
Junior Second Officer, Junior THAT IS DEAD, WHOOFDI-REIN Z
AN IDLE PERSON Chief Officer or Junior MaateT THE CHANGES AND NECESSITE with mess found, and who cap OF THE WORLD-Jeremy allow himself out of his pay $100.
Indo-Chin■ SN, Co, Ltd,
Dear Sirs,
I am instructed to inform you luxuries, is badly treated-when
per month for necessarias and
We are going to pan a few words regarding the necessity of |a meeting-place in Kowloon for
gatherings of the character that matter of Pay, Leave and Per- took place on Monday evening, sions, which you will please be whan mambars of the ERA good enough to nota and conTOY assembled to hear an account of to the Engineers and Officers that the Management Committee at 4 to the dallar he can remit to the Association's proposals re- serving under your command.
of this Guild has gone carefully England £27, £35 12. At, and garding matters of moment to the Pay-Harried members of the into the sarms of the Circular 471 per month respectively, sums latter is unasidably held over "Another HCL - Your general community. It was in- Staf” having Wivon
issued by you on August 16th very much in excess of the actual until to-MOITOW, dicated at that meeting that, in Children (not exceeding the age and has submitted same to the wages paid at Home. We engage consequence of the impossibility of 17 years each) resident in the consideration of the members, the man, we pay them, we appoint of securing a hall on the Kowloon Esat will be granted an increase and I am to inform you that the them to their ships and if they side, the meetings of the Com-¡ of Ten per centum (10 per cent) Management Committee and prove themselves worthy of con-
Assocation on their Dollar Pay. Effective members view with grave confidence, we offer them employ-Wiltshire Regt, has been appoint- Lieut. 3. E. Thompson, of the have had to be held in the from 1st January 1920. (This is/cern the very meagre concessions ment at & waga and with othered Command Signal Officer vice-
concessions which compare most Lt. E Norman, R. G. 4.
mittee of this
par
and or
therein specified.
I remain, Dear Sirs,
Yours faithfully,
are pre-
office of one of the members (in, lieu of a house allowance.) in Fongkong. and that par-
Leare-Nine months" Leave
I am to state that, in addition¦ favourably with those enjoyed by mission to use the British School when granted will carry with it to these concessions, an increase men serving in any other Linus for Monday's gathering was Six months' full Sterling pay. of thirty per cent, in the salaries the world over. rather tardily given, the Govern-Effective from 1st January 1920. of all grades is the minimum)
As stated above, we ment expressing the hope that Passage-As
Circular which the members concemed pared to work with the Guilds, Yesterday's "health returns other arrangements would be made dated 4th Fahruary 1920, free can accept.
but the Company's future must be show one case each of cerebro- in the future. The Goverment passages having been accorded to
Trusting you will give this kept in mind and safeguarded in spinal favor, enteric and diph attitude" is that it is undesirable the Wives of Captains, Chief matter your prompt attention. overy way. The action of the theria. The first-named was fatal that educational buildings shand Engineers. Chief Officers and
Guilds in circularizing our man be used for purposes, but, so far Second Engineers, the principle
asking if they are prepared to as we are aware, it has not indi-of free passages has now bean
support action to the uttermost cated wherein the undesirability extended to all grades and to lies. Now, it will, wa think, be{cover two Children (not exceed- admitted that the K.RA. is a fing 17 years of age each).
Pensions-The following scale body which is assisting the Correspondents are requested to observe the rule which requires Government, not obstructing it, now applies ~ them to forward their names and addresses with communications and on that very ground the addressed to the Editor, not necessarily for publication, but as an authorities, so far from putting
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HONGKONG, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 6, 1920.
ng after
years bene
Ch.cl Officers
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that one good turn deserves another. We can, of course, con- ceive types of meetings which it would be wholly undesirable to
To those actually domiciled and permit in any Government-owned resident in China after retirement building, but surely no school- Pensions will be paid at the follow-The room could be put to better use ing exchange-Half the Sterling out of school hours than that of amount at 19 to the Dollar, and facilitating and encouraging the other half at current rates practical interest in local affairs- but not exceeding to the Dollar.
GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC
question:
(Sd.) L. D'OLIVEYRA.
Secretary.
is as destructive to amicable
to be 逸
Teasonable limits, but reserve to ourselves the right to know when those limits have been reached.
are 12-
I think you will agree with me, working as it is unwarranted....
Owing to pressure on our space, the Gymkhana Notes and train gentlemen, that the tone of the letters in question leaves a good be dictated to by the Guilds as to avoidably held over until to
Further, we do not propose to ing times by "Wireless" deal to be desired in a dispute of whom we employ, where he is morrow. this nature, and further evidence employed, or that he must be a is forthcoming-of unwarranted member of the Guilds before he Matters Expands Linterference between employer and is employed, nor do we intend to employee in a letter addressed to dismiss from our service, as the the General Managers by the Guilds would have us do, any
A Chinese female, 17 years of Engineers Guild-taking excep- member of our floating staff, whoge, was yesterday knocked down tion to my action in discussing does not appen
by a motor cycle and side car in in a private meeting with our member of own man their future, as well Guild We are ready to meet the moved to the Government Civil Des Voeux Road. She waS TO- particular 203
following is the letter in the welfare of the men, within that of the Company- Guilds on all matters concerning Hospital
The Marine Engineers Guild of China Shanghai,
The firing of an extraordinarily Safe Navigation Bonas-Will,
Finally, so long as any member long string of crackers outside the be granted to Captains in the The Manager,
11th August, 1920. for members of the floating staff of Pacific Mail Company's Offi:18 Company's Service when in com-
the Indo-Chica Co. care to call at at 11 o'clock this morning. Indo-Chins S.S. Co.. mand, namely £40 per annum
the office of the Company to see announced the departure on leave After all, each case should be payable, when earned, quarterly Dear Sir.
Shanghai.
me or any of my successors, to of the energetic Agent, Mr. J. judged on its merits. and if at the rate of exchange of half at
discuss their own or the Com-Oram Sheppard for the United the Government believes, 8319, and half at current rates but which was held at the Office of der the right to see them, for in been worked into the fireworks, With reference to the meeting pany's welfare. I refuse to surren States. An ingenious device bad it professes to do, that this not exceeding - Effective from Messrs. Jardine Mathsson & Co., this manner alone can one assure which revealed itself at the end Association is doing a really 1st January 1920. useful work, it ought to remove Chief without delay the suspicion it has crease in pay granted on the la: Navigation Co. was invited, I am the Company and its employees, inscription: "Bon voyage and good Engineers-Theid-Staff of the Indo-Chins Steam makes for good feeling between number of paper discs bearing the Hengkong, to which the Floating the personal sympathy which of the string in the form of a created that there is anything January 1920, to Chief Engineers instructed to point out to you. (Applause). If any gentlemen has wishes for Mr. Sheppard." "andesirable" about these K.R.A. as per Circular issued on the 4th that this method of procedure in any remarks to make on this I meetings. When all is said and February, 1920, is made retro-dealing with any matter mbmit-shall be quite willing to answer dons, & Government school is a spective as from 1st January 1919. ted by the Guild was distinctly them. public building; in other words, Chief Engineers who entered contrary to Clause 1 of the it belongs to the public. For that their Sixth year of service in Agreemant
Mr. Hancock: Mr. Chairman. Six Chinese ware to-day charg reason, if the public wants to ase 1919 are
12th May entitled to par
1916. I gather from your remarks which led before Mr. G. N. Orme with it for a specife purpose (and the £45. 10. v. per month, and those
(Recognition of the Guild). AN APPEAL.
you have just read that, having being in possession of 550 rounds K.R.A. is the only representative who entered their Eleventh year important concessions
The fact that all the more regard to the present require of ammunition' and BEVER public body which. Kowloon of service in 1919 are entitled to affected only the older Members tonnage and very high capital launch yesterday.
offered ments of the Company and future bayonets which ware seized on a basl, then surely it We fear that up to date there has not been a very keen realis the duty of the Government to beginning their respective years of a general increase was ignored, increased cost of running ex-story given by the prisoners was is £43.0. v. per month from date of of the Guild, while the question expenditure, together with the Police arrasted the man, and the The Water stion on the part of Hongkong's foreign community of the serious-concede the demand. The of service. ness of the famine that is now bearing with great bardship on the Public Hall for Kowloon, and, in thus accruing will be paid the to, at which a threat of liquidation unable to mest the demands made to Hongkong in Government
K.R.A. urges the provision of a
taken in conjunction with the penses, it is the Chief Engineers having arrears privacy of the Meating referred Four Directors that they are down from the Bocca Tigris Forts opinion of to the effect that they camS many millions of Chinese in the northern provinces of Hosao. the meantime, that existing re-amount due to them on applica of the Company or change of flag by the floating staff, which would launch Chili and Shantung. But the appeal that has been made at Home by Bishop White, of Honan, who is Home for the Lambeth strictions on available buildings tion.
One of them was 15 Conference, and which was cabled out by Reuler yesterday, cannot be removed. It is on good ground Staff on Transfer or Waiting Members as a deliberate attack Company in the lean years which two of the other men were salt was made, is considered by the increase the fixed charges of the Army officer and be stated that have failed to interest many who were possibly ignorant before making that demand. In-Appointments. Suitable Hotel or on the solidarity of the Guild, we have before us. As & share merchants who were under his Just let us give one or two facts about the famine-facts that were cidentally, we would call the other accommodation will be inasmuch as it is an incentive to holder, I trust sincerely that your escort forwarded to us a short while ago by our own correspondent : Government's attention to the provided in accordance with the the older and senior men to vote apprehensions with regard to Army
to bring through the Peking. He told that the present disaster is greater than anything fact that at Home the Council rank of the person concerned, or against an resolution which has lean years may be falsified; on tion
linas. The smmuni- that bas occurred since 1857 and in the three provinces there is safter school bours even for party their option gran: the following vanerai increase, rather than to admit the:all indications at the the purpose of defence, should
always available failing this the Company will at for its object the pressing for a the other hand, I think I am bound by
Weapons seized area of no less than 90,000,000 square miles affected. The famine is due to long drought and the lack of adequate irrigation facilities-political meetings though the allowance matter that was referred to by Bishop White in bis appeal. The orators may damn with heart To Masters and Chief people affected number anything from 30,000,000 to 40,000,000 22d soul the very Goremment Engineers ...86 per day
about the population of the British Isles), and conservative
which nominally OWDS the To Lower Grades ...$5 per day estimates place the amount required to, provide adequate relief at
buildings. The educational
Yours faithfully, $200,000,000. These are large figures, which fail altogether to give authorities have no scruples a JARDINE MATHESON & CO., LTD. a proper idea. We are told that people are fighting death by eating to the character of the meeting:
General Managers leaves and the bark of trees and selling their daughters for a they
only too glad to Indo-China Steam Navigation hundred cash. Well might Bishop White dwell, in the words of from this source. Now, taking all secure a little additional revenue Reuter, on the horrors of the situation.
We made enquiries yesterday as to what was being done is the facts into consideration isn't replies Hongkong and we were glad to be informed that the Tung Wab. R. As body which is doing it a bit udreasonable to expect the Hospital (ever to the fore in well-doing) and the Chinese Chamber the very thing His Excellency of Commerce bave already collected and remitted $45,000 to the Famine International Relief Committee. Collections among the
wishes by offering practical advice, native community of the Colony are still going on, and it is hoped its future meetings? The plain
to make "other arrangements" for Messrs. Jardine that another goodly sum will yet be sent. But what are foreigners English in Hongkong doing? Publicly, nothing. These millions of starving Government is obstructing a very
Co., Ltd.. of that is that the
Agents, men and women are of the race with which we deal daily and it
Indo-China Steam Navigation Co rightly be said that they have a claim upon our sympathies insistence or real Red Tapeism.
healthy movement by unneČEJBLIJ
Co., Ltd, over and beyond the ordinary humane sympathies that would be engendered by the knowledge of disaster anywhere. In Shanghai and other northern ports quite a deal has been done to raise money;
Schools are
0JT
the International Relief Commission bas been organised with INTERPORT CRICKET. view to raising funds and having food properly distributed. Hong-
..
and
the Police were for
jeopardise their standing in the present time point to reduced any interference be met with Company and the consequent earnings and increased expen- from Kwangsi men. The salt realisationi of their partially diture, and I fully realise that merchants were defended by Mr. earned pensions.
the Directors STU unwilling Leo D'Almada, at the Police Court Yours faithfally.
in the present case to increase this morning, and the others (5d.) J. WATSON, the fixed charges of the Company Mr. Farebrother Mason.
Secretary.
when they may not be able to Whilst not disputing in any way Now, gentlemen, my decision meet them with any degree of their story, his Worship stated I will now read the Guilds to make these remarks to-day has ease in the future. especially that the law of the Colony which
not been taken lightly. Excep- as I gather from your remarks as forbids the possession of arms, The Marine Engineers' Guildtional circumstances warrant ex-to the nature of the demands without & permit must bo
Dear Sirs.
Co., Ltd.
19th
of China.. ceptional treatment, however, and made that they are not altogether observed. He fined the Army Shanghai. your Directors are of opinion that entirely justified. I appreciate officer $100 and discharged the August, 1920. both shareholders and the general very much, and I think we other defendanta. Matheson & public should know the position all do, the necessity that has and the probable consequences prompted you to put the position thereof
before the shareholders to-day and
I do not wish to appear unduly I am quite sure that my fellow considerably to these burdens. JI pessimistic, but at the same time shareholders will be agreeable to think, therefore, all shareholder, I wish you to fully realise that leave the matter in your hands.
ly threatening the future solvency
in
AT0 not
Shanghai.
with the information at their dis- with the Directors, to deal with and the Coating staff must realise latter of the 16th fast, it has given you to-day-your Directors in any way that you see fit for slow. I take it that the loyal With reference to your Circular Pasal-some of which I have it in the manner which you deem under these circumstances that owners naturally want to go been decided by the members of are of opinion that we have the future welfare of the Indo- It was good news that reached my Guild to accept the conces reached the end of our tether and China Steam Navigation Com-xious for its welfare, with the
servants kang could help in that merciful task and we fully believe that is yesterday to the effect that sions made, but with the follow.can give no more without serious-pany.-(Applause).
of the Company, would if its residents bad true idea of the appalling conditions that face millions of destitute people. At Home the Hongkong and Singapore bed accepted the in-ing modifications.
Mr. Lowe should like to will realise it and in this case. which own is largely bound up, Shanghai Banking Corporation is receiving subscriptions and Hongkong next month and that
vitation to send a cricket team to Pay.-30% increase for grades. of the Company. As mentioned make a few remarks on these put it to their Guilds that it is be done here? We earnestly suggest that the Committee of the visit coinciding with the presence six. forwarding them to China. Could not something of the same thing there is every prospect of the mouths in Sterling instead of from £66,000 to £243.000 during further pay for the floating staff. they have made. I approve of
9
demands by the Chamber of Commerce should issue an appeal and open a fund and in the Colony of the Shanghai
war years, the increase being due It seems to me that the Directors Guilds-1 am not against Guilds that there be some organisation of effort in order to make possible cricketers. If that happens, there Appointments-An allowance of the higher rate of exchange at what Mr. Johnstone says, the that we shareholders can vary
Staff on Transfer or Waiting to advances
have put the position very fully as Guilde; I happen to be i demonstration of Hongkong's wonted generosity. Hongkong bas
pay and and frankly before us and, from member of one myself. I think put ite band deeply into its pocket before and it would only should be a regular feast of good $6 for all grades.
which the accounts have been tbings for lovers of this glorious Complement of Engineers.-A converted, so that with the addi-
only paid and the Chiness, if it did so again.
living
safely leave the position in the wage but there is o tank for contenting itself with the issuing of a mandate, and the very best talent that the form you that the above terms in the increased prosperity of the It seems to me that the Directors make the meeting terminates.
Our northern correspondent has takes the Chinese Government ce that Hongkong should get all ships.
our men cannot say that they we shareholders, therefore, ought togather a team representative of I have been instructed to in-have not received their fair share to support the Directors' policy no-one else has any remarks to
matter. accuses the officials in Peking of indifference. He says that the Colony can provide. And in this are the minimum which can be Company during the last few are anxious about the future should like to thank both Mr. The Chairman---Gentlemen, if one great hope is that the foreign community in China, through the connection it would be of interest accepted; and if you feel you years. If wages and concessions Diplomatic Corps, will galvanise the Chinese Government into more to know with whom the selection cannot accede to them, I am to automatically Reflective action. True, the famine is the result of inefficient of the eleven will finally lie.request that you will kindly call earnings decreased, we conti especially in view of expected appréciation of, the remarka 1′′ Iministration. The much-needed irrigation scheme, mooted for The Hongkang ricket Club is the Adjustment Board into opera- regard the future with more recent shortage of freight. I said, they are rather out of the prospects of the Company Hancock and Mr. Lowe for their rews, has been shelved time and again because the authorities have apparently seeing to
new competition on top of the have just addressed to you. As been too busy quarrelling among themselves to attend to it. Whilst of the details, and at last night's Clause 1 of the Agreement of the don't, and, equally unfortunately have to face beary capital that the position must be put
some tion under the provisions of equanimity; unfortunately they Attering that note of censure we must not forget that even now meeting three names were men- 12th May, 1916.
addition to this, they way, but the Directors considde eatly 40,000,000 human beings are in dire want. Whilst putting tipped of gentlemen who are "to The blame where blame is due let us think of the unhappy victime look after the Team Selection pending now for so long, and has the position even more difficult its cost value. That
As this question has been arisen enormously, which maker which may not be, maintained at the general public so that they the cost of maintenance bar expenditure. at high prices fully before the shatebolders and the poor, honest people of the soil who have been driven into Committee." aparate straits through circumstances over which they had no con-
That is a trife become scute, I shall be obliged.com There is still plenty of time to help, though it has been rightly the selection of the Hongkong your very earliest.
we do frust that if you will let me have a reply. st view. No one can argue that a have further to face, it seems, rising, which trouble we do
a_ship-owners' point of abnormal depreciation.
means should know exactly where we vague, and
They stand in the event of troub that he who gives quickly gives twice. Is Hongkong coming
married man serving as Master heavier running expenditure, anticipates, Tihank you, gant d to belp? The Chinese of the Colony have done and still team will be left to no one man or
for a period of 11 years who can especially forains --- fu - #11806, men. doing what they can. To the foreign residents we say "It's even to two or three chosen by one you came in to help, too.
earu approximately Clab
$83,000 hestier costs in all directions. during that time, and who also Incrossed wages must add very
trengthen the bond of friendship between the business community game, Now, it is of first import fourth engineer to be carried on tional concessions since granted,}sgood margin for saving I think hands of the Directors in this
Yours faithfully, &
(84) J, WATSON,
Secretary,
diminished
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