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HONGKONG AND DAYLIGHT-SAVING,

THE HONGKONG TELEGRAPH. WEDNESDAY, APRIL 16; 1919.

of frequenting billiard and bars and other pastimes-{applause and Fier), - which he W&B would work f the

rooms cause so far as his own thought on indoor the subject wont be thought it would laugh- bo of general boneft to the Colony sure as a whole. It would be of beneft wall-in the summer time deċanse în the

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REJECTS THE SCHEME. being generally of the Colony hottest part of the year the offices

Majority of Two Against Altering the Clock.

In fact the only hardship he would commence their work at an could find from the point of view earlier period and he thought it was of recreation, if they adopted the

scheme all the year round, would common knowledge to all of them fall on that little band of enthusiat the best work was invariably asts who ran ponies in the train-done during the earliest part of the ing season; but they, he thought, day. And when the cable system be The proposal to recommend the such an important point could not chiefly consisted of the much ma- came normal once again they would Institution of daylight saving in possibly ba come to without call-ligned talpan who had no time arrive at the office under cooler com Hongkong was defeated yesterday ing a full meeting of the Chamber. sheet to sign when he arrived at ditions and deal with the more im- by a small majority at the special Daylight saving, in spite of serious the office. In ordinary times when portant part of the work which was meeting of the

Chamber of opposition at first, was, he believ the osbles were working normal-embodied in the cable work before Commerce called

to discussed, now popular at home and in 15-Heaven know whether that the real heat of the day set in. And the matter. Ibe resolution or Amerios, and he believed also in would ever come again he re when after a lengthy day in the of iginally proposed was as follows: Indis and other places, and per-membered that cables despatch-fee they were all jaded with the "That it is the desire of the|haps it was as well that they ed from Hongkong batween marchants of Hongkong that this should endeavour to decide once five and six invariably arrived heat of a very hot day, although it Colony adopt the Daylight Saving and for all whether it was worth at the London office of his firm imight be perfectly trus that it would System to the extent of one hour, while making any representations just too late in the evening to at- [be too early to exercise oring to the from 1st May next until 31th Sep to the Government in this respect tend to them and reply the same heat of the man, they would at any i tember next, and that the Govern-in the Colony. The resolution be evening, and the advancing of the rate cease for the most part the ac- ment be approached with a re-fore the meeting was in no way clock even to a small extent would tive operation of the brain under quest to introduce the system by the ontcome of the considered be very useful in that respect. Avery trying conditions. So much for putting forward the clock one opinion of the Committee. It was study of the hours of sunset and the summer. During the winter and hour at 12 midnight on 30th April." merely a resolution based on what sunrise showed that in Novemtuma, the advantage which would Although a compromise was aug had been adopted in Shanghai, pat ber the sun would rise if they add be gained by the fact that it would gested the opponents of the in-forward as a basis for discussion.ed thirty minutes to the present novation carried the day, and the They had had very shor: notice of time, at six minutes past seven In leave them sufficient time for open clock, on the decision reached. Shanghai's intentions and as the December at 7.25, in January at air exercise as opposed to indoor is to be left alone.

change there came into free on

736, February 7.25 and March 7.2 exercise had an enormous amount Hon. Mr S.H. Dodwell presided the twellth of this month it seemed Those were the wors: months of to be said for it, on the grounds that and there were present: Hon. Mr desirable that the meeting should the year. Official day, during the it would make the staffs of offices P. H. Holyoak, Hon. Mr. D. be held at the earliest possible war, he would remind them, com-and works more efficient He Landale, Mr A. O. Lang, Mr C. moment. The draf of the resolu-menced at about twelve minutes thought the Chairman bad already S. Gubbay, Mr E. V. D. Parr, Mrtion WAL possibly somewhat before sunrise, so that he presumed explained to them that the Commit J. A. Plummer and Me N. hurriedly made out. He had heard that about twelve minutes before tee itself was divided upon this sub- Stabb (Committee), Mr E. A. M. ¦ somé criticism of the use of the the times he had mentioned thereject and they had no desire to force Williams (Secretary). The firms word "mercbant.” To those of would be more or less daylight. represented were:

them who were not merchants and Sunset in May, adding thirty the resolution upon the meeting, far Mours J.M. Alves and Co. (Mr who did not look upon the use of minutes, would be at 7.16, in June from it. It was to invite the fullest J. M. Alveal, Arculli Bros. (Mr E the word as a compliment, he tea-7.38 July 7.41 and August 7.25, so discussion upon the whole subject el Arculli). Asiatic Petroleum Co., dered bis apology. (Laughter.) that dining at eight in the longest that it might be decided once and (Me N. L. Watson and Mr W. H, Although it might be des'r

months of the year they would for all whether it was wise to make Bell). Bradley and Co. Ltd. (Mrable in some respects to have the hardly be dining in daylight. In any change or cot and if so to what J. A Plummer). Butterfield and same time here as in Shanghai. fact he did not think they would extent. For that purpose he second- Swire (Mr R. Rose Thomson), he thought it would be a mis

be dining lin daylight. Ined the resolution. Canadian Pacific Oceso Services, take to adopt a similar measure if December sunset would be at Ltd (Mr J. H. Wallace). Canton it'

not suit Hongkong's 6.11,

Mr. Beavis opposed the resolution. ja January 6.29. Feb. Insurance Office, Ld. (M: D. G. amount daylight and ausshine, ruary 6.49 and Mate 7.3. If so far as it affected the summer M. Bernard), Cbias Sugar R-fia- because with the extra dayligh'it WA Br dirk man ap months, for one special reason, that ing Co., Ltd (Mr C. W. Beswick), they would get they would have proximately te minus after any alteration such as was suggest- Commercial Union Assurance to Ear in mind that a zo dal sunked he thought those times ed would in his mind be prejudicial Co, Lid Mr G. Dumbarton). of it would be accompanied by e nfirmed whis he had said, that possibly to the health and cer- Dodwell and Co, Ltd. (Hon. Me very hut su shine. Shangbait would just emble an÷door exertainly to the comfort and conven- would apper to have thought cise to be taken during theseience of the European children of that it was qui e immaterial months They had approached the Colony. He was in a position whether Hongkong was on the the Chinese Chamber of Com-

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read the correspondence.

The Chirmin read a letter cant t the Chi ese Chamber

small children. The summer months bore very hardly on the children. Their exercise was regulated by the

and Co. (M2 A. Q. Ling and was originally intended there only closing copy of the resolution heat of the day and they entered

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The Chairman pointed out that if Major Macdonald was supporting Mr. Bearis the latter thought the clock should only be moved on in the winter to which Major Mac donald's argument was opposed,

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Mr G. M. Lakin). Gilman and to alter their business hours And Co. Ltd. (dr W. L Pattanden, not their clocks, and therefore submit to the ureting and asking five or five o'clock. In order to get which it had been proposed to upon it usually at about a quarter to W. A. Hannibal and Co. (Mr J. he suggested that they should not for expressions of opinion if there a full night's rest they had to be in Robertson), Holland China Trad-allow Shanghai's independence in ing Company (Mr A. W. van this matter to warp their better the Chinese Chamber stated that was speaking, of course, of small were any adverse. The reply of bed between seven and eight. He Andel), Hongkong and China Gae judgment. (Applause.) As the meet-after considering the advantages children. It was difficult enough as Company, Limited (Mr G. P. ing was well aware the reasons for Curry). Hongkong Electric Com the Daylight Saving Bili which and disadvantages of the proposed it was to work in their recreation. pany, Ltd. (Mr F. Graham), was introduced at home were,

scheme, as well as the question of evening meal and homework in that Hongkong Mercantile Company, firstly, to save artificial light and, extending it to the winter months, time, and it was difficult to see how Limited (Mr R. H. Kotewall), secondly, to give the workers a

they unanimously decided to it could be dona when a quarter to Hongkong and Shanghai Banking longer period of recreation in the hodied in the

support the scheme Я3 еде Corporation(Mr N.J. Stabb). Hoogevening. The first reason could

resolution, viz. Eve became a quarter to six They that the clock be kong and Whampoa Dock Com- not be said to exist to any great

advanced would have to go to bed between pany, Ltd. (Mr R. M. Dyer), Jae- ex eat out here, although possibly

hour during the summer. seven and eight still, and they would dine Matheson and Co., Ltd. (Hon.it existed to some degree. The

Continuing, the Chairman said get up by the clock the next mor- Mr D. Landale). Java Chins second reason from the Hongkong that personally, while he thought nice at whatever the clock was set, Japan Lijo (Mr J. Jonckheer), point of view was by far the more

that the difference of one hour because the household would quite catch what was said. He was Lane Crawford and Co. (Mr R. L. important one. In fact be thought between the time here and in by the clock and they could not ex-

against putting the clock on at all. Bridger), Leigh and Orange (Mrit was the one they had mainly to Shanghai might be inconvenient,pect children to remain in bed for an He thought it would be quite against A. E. Griffen. and Mr W. Leask), consider in coming to a decision,

he did not think half an hour all extra half hour because they had lost the interests of the Colour. They Liverpool and London and Globe because exercise, outdoor exercise. found would matter very much, that time at night. It was no good had agreed to that 27 minutes years Insurance Co., Ltd. (Mr J. de B. and recreation in a climate such and he was sure that if the Gov. saggesting that the children could go ago to get into zone time to work Lancaster), W. R Loxley and Co. ae Hongkong's were particu ernment adopted anv recom to bed an hour later because they in with the railways. He thought (Kr B. Tennent), Mercantile Bank Isrly essential for the main mendation the Chamber might would continue to get up at the time they should keep to the zone time. of India, Ltd. (Mr E. L. Sim).

tenance of 6 nees and efficiency see fit to make, they would do they now gotur. In bathing parties in He moved as further amendment that Mestari and Co. (Mr J. H. Scot), in work (Applause) Daring the their utmost to get the neighbour

the summer the children could not the clock be not touched at all Macdonald and Company (Mr last few days he had carefullying porn to adopt a similar D Macdonald), Mr G. G. Maxon, studied all the available data in scheme. The Committee bad start out before about ball past four during the whole year. Nestle Angle Swiss Condensed the Colony, be had listened to the written to the Canton Briljah and they got home again just in time Milk Co. (Mr A. E. Coppin). Now views of staunch adherents of the Chamber of Commeres, but so turto get to bed within the time. I Zealand Insurance Co., Ltd. (Mr scheme and also to those of bitter had had no reply. He did not the clock were altered they would J. Stackhouse), Peninsular and opponents, and at the risk of ap. propose to put forward the resolu- have to come down from the Peak Orient! Steam Navigation Co. pearing to seek popularity by try. tion which was advertised, he had earlier and that would be a mat- (Mr E. V. D. Part), Honing to please both sides, he had to another relation to put before ter of grent discomfort. He Shanghai, time, because in the or Mr H E Pollock, IC, Reiss say that he had come to the can-them; but if any member or mem-

was sure there were some forty ordinary way there was very Ettle and Co. (Hon. Mr. P. H. Holyoak),clusion that a compromise wouldber of the Committer (the Com- Alex Ross and Co. (Mr D. K. suit them best. The extra hour mittee, he believed, were quite fifty children living on the Peak to to support the alteration. They had. Moss), 3. M. da Rocha and C. of sunshine in the summer months divided in their opinion. What say nothing about the children living not the same conditions here with (Mr J. M. da Rocha); Royal In- would undoubtedly mean start- be bad given was his own per

on the lower levels and therefore it regard to people with large stads Kurance Co. Ltd (Me B. Tennent), ing out in very hot sunshine for sonal ides on the subject)—if | was 1. matter that deserved aceding recreation as they had at E. D. Sassoon and Co. (Mr C. §. their recreation. An extra hour anyone would like to propose the sympathetic consideration. He pro. home and also the need for saving Gubbay), David Sassoon and Coin winter would be a great bless-original resolution as advertised posed as as amendment that the artificial light, and certainly as re- Ltd. (Mr E.Ezra), H.Skutt and Co. ing but it would mean that they he was of course at perfect liberty alteration of the clock should not gards industries here he did not (Mr G. E. Watton), De Sousa and would get up in the dark and the to do so. (Applause).

extend to the summer months. think it would be any advantage. Co. (Mr E. V. M. R. de Souss). docks and industrial concerns Mr. C. E. H. Beavis said that be- Standard Oil Co. of New York would start work in the dark dur-fore the original resolation was prstating that they had a very fairly daylight lasted Unless there wa

Majer D. MacDonald agreed, The sugar refineries and the docks SATURDAY,

worked night and day or as long as (Mr W.B. Walker), Stewart Bros. ing too long a period. But he be posed he wished to put forward a (Mr E. Ormiston), Union Trading lieved that if they split the differ

[divided day in the summer. Bothe consideration which might perhaps Go (Mr S. M. Churn and Mr Jnes and made is half an hour be put in the form of a further years ago the clock here was put with Shanghai he supported Major some advantage in keeping in line Barretto). Wilkinson and Oristall the year round it would amendment. He was opposed to the forward 7 minutes to bring Hong- Macdonald in the view that the (Mr C. E. H. Baavis) Harry be found in practic › that Wicking and Co.(MA. Forbes that would work out very well Chairman's resolution and also to kong into zone time with Peking clock should not be altered.

and at that time it was felt that The Secretary read the notice indeed. He had heard it argued the original resolution.

It was a convening the meeting. after in the Colony that they did not question of procedure but if his Hongkong lost a certain amount of which the Chairana opened the work by the clock, that they work amendment was first considered it daylight in the morning. If they put as Shanghai was concerned the two discussion at considerable length.ed as the ships and jobs turned up. might dispose of the whole matter, the clock on an hour they would find parts worked close together and it was an advantage to keep with each that they were interfering very meeting was not due to any sud-ganized concerns, and more so in vertised resolation, the Chairman Colony with the working classes. In because in the summer months they No one fising to propose the ad-seriously with the business of the other, as far as time was concerned, dea impa'se on the part of the the badly organised ones. if there proposed his amended resolution, an Committee to thrust a daylight were sny. He submitted that by follows: "That it is the desire of be loafing round for half an hour, the evening from the Shanghai the shipyards the employees would "would be practically cut off in saving scheme upon the Colony. far the larger proportion of the the Hongkong General Chamber of because having to start in the grey here would be o'clock there The matter was brought ap be- European population did pay some cause Bhangbai bad adopted a day. attention to the clock and that a Commerce that this Colony give a dawn they would not be able to see, and they would be unable to light saving scheme to the extent little longer evening daylight trial to the daylight saving system and they would loxf. around until of advancing the clock one hour, would benefit the majority, if not to the extent of half an hour from daylight. It was a very serious pro- get in touch with them by telegrams, the 12th all the days of the week at any int. May next to the 20th April, position and be thought it should: That might affect shartbrokers and April last and fisishing anrate on most of them. There would, that the Government bebe very carefully considered by the merchants to a certain extent beh the 30th. September. Certain also be the advantage in the sum appeached and requested to intre-Chamber before it was put to the thought the majority of humi jakariats approached the Commh-jmer of getting lo te to ask their opinion, staring and

the office doce the ersten by patting forward role. It was all very ine to say WE done in the morning. Half Starting work at 20 that for some institutions such as earlier and consequently cooler the clock half an hour at midnight that more could be done at 3 in the hour's difference would not matter

on 30th April."* the Banks it might be somewhat period of the day, while in the

morning than at 9, but if members very much. Inconvenient if there was such a winter months he estimated that Hon. Mr. P. H. Holyoak seconded, thought that, they could make their Major - Macdonald's. (amendment large difference in time between the extra half an hour would en- and in doing so said he must confess own time and attend at the office was then put to the meeting and bere and Shanghai. The Com. able the workers to engage in that he had a perfectly open mind on at 8 in the morning. For the work carried by *3 votes to 21. mittee felt that an opinion on some outdoor recreation instead! the matter. He had seconded it being classes it meant that they were The meeting then terminated.

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