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of Imperial polloy. We have been I have just read to you—I per- | accept this explanation. Fortune Continued from Pags 8)
asked by the Home Government sonally do not believe that any: ately this matter can be judged by for an expression of our opinion studied insult or even discourtesy: you all on its own merits, and I The Hon Sir Pant Chater: Mr as a guide to our representative was intended I take that view therefore leave it to you to show Chairman and Gentlemen, while at the forthcoming Imperial Con- the more readily as it seems to me by voting unanimously for the Field to none in my detestation ference. In giving forth such an incredible that the Governor, no resolution that you take except- and horror of the Germans and the opinion we must be careful not to matter how strongly he was option to the way in which this Cham- inspeak üble atrocities committed let our justly incensed hatred of posed to our views, would wish to ber, through its representative, ay that nation since the com- the atrocities committed by our mike such disparaging remarks was sligbited and its considered mencement of the War, at the enemies and our sentiment about the members of the com- opinion set af naught same time I cannot find myselfin for the sufferings imposed upon munity chosen by you for your With these remarks I second Banks accord with tha suggestion "that our fellow countrymed and committee; men who, whatever | the resolution (Loud applause). it is in the best interests of the Allies to obscure our sound and their qualifications, have been The Chairman; I am glad that Colony of Hongkong that persons well-considered judgment. Com- entrusted by their fellows with the burden of proposing or second- Cantous
German nationality should mon sense tells us that so soon as the management of business con- ing this resolution has not fallen North Chinas
*excluded therefrom for she is able to do so Germany will cerns controlling millions of dol- on my shoulders, the more sa be- Unions „au periodus of At least open up: trade throughout the lars, and who further, I submit, cause I was present and deeply Yangtszes" **IL 8X 79 3217
10 years following the declaration world and for us to attempt to bar have taken a very responsible interested in what took place. I FIRE INSURANCES.- of peace and that subsequently her, from trade with, or through part ia guiding those concerns voiced the resentment, which China Fires they be admitted into the Colony this Colony, without, as I have safely and successfully through can perfectly and clearly see H.K. Fires
$155 under strict licence," save and ex- already said, the aid and co-opera-the greatest orisis in the history felt deeply by all of you, in the
$330 capt under conditions which are. Ition of our neighbours would be of the world (Applause). And yet, Council directly after it had co- sm convinced, beyond the bound hopeless, and far from our beat gentlemen, what other inference curred, and I therefore propose to Douglases of practical politics, namely that interests as a Colony. Briefly, can one draw? I ask any of you leave it to the vote. This much is Steamboats the same stand be adopted ard then, while no one would be more if you can put any other construe- due to H.E. the Governor, and Izklos (Def.). maintained by all the Allies in the pleased than myself to see the tion on the words, to get up and that is that I should tell you that Infos (Pref.) Far East-France, Russia, Japan Germans excluded from this Col-let us have it. I would remind you be sent for me on Saturday and Shells
d, most particularly, China ony for the period suggested, it that the report of the proceedings in the course of the interview Ferries Given these conditions, then Lam can only ba successfully done, pro-in the Legislative. Council is again explained to me that he with you. Krcept under these vided we have the hearty stead-likely to be widely read, not only could not see how I or any one else conditions to exclude the Ger- fast co-operation of Chins and the in the Far East, and I think we could possibly place upon his Sugars mans from our Colony would be neighbouring countries and, Isng have to take into consideration the words the interpretation which Malaboos merely to drive them to neigh-gest, therefore, that there should construction that will be put upon we have done, and it is also. bouring trade centree, where, once be embodied in any recommenda- the report by that public which we due
to him to say that Kailans : established, they would prove ation of this nature forwarded to have also to consider, I therefore, he never intended such an Langkats erious menace to our welfare sad the Home Government such a feel very strongly, that if we do interpretation at all. But be that ' Raubs-*** trade-(No. No.)-not to mention proviso. (No! No! and some ap- not take exception to the words "as it may, gentlemen, when an ut-, Tronohs the loss of benefits to be derived plause.)
used by His Excellency we should terance is made by a public man, Urais a from the use of our Harbour by
The Hon. Mr. P. H. Holyoak; lose not only our self-respect, but be he Governor or politician, he their shipping, and of shipping As there are no more members of our right to be taken seriously must accept responsibilty. For the under their control...
the Chamber who wish to voice hereafter by any commercial body, spoken word (Applause) and in the ! their opinions on the resolution I and more particularly by the absence of a public withdrawal, as H. K. Wharyes saline $30 shall exercise my prerogative as Hongkong Government itself. public as his statement has been. Kowloon Docks sa.& 128 mover of the resolution to reply (Applause.) Gentlemen, with those made, we have no other course to, Shai Docks • 6.
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LANDS, HOTELS briefly to Sir Paul's remarks. Ifew remarks I beg to propose: "That adopt.
AND BUILDINGS. · have purposely avoided dealing the members of this Chamber de will put the resolution which has with the subject of shipping for sire to take. exception to been proposed by Mr Dodwell and Centrals places where they could (except the very reason that obviously the the words used by H. E. the seconded by Mr Ede. and unless China sides with us) action of this Colony and other Governor at the meeting of the i
H. K. Hotels No hand being raised against, Land Invest. on the resolution was declared to be H'phreys Est.. immediate neighbourhood. They ports of the Empire must go in Legislative must be as well known to you all separably with what the Allies Thursday, the 19th of April last, carried unanimously, amid ap-'loon Lands
decide to do, and we are not such in speaking to a resolution which plause. a to me, but I shall be only too fools as to fail to realise that if cught to convey to the Imperial The Chairman:
S'hai Lands Gentlemen, West Points pleased to give my views in-full to
the ports of France and Italy are Authorities the carefully reason. May I express before you leave your Committee if and when they
COTTON MILLS. wish. It has been argued that open to German shipping Hong-ed and unanimous opinion of the the appreciation of the Committee with no costing facilities on the ong must admit them to this part. Committee of this Chamber." (Ap of the Chamber in what amounts Ewo way German shipping will find a fear, which has been expressed,
to a vote of confidence in us. Kung Yiks. (A-voice: Of course). In reply to the plause).
Sir Paul Chater, at this stage, |(Applause). Believe me, the S'hai Cottons b. difficulty in reaching these distant that if such action were taken as rose and left the meeting.
work of the Committee of the Yangtszepoos waters, but can we for a moment has been suggested, even for a
b. Mr C. Montague Ede: I am Chamber and your repré- suppose that she will not find limited period, it would do us un-about to second the resolution. Mr sentative is by no means light.
MISCELLANEOUS. means to overcome this difficulty? told harm in trade with China and Dodwell has told you that in com and certainly could not be carried. Borneos What about the use of oil fuel in Japan, I trust before very longing to the conclusions at which on for one single moment without China Light & P. b. place of coal ? It would be easy Chins too will Lave entered the he has arrived, he has been in- the Committee and the represent. Providents enough for steamers using oil to
5ght against the
foes of fluenced only by the printed re- ative feeling that there was the Dairy Farms reach Dutch Porte in the East Inhumanity (hear, hear). If that be part or reports of the proceedings unanimous opinion of the Cham- Green Islands dies and there replenish their
economic of the Council on the 19th of this ber behind them (Applause.) the case, then the
H: K. Electrics stock for the further voyage to
Mr.Bell: May I ask where you HK Ice Co, reasons do not apply, because she month. He was not present in the China, Russian ports in the North will come equally into line with room and therefore cannot tall propose to forward these resolu. Ropes and Japan. That China has at the ourselves in deciding what shall you first hand what actually oc- moment broken off diplomatic re te done with German trade, and curred. I gentlemen, was there. Tations with Germany we all know, we shall be bound inseparably I was in the room during the and I trust that the day is not with her. (Bear, hear). So I think debate; I was in position far distant when she will be num- we need not seriously consider peculiarly favourable, as I faced bered amongst our Allies; but to that
H. E. The Governor and not only a part of imagine for a moment that when
ment against the principle of heard every word he said but noted peace is established abe will con-
inue to decline to trade with her merely presenting our views to particularly the inflections of his te to my mind absurd. I have read the home Government, which we voice, and I can assure you that have a right to have considered. the impression conveyed to my that the German Concessions at
With these few words I put the mind was that the slight on this Tientsin, Hankow and elsewhere
Chamber was intentional. I would resolution, unless there is an now being taken care of by China, amendment
to it. This re-specially call your attention to will eventually be handed back solution has been proposed by the following paragraph in Mr tta ber, aud We know Ger
myself and seconded by Hon. Mr Holyoak's speech:-- mans today are tolerated ard
C. E. Anton, Those in favour are” trading. în Shanghai. 1
Sir Paul Chater: All right.. A voice: Who wrote it?
deem it inexpedient that I should here mention in detail
so establish themselves in our
their hands.
the argu-
maintain then to exclude them will kindly show it by raising from this Colony only would There was a general reponse. be: suicidal policy. (No! No!) It may be said that we have got on Paul Chater raised his hand and At the request of "Against!" Sir very well and prospered without said Although singly, I put up *thêm during the war--granted--but
my hand."
shall we bot do so to a greater de- A voice: There is another, gree of their return? (No!) Nor do ; The second voter was Captain I think we have much to fear for Carter, who sat at the back of the our trade from their competition
room.
opponents.
for many years to come, particular: The Chairman: There are two ly, in view of the statement which has been put forward that they will have to compete without the banking and discount facilities in London which they formerly en- joyed
Voices: Speech! Speech! The Chairman: I think we may say that the resolution has been carried by an overwhelming maj srity.
Council held
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"Finally, I would remind you that the views I have endeavour ed, however incompetently, to set forth are unitedly shared and Chamber of Commerce, which, at endorsed by the Committee of the & recent meeting specially con-
voned to consider the whole mat- ter, unanimously adopted the identical motion on which I am addressing you. The composition of this Committee is so well known to your Excellency and this Coua- Foil that I am certain its carefully considered opinion will not fail to Carry the weight it deserves with the Secretary of State for the Colonies."
tions ?
The Chairman: Mr Bell, these resolutions, I take it, will be sent to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.
Mr Bell: May I suggest, Bir, that they should be sent to the Committee of the United Cham-, bers of Commerce at home?
The Chairman: That will be done, Mr Bell,
Mr A. Forbes proposed that a public mesting should be bold, be. cause he thought the matter ought to be publicly discussed. Es proposed that the meeting be held as early as possible.
Mr Loughlin seconded, saying it was most important that the should be seat home and not opinion of this Colony as a whole merely the voice of the Chamber
of Commerce.--
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The Chairman: I think I can'T/T ...... any that at an early data we will Demand endeavour to arrange a public 30 dis. meeting for you. Personally, I 60 dị g have been inundated with letters 4/2 13/16 telephone calls, etc; urging that T/T Shanghai....... Nom this meeting should be a public T/T Singapore meeting, but I had to tell them T/T Japan that this was a private meeting of T Indis the Chamber of Commerce and Demand, India In this His Excelleney the Gov- that other people could not vote if T/T Ban Francis- It will be within the memory of
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commendations of the Econ- familiar. At the conclusion of omie:Conference of the Allies re. the debate His Excellency said "garding the_commercial and in- "I have only one remark to make, {{dustrist: policy" to be adopted and that is that I don't think any throughout the Empire after the unprejudiced person would con. Wat, wrote, "Hongkong is essen- sider that the words I used in re- tially a great chipping port and ference to the deceased Sir Tho- trade emporium and as such can- mas Jackson and deceased Wil- not be dissociated fain the neigh-liam Keswick [Mr Holyoak : And ©bouringi Stats of China which in- others], can by any stretch of deed provides the most important imagination be construed into an feld for Hongkong enterprise. insult to the Hongkong General Whatever Imperial policy is Chamber of Commerce or its Ladopted for the future in the in- committee. I will now put terest of Hongkong provisión the motion." I personally wan must be made for its peculiar not present in the Council relationship with Chins, and no Chamber, but I have carefully messure should be taken which read the various reports of the de- ́would be Ifkely to be detrimental bate in our local prepis, and with ©to the further expansion of the im-; all due respect I way I cannot port and export trade with China, agree with His Excellendy (Ap: any Tariff Regulations should plause). To my mind, no uupra provide fur these circumstances." judiced person, could come to any i (Hear hear). All this goes to sup- other conclusion than that some): port my contention that without of His Excellency's "remarks, the support, and co-operation of to say the least, were lack- China any such suggestion as that ing in that courtesy which I think before us must prove futile this Chamber is entitled to receive säbi to our detriment. Gent from the Government." (Loud
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