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CHINESE FINANCE.

Mr. Crisp on the Loan.

THE HONGKONG TELEGRAPH, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 1912,

Table to dispose of the other. half of the loan at about 984. In tlint case they would be able to give China the balance of the 210,000,000 earlier than was The Daily Telegraph corre spondent in Peking says:-A still auticipated: If Sir John Jordun more powerful independent Lon-exerted his pressure upon the Chinese Government to pay the don banking combine has entered. the field and informed Ching that Boxer indemnity, amounting to £4,000,000, the Crisp group it was willing to consider reason- were prapared to pay. the able conversion schemes to any amount due under their onntract, amount. Inquiries confirm that that the total sum nected in the giving the Chinese Government enable them the money to next two years to set China com- pletely on her feet, excluding the discharge their obligations.

POST OFFICE.

MAILS ARRIVED TO-DAY. "Shanghai, 2.8. Lisan...

MAILS VIA SIBERIA..

Laft Lcolon

Out 23 Ooh, 27

"Dua Shanghel Nov. 9 Nor. 11 MAILS DUB. German, Pluzes alice, 15th fast. American, Shiuyo Mara. 16th inst. Amorban, Nikko Mara, 19th inst. American, Chigo Mars, 18th prox The 8. Prinzess Alice with the

SHIPPING NEWS.

ARRIVED.

Hongmob, Br, 8.8., 2,555, Dalabridge, 18th. Nor-Singapore 7th Nor, Gun Joo Teck Sing. Rajah, Ger. as., 1,276, C. Rosielsky, 18th Nov.-Wakamatsu 7th Nor,, Coul.--M. B. K. !! Huichow, Br. a.s., 4:217, G. Hooker, 7th 14th Nor-Tiöstein Nev., GedB. & 8. Linau Br.'ms; 1,832, C, O. Williams, 14th Nov.-Shanghai 10th Nor., Gro.-B. & 8. Dutch .s., 2,963, Krous, 14th Nor-Java 5th Nor., Goa.-J. O. J. L.'

Tjibodas,

WEATHER REPORT.

On the 14th at 11,55.—An antley. claus has formed over N. Chian had a depression over central Ja an.

Fressure is inclined to gire way over 8. Formosa and N. i uzon.

The monsoon il set in again along the E, const of Chian and fresher over the N. Chia Sen.

Hongkong Rainfall for the 24 hours ending at 10 am, today, 4.00 inches.

FORECAST FOR THE 24 HOURS ENDING AT NOON TO-MORROW.

DISTRICT,

Crisp loan, is £20,000,000. Half of (Hear, hear.) Further, if it could Germana Mail left Singaporo on Sunday | this is required to pay all foreign / be shown that China could redeem the 10th instant at 10 a.in and tuny, bo indebtedness, and the other half debt for, or otherwise properly expected to arrive here on Friday the Germania, Ger. 6.x, C. Tepson, 14th1 Hongkong and Nolgh-[

to establish a anivereal silver cur-apply in the course of a year, as 16th inst.

much as 20 millions, including

renoy with the Mexican standard.

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The .. Shiago Mam'i dne tol: what had been already issued, arrive here to-morrow with the American Mr. Birch Crisp's Statement-

they would be prepared to make Mail (and the Mail from Loados vis At a meeting of the Anglo further loan of £10,000,000. Siberis) of Saturday 26th October.

These Nikko Mar with the Russion Bank Mr. Charles Birch That might not mean an increase

for American Mall ex Siberia is expected Crispreferred to the Chiness Lorn, in China's indebtedness, He said he had spoken to influ existing obligations would be to are here on Tuesday the 19th inst.

MAILS CLOSE. ential members on the Opposition discharged, and certain sources of

Foochow Por side and to some sitting on the revenue now pledged would be Swalow, Auy and

Haioulsy, 15th Nov., 10 a Government side, and they told set free. Fle went on to say that

Shanghai, orth China, Ja- him that without the consent of

pan via Nagasaki,, United Mr. Redmond no question could

States, South Amoris 6. be raised in the House of

Onnada rin Vancouver (E- Commonė...

rupe in Siberia) -

- Por Empreis of Japa, 15th Nov., 6..

they had a pledge from the Chi- nese Minister stating that for the greater security of the recent loan certain sums from the revenue of

Siberian

Mail.

16th Nov, 11 că.

“10th Nov., 114,

Japan is, Yokohams-Per Yatehing. Philippine le'sad-Per Elcano, 161

Nov., SOON.

Philippine Islands-Por Long

16th Nor., 1. Macso-Per Sai Tai, 16th Nor.. 15

P.M.

Els folt bound to observe that the salt tax at the 'Chang-lo col- the Foreign Office, in this matter,lection would be paid into the was not dealing properly with the Tientsin branch of the Chartered people of England or with the Bank of India and China month Straits and Sourabaya-Por Chan-ong, House of Commons. Mr. Acland by month, and would be allowed "the Orisp to accumulate there to meet the had stated that Loan was opposed, beenuse, whilst service of the loan and the capital the negotiations were proceeding repayment. No one neol be with the Six-Power group, we did disturberi as to the security for not consider China free to borrow the loan. elsewhere. The negotiations

A Chinese State Bank. with the Six-Power group were

Finally, he said that part of Fornia ated on or about June 30,

their arrangement with the Chin Chumma was to day, and he 'sup- pusol aho would he in the ese Government was the constitu- fature, free, and she weretion of a Stats Bauk for Chino. free to-day that freedom was The bank is to be called the Bank little dino to the in- of China, the capital two millions tervention of his group. It was sterling, one half to be subscribed sought to bind China, it was by the Chinese Government, the sought to destroy her integrity, other half by, sny, five nations. sought to close the Open Door, This bank would deal with the but she was free to-day, because, complex question of Chinese on June 30, she told the repre-currency. It would have as its of thean bankere board aino directors, four to be

not a

sentatives

7tb

Nov.-Pabu Oupra.-S. & Co.

NETI

18th

bourhood

FORECAST.

N.E. winds, [moderate; fair.

Cangtah, Chi. e.s., 1,595, Stewart, 2 Formosa Changel N.E. gla

14th Nur-Canton Nov. Gen.-C. M. S. N.3 South, Qo.

Hichard, 11th Nov-Canton Kwongaany, Br. se, 1,428, W. J. 18th Nov., ead. & Co. 1 Chip Sling. Br. 3., 1,199, Mooney. 14th Nov.-ienten 8th Nov., Ga.J., M. & Co. Bangsang, B. s., 1,350, 8. Wilde. 14th Nov.Shanghai 10th Nov., Gen.-J., M, &Co. OLEARANCES

AT THE HARBOUR OFFICE. Nov. 13.

Nov, 14.

Kwongchauwan, for Kwaugehowan. Chonon, for Shanghai, Liaan.flor Canton. A. Apear, for Calcutts. Kwong Hung, for Canton. Thiro a,for Bat tra Kiren-maru, for Yokohama. Weihaiwel and Tionteio-Por Huichow Kwangsang, for Shanglini.

-16th Nov., & P.K.

Hanging, for Canton." Obion-Paruidow, for Canton. Shanghai and North

Liena, 16th Nov., 6 r,,- Snigos-I or Germanis, 16th Nov. 5 Slow-For Haiman, 17th Nov., 9 Amoy, and Formosa i

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Shanghai

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Tam-Pur Deigi-marn

17th Nov., 9 ANGU

Chins and and North Japan via Kobo-Per Nam- Bang, 18th Nor., 11 a..

II A.M.

Macao-Per.Sai Toi, 18th Nov., 1.16

P.M.

DEPARTED

Nov. 14.

Haitadal, for Haiphong. Liberia, Shanghai.

Kiokson-maru, for Miike. Michael Jsbon, for Mutions. Fakura-maru, for Wakamatsu. Glennak, for Yokohama. Singan, for Haiphong, Machow, for Singapore.

A. Apear, for Shanghai. Cheann, for Shanghai.

Titaro, for Banvil.

noakt of Chins between Hoog- kong and Lainook

The same a No. 1.-

uf.

The same as

4 South coast

China between

'kong & Hainan No. 1,

QUINA COAST METRONOLOGICAL

14th Novembar, a.m.

Stativa.

W'es bok Nemuro

anu

Hour.

Barometer.

Wind.

Hanidity.

Direction.

Foros.

7x30.13 14.48 NNE 3 o 620.95

K

Weather.

Liskodate

Tokio

29.87 2081

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Kochi

11

29.83

W 1

Nagasaki

21

30.03

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80.02

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Bonin It. Chofoo Whaimoi Bankow Kiokiang Shanghai

14

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15th Nov.

BATURDAY,

80th Novem

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80.01

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Legaspi

"rope via Blareilles (Letter from Jars :-

posted in all the Pillar Boxo Sander

Bacolod.

9日

Follo

Nov, rx.

Sandakan-For Mausaug. 18th Nov..

3.P.M.

tow, Amoy and Fooch ser

Haitan, 19th Nov., 10 A..

Shanghai, North Chias and Japan Fin

Boji, Victoris and Beittle

19th Per Inaba-mart, Nov, 10 A..

Mail.

Baigon, Straits, Cuylu

Adelaida, Western Australia. India, Aden, Egypt and Eu-

PASSENGERS ARRIVED, Por 3.0. Hatoho, arrived 14th inst., from Teutsen

Fo coy, laspro'or Phelips, Mr, and

Lockhart, Miss

Mrs. Walter, M'ss

Pero... Ligan, srived 14th inst. inst., from Shanghai - Beny, Cat.

nominated by the Powers that nominated by the Chiness Govern- Tintsin-Per Chipsling, 18th Nov Trocas, for Palembang. she would not submit to, their and five to be appointed by the terms. It was misleading the subscribers to the other half of House of Commons to suggest that the moiety of the capital. If the the negotiations were proceeding chairman were an Englishman Philip, ines falands-Par Zadro, 18th be that would suflicient to when China had definitely stated that she could noteomply with the guarantee to the rest of the world demands made upon her, and that that nothing would be done she would sock accommodation to shut the door against any legitimate form of enterprise elsewhere. The Six Powers no- minated certain banks to dent if England, Germany. Russia, with China. A meeting was helland America subscribed, and at Paris, and at the meeting some gach of the four appointed delegates put forward what he a director, with an Englishmion

chairman,

that should would call political pretensions.as,

rightly provide ample guarantees. Seeing Japan, if he wis

that the leading banks in the informed, ns a condition pre-

wore loagued cedent to China baing allowed countries named to raise money by way of n loan, together, how could they, it might stipulated that the reorganisation be asked, get subscriptions to new of loans? Some people were of of the military affairs China should be made over to opinion that the Six-Power com- Japan. What were the require- bination night not hold together, ments of Russia he did not know and in Ameries there were other at this moment. But the position houses, not perhaps quito so well known as those concerned in the of Russia towards China un-

Six-Power group, but nearly as doubtedly entitled Russia" to a considerable voice in matters powerful; in England, events Were 24 affecting her. It was quite under- had shown, there

the sen standable that Russia should ad- good fish in vance some views at such a time. had come out; they could, if He did not know what the Am-necessary, do without the Paris eriaana wanted, but those familiar market; they would have no with their methods would readily difficulty in coming to an arrange believe that they expected to tent with German institutions; obtain exclusive benefit of some then there were Felgium and kind.

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French

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90.06 65-

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For R.8. Garmania, arrived 14th inst., Ceba will be included in this cop from Palan- triot mail) (Lats Letter

Ungers 11.00a.m. to. Noon Extr Postage 10).—Pai Paul Lecit, 19th Nov., 11 ▲ ».

Por 8.5. Hangsing, arrive 14th inst.. from Shanghai

Stanton

Mong-For Sui Tai, 17th Nov, 1.15 Oubb

P.M.

Philippine Island For Kaitong,

10th Nov., 8 r H. Swatow-Par Haimus, 20th Nov., 10

Siberian

Mall

AX.

PASSENGERS DEPARTED.

Par B.8. Prinz Sigismund, sailed on

Muan, Miss. 12th inst, for Singapore, &o- Auld. J. D.

Noxions, Ed. Wị Shanghai, North China, Japan McKenzie, R.

Parker, Mrs. E. vis Nagasaki, Honolain, Ann, Miss Canada, United State Boujamin, Mr. L. Pigott, 8. O. Bad South America via Saa Bodino, Miss B. L.: Powers, J. F.. Francisco (Europe vin Siberia) Belilios, Mr. & Mr. Pastaraan, Copt

Randolph, H. F. -Pur Kores, 20th N Childa, S. E.

English, Miss E. Rozezban, Mr. Erlanger, 8. and Mrs. A. M. Ellis, O. Fall, Mr. and Mra,

Ch. G. Bensel. M.

XOOK.

1.

Holland, who would be glad to Macao-Per Sai Tai, 20th Nov., 115 subscribe. Japanese pretensions Public Opinion in China.

in Chine should not be encourag-Shanghai and North Chica-Fer

Ningpo, 21st Nov., 8 PM. When it became known what ed. Finally, he said, they were the Powers collectively were seek not prepared to submit to dists-Swatow, Amoy and Focchow-Fer ing public opinion in China be- tion from the Foreign Office, if came agitated, and Dr. Morrison the result were to exclude Eng- land from her proper place in the development of China.

told him personally that even Yuan Shih-kai would have been driven from office had ho sought to persuade the people to comply

with these demands. It ав Hsu Pao-shan's Disobedience. on account of these political pre- tensions, not because of the safe. It is reported that General Fisu guards which the banke wished Pao-shan at Yangchow, in the to import into their contracts Province of Kinngau, who assisted (as the Foreign Office would have the capture of Nanking last the publio believe), that further Dacomber for the Revolutionists, negotiations with the group were has refused to obey the command impossible. It was clear to him of President Yuan Shih-k'ni to and his friends that they were disband some of his twenty thou- free to enter into transactions sand troops. - with the Chinese Government,

Brigandege in China.

English

Mall.

Lam Ho-jin

Hai ang, 22nd Nov, 10 AM Lo, Mr. & Mrs. Strait, Burmaḥ, Caylon, de-

Van der

laide, We en Australia, In- Mosla, Dr.

dia, Aden, Keypt, und Europe

vis, Brindisi. (Lats Letters

20.91

20 88

. 29.87

20.88'34.-

T. F. CLAXTON, Director. Hongkong, Observatory, Nor, 14. 1 Binomaren, reduced to 32 degrees Fantenheit on the level of the sea. in inches, tenths and hundredths,

Capt. F. Sembil}

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flosgkong, 18th November, 1912.

3 TEMPERATURE, in the shade, in DOUGLAS

degrees Fahrenheit,

HUMIDITY, in percentage of satarae tion, the Humidity of air maturated with moisture being 100.

4 Direction of Wind, to two points. 6 Force of Wind, socording to Beaufort Scale,

6 State of Weather. b blue sky, e detached cloud, d drizzling rain, I fog, gloomy, h bail. I lightning, o over- cast, P passing showers, q equally, ain, snow, 's thunder, ▾ visibility, Rosenbaum

Mesara, L. Rdew (wet).

0 Rain in inches, tenths and bun- and Rylph

drediba.. Streat, Chan. T. Sabenschen

Viderap, Capt. Zellen, Mles K.

Per Prinz Eltel Friedrich, sailed

1 am. t noon, Extre on 13th fast, for Singapore, &c. :--

P stage 10 cents.) (Bupple Adrios, G. R. mentary mail on board up to Choung Gua th time fixed for a 1ature Chea Menb-pok

A.M.

Mrs

Lchoweke

Lan, Miss S. Low Khao Lem Beng-cheong of the mail (Extra Tostage Ohan, Mes. J. J. 10 cent) (Lettora posted Dorahn, W. H. Lia Ong-khee

Laonz, Mr. in all the Pillar Boxes in Fon; In-bok

Peterson, Mr. and timo for the Brat clearance Fanz In-how

Mr. will be included in this con- Fung Fuen-kow

Raven, Ö, tract mall.) Che Parel Fong Mo-nen Mail will be closed on Friday, Hancock, Mr. end-Bhuo Ha, Mirs.

Symingtoo, Mise the 22nd Nov, at 6 p. Mr. Sam

A. A. Per Asseye, 28rd Nov., 11 Kan Kow, Hr. and Stephenson, F. R.

Ip Show-sbau, Min.

Tolleson, A. Straits and India, in Caloutta Por Kam Faugai, Taylor, T. K. but when the issue was about to Three thousand brigands,

Fooking, 93rd Nor 11 1. Mru..

Tsai How-aang to be male the Foreign Office many of whom are armed, are

Toong Im-chas..... Wong, Mie. took the extreme step of seeking carrying on their operations in Shanghai and No th Ching-Poli Tim-non Worg Chemg

Aahai, 33rd Nors, & P..

bing, Mra. Leong Lcong-koon to influence public opinion again the neighbourhood of Chumatien at the loan.

and Saipinglu, in Houan. 1,500 traits, Burmal, Ceylon, Adela de

Luck Yang-hiu, Wo Pak-kan Western Au tralis. 'India'

Mre Their contract provided for troops from Chengohow and Sin

Aden, Egypt and Enrore vid China-to-have-within a year yangchow have been sent to ex-

Naples Per Yorck, 27th €10,000,000, and, to be candid, terminate them and there was a

Nov.. AM. they had not issued more than considerable amount of fighting one half of the loan because they on Sunday, and Monday. It is Philipios believed that for the other half reported says the National Rev they could obtain a much higher ow, that the brigande havo price matters the East burned fifteen villages and killed settled down to a regular fight hundreds of people. The train they would, he thought be service has not been interrupted:

A.ME.

Islands, Angade, Yap Friederich Wilhelmsbufen, Rabaul. Herbert hohe, Matupf, Australia, Tasmania And New Zealandd via Bris bane Fer Prinz Sigismund, Both NOT., & Mi

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Previous

Day On Data On Date

Barometer; 80.09 80.11 20.99.* Temperature 73 58 Hamidity Wind Direction Forsa Weather Rela

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