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Q-Have you always done it yourself?
A-Yes.
Q--Then you never go to the Department and get it made up by a clerk there?
A-No.
Q-Do you ever give a cumsha there to any clerk to make out your account for
A-No. I make it out myself. I give them no cumsha.
Q-Are all KANG ON's bills made out by you?
A-Yes.
Q-Have you not got an English partner just now?
A-No. I have no English partner, but I engaged an Englishman some time ago.
Q-He is manager then, I suppose?
A-Yes, simply manager.
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Q-Does he not make out any bills in English?
A—One or two.
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Q-You said just now that you made them all out?
A-I only engage the Englishman for a short time.
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Q-You must be very careful because you said KANG ON's bills were all inade out by yourself. Now, have not some of your bills been made out in the Public Works Department by a clerk there, just as a friendly favour?
A-I drafted out the bills and this Englishman, whom I engaged as manager lately, copied them.
Q-Never mind about the Englishman. Have you never, when you were busy, asked a clerk in the Public Works Department to help you?
A-No.
Q-If a bill is brought into the Public Works Department by a contractor, is it not very often incorrect ?
Are you not helped and put right by the clerks there?
A-No. It is like this. The engineer measures the work and writes it down on a piece of paper and shows it to me, and he asks me if it is correct and then we copy it. That is the usual practice.
Q—Practically then, your bill is made out first by the Public Works Department, and then you copy it?
A-For instance, a piece of work is completed. The engineer and myself both go together and measure the work, and then, after measuring the work, he asks me whe- ther his figures are correct or not. If so, well and good. It is simply a question of measurement and he compares with somebody.
The Chairman.-He says the engineer goes and measures the work and he also takes a note himself, and, if the engineer's measureinents agree with his, he sim- ply copies them and that is the basis of his bill.
By Mr. Shewan.-So you really make out your bill in collusion with some- body in the Public Works Department ?
A-There is no collusion about the matter.
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