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see it. Then I have to measure it out and make an estimate and, as I have said just now, I have to make out bills for the work when it is completed and make out estimates when required.
Q-How many assistants have you?
A-I have one European at present, and one coloured man. The inside district has two Europeans and one coloured man.
Q-How many assistants have you at present?
A-I have two at present, but I should have three. One European ran away three months ago.
Q—You talk about an inside district and an outside district; what do you mean by the inside district?
A-The inside extends from Bay View Hotel on the East to Kennedy Town on the West, and covers all Government buildings,, alterations, etc.
Q--And the outside ?
A-The outside is from Tsat-tsz-mui beyond Bay View, and works right round to Pokfulam on the Island. It also comprises Hunghom, Yaumati and Kowloon.
Q-In the inside district, how many men work under yon?
A-My staff is three men, for all the districts.
Q-And if you had this European whom you have not got just now, would your staff be sufficient?
A-Yes, quite sufficient, but not too many. I divide this inside district into two, one assistant starts at the Central Police Station and works East as far as Wong-nai- ch'ung, and the other takes from No. 3 Station and works his way West to the Civil Hospital and out to Kennedy Town Hospital.
Q-And what is the amount expended on an average in a year on maintenance of buildings?
A-I should say about $24,000 to $25,000 on an average. It might be less one year and more another.
Q—And with regard to the contractors who do the work, what is your means of checking them?
A-By my assistants, Sir. The contractor is supposed to send a representative or be there himself, and I measure to see that everything is right. A rule laid down in the schedule is that, if a contractor does not send a representative, he has to take the measurements made by me or my assistants. We measure it up together.
Q-And does Mr. TOOKER check the measurements?
A-I don't know about the measurements, he checks all my bills and my estimates.
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Q-But with regard to the measurements, does he check them?
A-I have known him take the detail books and go through them.
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Q-What was your experience before you joined the Public Works Department?
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A-I was a Sergeant in the Royal Engineers and had experience of buildings and fortifications.
Q--And, as a Sergeant of the Royal Engineers, I presume you had experience of prices and charges?
A-Yes.
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