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In your opinion, the Committee have carried out the spirit of the Ordinance ?— Yes; I have read the whole of the correspondence with Sir RICHARD MACDONNELL, and am well acquainted with the stipulations. The Chinese said if you are going to insist on treating the cases upon English principles you had better not call upon us to go on with the proposal to establish the Tung Wa Hospital and should content yourselves with extending the European hospital.
Ther you think the result of such a change would be the closing of the Hospital?— Yes, so far as the Chinese are concerned, but if you had a man diagnosing the cases under supervision, in the course of a few years, say five years or so, he would gain a larger experience than it is possible to obtain in the Nethersole or Alice Memorial Hospitals, and would become a very valuable man, and might then be allowed to become independent of European supervision. None of the young fellows hitherto trained in the Colony, however, are able to diagnose cases, and I dispute that any of the English students turned out of the Hospitals at home are able satisfactorily to diagnose many cases.
Dr. Họ KAI-That only comes by practice?—Yes.
THE PRESIDENT-What do you think of the attempt now being made in the College of Medicine for Chinese to educate the Chinese in Western medicine?—It is a very great gain, I think.
Do you think the attempt should be encouraged?-Most certainly, but at the same time I would call attention to the fact that the Nethersole Hospital and the Alice Memorial Hospital have never been overcrowded. There are plenty of spare beds in either of them. If the Chinese had shown symptoms of a desire to be treated according to Western methods then I should say the Tung Wa should have been abolished so long as the other hospitals were available to then for European treatment. But here you have two good hospitals under European management, and you have Chinese wards in the Government Civil Hospital, and you cannot fill them.`
What steps might usefully be taken to induce the Chinese so trained in European medicine to stay in the Colony and to gradually get rid of the so-called Chinese doctors in the Colony ?--I hear that the Chinese house surgeon of the Alice Memorial Hospital has a very good practice amongst the Chinese. I think it is very likely that none of these youngsters have been able to settle down here because there was not enough of practise to support them. They have had no backing to enable them to hold on.
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What steps should be taken to induce them to stay ?-They might get a sub sistence allowance from the Government. They might be given a trial to see if they could make a success of it.
What privileges might be given the one and what restraints might usefully be imposed on the others to promote gradual substitution ?-I think the men trained in European medical science might be subsidised by the Government, and they should be allowed as much private practice as they could get.
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have them recognised by Government as qualified to practise to a certain extent ?—Yes.
Dr. Ho KAI-Qualified to practise as native practitioners?--Yes.
THE PRESIDENT-Has the Tung Wa been kept clean and in a sanitary condition since your arrival in Hongkong in 18737-Fairly clean according to Chinese notions, but as I have told you, and as I showed you personally before I left on holiday, it was impossible with the cubicle arrangement, without creating great disturbance, to clean it properly. I have not been there since my return to the Colony.
You say that since your arrival in 1873 it was kept in a fairly clean and sanitary condition? Yes, and I think it was a great benefit. But you know that the granite
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