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The CHAIRMAN.-I take it that the Honourable Ho KAI wants to bring out that the squeezing is general.

Honourable Ho KAI (to witness).-When you are informed that the detectives in the Pó Léung Kuk are squeezing or taking bribes, do you not make any searching enquiry into the case?

A.-I have enquired.

Q.-Did you find anything tangible?

A.-No.

Q-In every case into which you have enquired you found nothing positive? A. Nothing positive.

Q.--Nothing that you could prove, that you could make a case before a Court? A.—That is so.

Q.--Referring to the case of CH'AN YUK-SHÜ,* he is employed in the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank?

A.--Yes.

Q. Is he here now?

A.--I cannot say.

He was here a short time ago.

Q.-The woman went by the name of .....

A. I do not know.

Q.-Do

Q. Do you know the blind man's name?

A.--No.

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Q-Do you know he is now singing along the streets?

A.-No.

Q.-Your information is that the Pó Léung Kuk made the woman pay $20 ? A. Yes.

Q.—You don't know whether this woman had been in the habit of paying the man $10 or $15 per month?

A. I don't know, but she could not have been paying that since the boy was keeping her, because his wages would not allow it.

Q.-About SIN MÚN; † you don't know him?

A. I heard a good deal about him as a notorious kidnapper.

Q-Can you give one or two cases that you know of positively about the detectives of the Pó Léụng Kuk taking bribes, or can you tell us anything about these detectives or Committee which is improper?

A.---I don't know which way you mean?

Q. I want some positive definite case, not a second hand case where you have merely been "informed."

A.--I give you these cases. You can satisfy yourself about their truth by calling the parties.

Q.--Do you know of your own knowledge of any single positive case against a detective of the Pó Léung Kuk, or a member of the Committee?

A.--I have never heard anything against the members of the Committee.

Q. I say any one connected with the Pó Léung Kuk, whether he is a detective or servant or anything else, one positive case of your own knowledge.

A.-I cannot give any case more than I have said. Two of them were before a Magistrate. The fact came out that the women were taken to the Pó Leung Kuk and detained there.

* See Appendix 22.

+ See Appendix 25.

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