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Q.--Do you know anything of its working?
A.-I do not know much about the internal working.
Q. Do you know that they have detectives?
A. Yes.
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Q-Are they of any assistance to you, to the Police ?
A.--Not to the Police, except in what they do towards detecting kidnapping cases. Q. Do you think that the duties they perform could be as efficiently performed by the Police?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. Do you think that at the present moment the Police are as vigilant in looking after kidnappers as they would be if there were no such Society in existence, having these detectives to do the work ?
A.--I do not think they are.
Q-That is to say that, if there were not these detectives, the Police would be more vigilant, and could do what the Pó Léung Kuk are doing now as efficiently, if not better, than they?
A.--I think that a great number of the Police look on the fact of there being these men to look after kidnapping cases as something which takes away the responsibility from themselves. They look upon it as if it was not a thing for them to interfere with.
Q. When the Pó Léung Kuk detectives arrest these kidnappers do you know what they do with them? Do they take them to the Magistracy at once?
A.-They take them to the Magistracy afterwards, but men are not always taken direct to the Police Station, not as soon as the arrest has been made.
Q.-Is the man first arrested and taken to the Pó Léung Kuk Society before he is taken to the charge room of the Police Station?
A. Sometimes, not always. Not in all cases.
Q.-Do you know of your own knowledge whether every case of an arrest of a kidnapper, or suspected kidnapper, is taken before the Magistrate?
A. That I could not say.
Q.-You don't know?
A. If they are charged they are brought before a Magistrate.
Q.-But do you know whether every suspected kidnapper is taken before a Magistrate ?
A.-I could not say.
Q. Can you give us any other information with regard to the Pó Léung Kuk Society? Do you know anything about its detectives? Are they a decent lot of fellows?
A. Well, of course, it is hard to say that. There is always a change going on, Very few remain long. Two or three years, I think, is the usual thing and, as far as I know, as far as I believe, most of them eventually got dismissed for squeezing or something in connection with women and children. The rest either neglected their duty in some gross way or squeezing-squeezing, generally, I believe.
Q.--Do you know how many changes have taken place?
A. Several, I should think about seven or eight.
Q.-These were dismissed for either neglect of duty or squeezing? A.-Nearly every case. There
may have been one or two who have resigned.
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