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Honourable Ho KAI-A report like that you would never think of publishing yourself?
A.-Never, it is a report that I would, if there is any occasion to submit it to the Governor, mark "confidential," and it is a report that no clerk in my office has seen, a report which I have only for my own information.
Honourable T. H. WHITEHEAD.-I think that the report would tend a good deal to throw light on the whole subject. We are groping in the dark and seeking for information and proper authorities.
Honourable Ho KAI.-I beg your pardon. I am not groping in the dark.
Honourable T. H. WHITEHEAD.—You have more experience of the subject than some other members of the Committee.
Honourable F. H. MAY.- I think that the report deals in the main with questions which do not concern this Committee at all. No doubt General GORDON could let us have an extract of the part referring to the Pó Léung Kuk.
Honourable T. H. WHITEHEAD.-Yes, we should like an extract.
Witness. It must not be published.
Honourable T, H. WHITEHEAD.-We won't publish it.
Witness.-In that case I will send it.
Honourable Ho KAI.—I am against all this sort of thing. If there is any charge of any kind let it be published and the name of the author.
The CHAIRMAN.-I do not think this Committee has any right to receive a docu- ment and not publish it-so, General GORDON, if the Committee receive this document it will be published.
Witness. Then I shall not produce it without orders from the Governor. Honourable Ho KAI.-We only want an extract, not the whole document. Honourable C. P. CHATER.--Without giving names.
Witness.-I will consider it but even if that only is to be published I should like the Governor's sanction first. If you like I will apply to the Governor and ask him to what extent I should produce it.
Honourable T. H. WHITEHEAD. We should be glad of it. There would be no objection to furnish the Governor with it.
A. The Governor is entitled to the report. If there were any action to be taken on it I should have sent it long ago.
Honourable T. H. WHITEHEAD.--Do you know whether the Pó Leung Kuk exercises any judicial powers?
A. They cannot; they have no judicial powers.
Q. As a matter of fact do you know whether they exercise police or judicial powers?
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A. I am told they arrest persons, and that, of course, is a Police power, but I haven't seen it myself.
Q. I would draw your attention to the proceedings which took place in the Police Court on November 24th last year. (Extract read.)
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A.--I was not here at the time, probably I do not know any thing about it.
Q.-There you see the Society exercises Police powers.
A.--I have read that. I have heard that they arrest persons but I do not know it as a fact of my own personal knowledge.
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