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Q-Who was it who said this?
A.-It was in ordinary conversation.
Q.-But who was it?
A.—Oh, I should not like to bring anyone in who talks in ordinary conversation.
Q.-But you see you have complained.
A.-I have complained about no one.
Q.-But you have signed your name to a complaint, I think you should help us
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all you can. Who was the person who was talking about what happened 15 years ago? I think you might tell us that.
A.-Well, I don't see that it would help you-15 years ago.
Q.-The CHAIRMAN.-But we think it would. We have our own line of inquiry, and we think it
very material.
A.-I must decline to bring in any person not connected with the department.
Q.-Could you not tell us some of the people?
A. I should not like.
Q.-We don't like sitting here to put these questions, but it is our duty, and it is your business to help us as far as you can.
A.-Well I have helped you as far as I can.
Q.-No; we ask who are the parties who say this?
A. That would not assist.
Q.-Well, but we say it would. We are the judges. Surely you can tell us some.
A.—I don't think it would be proper for me to say what an outsider said to me.
Hon. A. LISTER.-It cannot do him any harm.
The.CHAIRMAN.-You see the way the matter stands is this. Here are a number of the Officers of the department who complain that charges of corruption have been made against them. An inquiry is commenced to inquire into these charges, and these Officers come forward, and they say "charges are made against our department. They do allege corruption against us. We have heard such charges made. We decline to give you the names of the persons who made them.”
A.-I speak about a person talking about 15 years ago, and that, would not help this Commission.
Q.--The CHAIRMAN.-It might or it might not.
A.—I was here two years. It is about five years since I first landed in the Colo- ny, so I don't know anything about 15 years ago. I can speak for myself since I have been in it,
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