OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
ミ猭Ы穦某筁祘タΑ魁
Friday, 27 June 1997
せるら琍戳き
The Council met at Nine o'clock
と9タ穦某秨﹍
MEMBERS PRESENT
畊某
THE PRESIDENT
THE HONOURABLE ANDREW WONG WANG-FAT, O.B.E., J.P.
畊独Щ祇某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE ALLEN LEE PENG-FEI, C.B.E., J.P.
腜某C.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE MRS SELINA CHOW LIANG SHUK-YEE, O.B.E., J.P.
㏄辩睶┥某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LEE CHU-MING, Q.C., J.P.
琖皇某Q.C., J.P.
DR THE HONOURABLE DAVID LI KWOK-PO, O.B.E., LL.D. (CANTAB), J.P.
瓣腳某O.B.E., LL.D. (CANTAB), J.P.
THE HONOURABLE NGAI SHIU-KIT, O.B.E., J.P.
ぶ城某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE SZETO WAH
畕地某
THE HONOURABLE LAU WONG-FAT, O.B.E., J.P.
糂祇某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE EDWARD HO SING-TIN, O.B.E., J.P.
︙┯ぱ某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE RONALD JOSEPH ARCULLI, O.B.E., J.P.
甃ㄎ瞶某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE MRS MIRIAM LAU KIN-YEE, O.B.E., J.P.
糂胺祸某O.B.E., J.P.
DR THE HONOURABLE EDWARD LEONG CHE-HUNG, O.B.E., J.P.
辩醇翬某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE ALBERT CHAN WAI-YIP
朝岸穨某
THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG MAN-KWONG
眎ゅ某
THE HONOURABLE CHIM PUI-CHUNG
糕蚌┚某
THE HONOURABLE FREDERICK FUNG KIN-KEE
毒浪膀某
THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL HO MUN-KA
︙庇古某
DR THE HONOURABLE HUANG CHEN-YA, M.B.E.
独綺笽某M.B.E.
THE HONOURABLE EMILY LAU WAI-HING, J.P.
糂紌某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE LEE WING-TAT
ッ笷某
THE HONOURABLE ERIC LI KA-CHEUNG, O.B.E., J.P.
產不某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE FRED LI WAH-MING
地某
THE HONOURABLE HENRY TANG YING-YEN, J.P.
璣某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN
襖略ビ某
DR THE HONOURABLE PHILIP WONG YU-HONG
独﹜グ某
DR THE HONOURABLE YEUNG SUM
法此某
THE HONOURABLE HOWARD YOUNG, J.P.
法У地某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE ZACHARY WONG WAI-YIN
独岸藉某
THE HONOURABLE CHRISTINE LOH KUNG-WAI
嘲糠某
THE HONOURABLE JAMES TIEN PEI-CHUN, O.B.E., J.P.
バ玊某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE LEE CHEUK-YAN
某
THE HONOURABLE CHAN KAM-LAM
朝挪狶某
THE HONOURABLE CHAN WING-CHAN
朝篴篱某
THE HONOURABLE CHAN YUEN-HAN
朝胞糭某
THE HONOURABLE ANDREW CHENG KAR-FOO
綠產碔某
THE HONOURABLE PAUL CHENG MING-FUN, J.P.
綠癡某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE CHENG YIU-TONG
綠模磁某
DR THE HONOURABLE ANTHONY CHEUNG BING-LEUNG
眎▆某
THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG HON-CHUNG
眎簙┚某
THE HONOURABLE CHOY KAN-PUI, J.P.
讲蚌某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE DAVID CHU YU-LIN
Χギ棚某
THE HONOURABLE ALBERT HO CHUN-YAN
︙玊く某
THE HONOURABLE IP KWOK-HIM
腑瓣辆某
THE HONOURABLE LAU CHIN-SHEK, J.P.
糂ホ某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE AMBROSE LAU HON-CHUEN, J.P.
糂簙煌某J.P.
DR THE HONOURABLE LAW CHEUNG-KWOK
霉不瓣某
THE HONOURABLE LAW CHI-KWONG
霉璓某
THE HONOURABLE LEE KAI-MING
币某
THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG
辩模┚某
THE HONOURABLE BRUCE LIU SING-LEE
郭Θ某
THE HONOURABLE LO SUK-CHING
霉睲某
THE HONOURABLE MOK YING-FAN
馋莱某
THE HONOURABLE MARGARET NG
艷祸某
THE HONOURABLE NGAN KAM-CHUEN
肅繟某
THE HONOURABLE SIN CHUNG-KAI
虫ヲ昂某
THE HONOURABLE TSANG KIN-SHING
纯胺Θ某
DR THE HONOURABLE JOHN TSE WING-LING
谅ッ闹某
THE HONOURABLE MRS ELIZABETH WONG CHIEN CHI-LIEN, C.B.E., I.S.O., J.P.
独窥ㄤ军某C.B.E., I.S.O., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE LAWRENCE YUM SIN-LING
ヴ到圭某
PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING
畊そ戮
MR DOMINIC WONG SHING-WAH, O.B.E., J.P.
SECRETARY FOR HOUSING
┬独琍地ネO.B.E., J.P.
MR RAFAEL HUI SI-YAN, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES
癩竒ㄆ叭砛くネJ.P.
MR JOSEPH WONG WING-PING, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION AND MANPOWER
毙▅参膚ッキネJ.P.
MR PETER LAI HING-LING, C.B.E., J.P.
SECRETARY FOR SECURITY
玂兢紋圭ネC.B.E., J.P.
MR BOWEN LEUNG PO-WING, C.B.E., J.P.
SECRETARY FOR PLANNING, ENVIRONMENT AND LANDS
砏购吏挂現辩腳篴ネC.B.E., J.P.
MRS STELLA HUNG KWOK WAI-CHING, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS
現叭ふ尝磃睲J.P.
CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE
畊
MR RICKY FUNG CHOI-CHEUNG, J.P., SECRETARY GENERAL
毒更不ネJ.P.
MR LAW KAM-SANG, J.P., DEPUTY SECRETARY GENERAL
捌霉繟ネネJ.P.
MRS JUSTINA LAM CHENG BO-LING, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL
瞶狶綠腳
Resumption of Second Reading Debate on Bill
確兵ㄒ弄臛阶
SECURITY AND GUARDING SERVICES (AMENDMENT) (NO. 2) BILL 1997
1996玂の臔徖狝叭璹材2腹兵ㄒ
畊セЫ瞷確穦某и-
膥尿1997玂の臔矫狝叭璹材2腹兵ㄒぇ弄臛阶
朝挪狶某璓勉畊玂の臔徖狝叭兵ㄒパ﹚︓瞷–Ω讽セЫ某癚阶硂拜肈常ゲ礛璶竒筁近泵ゃ╯澈璶矗蔼恨瞶狝叭キ琌碞单璶ゴ瘆уρ逗窲㎡┪琌笹ㄏ-
ア穨㎝单毕蕾︽㎡
畊パセ翠碭ㄓ癶ヰ玂毁弧琌单箂и-
竒盽钡牟ㄇρ刁ぷㄤ琌妮ㄇ侣恏┪侣跋ぃぶ砆拜癶ヰネ常穦弧"莜暗舘"暗竒Θ炊霉膀糷カチ癶ヰ磷螟┮讽礛-
临匡拒烩稬痢侯穿筁沮牡叭矪礟酚篒︓せる戈陪ボ11窾烩Τ侣砛靡い61︓70烦Τ25 82570烦Τ10 624羆计だぇ︓ゼ烩Τフ眖穨计玥碞穦
畊きセЫ硄筁玂の臔徖狝叭兵ㄒ瘤礛甧砛65烦膥尿踞ヴ材摸玂虫糽Α讽и-
笵兵ㄒせるタΑネ翠眖ㄆぇいΤ10窾ゼ烩Τフ-
狦璶膥尿眖ㄆ碞璶ビ叫腨玂砛靡兵ㄒタΑネ玡и纯竒璶―翠┎盢ネら戳┑筐ㄏゼ烩Τフ眖穨Τ肝丁快瞶ビ叫綝翠┎┶荡翠┎┎琌種兵ㄒネ玡眏肚
兵ㄒネ︓さ1и-
Ω钡莉Τ闽щ禗珹Τ沟穝兵ㄒネ瞶パτ秆沟65烦ョΤ沟莉眔沟竨ノ常烩ぃ砛靡ョΤ沟计玡デ淮稬ㄆ竜︽痙Τ┏τ砆┶荡倒祇砛靡单ǎ兵ㄒネ稱璶秆∕拜肈ゼ莉眔秆∕
畊朝篴篱某兵ㄒ続ノㄇせせるら玡竒沮Τ兵ㄒ猭沟眖穨礚斗酚穝ㄒ传烩玂砛靡τ膥尿眖ㄆ摸恨瞶癸玂村弧某は癸兵ㄒ獺ンい眏秸兵ㄒス莉眔硄筁穦ㄏ翠┎ゴ阑竜矗蔼玂穨狝叭キЧフ禣и-
粄翠┎琌ē筁ㄤ龟τ琌礚乎ㄨ種пΡ兵ㄒ弘
癸翠┎瞷蹦ネだ顶琿传烩穝砛靡暗猭チ羛粄琌盢ゴ瘆玂臔徖眖穨逗窲丁祔崩筐酚翠┎瞷丁箂箂盢穦Τだぇ眖穨ア穨τㄏ-
镑硄筁砰浪琩翠虫糽Α╬加戮︗ョぃì硂у
畊は癸兵ㄒ某粄兵ㄒス莉眔硄筁盢穦恨瞶借礚猭矗蔼и-
粄琌筁踞紐刚稱稱瞷玂稬痢戈阀じる羱淮セぃ腀種щō︽穨┮翠┎粄玂の臔徖狝叭兵ㄒネ碞矗蔼借и稱琌碵薄腀"酵"猵и-
粄狝叭借㎝闹ぃ莱赣Θはゑ︙セЫ某よキ单诀穦は癸闹猍跌よ安砞ρ狝叭キ﹚畉㎡и-
粄璶痷タ矗蔼︽穨狝叭借ゲ斗眖硉瞷︽玂臔徖眖穨矗蔼戮蚌癡硂琌程ち龟︽暗猭
畊セ略朝勉や兵ㄒ
綠模磁某璓勉畊и竒盽穦┪籔ㄇね穦常穦拜-
ㄓネ︙ō砰胺眃︙и眔は莱琌"иρ⊿Τノ罢硈常⊿Τ眔暗"Τ钮硂ㄇ弧杠絋琌端稰и-
刚竤瞷沟赌兵ㄒセ⊿Τ玂毁-
"癶ヰ""癶ヰ"硂ㄢи琌ま腹тㄓ暗程ョぃт瞷兵ㄒ琌ぃ甧砛65烦硂ㄇ糷Αず讽矪瞶硂拜肈иЧ瞶秆讽璹ミ猭ㄒ種琌矗蔼ê︽穨狝叭借硂翴и琌Ч種琌讽и-
璹ミ猭ㄒи-
ョ璶稱稱璹ミ硂兵猭ㄒΤま璓场だネ┪戮穨逗窲砆ゴ瘆㎡и-
琌ゲ斗σ納ぃ琌и-
種矗蔼狝叭借狦続眔ㄤは璓ㄏ场だ逗窲砆ゴ瘆иぃ稱磅╯澈Τぶ┪Τぶねи-
穦硂ㄇщ禗猭ㄒネτ砆"緖辰"иぃ磅硂よи谋眔璹ミ硂ㄇ猭ㄒ莱泊琌瞶薄и-
矪瞶ㄇ拜肈璶臮よ┮孔"薄瞶猭"狦и-
矪瞶拜肈讽Τㄇ硂兵ㄒτ⊿Τ快猭ти︑谋眔癸硂竤琌礚薄礚竡硂琌иぃ钡
沟赌兵ㄒиЧぃΤ闹兵ゅ砏﹚琘ㄇぃ暗êㄇタタ玱玂の臔徖狝叭兵ㄒいΤ硂或㎡琌闹耕ㄇ狝叭借獽穦蔼ㄇ㎡琎ぱ朝胞糭某矗の闹琌ぃ单狝叭借ㄇ闹祔璝镑т︑粄┮の︙и-
ぃす砛-
硂妓暗㎡-
胺眃砛粄硂妓暗τρ馏腀種竨叫︙璶ノ猭ㄒ窽ゎぃ莉竨ノ㎡
琎ぱ糂胺祸某矗の狦и-
硄筁硂兵兵ㄒ礚好琌倒ㄇ兜疭舦и斗睲贰弧硂獶疭舦τ硂疭舦琌-
ぃ稱璶タ硂猭ㄒ硄筁逗窲砆ゴ瘆-
稰谋玡春臭阜辨镑莉矗ㄑ兜僚弧и-
矗璹兵ㄒヘ琌ㄏ瞷眖ㄆ硂摸眔酚臮タи-
耕Ν玡┮癚阶Τ闽獶璣羛ü洛拨穨ネê拜肈妓琌硂笵瞶┮и辨︗某σ納拜肈眖よσ納臮のㄇ┮孔癶ヰ琵-
镑Τ戮穨ㄏ-
寸筁边
谅谅畊
襖略ビ某璓勉畊糂胺祸某狡芠翴иぃ仑瓃и-
臛阶﹚璶膀瞶パのㄆ龟и谋眔иゲ斗莱琌ㄤ龟現┎莱赣璶量ㄇ種ǎぃ筁и谋眔и莱赣Τ砫ヴ﹚璶σ納êㄇカチ┮孔"逗窲"拜肈綠模磁某陪礛琌剪眡硂兵兵ㄒ朝胞糭某程ぶ簍勉ずΩ矗ㄆ龟狦65烦临踞ヴ虫糽Αи-
璶秆∕拜肈┪璶蝶︳拜肈碞琌材Τщ禗程兵ㄒネ-
砆秆沟и谋眔硂摸ㄆン﹚妮獶猭秆沟礚瞶秆沟或㎡兵ㄒ弧狦瞷琌65烦ㄆ龟糂胺祸某ê〆穦セゼ祇硄ゼ纯êㄇ璶传传ēぇ狦瞷Τ沟弧"ぃ才砏﹚"ê獽琌安琌岿琌ノ猭ㄒㄓ粇旧ね弧ê琌虑狦Τ璶ノ虑弧猭ㄒ︙はτи-
璶磅猭礚瞶秆沟瞶パは癸よ瘤礛猭ㄒ硄筁璶箂箂ぃ踞ヴ猵临璶蝶︳-
タ踞ヴ琌虫糽Α加Τㄢ狦タ踞ヴ琌虫糽Α加暗箂箂临膥尿暗狦ぃ琌虫糽Αê暗箂箂杠獽璶т虫糽Α加暗и-
璶蝶︳琌╯澈カ初ず穦瞷Τぶ虫糽Α加のぶぃ琌虫糽Α
瞷Τ闽虫糽Α砏﹚и斗ㄤ﹚竡痷約惗︓Τ谋眔筁約惗庢ㄒ弧び硂摸瞷て恨瞶恏ウ妓琌虫糽Α琌ㄤい徽竒琌虫糽Α狦恨瞶坝初ê獽ぃ琌虫糽Αê琌坝穨加材芠翴碞琌狦俱カ初ず虫糽ΑΤ璝计ヘ獶虫糽ΑΤ璝计ヘτ猭ㄒ龟琁杠玥箂箂ぇ穦祇ネ薄猵琌ρね癚基临基盢穦耕或-
镑踞ヴ虫糽Α加璶癘タ琎ぱΤ某朝胞糭某弧Τㄇ沟稱竨叫ρ產せ烦┪烦ρ┪耇ㄆ龟-
琌Ττ-
妮"薄и腀"薄猵羱筍︙ぃ琵-
踞ヴ㎡ㄆ龟虫糽Α加瞷タ竨ノ硂ㄇà竨琌Τ砫ヴみ-
笵︑闹ゼゲтㄤ┪Τ诀穦тㄤ-
Τ砫ヴみ籔︘矪ㄆ龟-
セ琌秤ヴΤ緇-
暗眔秨み獽膥尿暗Τㄇそ玱弧ぃ璶-
ǐêㄇ琌虑ㄤ龟猭ㄒぃ琌硂妓и-
璶酚ê猭ㄒ弘の猭ㄒ兵ゅ瞷糶猭ㄓ癚阶и-
ぃ镑弧Τ砆秆沟獽﹚琌65烦ぃ弧65烦硂妓ρ獽⊿Τ某穦ず臛阶ぃ镑ノ硂妓虏虫呸胯硂穦丁粇穦и-
⊿快猭
ㄆ龟セЫ某筁┮Τ兵ゅぇㄤ龟Τンㄆ璶︳璸碞琌虫糽Α加Чぃìêㄇ65烦璶癘狦и-
弧ぃìㄆ龟琌睼璸衡或狦闹65烦τ烩礟酚杠硂摸踞ヴ坝穨穨┪ㄤよ璶癘淮ぃ﹚Τ▆狦皑皑甧獽莱盢秆沟璝ぃ荷┚戮临菏︑祍杠︓莱穦砆氨礟璝琌淮癚基临基穦蔼ㄇ璝荷砫ヴ暗临Τ诀穦匡拒虫糽Α┪獶虫糽Α┮狦獶虫糽Αêㄇ加ぃ镑竨叫65烦琌基窥筁ㄇ耕蔼基窥ㄆ龟ま耕淮锣暗獶虫糽Α︑礛痙琵ㄤ耕干┮安砞翠硂よΤ10窾戮︗珹虫糽Α籔獶虫糽Ατ眖穨埂㎝篈玥埃獶翠ア穨瞯秈˙碿て秈˙粿糤璓65烦セぃ琌暗常穖硂カ初硂獽螟弧ぃ筁硂琌
璶癘瞷兵ㄒタ綠模磁某┮弧ぃミゴ瘆逗窲ㄆ龟瞷薄猵琌猭ㄒ璶箂箂龟琁临Τㄏ70烦硄筁喷ō临琌踞ヴиぃ︙穦弧ゴ瘆ね逗窲狦Τゴ瘆逗窲ㄆ薄祇ネêㄇセ琌笻猭︽琌Τ虑ㄓ秆沟硂ㄇね
и谋眔и-
璶矪瞶琌狦и-
痷璶矗ㄑ僚и-
僚︓︙㎡程﹙種琌パǖ琩ň废ぃ单ま璓ㄆ龟狦琌虫糽Α加璶癸┮孔絛瞅琌Τ璝璶絛瞅ずǖ跌╯澈и-
琌璶眖玂àㄓ琌и-
倒琿硂或丁常ご礛ぃ筁寸临琌и-
痷璶单┮Τ硂ㄇ莉僚场κ耴ρρ龟弧иぃ︑︙穦ぃ﹚琌ρǐ˙硂琌螟弧┮и谋眔猭ㄒぃ镑硂妓礚ゎ挂╈┑ㄆ龟瞷и-
倒ぉ糴肞丁ㄓ筁寸и耞︓箂箂睼璸衡カ初莱Τì镑戮︗倒65烦踞ヴ虫糽Α加临Τ瞷Τ︘祇甶璸购秨﹍秈︽ㄏ┮Τ﹡常琌虫糽Α瞷現┎硂よ砍禫ㄓ禫ㄏ盢ㄓそ扳ぇ计ぇ痷Τ硂璸购杠硂﹚竡ず穦跑Θ琌虫糽Α硂薄猵иぃ"ゴ瘆逗窲"硂阶沮︙镑Θミи-
癸硂拜肈ョ候и-
チ囊觅Θ玂毁骋猭ㄒ硂拜肈и-
﹚粄痷σ納狦痷Τ硂拜肈杠и圭腀盢硂好翴痲耴êㄇρ矗蔼玂狝叭借ㄆ龟и-
竒筁冈灿σ納тぃ硂妓阶沮の硂妓Τ瞶Τ沮ぇ︳璸
谅谅畊
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SECRETARY FOR SECURITY: Mr President, let me first state clearly the Administration's position on this Bill. The Administration strongly opposes the Bill as it would nullify all the efforts that have been made so far under the Security and Guarding Services Ordinance to improve the standard of the security industry. We wish to improve the standard of the security industry, not just for its own self but for the better good. It would help us to fight against crime in the community.
The enactment of such a Bill would create serious confusion and enforcement problems by creating a dual standard for security personnel double standards while the so-called "existing security workers", which refer broadly to watchmen's permit holders employed before 1 June 1996 under the Bill, are put completely beyond the current regulatory framework. Those employed after that date are subject to control of the existing law. Why are we proposing such discriminations?
Worse still, the Bill does not solve the alleged problem of unfair dismissal of aged security workers. Clearly, it is not in the public interest to enact this Bill. In broad terms, the Bills seeks to exempt "existing security workers" from the requirement to apply for security personnel permits under the Security and Guarding Services Ordinance, which came into effect on 1 June 1996 and which replaced the Watchman Ordinance, the only legislation governing the security industry then.
Under the Ordinance, an independent Security and Guarding Services Industry Authority was established to issue licences to security companies and determine the criteria for issuing permits to security personnel. Applicants must be fit and proper persons. In addition, adequate training has to be provided by companies for security personnel to ensure that they would perform their duties competently.
We understand that one of the reasons for the Honourable CHAN Wing-chan to introduce the Bill is that there have been cases where security personnel over the age of 65 were dismissed by their employers on the alleged ground of compliance with the age requirement of the Ordinance. I must emphasize that there are already provisions built into the Ordinance to facilitate the continuous employment of security personnel over the age of 65 in line with the criteria approved by this Council in July 1995 for issuing security personnel permits. Those over the age of 65 can apply for a Category A permit and work in single, private residential buildings, that is to say, buildings with one main access point and used substantially for residential purposes. This covers a large number of residential buildings in Hong Kong. There is no upper age limit for security personnel working in this type of building.
Some Members of this Council have expressed concern that employment opportunities for the elderly watchmen would still be very limited. It appears that they may have some misunderstanding about the definition of "single, private
residential buildings". I would therefore like to draw Honourable Members' attention to the definition which we have spelt out in a public notice. A single, private residential building is defined as an independent structure that is covered
by a roof and enclosed by walls extending from the foundations to the roof which is used substantially for private residential purpose and has only one main access point.
There is no limit on the number of households that these buildings may house, but the requirement of one main access point would ensure that these buildings can be adequately guarded by elderly watchmen. This definition applies even to individual blocks of large housing complexes.
Some Members of this Council also expressed concern about the upper age limit of 65 for a Category B licence, that is to say, guarding work for all, I repeat, all, types of premises and properties. These cover not just residential premises. I trust Honourable Members would bear in mind that the purpose of the Ordinance is to improve the standard of security services which the public are entitled to expect. Security work under Category B is very diverse. It covers all types of guarding work such as that in large commercial premises, complexes, hotels, banks, shopping arcades, industrial buildings, goldsmith's shops, and so on. Security personnel engaging in this type of work generally require greater alertness, vigilance and physical fitness than security personnel working in single, private residential buildings. An upper age limit for Category B work is therefore necessary in order to ensure that these security guards are capable of carrying out their duties.
Section 33 of the Ordinance further provides a transitional arrangement to buffer any immediate impact on the employment opportunities of aged security personnel. Irrespective of age, holders of Watchmen's Permits issued under the defunct Watchmen Ordinance can continue their service in all, I repeat, all types
of buildings until they receive notice from the Authority to change their Watchmen's Permit into Security Personnel Permits. The intention is to empower the Authority to bring the Watchmen's Permit holders into the regulatory framework of the Ordinance by phases with a view to improving the standard of service in the security industry. The Watchmen's Permits replacement exercise, which starts from young to old, commenced last month and will take about five years to complete.
The Administration has publicized the Ordinance, in particular the transitional arrangements, through television and radio broadcasting. The Authority has also emphasized this arrangement in the media and at its meetings with trade associations as well as trade unions, for which I understood there had been many. In conducting its public hearing on applications for licences, the Authority again reminds the companies of the above. The Commissioner for Labour had also issued letters drawing the attention of employers to this arrangement.
It would, therefore, appear that if allegations of dismissal on grounds of age requirement does exist it is because a small number of employers have either mistakenly or deliberately misinterpreted the Ordinance. Exempting existing security workers from the licensing requirement as proposed in the Bill will not solve the problem since those employers would use other excuses. We believe the appropriate way to tackle problems of abuse is to contact the Labour Department to provide conciliation and employment services to those security workers dismissed.
Mr President, I would finally like to respond to a point made by the Honourable Miss CHAN Yuen-han in her speech last night. I am not an impassioned speaker, as Miss CHAN Yuen-han is, so I will have to respond in a more measured manner.
Miss CHAN Yuen-han and one or two other Honourable Members have accused us or the Bill, of the setting of an age limit of age discrimination. I confess I am not an expert human rights lawyer, so I can only comment from the layman's point of view. It appears to me that they might have confused between differentiation by age and discrimination by age. Differential treatment does not does not equal discrimination. Much depends on whether the differential treatment is reasonable, proportional and demonstrably in the public interest. Our scheme, our Bill, does not deprive elderly watchmen of a means of livelihood, as I have explained in my speech, and as the Honourable Mrs Miriam LAU explained in her speech in greater detail very clearly.
The age of 65 is an age which, broadly speaking, is generally accepted by the community as an age where the physical, mental alertness and other reasons does give us the conclusion that perhaps it is a kind of general retirement age. Of course, you can argue that the fairest means is to test any worker individually to see whether he can actually do the work, and that would be and should be the sole criteria. But if we want to argue that point to its logical conclusion it means, for example, that there should be no general age of retirement. In fact, incidentally, the retirement age, compulsory retirement age for the Civil Service is 60. The compulsory retirement age for the disciplined services rank and file, which although I am not drawing any equivalent, does at least bear a degree of similarity to the demands of some of the more difficult security guard jobs. The compulsory retirement age for disciplined services officers is 57. Are we saying that those compulsory retirement ages are discriminatory on age grounds? Look at the broader perspective. There are statutory and sometimes not statutory provisions governing a variety of conditions of treatment, some of those depending on age. The age of majority is an obvious one. You can argue that why do we set the age of marriage without parental consent at 21? Why cannot the person who is 20 be allowed to be tested for his suitability to get married, instead of setting a common age of marriage without parental consent?
So, setting an age at which different treatment is given or is mandated is not, in my view, although as I said I am layman, discrimination by age. I repeat, is it judged to be reasonable and proportional? Secondly, is it demonstrably in the public good? I should remind Honourable Members that the purpose of upgrading the standard of service of the security industry is to achieve, amongst other things, better protection of the life and property of the community by upgrading the standard of service of the security industry.
Honourable Members will recall, although thank heavens, it does not occur so very often now, several years ago the amount of public concern on crimes committed inside residential buildings or inside commercial buildings, the rapes, the robberies, with guns, without guns, with knives, with everything. If we do not have a decent and up-to-the-standard security service industry in Hong Kong, how are we going to improve the public's protection against heinous crimes of the sort I mentioned? So, demonstrably, this Ordinance is in the public interest.
Nonetheless, I do not believe that either the Government or the Security and Guarding Services Industry Authority have their mind completely closed. I believe the Security and Guarding Services Industry Authority will soon embark on planning for a review of all the criteria associated with the issue of licences and permits. We will certainly take account of the general community's views, views of the industry, views even of trade unions and those who are engaged in security work themselves in that review. But such a review will take time to take account of all the relevant factors.
The Honourable CHAN Wing-Chan's Bill is hasty, does not take account of all the concerns and certainly not the concerns of the community as a whole. It has not been deliberated, examined and studied in detail by this Council. I urge Honourable Members to vote against such a hasty Bill which is demonstrably not in the public interest.
Thank you, Mr President.
PRESIDENT: That was a rather impassioned speech too.
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礛闽︙快暴Τт秨硂ぃ琌硂或甧琌惠璶某矗兵兵ㄒパ︗某ノ荷快ㄆ薄腊硂ㄇ洛拨穨ネêㄇタ弄厩ネㄓσ刚琖皇某穘繷弧ㄆ薄ぃ琌琌硂種矗琖皇某и稱癬废そ渤徖ネ兵ㄒ锣浹阶セだ尺舧钮ê碞琌и礹璚э跑︑ㄇ玥や辩醇翬某êΤ闽約タи钮碞琌и辨琖皇某弧筂и尺舧钮弧杠锣锣浹やи硂兵兵ㄒ琎边边逗и村弧霉璓某やセ霉璓某獶盽瞡еよ弧"篱и癳硂︗倒"и弧"谅""иチ囊某穦щ布""谅"ê琌弧硂薄猵琌村弧ΤㄇΘи獶盽稰谅チ囊やセㄤ龟猍跌籔產みいΤ计иぃ╉琌褐籔舦產莱ㄇ產弧ρ產褐糤300じ侯穿㊣羘綺ぱ產琌璓⊿Τ钵某瞷碞弧叫癶ヰ65烦癶ヰ安Τ癶ヰ街穦暗街临穦暗やじτ12虏琌Μ禦㏑褐籔舦ぇ丁и辨產ρ產ㄇ舦
谅谅畊
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill put.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Noes" had it.
畊ボ
Mr CHAN Wing-chan claimed a division.
朝篴篱某璶―翴∕
PRESIDENT: Council shall proceed to a division.
畊略矗眶︗某瞷窖∕ぇ某肈朝篴篱某ぇ1997玂の臔矫狝叭璹材2腹兵ㄒぉ弄
叫︗某∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
畊叫︗癸┮ぇ∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Mr MOK Ying-fan and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Eric LI, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr Philip WONG, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr WONG Wai-Yin, Miss Christine LOH, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Miss Margaret NG, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 20 votes in favour of the motion and 30 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was negatived.
畊ガ觅Θ某20は癸30琌ガ某綝∕
畊パ1997玂の臔矫狝叭璹材2腹兵ㄒぇ弄某ぃ莉∕セЫぃ穦碞赣兵ㄒ秈︽秈˙ぇ某ㄆ祘
Resumption of Second Reading Debate on Bill
確兵ㄒ弄臛阶
PROTECTION OF THE HARBOUR BILL
玂臔翠兵ㄒ
Resumption of debate on Second Reading which was moved on 4 December 1996
確せるら笆某弄臛阶
朝岸穨某璓勉畊セ略玂臔翠兵ㄒ〆穦畊ōだ朝勉︗某厨兵ㄒ〆穦坝某虑诀穦纯竒碞セ兵ㄒ矗ユ種ǎ刮砰璓谅
玂臔翠兵ㄒ琌嘲糠某矗某兵ㄒヘ琌玂臔蝴ㄈ翠筁秖恶祘紇臫兵ㄒ砞﹚ぃ翠ず秈︽恶祘崩﹚砏﹚硂摸恶祘ゲ斗眔ミ猭Ыу
兵ㄒ璶Ξ兵ㄒ材3の材4兵兵ㄒ材3兵璹蝴ㄈ翠翠疭そΤ戈玻のぱ礛癩玻阀珹玥砞﹚ぃ蝴ㄈ翠秈︽恶祘崩﹚そ戮のㄤ恨讽Ыゲ斗臮の硂兜玥兵ㄒ材4兵砏﹚埃獶眔セЫу玥窽ゎ秈︽ヴ︙翠恶祘ㄢ兵兵ゅ–兵常縒ミ硄筁ㄏ兵ㄒ材4兵ぃ莉硄筁材3兵竒﹚Θ猭ㄒごΤそ戮の┮Τ猭﹚诀篶琁砫ヴㄏ-
∕﹚玡ゲ斗σ納恶祘ㄤよ璝そ恨讽Ыぃ瞶穦硂兜崩﹚蒥チ琘ㄇ薄猵碝―猭滦兵ㄒ材4兵ㄣΤ舅よ紇臫碞琌セЫ埃糹︽菏诡そ癩現琂Τ戮Ω莉甭ぉ舦ㄣ砰у讽Ы硂兜兵ゅ癸戈方ョΤ紇臫ミ猭Ы斗ㄤ砰ず璹ミ龟琁硂兜兵ゅ┮惠祘獽р┮惠竒喷の盡穨醚莱ノミ猭ЫΤ舦∕﹚恶ㄆ﹜兵ㄒ材3の材4兵常莉眔硄筁セЫ硂よ蹦︽笆猭滦
讽Ыは癸兵ㄒ粄兵ㄒ礚ゲ璶琌瞷︽蒥砏购筁祘琂そ秨ョㄣ硓ㄤい珹そ渤吭高祘現┎讽Ы猭琌兵ㄒр疉の翠恶祘砏购のノ硚祇甶砫ヴパ︽現诀闽锣簿倒ミ猭诀闽耑睹ㄢヘ玡砫ヴだ現┎讽Ы粄兵ㄒョ秆∕砏购のノ硚祇甶拜肈よ玠畓現┎続讽続讽翴矗ㄑの膀パу秈︽恶祘祘の非玥ゼΤ璹ぃ秈︽翠恶祘崩﹚穦ま癬猭禗砠のぃ薄猵
兵ㄒ〆穦╯筁よㄤい珹兵ゅ籔兵ㄒ兜タ某ぃ舱の︙┯ぱ某矗某逼︙某某р蝴ㄈ翠跌だ跋璸购乎瓜いノ硚贺沮硂兜逼ら翠恶祘穦砆跌ノ硚э跑τ蒥砏购〆穦"砏穦"盢穦琌菏恨恶祘猭诀篶砏穦瓜玥爹睦い摸玂臔偿そ堕の厚て盿兵ゅ虑璹ミ玂臔翠砏﹚パ現┎籔砏穦闽玒蝴ぃ跑硂兜某莱ぃ穦硑Θ舅よ紇臫膀砏穦セΤ砫ヴуだ跋璸购乎瓜硂兜某ョゼゲ癸そ┊硑Θ璽踞礛τ沮硂兜某砏穦∕﹚ご羆服穦︽現Ы┮∕
現┎讽Ы腀種钡︙┯ぱ某某蠢兵ㄒ氮莱沮蒥砏购兵ㄒ瞷Τ兵ゅ砏﹚龟琁某兵ㄒ〆穦╯蒥砏购兵ㄒい籔龟琁︙某某Τ闽兵ゅ猔種兵ㄒ材3(1)兵璹砏穦斗┯踞Τ╰参览称羆服┮ボ翠琘ㄇ跋ガЫ砞璸の祇甶瓜某粄羆服硂よ倒ぉ砏穦絋ボ獶盽璶璶―羆服┯空穦倒ぉボ璝羆服穦倒ぉボ某┪穦跌兵ㄒぃゲ璶莱∕︓ㄨ兵ㄒ〆穦ごゼ钡ヴ︙瓃┯空
兵ㄒ〆穦ョ眔眡嘲糠某┪穦矗〆穦糵某顶琿タ穝兵ゅ絋甭舦砏穦癸翠恶祘琁だ跋ノ硚恨琌沮и瞶秆膀兵ゅ疉のそ┊秨や┮ぃ矗硂兜兵ゅ璝矗盢结舦ぉ砏穦恨恶祘璶讽Ы獺┯空у秈︽恶祘玡р┮Τ恶祘某矗ユ砏穦糵у獽秈︽
兵ㄒ〆穦ず妮ぃ現囊〆だ癸兵ㄒ材3兵┪材4兵┪癸ㄢΤ┮玂痙┪ぃミ初兵ㄒ〆穦礚碞兵ㄒ笷Θヴ︙醚ョぃ穦笆某ヴ︙〆穦糵某顶琿タ
畊琌セ兵ㄒ〆穦畊ōだ厨иΝ玡纯チ囊碞セ兵ㄒ矗タ璶ヘ琌盢嘲糠某某翠絛瞅Μ嘲某兵ㄒい览某絛瞅盢肬辰俱い吏盿獵獵︾㎝芖盿珹ずチ囊玥粄璝盢瓃絛瞅珹ず現┎ら叭祘盢穦紇臫ぷㄤ琌癸┬祇甶よ紇臫沮и-
秆セ翠┬瞷腨祏τぃì璝盢瓃┮Τ絛瞅珹ず盢穦紇臫獵恶璸购㎝纒い祇甶璸购硂盢疉の计窾璸┬膀紇臫チ囊盢嘲某矗翠絛瞅Μ翠いァ场だ莱疉のい吏芖簧苧芖㎝‵〤瞷現┎璸购硂絛瞅秈︽秖恶祘硂璸购盢ㄓ璝礛龟琁獽穦盢瞷臟い吏羆恶跋㎝穦甶いみ畉ぃ┰Θ兵帹俱蝴ㄈ翠いァ场だ弧琌亢礛礚и谋眔硂癸翠蒥チㄓ弧稰薄┪龟悔ㄏノよА穦盿ㄓ腨瘆胊チ囊谋眔硂絛瞅荡癸ぃ秈︽砏家恶祘
琌и-
瞶秆场だ笵隔芖露笵祇甶祘盢ㄓ琌Τ惠璶秈︽и-
ョ碞ㄆ紉高猭臮拜種ǎиざ残セ兵ㄒи弧セ兵ㄒ砞﹚ぃ恶崩﹚璝靡赣兜恶璸购Τゲ璶秈︽τ現┎σ納筁ぃㄤ祘赣兜璸购杠玥赣兜恶祘璸购玥琌秈︽硂兜獶荡癸窽ヴ︙恶璸购τ琌兜ぃ恶崩﹚璝ら靡Τ┮惠璶秈︽恶
и-
谋眔и-
矗タ耕キ颗の臮の翠翠疭璶┦㎝蒥チ癸翠稰薄σ納そ砞琁祇甶㎝祇甶よ龟悔惠璶и-
辨某祔や確弄のやΤ闽タ
谅谅畊
︙┯ぱ某璓勉畊嘲糠某矗玂臔翠兵ㄒ璉弘琌絋玂蝴ㄈ翠ぃ筁秖恶祘┮瘆胊硂瞶├﹚眔砛蒥チや蝴ㄈ翠琌翠疭︹ぃΘ翠夹粁τ琌ㄓ贺坝穨祇甶いみ︗竚
パ墩闽玒翠畄甧砛ぶ计﹡チㄌτ﹡┮翠畄纯砆磞酶砲紺ホ繷┪砛翠畄キぷㄤ琌蒥跋场だ常琌眖恶眔ㄓ┮現┎粄程ㄎ祇甶よ猭獽琌р蝴ㄈ翠恶キ
程﹁纒恶跋㎝í镁à穝诀初Τ闽膀セ砞琁祘獽琌恶祘恶祘ョ矗ㄑノのㄤ砞琁ノ硂ㄇ祇甶┮惠ノ环ゑ诀初み祘┮惠ノ翠蒥チ︑礛穦矗拜肈ê碞琌翠現┎穦礚ゎ挂р蝴ㄈ翠恶キ璓ら赤ア硂伐碔疭︹ぱ礛癩碔
パ翠現┎Τ舦縒∕﹚Τ闽恶絛瞅︓礚斗把σ蒥砏购〆穦"砏穦"種ǎ硂獽糤約蒥チ闽猔㎝紐納
せる嘲某┮矗Τ闽恶某臛阶いи纯竒現┎秈˙崩︽恶祘ぇ玡﹚璶穝蝶︳Τ⊿Τㄤよ祇甶翠办斗σ納約獂盡穨刮砰種ǎ
и膀セ觅Θ嘲某玂臔翠弘иゲ斗干翴ê碞琌и癸セ兵ㄒΤ玂痙
兵ㄒ璶ず甧だㄢよ材琌砞﹚ぃ翠ず秈︽恶祘崩﹚よ琌结ぉセЫ舦癸翠恶祘程∕﹚
闽材よи┤硂ぃ砛秈︽翠恶祘崩﹚穦癸盢ㄓ猽翠祇甶篶Θぃ钡┪ぃ︳璸毁锚庢ㄒ弧и-
常笵и-
惠璶芖㎝い吏恶跋砍兵硈钡狥﹁璶稦帹硂崩﹚﹚穦癸硂摸膀祘硑Θ毁锚┪沧璶禗窖猭畑τ╈╈
朝岸穨某矗の材3兵崩﹚弧狦祘Τゲ璶秈︽現┎獽秈︽иЧ材3兵┮Τゅ,礚猭ǎ現┎╯澈Τ⊿Τ硂兜舦材3兵弧"翠斗翠疭そΤ戈玻㎝ぱ礛癩玻τ玂臔㎝玂τヘ瞷砞ぃ砛秈︽翠恶祘崩﹚"材(2)蹿玥弧"ヴ︙そ戮㎝そ诀篶︽ㄏヴ︙耴妮-
舦斗臮の材(1)蹿┮瓃玥ま"沮硂兜ま翠獽璶玂玂臔ぃ甧砛秈︽祇甶硂崩﹚狦眔セЫ種獽穦篶Θ荡癸ぃ秈︽ヴ︙砍㎝恶祘拜肈
畊︓さぱи-
螟弧恶祘琌Ч氨ゎ┪ヴ︙祘ぃ秈︽и谋眔程璶琌癸ヴ︙恶祘ゲ璶祘眔у獶礚秖┪ヴ種恶
и┪砛干翴現┎程秈︽┮Τ崩衡常瞷︳薄и-
琎ぱ秨癘┷穦量のΤ闽┬ㄑ莱拜肈沮ミ猭Ы矪戈╯の瓜繻狝叭场程╯戈︑癬現┎秈︽崩衡︳癸程現┎参璸矪崩衡箂せ820窾и稰伐胔好и谋眔硂计琌︳
㈱フ弧иぃ獺現┎砏购竒臮のゼㄓǔ硉糤㎝σ納и伐ぇ獺纯竒ㄤ初弧筁璶翠环祇甶拜肈Τ环瞒猽翴穝场祇甶ㄤ蒥跋いみ眔秆∕┮и谋眔現┎秈︽恶祘玡莱╯ㄤよ
闽材よ材4兵砏﹚Τ闽翠恶祘斗竒ミ猭Ыуи粄琌ぃ続讽ミ猭Ы獶砏购诀篶パセЫ璽癬砏购戮琌ぃ続讽璝セЫ辅龟祘獽穦籔砏穦à︹㎝瞷狡㎝睼瞔薄猵沮и┮嘲糠某セ某琌パ砏穦糵у恶祘笆ノそ┊拜肈畊ぃу硂兜某兵ㄒ〆穦秈︽癚阶ㄆ谋眔硂ぃび続﹜┮и瞏獺嘲某谋眔硂ぃ琌程ㄎよ猭膀瓃瞶パи辨某ぃ璶や材4兵兵ゅㄏ嘲某癸材3兵Τㄤ稱猭и辨產ぃ璶や材4兵
畊и瘤礛は癸セ兵ㄒи矗よ笷ヘи某р翠跌玂臔跋ユパ砏穦だ跋璸购乎瓜兜ノ硚硂妓暗琂絋玂竒筁砏穦糵у絋玂そ渤Τ舦矗種ǎ㎝笷は癸羘ㄤノ硚ㄒ厚︹盿玂臔跋单だ跋璸购乎瓜盿弧ㄏ翠眔玂臔ㄤ祇甶ゲ璶祇甶惠璶
畊и辨砏购吏挂現祔祇ē穦倒ぉи-
龟借┯空ê碞琌狦钡иよ羆服穦ボ┪甭舦砏购吏挂現ボ砏穦盢翠ノ硚跑兜ノ硚パи某礚斗癸瞷︽砏购琜篶硑Θヴ︙耑笷玂臔翠ヘи玃叫某癸セ兵ㄒ臛阶щは癸布︓朝岸穨某タиョぃやи粄朝某ゼ秆∕и矗拜肈㎝翴ョ嘲某矗兵ㄒ翴朝某某ゼЧ玂臔и-
翠┪砛и-
〆穦糵某顶琿Ω秈︽臛阶
谅谅
腑瓣辆某璓勉畊蝴ㄈ翠琌翠璶夹粁┮穦珹ミ猭Ы癸蝴ㄈ翠秈︽恶祘秈︽癚阶
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ぃ钡筁だτ⊿Τ恶祘礚腀種蝴ㄈ翠ぃ耞恶祘跑蝴ㄈ猠ぃ筁璝眖俱砰砏购àτē硓筁恶祘τ糤埃ㄣ竒蕾痲琌覸秆ユ硄澜峨の侣跋竚拜肈程Τよ猭珿舦颗ㄢよ国璝璶秈︽ヴ︙恶祘и-
谋眔程瞶稱诀琌硓筁縒ミ诀篶糵稸龟祘τそ渤ョ莱Τ硚畖祇種ǎ㎝猭硂硚畖琌ゲ惠硂ㄏカチ眔把籔菏服Τ闽恶祘の矗蔼硓瞷秈︽恶祘惫琁㎝硚畖Аゼ笷璓瓃璶―嘲糠某玂臔翠兵ㄒい矗ㄣ砰璶―疭材3兵矗窽ゎ恶猭﹚崩﹚猭滦そ渤菏服恶祘诀癸瞷恶祘疭琌蝴ㄈ翠恶祘и-
碞瞷顶琿薄猵ㄓ谋眔玥琌琵そ渤把籔菏诡
畊兵ㄒ〆穦糵某セ兵ㄒ戳丁︙┯ぱ某矗琌眖︽現àσ納耎カ砏购〆穦"砏穦"矗蔼瞷硓硓筁硂兜︽現逼の璹カ砏购兵ㄒ籹称瞇籠俱蝴ㄈ翠猭﹚瓜玥ㄏ砏穦Τ舦糵уゼㄓ蝴ㄈ翠秈︽恶祘τそ渤ョ硓筁カ砏购兵ㄒ璹﹚猭﹚祘祇種ǎ硂よи粄現┎璝龟筋┯空そ渤獽Τ诀穦把籔恶祘糵у硂妓暗ョ笷璓嘲某矗兵ㄒ材3兵ヘ
チ羛颗秖よ種ǎ粄硂暗猭琌┮チ羛纯戳辨兵ㄒ镑砆篗硂妓秆∕拜肈堡и-
戳辨辅朝岸穨某〆穦糵某顶琿Ч挡矗タ盢嘲某р蝴ㄈ翠硓筁ミ猭Θぱ礛癩玻の戈方絛瞅Μ朝某ョ竒矗猭и粄硂セ借琌癸耎砏穦舦獺みぃì瞷ョパ現┎硂よゼ┯空┮璓τи谋眔瓃タΤ礶矰睰ìぇ尔癸いみ翴︙衡琌タ絋珹ㄤ瞶︗竚︙衡琌程讽硂よи-
临ゼΤ秈︽瞏╯珿チ羛粄ぃ眔ぉや
チ羛粄狦Τよ猭秆∕そ渤闽み拜肈蝴ㄈ翠璊睹㎝ぃ秈︽恶拜肈и-
琌穦や狦痷⊿Τ秆∕よ猭┪ㄤよ猭и-
穦や嘲某タ
︓兵ㄒ材4兵璶―ミ猭Ы糵у恶祘チ羛粄硂穦睼瞔ミ猭籔︽現闽玒┮チ羛は癸硂兜タ
畊セ略朝勉
霉不瓣某璓勉畊蝴ㄈ翠琌翠祇不琌翠苦ネ㎝祇甶瞏翠琌翠稰獶盽藕镀笴翴㎝Τ基春芠
ㄓ現┎恶郸购筁祘いЧ⊿Τ甧砛カチのΤ闽盡穨把籔そ秨㎝瞏吭高祘硈カ砏购〆穦"砏穦"ぃ筁拜癸翠瞷てカㄓ弧現┎琁現よ皐の恨瞶厩琌ぃ某のぃ钡
嘲糠某矗某兵ㄒΞ窽ゎ現┎ら蝴ㄈ翠秈︽恶祘ㄤ恶璸购斗璶パミ猭Ыу硂兜兵ㄒㄏ現┎浪癚恶∕郸祘˙種ら砏穦Τ舦﹚恶瓜玥の兵ㄒ斗竒筁猭﹚吭高祘碞嘲某矗兵ㄒ竒琌ぃ眔㎝ぃ┵セ㎝チや兵ㄒ材3兵珹朝岸穨某癸兵ㄒ﹚竡タ璶―ぃ蝴ㄈ翠秈︽恶祘猭滦祘菏诡狦現┎┯空らパ砏穦秈︽у眔辅龟兵ㄒ材3兵獽矗ㄑ蛮玂繧и-
粄ご礛琌Τ惠璶
︓兵ㄒ材4兵某矗の璝璶―恶祘パミ猭Ыу穦腨睼瞔︽現㎝ミ猭诀闽戮チ癸ボは癸и-
種セ兵ㄒ癸現┎ゼㄓ郸购穦玻ネ紇臫硂琌陪疭癸翠畄の纒郸购い穝衬笵の獵︾㎝纒芖秈︽恶璸购沮セ瞶秆材3兵ㄏ莉眔硄筁ぃ穦ЧЙ锚の荡癸窽ゎ現┎翠秈︽恶
и辨現┎荷е︽現惫琁よ﹚続讽诀讽Τ惠璶蝴ㄈ翠恶祇甶ゲぃぶ璸购ìキ颗翠祇甶惠璶のカチ瞏ち璶―玂臔翠硂種腀
谅谅畊
糂胺祸某璓勉畊沮菌癘更翠恶祘玡竒甶秨恶祘绊ェ秨甶せЧΘい吏恶祘箂秨﹍场祘箂ЧΘ繦恶翴禫ㄓ禫恶縩禫ㄓ禫
翠秨梆戳Τ15 000箂ど︓30窾︓さ粿ど︓630窾筁1020翠獽穦笷800窾┪︓禬筁800窾
翠ぱぃìぇ矪琌拜肈耑翠禫璶眔┮惠獽禫ㄓ禫螟
杠弧讽坝ぃや恶璶琌璶玂痙╬Τ絏繷嘲糠某ぃや恶璶翠琌翠疭そΤ戈方㎝ぱ礛癩玻┮璶玂臔㎝玂
嘲某蔼庢硂吏挂玂臔盧蔼瞶稱⊿Τ穦は癸иぃ穦は癸ノミ猭よΑ盢店礚钠殆瞶稱旧玥砞﹚ぃ秈︽翠恶祘崩﹚玱Τ坝篹緇
龟悔惠璶籔瞶稱竒盽穦祇ネ侥и-
Τ斗璶瞶稱﹡︘琌龟悔惠璶ユ硄琌龟悔惠璶現┎箂祇翠笲块現郸フブい絋﹚Τ惠璶ゼㄓら秈︽兜笵隔祘珹7腹稦帹绊ェ︓翠琿狥跋ǐ碮硈钡笵㎝い吏〓芖露笵硂ㄇ笵隔琌ゴ硄ユ硄竒璶恨笵癸秆∕ユ硄澜峨Τ腊
ぃ筁7腹稦帹璶皌獵瑆恶璸购い吏〓芖露笵㎝狥跋ǐ碮硈钡笵玥璶皌い吏〓芖恶璸购ぉ龟瞷狦恶璸购Τ闽笵隔祘盢穦礚磷┑Τ嘲某崩﹚硂ㄇ笵隔祘獽璶竒筁瞶稱籔龟悔ぇ驹∕﹚尺舧﹁吏娩敞辰蒥チ穦粄﹁吏盿琌そΤ戈方㎝ぱ礛癩玻-
尺舧ê敞辰┮は癸獵瑆恶琌玭跋﹡チ–ぱ癸翠繥笵澜ó拜肈-
獽穦眖龟悔à祇璶―砍竒獵瑆恶跋7腹稦帹τ粄禫е禫
恶祘璶パミ猭Ыу礚好琌р硂初瞶稱籔龟悔ぇ驹穐ミ猭Ы某┪砛粄︑穦叭龟τぃ琌瞶稱篈矪瞶恶祘糵уㄆ龟靡и-
︗ㄆ盽盽盢瞶稱材︗ㄏ某痷叭龟篈τ獶酵瞶稱篈矪瞶硂拜肈ミ猭Ы琌局Τ┮惠戈方癸硂ㄇ璸购蝶︳某琌ㄣ称┮惠盡穨醚耞產ぃЙ稱稱
恶祘琌砏购笲ノ场だ狦崩﹚パミ猭Ы糵у穦玠畓現┎矪瞶笲ノ紆┦現┎礚猭絋玂Τì镑ㄑ莱骸ìち惠―
︓チ囊朝岸穨某矗タи獺琌钵Ρ玥琌砞﹚安砞┪崩﹚ぃ筁盢絛瞅Μи獺朝某矗硂タぇ緇セōフ翠Τ恶惠璶琌や恶程ぶぃは癸恶朝某┪チ囊粄琘ㄇ跋﹚璶安砞рウ砏琌朝某矗タ酚臮朝某┪チ囊┮粄翠龟悔惠璶朝某粄いァ翠絛瞅Τ龟悔惠璶硂才チ囊猭τチ囊囊乎Τ矗の芖恶拜肈㎝7腹稦帹拜肈朝某さぱ矗タいァ翠絛瞅ぃ珹瓃絛瞅ず┮タ镑笷璓ㄢㄤ狦ぃ虫ゎ芖恶獵瑆恶硂ㄇ絛瞅常ぃいァ翠絛瞅ぇず
и粄朝某タゼ痷タ才翠龟悔惠璶览某タぃ酚臮砍狥跋ǐ碮硈钡笵㎝い吏〓芖露笵惠璶讽礛朝某弧筁硂琌崩﹚Τ龟悔惠璶р硂崩﹚崩陆硂弧猭ㄓだ虏虫狦砞﹚崩﹚τ璶р硂崩﹚崩陆獽璶硓筁ぃぶ臛阶猭祘㎝禗单祘硂常琌羉狡㎝惠璶丁祘Τち惠璶祘獽礚猭甶秨
и癸恶ミ初琌睲捶璓иやΤ龟悔惠璶恶祘は癸礚ゲ璶τ筁恶и粄現┎瞷硈﹃の吭高祘絋﹚Τ⊿Τ龟悔惠璶秈︽恶讽礛︙某某狦眔龟︽硂よ菏诡獽眏и-
荡癸ぃ斗盢硂拜肈ユパセЫ秈︽瞶稱籔龟悔ぇ驹程沧∕﹚
畊セ略朝勉は癸兵ㄒ
MR HOWARD YOUNG: Mr President, firstly I would like to applaud the motives behind the Honourable Miss Christine LOH's Bill. The sentiment behind it is to, not just to protect or environment, but also cry out aloud on behalf of many Hong Kong people, saying "enough if enough. Let us stop filling in the harbour." This sentiment, Mr President, applies not only to people who are concerned with the environment but also many members of the tourism industry as well.
The harbour of Hong Kong is one of our greatest assets. It is an asset that, once gone, cannot be rebuilt. It is an asset that, like in the computer industry where we have hardwares and softwares, from a tourism point of view, the harbour is also a hardware and software rolled into one. Hardware in the fact that our ships, our ferries and even our harbour tour cruises all use the harbour to attract tourists to Hong Kong. Which postcard of Hong Kong have you seen publicising on Hong Kong that does not show the harbour and its magnificent background?
When I say software, it means that even when people come to Hong Kong and go to one of the major tourist attractions, that is the Peak, what do they look at? They look at the harbour and they expect to see, day and night, a clean, well-presented and photogenic harbour before our eyes, and that is one of the characteristics of Hong Kong.
However, Mr President, it is not true to say that simply by leaving things as they are or stopping still that will improve the situation or even will be best. No. For instance most of Hong Kong's tourists today still arrive at Kai Tak Airport and next to Kai Tak Airport is the Kai Tak Nullah. Now, in my view, that should have been reclaimed and filled in years ago so that we would greet Hong Kong tourists when they come off the plane with a sightly view of either a park or maybe nice buildings or exhibition centres rather than a pungent whiff that comes out of the nullah. Therefore, even from the tourism point of view, even though you wish to preserve the harbour, there were past needs and even needs which should have been met long time ago or to have some bits of it reclaimed.
Looking further ahead, Mr President, the tourism industry is very keen to develop a shipping terminal in Hong Kong so that cruise ships can come to Hong Kong. Now, if they come now, apart from Ocean Terminal, where else can they berth? And should use be made in future of, say, the potential Kai Tak site, and I do not see how this could possibly be done without some form of reclamation?
Therefore, on the one hand, we want to preserve the features of the harbour and let it remain as an asset of Hong Kong, on the other hand we must recognise there are certain things that need to be done, and although it might be reclaiming it a bit more, the end result might be better for everyone.
So, Mr President, I feel that the motives behind Miss Christine LOH's Bill are very supportable. Indeed, I feel that the route to take is not that satisfactory, as many of the Members have already said or talked about as to whether it should be the Legislature that decides on such matters, I will not go into that again and to repeat the arguments. But I do hope that when the Secretary for the Planning, Environment and Lands replies to this Bill he will be able to tell Members to what extent we will be able to let the public or professionals to have more a of say in determining the future of our harbour. How will the Town Planning Board, despite the previous attempt by Miss LOH to bring that into being, or whatever body there may be, be able to have an enhanced role in this matter?
I certainly feel that there is a case for not looking at the harbour and the land site in isolation. They are indeed related. You look at all natural harbours and good harbours in the world, you look for instance in San Francisco, in Sydney, anywhere, people do not come to look at the harbour or the water as a tourist attraction. They want to see what is on their waterfront, the architectural features behind it and so on, and the zoning. So, I think the Government hopefully when it addresses this Council on the Bill will be able to tell us how it envisages this problem to be tackled, not just from the purely parochial harbour point of view, but also how the land adjoining the harbour will be dealt with as well.
Thank you, Mr President.
砏购吏挂現璓勉畊и稱さぱ某祇ēボ钩現┎眖⊿Τ矗筁恶祘璸购τ瞷產癸钩Τㄇ種ǎ
ㄤ龟Ν67玡常穦璸购の翠诀初祇甶璸购祇現┎睲贰哪讽Ы览某恶祘絛瞅ず甧のノ硚讽現┎ョ秈︽筁冈灿そ渤吭高и琌稱и-
祇翠诀初祇甶璸购︓祇﹁纒恶祘カ砏购乎瓜埃ㄢ兜種ǎ粄硂妓暗穦紇臫絏繷ぇ現┎Μ荡场だ種ǎ常粄翠ぶ诀初祇甶璸购莱荷е崩︽┮恶璸购ョ莱荷е秈︽场だ種ǎ︓粄讽Ы辨硓筁恶眔琌ぃì镑︙筁碭現┎沮讽吭高挡狦崩︽祘戳丁某種ǎ穦瞷э跑某讽ョ⊿Τ碞現┎吭高矗は種ǎ
弧硂兵某兵ㄒ畊兵ㄒ〆穦и-
眔眡某琌⊿Τ笷醚現┎は癸硂兵某兵ㄒセ兵ㄒㄤ龟Τㄢヘ某莱赣矗筁材兵ㄒ材3兵砞﹚兜ぃ砛秈︽翠恶祘猭崩﹚┮Τそ戮㎝そ诀篶糹︽戮叭┪︽ㄏ舦ゲ斗臮の崩﹚玥ま材兵ㄒ材4兵龟悔结ぉミ猭Ыу秈︽翠恶祘舦
畊и稱睲贰現┎現郸ョ琌璶玂臔㎝玂翠琌現┎粄璶磅︽硂現郸兵ㄒ琌ぃゲ璶瞷︽カ砏购猭ㄒ㎝祘碞絃キ俱㎝カ瓜玥璹璹猭﹚祘筁祘ぃそ秨㎝ㄣ硓τΤだ吭高そ渤诀穦兵ㄒョ穦睼瞔ミ猭Ыミ猭à︹㎝︽現Ы︽現∕﹚戮砫и穦臛阶兵ㄒΤ闽兵ゅ冈灿弧現┎癸硂ㄢ翴ミ初
畊兵ㄒ〆穦秈︽癚阶戳丁и-
睲贰現┎は癸硂兜兵ㄒτи弧筁兵ㄒ⊿Τ﹚ゲ璶璶琌Ч⊿Τ弧龟琁灿竊ぃ筁и稱眏秸翴現┎フ穦癸翠恶祘拜肈讽闽猔и-
ョ種現┎瞷糵у翠恶祘某よ猭ごΤэ到ぇ矪現┎览称ㄢ贺э到よ猭矗某蹦ノㄤい贺兵ㄒ
(1) 埃砏家耕恶璸购ら┮Τ恶璸购А穦ユカ砏购〆穦"砏穦"糵某琵砏穦∕﹚琌惠璶碞琘兜览某秈︽恶璸购籹称穝猭﹚砏购瓜玥┪璹瞷Τ猭﹚砏购瓜玥砏穦σ納筁Τ闽砏购㎝╯挡狦穦╯恶惠璶㎝ノ硚某糵稸╯恶祘砏家狦硂恶璸购ぃ莉砏穦у獽ぃ穦Τ秈˙矪瞶はτ┪斗浪癚ぃ筁恶璸购㎝Τ闽ノ硚莉砏穦у現┎獽穦碞紉高Τ闽跋某穦㎝刮砰種ǎ礛р-
種ǎ砏穦は琈ㄑσ納砏穦σ納筁そ渤吭高挡狦穦∕﹚琌沮カ砏购兵ㄒそガ竒璹猭﹚砏购瓜р某恶璸购珹ず砏穦沮カ砏购兵ㄒ甶ボ猭﹚砏购瓜玥ヴ︙瓜玥紇臫瓜玥甶ボ戳丁酚兵ㄒ材6兵砏穦矗は癸砏穦膥τ穦σ納は癸種ǎ癸猭﹚瓜莱璹某礛р瓜矗ユ羆服穦︽現Ыу┪
(2) ﹚瞇籠俱蝴ㄈ翠猭﹚砏购瓜玥砏﹚ら兜恶祘某ゲ斗眔カ砏购兵ㄒΤ闽猭﹚祘砏恨
畊現┎某ヘ玡ご礛Ττ羆服ョ兵ㄒ〆穦Θ祇獺ン狦兵ㄒ砆篗現┎盢穦辅龟某иぃフ︙场だ某粄現┎⊿Τ硂┯空ぃ筁狦兵ㄒ莉眔硄筁現┎某獽穦兵ㄒ紇臫τ跑眔礚
畊и苸叫某碞兵ㄒ∕﹚玡糵稸σ納Τ闽拜肈兵ㄒ安璝莉眔硄筁ぃ穦腨耑睹瞷︽カ砏购睼瞔︽現诀闽㎝ミ猭诀闽戮穦紇臫и-
莱セ翠ゼㄓ祇甶惠―贺よ現┎は癸硂兜兵ㄒ粄ウ琌ぃ惠璶иョ辨︗某碞硂兜兵ㄒщは癸布
谅谅畊
11.00 am
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THE PRESIDENT'S DEPUTY, DR LEONG CHE-HUNG, took the chair.
瞶畊辩醇翬某既穦某
MISS CHRISTINE LOH: Mr Deputy, the Administration plans to reclaim a total of about five square miles of the harbour. Half of this reclamation has already received the final stamp of approval from the Governor. The other half is awaiting such approval, and has been delayed principally by the same public controversy that gave rise to this Bill.
The Administration's plans call for more reclamation than all that was previously done over 150 years, and reduce the harbour's width to 860 m as its narrowest point. The implementation of the plans will mean a drastic and irreversible shrinkage of one the most precious features of our geographical environment. In a few short years, they will turn Victoria Harbour into Victoria River.
It is therefore not surprising that the community has expressed the deepest dissatisfaction with these plans. The Secretary has just now reminded us that these plans had been revealed to the public already some years ago and questioned why people did not raise their voices then. It may be that the Government never released on one sheet of paper the extent of all these plans. However, this plan was released, I believe, some time towards the end of 1994 and that plan obviously shocked a lot of people, which is why the controversy has arisen. This Council heard representations opposing the plans from an extraordinarily wide spectrum of relevant professional bodies and individuals, including the Hong Kong Institutes of Surveyors, Architects, and Landscape Architects, the major environmental protection groups, various unions of marine professionals, individual academics and Town Planning Board members.
Meanwhile, the Society for the Protection of the Harbour, of which I am Deputy Chairman, collected more than 148 000 signatures in two months from members of the public supporting a petition to stop harbour reclamation. Many Members who have themselves engaged in petition drives will realize what an extra ordinary number this is within that period of time.
The Administration, however, is impervious to such pleas. The machinery of Government was first set in motion towards harbour reclamation as early as 1988, and it is now so deeply committed to the resulting plans that I believe the Administration no longer knows how to back away from them. Nor, in any case, is it interested in doing so. The belated outbreak of public controversy has stalled the juggernaut, but there is no indication it will change course. That is why we need the Bill.
Clause 4 of the Bill requires the Legislative Council's approval for harbour reclamation. The technical problems raised by the Administration are unconvincing and I will not waste time on them. We know that this Council's internal procedures are perfectly capable of recognizing which reclamation proposals are routine and uncontroversial, and of approving them swiftly and without fuss.
Where major reclamations are concerned, I understand that many Members are reluctant to confront the executive head-on. In such cases, however, I suggest that approval by this Council is not only an appropriate course of action, but the best course. We have an obligation to speak for the community, and no other body is presently able to do so. I have previously argued for the establishment of a new body to take up the unassigned portfolio of advising the Administration on strategic development planning. Until that is done, this Council ought to shoulder the burden. Not the burden of advising on strategic planning, which I freely admit we are not qualified to do . I am speaking of the burden of being the community's last line of defence against reclamation plans that have veered wildly off course. That we can and should do, Mr Deputy.
Clause 3 of the Bill establishes the principle that the harbour is to be protected and preserved as a special public asset and a natural heritage of Hong Kong people. For that purpose, the clause also establishes a presumption against reclamation in the harbour. Such a presumption will ensure throughout the planning process that due account is taken of the harbour's special characteristic. It means that reclamation in the harbour may only be undertaken if no feasible alternative is available. As a bottom line, I suggest that this is eminently reasonable.
I myself am not against total reclamation. For example, Kowloon Bay, which the honourable representative of the tourist functional constituency, Mr Howard YOUNG, just talked about. In the work of the Society for the Protection of the Harbour we have also published alternative plans to those of the Government and in there, for example, we have suggested that Kowloon Bay may be turned into a harbour and may in fact suit the needs of the tourist industry.
The Secretary professes horror at the lack of details about how to fulfil its obligations under the presumption. He would be equally horrified, and more genuinely so, if the provision were more detailed. As written, the provision makes the minimum intrusion on the Administration's internal planning processes.
Moreover, clause 3 by no means rules out any future harbour reclamation. It merely demands that when the Administration considers harbour reclamation, it takes account of the pre-eminent place that the harbour has in the hearts of Hong Kong people. In other words, it requires the Administration to reorder its own priorities to better reflect those of the community it governs. I see no argument against such a requirement, which is no more than what good government demands.
The Honourable Albert CHAN will move a Committee stage amendment to limit the Bill's protection to the Central Harbour. I regret that this must be so, and I leave him to explain the reasons for doing so in greater detail later. I do not believe the Bill can pass without this amendment, however, so I urge Members to support it. Let us protect as much of the harbour as we can.
As a last-ditch alternative to the Bill, the Administration offers to allow the Town Planning Board to vet reclamation plans. What should we make of this proposal? I would like Members to consider four basic points.
First, Members should approach the proposal with much scepticism. It contains more the usual component of evasion and misdirection. Let me give an example.
The Administration raised charging effect arguments twice to block provisions intended to bring the Town Planning Board into the scheme of the Bill. When making those arguments, the Planning, Environment and Lands Branch advised the President as follows, and I would like to quote from that letter:
The Board is responsible for the preparation of draft plans for the layout of "such areas as the Governor may direct". But the question of whether those areas should be reclaimed in the first place is a separate and prior issue which falls outside the present functions of the Board.
Under present law, the Board is not concerned with deciding whether there should be a reclamation or not, but with preparing a draft layout plan for a reclamation if so directed by the Governor.
Despite having advised the President that the Town Planning Board could not legally question the extent of reclamation plans, that is precisely what the Administration now proposes the Board should do.
I do not mention this contradiction to suggest that the Administration is legally unable to implement the proposal. I think it can do so, and that it was in fact less than candid in the earlier advice. My point is that there is no reason to believe the Administration is being more candid with Members now. The advice and arguments offered by the Administration in this matter have consistently been motivated by strategic considerations first and foremost.
Second, most of the Administration's so-called proposal is not a proposal at all, but merely a reaffirmation of existing arrangements. The undertaking to allow the Board to examine reclamation plans has been in place since 1995. The refinement of that undertaking, to submit an advance list of reclamation projects to the Board, dates back to 1996. These arrangements already exist. They are how we reached the unsatisfactory position we are in today.
The sole, new element in the Administration's proposal is the suggestion that a single town plan be prepared for the entire harbour. This was raised for the first time on 30 May 1997, and I wrote immediately to the Governor on that day asking him to take the necessary legal steps to set the suggestion in motion. The Honourable Edward HO also highlighted this and he was most helpful in thinking through how this could be done. The Governor's reply reaffirmed the 1995 and 1996 undertakings, but failed entirely to mention the creation of a single plan for the whole harbour. I had offered, Mr Deputy, to withdraw this Bill if this could be done but again no answer.
That evasion was typical, and brings me to my third point. The Administration categorically rejects any legal obligation to abide by, or even to consider planning input from outside the Administration itself. The current legal position is that the Governor may freely authorize any reclamation unilaterally and finally. He may do so despite views to the contrary expressed by anyone, including the Town Planning Board. This is the legal position the Administration is asking you to endorse.
Fourth and finally, the Administration continues to stand by its existing reclamation plans. There may be some flexibility about the details, and in particular about long-term direction of development. But harbour reclamation is a medium-term strategy, and as recently as last month, the Administration tabled papers to the Bills Committee reaffirming its basic justification for reclaiming the harbour in the medium term. Mr Deputy, we do not have a long time to save the harbour. As this is medium term, decision will be taken very quickly and very swiftly. I am trying to seek a measure of balance on this process, which is why I urge you to support clause 3, the idea of the presumption.
In this light, the meaning of the Administration's proposal should be clear to you. The Administration is willing to put reclamation plans to the Town Planning Board because frankly, it is confident that the Board will not challenge them. The Administration has solid ex officio representation on the Board, and has not reappointed the Board's most vocal and knowledgeable opponents of reclamation. Nevertheless, just in case the Board does become obstreperous, the Administration also wants to retain the legal right to ignore it. That is why the Administration proposes only administrative instead of legally binding arrangements for the Board. So, Members, I ask you not to be fooled by these and that is also why the Secretary is seeking to block every provision I have suggested to bring the Board into this Bill.
The fact is that the Administration intends to proceed with its reclamation plans. The only reason it has not done so yet is that it is still searching for a politically acceptable package in which to do so. Right now, Members have a choice. They can give the Administration the political package it needs by rejecting the Bill or they can try to save the harbour.
Mr Deputy, I urge Members to support clause 3 even if they cannot stomach clause 4.
11.15 am
と1115だ
THE PRESIDENT resumed the chair.
畊確穦某
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill put.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
Miss Christine LOH claimed a division.
嘲糠某璶―翴∕
PRESIDENT: Council shall proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on Miss Christine LOH's Members' Bill. The question is: That the PROTECTION OF THE HARBOUR BILL be read the Second time.
Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button in the voting units and then cast their votes by pressing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 30 votes in favour of the motion and 20 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
畊ガ觅Θ某30は癸20琌ガ某莉硄筁
Committee stage of Bill
兵ㄒ砰〆穦糵某顶琿
Council went into Committee.
セЫ秈砰〆穦糵某顶琿
PROTECTION OF THE HARBOUR BILL
玂臔翠兵ㄒ
Clauses 1 and 5 were agreed to.
兵ㄒ材1の5兵莉眔硄筁
朝岸穨某璓勉畊パ穦某盽砏砏﹚ヴ︙某穝璹莱兵ㄒ兵ゅ莉矪瞶Ч拨ぉσ納и沮穦某盽砏材68兵璶―畊種и笆某既氨磅︽穦某盽砏材46兵材(5)蹿獽и某穝璹1兵ㄒ緇兵ゅ莉ぉσ納
CHAIRMAN: Mr Albert CHAN, as only the President may give consent for a motion to be moved, without notice, to suspend Standing Orders, your request cannot be dealt with in Committee. I therefore order that Council shall now resume.
Council then resumed.
砰〆穦繦τ確ミ猭Ы
PRESIDENT: Mr Albert CHAN, you have my consent.
朝岸穨某璓勉畊и笆某既氨磅︽穦某盽砏材46兵材(5)蹿獽砰〆穦σ納兵ㄒ緇兵ゅぇ玡σ納и某穝璹1
PRESIDENT: I now propose the question to you and that is: That Standing Order No. 46(5) be suspended to enable the Committee of the whole Council to consider Mr Albert CHAN's proposed new schedule 1 ahead of the remaining clauses of the Bill.
Question on the motion put and agreed to.
某ぇ某肈竒矗繦窖∕莉硄筁
Council went into Committee.
セЫ秈砰〆穦糵某顶琿
New schedule 1
穝璹1Boundaries of the Central Harbour
いァ翠絛--
Schedule read the First time and ordered to be set down for Second Reading pursuant to Standing Order 46(7).
竒筁弄ㄌ沮穦某盽砏材46兵材(7)蹿砏﹚㏑逼弄
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и-
矗タ璶琌и-
谋眔狦盢俱蝴ㄈ翠絛瞅珹兵ㄒ恨絛瞅ず紇臫穦筁筪㎝瞏环и-
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腑瓣辆某祇ē纯竒у蝶и-
タ⊿Τ竒筁瞏╯ㄤ龟⊿Τ把籔и-
癚阶┪琌⊿Τ磝搐и-
璉瞶沮ㄤ龟狦竒タいァ翠场だ現┎常穦璸购い璶恶璸购い畉ぃ常琌ノ祇甶坝穨加и-
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ョ笵程Τㄇ現┎㎝︽現﹛快そ矗ユ某矗某ㄒい吏穝恶场だ砍約初и-
粄狦硂妓郸购τ瘆胊いァ翠肚参の翠蒥チ眏疨稰薄翠琌荡癸ぃ続
иョ
иョ稱莱糂胺祸某у蝶粄и-
匡拒场だΤ熬╬ぇ尔瘤礛⊿Τ钡ノ硂泊弧и-
ぃは癸芖秈︽恶︙は癸い吏恶㎡闽芖恶祘チ囊芖や场ㄤ龟琌は癸и-
ぃ盢硂场だ珹ず琌и-
瞶秆芖恶祘琌跋┦恶璸购琌翠蒥チ癸いァ翠常╆Τ眏疨稰薄τ癸翠︗ㄓ弧ョ穦篶Θ腨瘆胊и-
ぃ辨跋ㄇ種ǎ紇臫兵ㄒ俱砰兵ゅ膀いァ翠场だ疭︗и-
粄硂场だ莱赣兵ㄒ絛瞅ぇず
砏购吏挂現矗の︙常穦璸购矗⊿Τは癸珹某ずㄤ龟常穦璸购吭高戳丁讽翠幅纯現┎矗и-
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龟悔恶┮硑Θ瘆胊稰谋荡癸穦籔現┎磞瓃瓜礶琌ㄢㄆ
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弧獽穦狡弄┮癚阶拜肈谅谅
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癸硂3翴и稱現┎砏穦琌鉩ōだ砆〆ヴτ-
常琌ぶ计ㄤΩ埃現┎砏穦Θ琌︑盡穨Τ讽︗ㄤい︓珹7厩毙甭场だ砏穦〆竒碞-
︙は癸セ兵ㄒ计兵ㄒ〆穦秆睦-
ミ初硂ㄇ〆讽い珹蒥砏购毙甭︓Τ蒥砏购猭毙甭-
常琌眖︑盡穨ミ初兵ㄒ〆穦秆睦︙嘲某某ぃ狦嘲某粄硂竤︑盡穨┪厩砃Τ讽︗琌現┎倔ブ瓜彻杠и谋眔┪┪ぶ玍癲-
醇紌︓材翴闽︙Τㄇ某は癸翠τ⊿Τ砆〆ヴ硂琌籔ㄆ龟ぃ才ㄏи笵嘲某琌︗〆иぃ稱弧ㄆ龟ê︗〆竒砏穦讽〆讽禬筁12沮現┎硄盽暗猭竒琌続讽丁锣传〆讽赣〆ぃ砆〆ヴョΤㄤ砏穦〆狝叭禬筁8┪10τぃ砆〆ヴ赣〆纯Ω╬蛤и弧砏穦10竒秨﹍稰痟仓琌璶癶ヰи-
讽ョ钡種ǎ┮癸嘲某弧現┎赣〆は癸恶τぃ〆ヴи稰だ砓钵и谋眔ゲ斗坚睲
闽朝岸穨某矗タи稱兵ㄒ〆穦⊿Τ癚阶筁硂タ┮現┎⊿Τ诀穦秆睦Τ闽紇臫и稱酵酵朝某タ┮硑Θ紇臫
沮タ兵ㄒ材3の材4兵ぃ砛秈︽恶祘崩﹚の恶祘斗竒ミ猭Ыуご穦続ノタΞр兵ㄒ続ノ絛瞅いァ翠ざ纒‵〤戛籔翠い吏芖簧苧芖ぇ丁办ㄤ龟и稱拜朝某タ呸胯の沮︙タ穦癸い吏芖‵〤の纒跋ら祇甶玻ネ紇臫パ兵ㄒ﹚恶祘迭珹"ヴ︙玡镭のいのㄤ秈︽ヴ︙祘"の疉の兜"Τ闽兵ㄒ"矗タ穦紇臫いァ翠ヴ︙玡镭のいのㄤ秈︽ヴ︙祘珹沮┏繥笵兵ㄒ臟隔ΜのΤ闽砏﹚兵ㄒ笵隔祘ㄏノの干纕兵ㄒ㎝﹁跋┏繥笵兵ㄒ秈︽祘ㄤ摸砏家祘ㄒ猽─帹砍絏繷㎝そノ砞琁の秈︽蝴单祘穦紇臫
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ゲ斗秈︽硂ㄇ祘э到セ翠ユ硄笲块╰参τ璹俱砰祇甶郸菠и-
р硂ㄇ祘砏购絛瞅ず沮兵ㄒ硂ㄇ祘斗疭のぃ癸硂ぃ穦ま癬睼睹τ穦兵ㄒ絛瞅闽祘瞣硈
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礚斗沮兵ㄒ"ぃ砛秈︽恶祘崩﹚"兵ゅ疭σ納琘ㄇ祘
膀瓃現┎ご礛は癸Τ闽タи苸叫︗某щは癸布
谅谅畊
MISS CHRISTINE LOH: Mr Chairman, I would just like to respond to those questions and points raised by the Secretary. First of all, he seems to have misheard me. What I said, Mr President, was the Administration has solid ex-officio representation on the Board. Ex-officio members includes the Chairman and the Deputy, so I think the Secretary was a little bit overly-sensitive about what I was saying.
Secondly, he seems to take issue with my assessment that I believe the Administration is confident that the Town Planning Board will not challenge the reclamation plans. That is my assessment and I am not showing any disrespect to the Town Planning Board members, but of course, if the Administration wishes to disagree with my assessment, that is its right to do so.
Thirdly, I was also referring to the appointment system. As far as I know, the Government's appointment system do take into account known views when it is making appointments, and I was not referring certainly to any one person, about people who are known to oppose further harbour reclamation; so again, it is perhaps the Secretary's sensitivity that he decided to restrict it to any particular person.
I myself regret the amendment has to be made by the Democratic Party, but as I said earlier on, this amendment will not pass without my support of this amendment. And I do ask Members to support it because it is a medium-term strategy and reclamation is a medium-term strategy. If we do not do something about it now, in three years time, Hong Kong will regret losing its harbour.
朝岸穨某璓勉畊и稱虏虫莱砏购吏挂現计借高闽︙и-
璹﹚いァ翠絛瞅и祇ēい矗癸翠﹡チㄓ弧蝴ㄈ翠いァ场だ琌Τ基Τ種竡㎝疭よ蝴ㄈ翠癸笴穨琌だ璶и-
眖郴辨璶穦蝴ㄈ翠狦р翠Μ俱春芠穦瘆胊埃ぇи-
临Τㄤ瞶パ疭琌笲よ惠璶沮常穦璸购狦盢い吏芖簧苧芖‵〤㎝纒芖盿恶キ俱翠獽穦跑眔┮孔亢礛礚穦逞兵猠瑈τぃ琌翠
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竒筁よσ納矗タ辨︗镑や谅谅
Question on the Second Reading of the schedule proposed, put and agreed to.
弄ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕莉硄筁
Schedule read the Second time.
竒筁弄
朝岸穨某璓勉畊и笆某セ兵ㄒ莱糤干穝璹1
Proposed addition
览某糤干
New schedule 1 (See annex XXIV)
1ǎンXXIV
Question on the addition of the new schedule proposed, put and agreed to.
糤干穝ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕莉硄筁
Clause 2
兵ㄒ材2兵
朝岸穨某璓勉畊и笆某タ材2兵タず甧更祇癳倒︗〆ゅンず
硂兜タ璶琌盢"翠"﹚竡э"いァ翠"﹚竡ㄤ瞶パ玡︗弧
谅谅
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 2 (See annex XXIV)
兵ㄒ材2兵ǎンXXIV
砏购吏挂現璓勉畊и祇簍勉玡и稱朝岸穨某ダ磨琌翠氨獃ぃ闽恶拜肈材瞷ダ磨砞璸セだ⊿Τ或翠ㄑㄤ氨獃硂籔セ翠琌秈︽恶礚闽材瓣ダ磨琌秈翠ず氨獃斗跌瓣瓁︽笆よ惠璶ョぃ琌翠秈︽恶祘τぃ秈ㄓ玡秈セ翠翠常琌ダ磨瞷硈レ‵腹秎近秈и-
翠硂籔и-
翠惗⊿Τ闽玒赣看秎近㎝玡ダ磨だぃ
畊闽兵ㄒ材3兵и稱ビ沮現┎現郸ミ初琌璶玂臔㎝玂翠硂琌︽現よ現郸莱ユパ︽現讽Ы∕﹚┮現┎ぃ種Τ惠璶ミ猭砞﹚兜ぃ翠ず秈︽恶祘崩﹚и弧筁瞷セ翠カ砏购祘絋玂穦碞某秈︽恶祘冈灿╯癸砏购吏挂ゅ厩ユ硄㎝ㄤよ紇臫礛紉高そ渤種ǎ
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砞猭玂臔翠ぇ緇斗璶フ翠恶祘癸玃秈翠竒蕾㎝穦祇甶穦祇揣ノи-
Τ硓筁瓃硚畖続讽翴㎝丁常穦跋祇甶璸购矗ㄑ㎝膀娄砞琁庢ㄒㄓ弧安⊿Τ翠恶祘и-
螟稱钩妓镑矗ㄑㄑ砍诀初臟隔い吏㎝纒
翠┬惠―ち璶秆∕よ猭Τ苦糤ㄑ莱埃秨臥㎝侣跋狦辨カ跋矗ㄑ獽斗秈︽翠恶祘癸秆∕ㄑ莱拜肈ぃ砛秈︽翠祘猭砏﹚琌⊿Τ腊硂兜砏﹚癸恶よ矗借好玱ゼ矗ち龟︽よи-
ぃ穝砍┬ぃじ砍い吏︓芖露笵某粄瞷崩﹚ぃ琌窽-
羘嘿Τ闽猭琌砞ミ兜......
CHAIRMAN: We are on clause 2, Secretary.
砏购吏挂現癸ぃ癬畊и祇ēゎ
嘲糠某璓勉產ボや1タ眖呸胯àㄓи莱赣や硂タи獺⊿Τ或璶弧
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clause 2, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材2兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clause 3
兵ㄒ材3兵
朝岸穨某璓勉畊и笆某タ材(3)兵タず甧更祇癳倒︗〆ゅンずセタ璶盢材3兵ぃ翠ず秈︽恶祘崩﹚絛瞅パ"翠"э"いァ翠"и耕Ν玡秆睦Τ闽瞶パ辨產镑やセタ
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 3 (See annex XXIV)
兵ㄒ材3兵ǎンXXIV
︙┯ぱ某璓勉畊и矗は癸硓筁ミ猭砞﹚崩﹚┮иぃ稱狡硂拜肈
и稱莱朝岸穨某の嘲糠某祇ē朝某矗ダ磨┕秈翠ゑи獵眔и癘眔穝緼﹁腹龟悔琌瞷﹁翠氨獃パ砰縩びウぃ秈翠┮и-
璶Г猳陈近ウ
иビи癸翠蝴ㄈ翠稰薄荡ぃ还嘲糠某朝岸穨某┪ㄤㄆ┪︓Гそ渤畊カチи纯蝴ㄈそ堕村猘ê翠ごゼ恶キ┮借伐睲间続﹜村猘и克砛иêㄠ村猘
翠縱畍厩穦だ辨镑玂臔蝴ㄈ翠и-
纯竒現┎矗ユ筁よ某р恶絛瞅罽玂痙场だ跋ㄑ膀┪ぶ秖祇甶ノ硚縱畍厩穦獶Ч﹚恶τ代秖畍厩穦や玂臔翠崩﹚иさぱ矗は癸洪琌и粄硂獶続讽暗猭τ現┎睲贰辅龟ㄤ┯空盢翠ユパカ砏购〆穦"砏穦"糵уΜ栋そ渤は癸種ǎ
︓弧砏穦Θ来㎝現┎у蝶и粄琌ぃそキ獺︗ㄆご礛癘眔и-
纯竒ゴ衡瑂綟そ堕ミ猭Ыだ羖玥Ч厚てカ現Ы癸ボ種現┎觅Θ玱パ砏穦场だΘ矗は癸τぃ莉硄筁瞷и-
璶祙计货じ潦禦い跋坝计糷加快そ狦弧砏穦癸現┎ゲ﹚斑㏑琌眖и粄硂弧猭ぃびそキ
и-
瞷酵琌崩﹚拜肈и稱硂场だ祇ēЧ挡
腑瓣辆某璓勉畊癸蝴ㄈ翠瞷恶祘癸春芠の癸そ渤龟悔紇臫ぷㄤ琌差眖緿┪ず翠カチ稰и-
Ч秆
獺產穦祇瞷碞腁冒祘ㄓ矗の絛瞅︓そ盿环环ぃの蝴ㄈ翠硂薄猵籔恶祘旧璓蝴ㄈ翠畉ぃ跑Θ蝴ㄈ猠瞷禜Τ钡闽硈
и璶ビи-
は癸蝴ㄈ翠秈︽⊿Τ砏购礚ゎ挂┪ぃ莱秈︽恶祘珿癸嘲糠某矗兵ㄒи粄и-
弘琌や琌и-
σ納狦Τ倒そ渤把籔匡拒诀穦琵-
笷種ǎ眔キ颗玥и-
粄琌钡硂匡拒
谅谅畊
砏购吏挂現璓勉и琌侣某祘材234兵琌硈癬┮и瞷钡尿祇ē
и稱虑诀穦碞砞﹚崩﹚弧碭杠钮ǎ某弧┮孔崩﹚ぃ琌窽某弧粄Τ闽猭ㄒ砞ミ兜ぃ翠ず秈︽恶祘崩﹚砏﹚┮Τそ戮㎝そ诀篶痷港絋玂礚匡拒薄猵秈︽恶祘程秆∕快猭某ョ羘嘿狦現┎靡恶祘Τ瞶瞶パ現┎礚斗Τヴ︙紐納
ぃ筁и谋眔某矗硂ㄇ阶沮рㄆ龟筁虏てτ倒иパ某踞讽猭畑à︹禜и稱矗眶某猭ㄒス莉眔硄筁猭膏睦盢穦パ猭畑璽砫闽ぃ秈︽恶猭崩﹚龟悔Τ︙瞇種獽璶パ猭皘掉﹚и-
璶猭皘掉﹚睲贰フ
材и-
璶候癘硂兜崩﹚スΘ猭ㄒ┮Τそ戮㎝そ诀篶磅︽籔翠祘Τ闽︽笆常猭糵狦カチ粄讽Ы簔跌硂兜砏﹚碝―猭皘絋玂硂兜砏﹚眔だσ納и-
璶璝ミ猭Ы沮兵ㄒ︓タ材4兵莉甭秈︽恶祘舦ミ猭Ы硂よ璶癸猭糵
材兵ㄒ琌砞﹚崩﹚玥τ⊿Τ璹ヴ︙灿竊ㄒ耞そ戮蹦︽笆兵ン㎝非玥单и-
程沧穦癸ぃ薄猵ら穦ま癬猭よ某借好讽ЫΤ臮の硂兜砏﹚硂妓ゲ礛ぃ翠俱砰痲疭琌и-
璶秆∕┬㎝ユ硄单拜肈и-
ゲ斗称Т┮Τよ獽続讽翴㎝丁矗ㄑ㎝膀娄砞琁┮и辨某碞タ材3兵щ布玡灿σ納и矗拜肈
и璶ビ翠カ砏购膀猭ぇτ︽ぇΤ硂そキそ秨㎝瞶Τ倒ぉカチ矗は癸诀穦璶―讽Ыσ納-
種ǎ┮и借好琌痷斗璶砞﹚絢τ螟磅︽猭崩﹚耑睹瞷
谅谅畊
MISS CHRISTINE LOH: Mr Chairman, first of all I am glad to hear the Government takes the law seriously. It is because it respects the law that it understands if the presumption passes it will have to take a much higher degree of care. And the Administration, for the sake of their efficiency, of course, they would rather not have any kind of restriction. But actually the presumption is meant to do exactly that.
Let us not forget, Members and Mr Chairman, today, nobody is saying that they are very happy with the Government's present plans. People are concerned about the harbour being over-reclaimed because they are seeing signs of it. This is not some fiction. This is something that they can just look out of the door here and they can see, and that is the purpose of the debate today, the debate in the past and also this Bill. So, I am not grabbing something from the air and creating controversy. The controversy is there for everyone to see. And let us not forget this terrific planning process that the Secretary is telling us, well, this is where the problem has arisen. All I am trying to do is to impose a higher degree of awareness and work on the part of the Administration when they consider planning and reclamation.
The Honourable IP Kwok-him said earlier on that if there was another choice then this Bill is not necessary, and he suggested that what the Government has done in terms of administrative undertaking is enough. As I said earlier on, I have given the Government a choice in terms of putting in law a single town plan for the entire harbour as the Honourable Edward HO has suggested. The Governor and the Administration have decided not to do this, which is why I think this so-called choice is not as good as it could be. And I repeat, Mr Chairman, the Government rejects any legal obligation to abide by or even to consider planning inputs from outside the Government itself.
The Secretary again said that in the exercise of the presumption that there were no details, so how can the Administration know how to do this? And I also said during the Second Reading debate that I think if there were lots of details, the Secretary would then be expressing today that there were too many details. What I have tried to do is simply to provide a provision that makes the minimum intrusion into the Government's internal planning process, and I believe it is going to work, Mr Chairman, and I urge Members to support it.
朝岸穨某璓勉畊и瞷虏虫莱ㄢ拜肈
材闽ミ猭よΑ砏恨ノ硚硂獶パи承硑ㄒ產笵偿そ堕兵ㄒ琌ノミ猭Α砏恨琘ㄇ赣或ノ硚┪ぃ赣或ノ硚硂琌︽現ミ猭闽玒タ盽逼璝笿琘ㄇ拜肈┪現郸讽翠カチ辨ミ猭Α┪現┎粄ノミ猭Αㄓ秈︽砏恨硂琌タ盽㎝炊筂まノよ猭翠猽ノ猭ㄒΑ砏恨翠ノ硚龟ぃ衡疭礚斗佩┣
︙璶ミ猭砏恨の璶パミ猭Ы某矗ミ猭砏恨硂琌某㎝そ渤ぃ獺ヴ現┎硂琌だ睲捶絋︙ぃ獺ヴㄤ龟ミ猭Ы莱赣璽砫ヴи︑Τ砫ヴ筁计ㄓ現┎у挤蹿秈︽砏家恶祘琌眔и-
や︓み祘璸购ミ猭Ы某畉ぃや現┎┮Τ挤蹿﹁纒秖恶祘瞷い吏恶祘琌眔и-
やиぃ冈灿癚阶讽菌璉春ê琌Τぶ砛砆や薄猵硄筁Τ闽挤蹿竒筁筁篏礹竒喷㎝毙癡產跑眔弘パ筁ア粇и-
瞷眶谋蝴ㄈ翠琌璶疭琌いァ场だτ璶硓筁ミ猭砞﹚ぃ恶崩﹚辨らぃ穦Τ某砆薄猵硄筁Τ闽挤蹿
砏购吏挂現弧и-
某踞讽猭畑à︹琌弧и-
瞷┮癚阶安砞崩﹚ㄤ龟场だ琌︽ヴ︙某览┪糵某ヴ︙兵ㄒ﹚璶睲贰フ㎝︑镑睲贰膏睦赣兜兵ㄒ┪兵ㄒ種穦ぉ硄筁某礚斗猭畑眔掉∕弧琘兵ㄒ琘兜種ぉ硄筁硂琌ミ猭弘︓ぃ兵ㄒ兵蹿秆睦獶パ某縒∕﹚
и-
竒紉高筁セЫ猭臮拜種ǎチ囊セō紉高筁ぃぶ猭種ǎだ睲贰材3兵┮孔"ぃ翠ず秈︽恶祘崩﹚"琌砞﹚ぃ翠ず秈︽恶祘崩﹚沮Τ闽猭種ǎ珹ミ猭Ы猭臮拜種ǎず硂崩﹚獶荡癸窽讽Τ惠璶狦镑靡Τ闽恶祘琌ゲ惠ㄒ⊿Τㄤㄑ匡拒硚畖恶跋砍笵隔秆∕拜肈τ赣笵隔琌ゲ惠杠ê琌龟︽硂琌縒ミτ芠猭種ǎチ囊谋眔硂兜種ǎ瞶τタ絋и-
やΤ闽兵蹿﹚狦現┎ぃや杠讽礛ㄤ伐狠猭種ǎпΡ硂ㄇ種ǎぃ筁и-
紉高ミ猭Ы猭臮拜種ǎ叫拜セЫ某獺ヴミ猭Ы臮拜種ǎ临琌獺ヴ現┎猭種ǎ㎡陪現┎膏睦Τㄤ現獀種и辨某狦獺ヴミ猭Ы猭臮拜縒ミ猭種ǎ叫やиタ讽礛某タは癸Τ闽兵ゅ狦ぃ種俱兜兵ㄒ弄矗は癸琂礛沮ミ猭Ы猭臮拜種ǎ硂崩﹚獶荡癸窽и辨某ぃ璶現┎瞶パは癸и矗タ
谅谅畊
Question on the amendment put.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
Mr Edward HO claimed a division.
︙┯ぱ某璶―翴∕
CHAIRMAN: Committee shall proceed to a division.
〆穦畊セ畊稱弧杠砰〆穦顶琿產ぃ笵碞或某肈щ布材2兵㎝穝糤1硄筁材3兵琌┮孔consequential amendment莱璹埃"翠"τパ"いァ翠"蠢-
ぃ尺舧ê崩﹚杠ê或on the question: That clause 3 stand part of the Bill碞vote "NO", the same goes for clause 4, 碞琌弧amendment to clause 3 琌礚闽璶產∕璶笵︑∕或セ畊獶-
や┪は癸琌Τセ畊碞弧硂獶現獀籔現郸Ч礚闽セ畊弧碞琌量絑⊿Τ安砞clause 3 as amended is negatived 薄猵amendment to clause 3ぃ莉硄筁и-
穦矪瞶產"clause 3 as amended"硂, 癸ぃ癸弧ぃ﹚Τ某は癸amendment to clause 3璶琌硄筁杠琌"as amended"
︙┯ぱ某畊иフ碞琌絑⊿材3兵......
〆穦畊⊿拜肈ê琌簗奔渤硂琌琎ぱ边暗Τㄇэ笆產弧癸材3㎝材4兵Τ眏疨種ǎ┮璶╊秨ㄓ琌材234兵癬∕琂礛產弧材3㎝4兵蛤材2兵㎝1ぃ妓┮だ秨ㄓ暗
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈:朝岸穨某碞材3兵タぉ硄筁
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊﹟ろ叫癸┮ぇ∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the amendment.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 31 votes in favour of the amendment and 21 against it. He therefore declared that the amendment was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θタ31は癸21琌ガタ莉硄筁
DR LEONG CHE-HUNG: Mr Chairman, I move under Standing Order 37(4) that in the event of further divisions being claimed in respect of the remaining motions at the Committee stage of the Protection of the Harbour Bill, at this sitting, the Committee do proceed to each of such divisions immediately after the division bell has been rung for one minute.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
某ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clause 3, as amended, proposed and put.
竒タぇ材3兵ぇ某竒矗某繦窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
CHAIRMAN: Committee shall proceed to a division. There is only one minute.
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈:竒タぇ材3兵兵ㄒ
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 31 votes in favour of the motion and 21 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ某31は癸21琌ガ某莉硄筁
Clause 4
兵ㄒ材4兵
朝岸穨某璓勉畊и笆某タ材4兵タず甧更祇癳倒︗〆ゅンず
硂兜タ璶碞セЫу场だ琌盢"翠"场だ璹"いァ翠"闽琌やセЫуи辨產硄筁セタタ兵ㄒщは癸布ㄤ龟產ぃ莱は癸セタ︓タ莱は癸硂琌拜肈辨產瞷ㄇ丁谅谅
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 4 (See annex XXIV)
兵ㄒ材4兵ǎンXXIV
砏购吏挂現璓勉畊碞м砃よㄓ弧и莱碞タ琌闽いァ翠祇ē瘤礛タ材4兵"いァ"﹚絛瞅ご礛砏﹚翠恶祘斗竒ミ猭Ыуи-
粄狦硂妓暗翠恶祘砏购㎝祇甶ノ硚砫ヴ獽穦パ︽現诀篶锣簿ミ猭诀闽ご礛琌穦耑睹ㄢ┮购だ戮砫
︽現诀闽璽砫﹚現郸穦矗ㄑ狝叭и-
览称恶某吭高そ渤のミ猭Ыビ叫挤蹿︓崩︽璸购ミ猭Ы玥璽砫菏北挤蹿ㄤ龟ㄣ称糵恶祘舦タご结ぉミ猭Ы肂舦︽現∕﹚ㄏミ猭Ыㄣ∕у恶祘舦
よи-
粄ぃ阶瞣疉絛瞅琌翠临琌いァ翠ミ猭Ыごゼㄣ称ì镑兵ン磅︽︽現戮叭兵ㄒ砏﹚恶祘斗竒パミ猭Ыу秈︽玱⊿Τ冈灿弧ミ猭Ы︙у硂ㄇ祘闽ミ猭Ы穦琵そ渤碞览某祘矗は癸種ǎ獽秈︽そ秨测癟甧砛癸ミ猭Ы∕﹚矗禗单拜肈タ兵ㄒ⊿Τ矗の癸ミ猭Ы沮或非玥у┪∕恶祘某⊿Τヴ︙ㄣ砰弧タи┮弧璝ミ猭Ы︽ㄏ硂у某舦穦猭糵膀硂ㄇ現┎ご礛は癸竒タ兵ㄒ
︙┯ぱ某璓勉瘤礛и睲贰笵瞷祘琌闽タ材4兵タ砏购吏挂現┮弧狦иは癸材4兵杠獽莱祇ēぃ阶タ籔иご穦щは癸布
砏购畍厩穦妮и-
ㄤい厩穦赣厩穦伐は癸硂兜某カ砏购〆穦"砏穦"纯竒ㄢ畊兵ㄒ〆穦穦某伐は癸硂某粄硂碞钩р兜洪カ砏购ユぉミ猭Ыパミ猭Ы踞讽癬砏穦讽礛さミ猭Ы某︑粄琌竒パ匡庢玻ネ┮ぃ阶或ㄆ薄ㄒ布基┪ㄤ︽現ㄆ﹜-
璶恨硂妓弧琌ミ猭Ы惠璶︽現よや穿矪璶竨叫砏购畍だ猂拜肈獽ユミ猭Ыパミ猭Ы测钮の秈︽兜祘眖ㄆ砏购盡穨常伐は癸硂暗猭
嘲糠某ご礛粄現┎⊿Τ港種辅龟穦钡и某┯空硂и稰Τ翴ア辨ㄆ龟現┎琵˙兵ㄒ〆穦临ゼ矗硂某玡現┎⊿Τр糵翠ノ硚ユぉ砏穦τ琌ウ矗吭高琌瞷現┎ビ穦硂妓暗翠ノ硚穦ユパ砏穦赣穦猭﹚戮砫磅︽穦倒ぉそ渤矗種ǎ┪矗は癸诀穦硂┯空琌だ睲贰嘲某辨镑硄筁┮矗兵ㄒτ粄絋獺ぃ琌┯空璝琌硂妓杠и-
龟礚猭膥尿臛阶
闽硂よи辨︗ㄆσ納睲贰產ボや砞﹚崩﹚и-
盢璶臛阶琌砏购戮砫㎝莱ユパミ猭Ы磅︽и辨產は癸硂兜某
MISS CHRISTINE LOH: There are divided views in the Council as to whether the Legislative Council should take on this role, and I shall not waste Member's time on this point anymore because I think it has been well discussed in the Committee and also we have discussed this in today's debate.
But I would suggest that in the longer term Members remember what the Town Planning Board said when it came before the Bills Committee, that it itself would like to have legal powers to exercise its work rather than just what the Government is offering, which is administrative means. This is something that the Council in future can pursue.
Secondly is the point about having a strategic planning advisory body which will look at strategic planning for the territory as a whole. This is still something we are going to need in the future, and again I just want to take a little bit of time to remind Members that this is something we can continue to pursue in the future.
︙┯ぱ某璓勉и稱Ω坚睲翴嘲糠某酵のカ砏购〆穦"砏穦"笲ボ現┎洪︽現よや皌砏穦τ獶猭﹚舦戮
ㄆ龟カ砏购兵ㄒ絋﹚砏穦現┎讽礛Τㄤш簍à︹ê獽琌砏穦踞讽或ㄒ砏穦览称だ跋乎瓜ㄑノ硚︘ノ硚单硂よ⊿Τэ跑︓ヘ玡и-
ぃ骸琌現┎⊿Τ砏穦跌翠ノ硚
︓ヘ玡ゎ現┎ご琌恶砏穦﹚ノ硚琌瞷現┎ボ钡и-
種ǎ恶玡穦砏穦糵某恶縩の恶ノ硚硂獶獂︽現暗猭τ琌猭い龟悔琜篶
朝岸穨某璓勉畊иぃフ︙某㎝現┎は癸パミ猭Ыу恶祘㎝硂或佩砓ㄆ龟筁產纯竒硂妓暗瞷┪ゼㄓ穦硂妓暗砏购吏挂現筁┕ㄆ叭〆穦村弧и-
Τ闽ミ猭Ы璶┦ボミ猭ЫΤ舦糵у盢ㄓ恶祘現┎穦セЫビ叫挤蹿
癩叭〆穦"癩〆穦"璹ぃ阶筁瞷┪盢ㄓ讽現┎璶秈︽恶祘τ斗璶笆ノそ┊ゲ斗パミ猭Ы∕﹚糵у璝琌現┎叭祘ゲ斗眔挤蹿秈︽
琌瞷玱Τ弧璶―ミ猭Ы挤蹿ミ猭Ы礚斗局Τ盡穨醚璶у挤蹿獽τ砏よτēゲ斗璶Τ盡穨醚糵у恶祘硂琌或呸胯硂倒"Τㄆ灵礚艫礚ㄆ甃琄"稰谋传杠弧讽Ы璶―挤蹿ボ某Τ戈の秈︽糵у叫某у某ス璶ミ猭秈︽砏恨パミ猭Ыу恶讽Ыボミ猭Ы⊿Τ盡穨戈硂獶ミ猭Ы絛瞅и龟ぃフ硂呸胯
產妓琌ミ猭Ы某癩〆穦穦某畊獽璶у挤蹿秈︽恶祘﹁纒恶祘㎝í濸à恶祘衡砏家í濸à恶琌眔丁钡у現┎猔戈诀初恨瞶Ы讽羬诀Ыい吏恶琌眔丁钡у讽現┎猔戈臟隔そ叫ぃ璶癸и弧讽Ы⊿Τ盡穨醚┮ぃ瞶秆恶ヘ獽硄筁挤蹿
и辨某フセō┮ш簍à︹ぃ璶畊癩〆穦穦某獽Τ砫ヴ㎝舦秈︽糵у畊ミ猭Ы穦穦某獽⊿Τ硂よ盡穨醚硂呸胯琌伐ぃ瞶
и辨︗某σ納Τ惠璶叫畊倒︗某计だ牧丁σи┮弧杠琌タ絋璝琌タ絋杠叫產やи狦產ぃやи弧猭叫產ぃ璶ら癩〆穦穦某畊у恶挤蹿祘某⊿Τ戈㎝盡穨醚︙ぃр舦Чユ倒現┎и痷辨產镑芠σ︑呸胯蝴
Question on the amendment put.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
Mr IP Kwok-him claimed a division.
腑瓣辆某璶―翴∕
〆穦畊叫ぃ璶claim divisionセ畊ガ∕痷ぃ璶claim division︙┯ぱ某弧矗ㄤ龟ぃ礛讽弄"竒タぇ材4兵"セ畊钡弧"瞷窖∕"话е癬ㄓ弧杠ê琌ミ猭Ыу┮莱某璶弧杠ê弧τぃ琌弧
琖皇某Point of order畊иぃ稱硂妓–硔Τ癬ㄓ......I will do it in English "Whenever there is a vote, there is a right to call for division." I do not like it.
〆穦畊腑瓣辆某琌稱秈︽翴∕セ〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
CHAIRMAN: You are right, Martin.
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈: 朝岸穨某碞材4兵笆某ぇタぉ硄筁
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr James TIEN, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the amendment.
Mr Frederick FUNG, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr Bruce LIU and Miss Margaret NG abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 26 votes in favour of the amendment and 23 against it. He therefore declared that the amendment was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θタ26は癸23琌ガタ莉硄筁
Question on clause 4, as amended, proposed.
竒タ兵ㄒ材4兵ぇ某肈竒矗某
︙┯ぱ某璓勉畊и-
ノ玡丁癚阶材4兵兵ゅиぃ稱秈︽癚阶ぃ筁朝岸穨某弧и矗のミ猭Ыぃ莱踞ヴ砏购и-
⊿Τ盡產硂拜肈朝某祇ē瞷眔だ縀笆и稱產睲贰フミ猭Ы妮癩叭〆穦Τу現┎秨や硂ぃセЫ59︗某常Τ硂或約獂盡厩醚癩叭〆穦糵某現┎某и-
﹚祘獺苦現┎ㄤ︽現琜篶暗Тウ莱暗ㄆ薄ゑ獵皑爵祘惠璶挤蹿и-
礚斗Τ盡穨醚┪丁暗璸衡砞璸Τ⊿Τ岿粇琌ノ臟и-
ぃ硂妓暗и-
﹚璶籔現┎徊Θ現┎︽現诀闽穦ㄤ盡穨絛瞅磅︽狦笿胔好よи-
讽礛矗借高┪ㄆ叭〆穦拜睲贰の璶―綷Τ闽戈秈︽糵у琌и-
穦獺苦現┎
タи弧筁カ砏购〆穦Θㄓ︑盡穨刮砰の穦顶糷赣穦盡砫糵某カ砏购璹カ砏购屡瓜τ砏购竝玥璉矗ㄑ盡穨よや㎝戈ㄏカ砏购〆穦镑磅︽и辨坚睲硂翴
甃ㄎ瞶某璓勉癸ぃ癬畊и稱弧碭杠材и稱弧и碙朝岸穨某材и璶ㄇ莱и稱弧ミ猭Ы㎝蒥砏购〆穦"砏穦"ぃ莱弧琌Τ硂よ醚и種朝某┮弧セЫ某﹚Τ醚暗眔︓琌镑钩盡穨暗眔ê或иぃ稱種ǎи獺ぃミ猭Ы某ぃ丁穦Θ砏穦ΘㄏさぱΤ砏穦〆程璶ぃ琌醚拜肈程璶はτ琌à︹拜肈闽硂よи獶弧ミ猭Ы某⊿Τ醚琌à︹ぃ癸и硂妓弧畊и筁┕ョ纯竒讽筁砏穦Θ琌и谋眔砏穦〆à︹㎝иさぱГミ猭Ы┪ミ猭Ы癩叭〆穦"癩〆穦"Θу挤蹿à︹ぃи-
畊癩〆穦穦某沮硂拜肈糵某挤蹿㎝и-
ミ猭Ы秈︽臛阶Τㄇだㄏだゼゲ碞à︹ㄓ弧Τぶ砛だㄤいよ琌現┎矗某琌タ絋の糵某そ┊琌程ㄎ快猭иぃ稱弧產笵癩〆穦à︹莱赣琌或妓
畊и稱眏秸翴и谋眔ミ猭Ы┪ミ猭Ы某┮簍à︹ぃ琌踞讽砏穦〆
谅谅畊
法此某璓勉畊и稱莱ㄢ翴材闽現┎ノ┪砏购竒パミ猭Ы糵уㄆ產ぃノび候眎︙┯ぱ某弧筁и-
癩叭〆穦"癩〆穦"獺ヴ現┎現┎矗ユセЫゅン琌街璽砫㎡ぃ琌パ某︑级糶τ琌パ現┎级糶琂礛產癩〆穦獺ヴ現┎盡穨キ產ミ猭Ы秈︽糵у膥尿獺ヴ現┎現┎ご礛穦暗村弧癸盾ゅンぃ琌パи-
级糶ぃ琌パ朝岸穨某级糶玥產借好朝岸穨某㎝и盡穨キ瞷ゅン㎝戈常琌パ現┎璽砫矗ユ硂秆睦現郸琌現┎﹛琂礛и-
癩〆穦獺ヴ現┎盡穨キ︙ユパミ猭Ы糵у穦礛ぃ獺ヴ現┎㎡┮產礚斗び佩稺
瘤礛翠俱ぱ常盡穨本現┎硂或盡穨碞琵ウ膥尿玂盡穨礚斗э跑ぃ筁璶ǐ˙畊︙璶ǐ˙㎡︙嘲糠某㎝朝岸穨某矗璶硂妓ǐ˙㎡︙璶ㄏ現┎琁現よǐ˙㎡產常硂或Γ窵現┎ョ琌硂或Γ︙临璶ǐ˙㎡
и琌稱拜產差筁┪某籔產ǐ筁镭そ堕讽產ê或恶祘穦稱癬或某びキ郴辨ㄇ或狦產みΤㄇ綺历杠獽莱赣やㄢ︗某某ê碞琌璶現┎矗ユ某琵и-
秈︽Ω癚阶弧ぃ﹚и-
╃も琵現┎龟︽┪╃耰琵現┎龟︽碞钩ㄇ某硄筁и-
縀笆や現┎и-
–Ω常ê或縀笆や現┎弧現┎暗眔ぃ筁琵и-
Τ癚阶诀穦琵и-
玂痙翠┬砍翠莱ぉ玂痙τ
谅谅畊
朝岸穨某璓勉谅谅甃ㄎ瞶某種ǎㄤ龟и籔阶翴⊿Τ或だ.и琌婚ジㄇ弧ミ猭Ы盡穨ぃ糵уΤ闽璸购и琌婚ジ硂翴絵狦琌弧舅だ㎝à︹だ硂琌弧猭и琌は癸Τㄇ弧и-
獶盡穨獽ぃ倒ぉу硂Τベ
砏购吏挂現璓勉畊и谋眔某臛阶Τぶ砛睼睹材近臛阶い莱赣琌弧╯澈ê翠莱......
〆穦畊琖皇某琌砏祘拜肈
琖皇某琌現┎﹛ぃ祇種ǎ狦琌種ǎ碞ぃ祇ē琌現┎
〆穦畊砏购吏挂現叫坚睲琌種ǎ临琌現┎種ǎ渤
砏购吏挂現畊┪砛и莱赣弧現┎谋眔某臛阶Τぶ砛睼睹材近臛阶莱赣琌癚阶"翠"硂泊莱璹"いァ翠"硂琌臛阶闽龄瞷いみ翴琌╯澈莱沮竒璹兵ゅ琌弧┮Τいァ翠恶祘琌璶竒パミ猭Ыу
現┎粄硂兜у瞣疉よτ某谋眔癩叭〆穦"癩〆穦"璽砫у挤蹿磝搐琌秈︽祘舦琌龟悔ㄓ弧硂兜猭ㄒ┮ま癬睼瞔獶硂或虏虫硂猭ㄒま癬睼瞔р镭㎝恶祘单ㄤΤ闽猭ㄒ珹ずㄤΤ闽猭ㄒ┮Τ兵蹿㎝┮惠璶ㄖ矗ユミ猭Ы硂珹或㎡и弧琌╯澈ミ猭Ы︙у硂ㄇ某琌琵そ渤矗種ǎミ猭Ы穦秈︽そ渤测癟穦琵そ渤碞ミ猭Ы∕﹚矗は癸種ǎ┪禗
闽硂ㄇ拜肈兵ㄒセ⊿Τ矗の筁┮и-
谋眔狦ミ猭Ы禬筄癩〆穦у祘挤蹿舦临瞣疉ㄤ兵ㄒ杠獽穦钩甃ㄎ瞶某┮弧р︽現㎝ミ猭ㄢà︹Ч睼瞔┮現┎礚猭钡㎝やㄓ兵ㄒ珹竒璹瞶絛瞅タず
谅谅畊
︙┯ぱ某璓勉嘲糠某氮臛ぇ玡и谅畊倒и祇ē诀穦
嘲糠某程粄恶砏购莱ユパカ砏购〆穦"砏穦"矪瞶パ畊疉のそ┊﹚赣兜某и辨嘲某祔弧睲贰и谋眔セぃ稱硂妓暗︙瞷绊┏朝岸穨某︙籔癬绊┏㎡и辨嘲某祔弧睲贰狦痷み稱ユパ砏穦矪瞶杠и-
獽ぃ莱や矗材4兵τ钡и某琌現┎┯空盢ら翠恶ユパ砏穦矪瞶
琂礛场だ某ぃ珹и︑ず竒や赣兜崩﹚ㄤ龟笷嘲某ヘ拜肈琌材场だ闽赣パ街∕﹚и辨嘲某稱睲贰狦惠璶计だ牧丁籔朝某坝癚杠и辨畊砛嘲某硂よσ納
〆穦畊セ畊稱秆睦材4兵琌Τ闽嘲糠某兵ㄒ材4兵琌惠璶タ某肈琌盢琘兵┪竒タ琘兵セ兵ㄒ硂祘盽砏瘤礛琌讽︑笆某某稱祇ē玥繦祇ēㄤ某祇ēΤ舦弧程杠
MISS CHRISTINE LOH: I obviously do not object to clause 4. If I object to clause 4, I would have withdrawn it. The Town Planning Board was a compromise and I was prepared to consider that compromise, but since I am not able to raise that compromise I go back to my original position, which is this Council.
But let me just explain clause 4. Clause 4 does not give Legislative Council any town planning powers. It only allows Legislative Council to approve or reject reclamations as a whole. So, this is essentially a matter of judgment about whether a particular reclamation is necessary or not, whether it is acceptable to the community or not. And therefore, I believe this Council is eminently qualified to make those judgments.
Also, this Council can request the Town Planning Board's view to be tabled before Members. And I think this is a good way to proceed, Mr Chairman. As I said, I understand that people have reservations about this and I really do not wish to prolong what will be a very long debate this afternoon on other issues.
Question on the motion put.
某ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
〆穦畊: 〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
〆穦畊: Τ1だ牧惠璶т碞眔е翴
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈: 竒タぇ材4兵セ兵ㄒ
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Eric LI, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr James TIEN, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
Miss Margaret NG abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 25 votes in favour of the motion and 27 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was negatived.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ某25は癸27琌ガ某綝∕
〆穦畊硂ボ材4兵⊿Τ
Clauses 6 to 13
兵ㄒ材6︓13兵
MISS CHRISTINE LOH: Mr Chairman, there is a consequential amendment in the case that clause 4 is approved. Since clause 4 has been negatived, we should vote against those clauses. I mean, I do not know if it is possible to withdraw, but actually they will not make sense if people vote for these.
朝岸穨某畊и稱矗砏祘拜肈и稱高拜畊材6︓13兵琌ご斗秈︽щ布耕Ν玡材4兵綝∕
〆穦畊叫单单朝岸穨某琌稱矗砏祘拜肈临琌稱拜セ畊琌瞷セぃ惠璶弄材6︓13兵琌硂種セ畊瞷璶嘲糠某碞6︓13兵セ兵ㄒ某肈祇ē叫や┪は癸瞷-
ㄢрセ畊穌絢额瞷矪瞶砏祘拜肈
朝岸穨某畊琌砏祘拜肈и稱拜材6︓13兵琌ご斗щ布ぇ玡材4兵綝∕
〆穦畊ㄌи礚拜肈礚阶Τ材4兵籔琌惠璶ミ猭Ы硄筁ê蛤材6︓13兵睝礚闽玒
㏄辩睶┥某畊材13兵ㄤ龟惠璶某ê某╯澈矪瞶⊿Τ⊿Τ杠莱荡癸篗
〆穦畊ぃ癸砰〆穦顶琿兵ㄒセ畊秨﹍碞弧"That the following clauses stand part of the Bill"礛碞穦弄兵ゅ腹絏硂妓碞讽琌盢某肈ユ倒產┮讽弄材6︓13兵ê碞皑Τ某肈タ弄竒タ材4兵碞Τ某肈硄盽產常⊿或拜肈┮ミ窖∕璶祇ē硂琌材6︓13兵ス弄腹絏碞Τ某肈某肈碞琌材6︓13兵セ兵ㄒThe question "That clauses 6 to 13 stand part of the Bill" is deemed to have been proposed according to Standing Ordersぃフ瞷弄材6︓13兵朝岸穨某弧Τ砏祘拜肈セ畊粄材6︓13兵籔材4兵莉硄筁籔礚闽玒
甃ㄎ瞶某璓勉瞷逗丁и某盢穦某┿︓とㄏΤ闽ㄆ蛤畊ノ硂琿丁莱秈︽㎝琌ベ瞷Τㄢ贺ぃ種ǎ狦⊿Τ诀穦睲贰獽穦Τ陈沸
〆穦畊セ畊ガ既氨穦某と2タ確穦某
12.45 pm
と1245だ
Sitting suspended.
穦某既氨
2.00 pm
と2タ
Council then resumed.
セЫ穦某繦τ確
PRESIDENT: We will now resume the sitting. Council is now in Committee.
CHAIRMAN: Before I suspended the sitting for lunch, the Committee had voted against the question: That Clause 4 as amended by Mr Albert CHAN's motion stand part of the Protection of the Harbour Bill. Clause 4 was therefore deleted from the Bill. I have studied the Bill in its present form and the impact of the absence of clause 4 on the rest of the provisions in the Bill. The Clerk has called out clauses 6 to 13, which means the question: "That clauses 6 to 13 stand part of the Bill" had been proposed. As Members know, clauses 6 to 13 are intended to make consequential amendments to other relevant Ordinances, and there are at least six of them, if clause 4 successfully stands part of the Bill. As clause 4 has been deleted, I order that clauses 6 to 13 may not be called. In clause 2 of the Bill, which Members have voted in favour, the definition of "foreshore" and "sea bed" is included and referred to in the original clause 4. For the same reason, the definition is redundant. In accordance with Standing Order 51(2), I regard this inclusion in clause 2 as an oversight. The definition is therefore ordered to be deleted. We will now proceed to the Third Reading of the Bill.
︙玊く某畊砏祘拜肈琎ぱ┪玡ぱ矗硄筁硂ㄇ兵ゅ┮玻ネ狦и癘眔纯竒弧筁ぃ琌兜掉﹚弧パ某︑璽砫Τ或拜肈碞莱叫毙畍ō畊ぃ穦矗ㄑ種ǎぃ穦璶―現┎矗ㄑ種ǎ传ēぇ–兜兵ゅ莱パ某∕﹚硄筁籔Τ兜掉∕琌粄Τㄇ兵ゅ琌畊掉﹚ぃ莱ㄓщ布Τ翴ベ秆睦
〆穦畊砰〆穦顶琿硄筁兵ㄒㄤいΤㄇベぃ薄猵τセ畊笵Τ硂ㄇ薄猵セ畊獽︽ㄏ舦ㄒ㏑ぃ盢Τ闽兵ゅ腹絏弄ㄓτ產ぃ碞∕﹚碞琌弧ぃ甧砛產∕セ畊ぃ杠ê⊿快猭安ㄏΤㄇ琌硄筁玻ネ┣狦礚钡ベ杠畊碞ぃ莱瞶穦兵ゅず穦玻ネ或┣狦
Council then resumed.
砰〆穦繦τ確ミ猭Ы
Third Reading of Bill
兵ㄒ弄
MISS CHRISTINE LOH reported that the
嘲糠某厨孔
PROTECTION OF THE HARBOUR BILL
玂臔翠兵ㄒ
had passed through Committee with amendments. She moved the Third Reading of the Bill.
竒タ硄筁砰〆穦糵某顶琿笆某弄瓃兵ㄒ
Question on the Third Reading of the Bill put.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
Miss Christine LOH and Mr Edward HO claimed a division.
嘲糠某の︙┯ぱ某璶―翴∕
PRESIDENT: Council shall proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: This is a three-minute division bell. 3だ牧
畊某∕琌弧砰〆穦顶琿琌1だ牧瞷琌3だ牧ぃノび
畊秆睦筁辩醇翬某笆某某∕闽砰〆穦顶琿
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on the question: That the PROTECTION OF THE HARBOUR BILL be read the Third time and do pass.
Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button in the voting units and then cast their votes by pressing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 29 votes in favour of the motion and 22 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
畊ガ觅Θ某29は癸22琌ガ某莉硄筁
Bill read the Third time and passed.
兵ㄒ竒弄硄筁
Resumption of Second Reading Debate on Bill
確兵ㄒ弄臛阶
EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES (FAMILY RESPONSIBILITY, SEXUALITY AND AGE) BILL
キ单诀穦產畑砫ヴ┦渡の闹兵ㄒ
Resumption of debate on Second Reading which was moved on 10 July 1996
確せるら笆某弄臛阶
DR LEONG CHE-HUNG: Mr President, I rise again to speak as Chairman of the Bills Committee that has studied the Equal Opportunities (Family Responsibility, Sexuality and Age) Bill and three other equal opportunity Bills.
This Bill introduced is a Members' Bill introduced by the Honourable LAU Chin-shek and it is to render unlawful discrimination on the grounds of family responsibility or family status, sexuality and age in various areas and to make provisions for remedies for such discriminations.
Mr President, I shall not speak on discrimination on the grounds of family status as Mr LAU will propose subsequently to delete Part II of this Bill which, as I said earlier, overlaps in substance with the Family Status Discrimination Bill, which has been passed earlier in this sitting.
Let me now look at Part III of the Bill about discrimination on the grounds of sexuality. In the Bill, sexuality is defined to mean homosexuality and heterosexuality, while homosexuality would include lesbianism and bi-sexuality.
The Administration has conducted a study and public consultation exercise on this issue since 1995 and 1996 and announced its findings in June 1996. More than 10 000 submissions were received by the Administration, as is claimed, and an overwhelming majority, about 85%, opposed legislation. Instead, their submissions supported administrative means such as public education to promote the principle of equal opportunities and enhanced support service for sexual minorities. In view of the public opposition to anti-discriminative legislation on the grounds of sexuality and that its introduction at the present time would be premature, the Administration cannot support the provisions in Part III of the Bill.
Whilst the Equal Opportunities Commission (EOC) supports the spirit of equal opportunity as expected, it will respect the opinion of the public and the decision of the Legislature in respect of anti-discrimination legislation. It would be desirable for the EOC to be charged with the function of implementing such legislation, and to avoid confusion to the public, it is recommended that a consistent implementation machinery to be in place.
Like all other equal opportunity Bills before this Council this session, the Bills Committee cannot reach a consensus on the Bill. Some members of the Bills Committee share the views of the Administration and support the step-by-step approach in anti-discriminatory legislation. Other members consider that anti-discrimination legislation is a more effective way to protect the interests of those being discriminated, even though they might be the minorities. Public education only plays a complementary role to publicize and promote the legislation.
Mr President, let me now turn to Part IV of the Bill which is about discrimination on the grounds of age. The Administration also conducted a consultation exercise on discrimination in employment on the grounds of age in June 1996. The Administration considers that the low response rate of the public consultation paper was only about 68 submissions received by the end of the two-month consultation period indicated that this is not a pressing issue to the community.
There are also divergent views as to whether age discrimination legislation should be introduced. The Administration is therefore of the view that it is premature to introduce any age discrimination legislation at this present time. The more prudent approach to deal with the issue is through a programme of publicity, public education and self-regulation. The necessity for legislation will be reviewed as the Administration has promised in the light of the outcome of the public education exercise and self-regulatory efforts.
The Administration has also completed an analysis of the likely impact of Part IV of the Bill focusing mainly on Government policies and practices. The analysis clearly indicated that, in addition to the field of employment, the Bill would have far-reaching implications on the community and would lead to considerable problems in a wide range of areas. It is likely that other private sector activities would also be adversely affected by the Bill, so the Administration claimed.
Some members of the Bills Committee disagreed with the Administration's argument. First and foremost the approach of the Administration's consultation exercise and the resultant statistics are questionable. Furthermore, they consider that many, particularly women, cannot find a job because they are discriminated against on the ground of age. The issues unrelated to employment pointed out by the Administration are indeed areas of discrimination that needed rectification.
In response to the views of the Bills Committee, the Administration and deputations, Mr LAU will be proposing some amendments to his Bill, including parallel amendments to the Sex and Disability Discrimination (Miscellaneous Provision) Bill 1996 which was passed in this Council on 11 June this year.
I would like to say something about clause 103 of the Bill. After the introduction of this Bill and the Equal Opportunities (Race) Bill which will follow later, the Attorney General's Chambers advised us that the consequential amendments provisions in clauses 103 and 55 of the respective Bills are neither consequential to the Bills in question nor relevant to their long titles. As such they offend the prohibition on inter-mixing of subject matters in clause 25(3) of the Royal Instructions.
After examining the arguments of the Members in charge of these two Bills and the Administration, Mr President, you came to the view that both clauses are not properly related to the rest of their respective Bills. Despite your ruling that these two Bills offend clause 25(3) of the Royal Instructions through the inclusion in the Bills of the two clauses mentioned above, you are reluctant to order that the two Bills not to proceed with, both Bills having been referred to the House Committee and being studied by a Bills committee. So, you have decided that if the two Bills receive Second Readings recommendation in Council and were committed to the Committee of the whole Council you would direct the two clauses in question not to be called so that they would not stand part of their two respective Bills. If the two Bills receive a Third Reading they would be passed without the two clauses and their resultant ordinances would not offend clause 25(3) of the Royal Instructions.
The Bills Committee recommend that a Second Reading of the Bill be proceeded with.
Mr President, I would like to turn to say a few words of my own thoughts. Firstly, sexuality. Mr President, it has been many years since this Council debated and passed that homosexuality or homosexual activities be decriminalized. Yet, how much has the Government done in relation to education and to promote anti-discrimination of the homosexuals, who in the medical sense are normal behavioural patterns within the spectrum of normality?
But discrimination still abounds. If Government has not done enough, Government has the duty to respond to explain why they have not done enough. But, on the other hand, if Government has done its part and there is still discrimination, then legislation would have to be considered.
Finally, I am surprised that the Government is not convinced that age discrimination is present all the time. The issue that if you are a female over the age of 40 then it is very difficult for such a person to find a job, is clearly written all over the wall. And it is the main voice of complaint to this Chamber whenever the Bills Committee meets to receive public submissions. Yes, there could be associated operational difficulties, but such should not deter the making of legislation.
With those remarks, Mr President, I personally recommend the Bill to Members. Thank you.
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璶ミ猭坝┪沟常穦е続莱㎝非称癬ㄓ程璶琌Τ∕みぷㄤ璶琌ミ猭ぇ現┎璝硓筁龟叭玥獽紇臫荷еタ跌硂拜肈荷еσ納盢Τ闽龟叭玥-
︽現よ皐ずи谋眔莱荷еミ猭莱繦荷е璹Τ闽龟叭玥
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谋眔璝さぱ兵ㄒ镑硄筁杠現┎琌Τì镑丁干毕и-
粄狦現┎钡杠ウ琌荷е矗莱ミ猭ㄓ耎キ单诀穦〆穦舦獽ㄤ矪瞶窽ゎ猍跌拜肈и-
粄璶現┎Τ∕み璶現┎腀種щ戈方穦㎝ミ猭Ы琌莱赣や
畊Τ闽"┦渡"猍跌┪祔癚阶贺壁猍跌よ現┎尺舧まノㄇ┮孔チ種は莱ㄓㄌ耴カチ癸現┎吭高は莱┦渡猍跌秸琩よ現┎Τ85%莱は癸ミ猭だ猂挡狦и-
ゲ斗み╯現┎妓秈︽吭高㎝Μㄓ拜┮ノ惫勉琌妓ㄤ龟и痙種カチ惫勉珹"礚惠璶""ぃ"㎝"は癸"ㄤ龟硂碭贺惫勉常琌ぃは琈篈ョぃ庢ㄒㄓ弧カチ弧⊿Τ惠璶琌贺蝶︳谋眔ぃ琌硂或腨ゼゲ琌玥は癸ミ猭碞現┎癸┮孔種ǎ莱┮だ摸и-
莱赣み╯琌и-
ゲ斗眏秸翴矪瞶猍跌拜肈ぷㄤ琌チ種秸琩┪Μ栋カチ種ǎよ窾ぃ璶蹦ノ秖てよΑㄓ璶非玥и-
ゲ斗癘猍跌拜肈瞣疉ㄇ畓墩竤砰τ硂ㄇ畓墩竤砰ぃ计ぶ穦羘ぶτ︓穦溃-
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癸ㄇ秸琩┪吭高-
ぃ幢龟笷種ǎ妓临-
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畊иご稱癚阶闹猍跌拜肈硂よ現┎妓秸琩は莱睭Μ计眎拜и璶硂琌兜吭高ぃ琌現┎笆秈︽タΑチ種秸琩狦琌τ砐拜ヘ夹ア穨杠и-
獺眔ㄓ挡狦琌ぃκだゑは琈猍跌拜肈腨┦
畊闹猍跌よチ囊纯暗筁兜秸琩禬筁50%谋眔Τ闹猍跌碞穨紇臫璶―璶ミㄒ窽ゎΤ30%琌は癸硂兜冈灿秸琩パи-
チ囊谅ッ闹痴璽砫τ穦產冈灿秆睦и-
谋眔斗璶ミミ猭窽ゎ闹猍跌ㄆ龟и獺ぃΤ穦璉春ㄆㄏ琌だ跋匡ㄆ钡牟膀糷匡チョ穦笵拜肈腨┦ㄢ玡и-
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ゲ斗ミ矪瞶и辨穦ㄠ產ㄆ粄痷σ納﹚璶ミㄨさぱや硂兜兵ㄒㄏи-
翠镑ㄣ砰ミ猭よΑㄓ辅龟埃猍跌㎝Τ闽埃猍跌そ砫ヴセ略朝勉
朝胞糭某璓勉畊и羛穦祇ē畊и眖ㄆ骋㎝包笲笆硂いи絋龟穦癸и-
骋ぃ琌包临Τい╆Τ闹猍跌篈籔и-
俱穦玱禫ㄓ禫粄芠├碞琌–ネ穦常Τ︑舦珹舦ゑ耕癬ㄓ翠硂よ陪琌辅畊ии瞏砰穦祇谋硂拜肈иぃ琌弧フ杠狦и-
把σ現┎Τ闽骋笆把籔瞯戈繦獽计ㄓ陪竒蕾吏挂闹猍跌薄猵钩翴竒蕾吏挂ぃ薄猵玱琌腨
и稱㎝產だㄉ计沮硂┦把籔闹薄猵︙㎡25烦︓29烦琌72.4%40烦碞︓53.4%硂翠骋笆候眎現┎碞硂崩︽块骋璸购琌ㄏ硂竒蕾吏挂闹猍跌拜肈ヘ玡︙㎡き и程眔き计 き┦淮把籔瞯琌82.8%き烦碞︓30%オ硂眔猔種硂ㄇ计ぃ琌и级τ琌眖現┎把籔瞯计沮眔ㄓ╧┦︙㎡╧┦妓闹猍跌拜肈ぃ筁碩⊿Τê或ぶ翴τ╫琌妓硂タま靡и骋瞏砰穦さぱи-
弧翠竒蕾挡篶锣硂贺锣玱Τ筁锣筁и-
竒蕾锣ぃ疉のセ借э跑礚阶妓锣跑и-
ご矪骋笆盞栋穦吏挂琌瞷玱陪и-
眖骋笆盞栋锣獶盽骋笆盞栋祇甶硂琌腨
︙玊く某ボ硂拜肈箂扳穨耕腨パ︙某ぃ琌眖ㄆ骋笲笆硂拜肈ㄓ眔龟悔瞷硂拜肈紇臫琌耕┕竒蕾猵腨薄猵琌︙腨㎡材┕把籔瞯腨琌瞷き烦舱タи弧烦琌80%オき烦獽︓30%オ琌瞷薄猵琌и-
祇谋–闹舱把籔瞯ㄓтぃ禫ㄓ禫淮璶烦オ把籔瞯碩禴瞷玱ぃ琌把籔瞯熬薄猵烦獽秨﹍硂陪ボ镣墩碞琌瞷紇臫埃筁タ盽薄猵猍跌-
ョ禫ㄓ禫淮て瞷ぃ琌箂扳穨τ翠膀糷贺ョ炊筂禫ㄓ禫腨
畊и弧珿ㄆ倒钮иㄢ琍戳玡┕癳赤Τ癸烦ひ包ǐ筁ㄓи弧ōひ琌家翠瞷⊿Τ家戮︗瘤礛ぃ玱ア穨τΤㄢヾ琌┦⊿猭т烦ネㄓ弧タ琌碞穨独戳︙穦ぃ倒ぉ-
诀穦㎡硂薄猵︙τ璓и-
硂竤眖ㄆ包骋笲笆ぃ耞驰璶―倒诀穦ぉ-
硂竤琌и籔眖ㄆ骋包笲笆稰端稰讽竒蕾沟よκ璸ま讽竒蕾瞷ぃ春玱は羪礚薄現┎毙▅参膚籔и-
秨穦–讽﹛弧硂拜肈ぃи-
獽计沮借高-
硂琌︙贺薄猵の癸и-
弧ㄒΤ︙秆睦硂ぃ琌薄猵и︘┮Τ丁瑍︾┍ョ竨叫┦沟硂ㄇ常琌烦ぃт包и稱弧硂痷ぃ琌ㄇㄒτ琌ㄇ炊筂ㄒ
さぱΤㄇ弧骋筁だ澈礛璶―ミㄒ窽ゎ闹猍跌иゲ斗и-
ぃ筁だΤ计ㄤい琌タи秨﹍弧闹猍跌拜肈ョぃ琌竒蕾畉Τ竒蕾и-
ョ眖筁丁現┎骋笆参璸计沮ぃ筁筁и-
┕┕Τ翴┋笲巾诀笿琌竒蕾吏挂ぃぃ確筁ㄓ琌產或⊿祇ネ筁и-
┕┕ョ硓筁ㄤ措笵硋˙秆∕拜肈琌瞷薄猵琌ㄨぃ甧絯璝临ぃミ猭硂拜肈妓莱㎡и稱㎝產弧瞷痷ぃ虫ゎ琌箂扳穨翠┮Τ⊿Τ盡穨м砃烦獽秨﹍螟т讽礛и種и-
崩笆ㄇ沟秨﹍竨叫硂摸иバ玊某Τは莱碞琌G2000秨﹍竨ノ琌硂玱琌眔ㄓぃτ瞷ョΤぶ沟硂妓暗τ-
繦穦跑快㎡祔バネ穦癬ㄓ弧"иΤ▆みぃ璶иミ猭ㄒMichael TIEN碞竨ノ硂ㄇ"ぃ筁и稱蛤バネ弧Τ▆み沟琌ぶ......
畊バ玊某琌稱矗砏祘拜肈璶―坚睲
バ玊某и琌璶―坚睲
畊璶―坚睲场だ
バ玊某иさぱぃ稱蛤酵硂拜肈
朝胞糭某絵и碞ぃ弧и琌苂砛钮ぃフ酚現┎阶翴俱穦タ硋˙甧硂ㄇ┮莱赣⊿Τ拜肈ぃノミ猭и谋眔硂阶翴籔и-
俱穦薄猵ぃ才眖计玡и秨﹍刁㎝穌穦笲笆硂计丁и-
佩み穦瞷禜т螟闹舱タ硋程琌き烦ㄓ跑Θ40烦ㄓ跑Θ烦瞷玥跑Θ30烦硂ㄇゅてм砃タ癸贺贺猍跌螟笵現┎ご弧ぃミ猭盾螟笵璶禲刁ボ︽盾и粄さぱи-
ㄆ矗Τ闽窽ゎ闹猍跌某琌Τゲ璶砛ㄇ穦拜︓琌眖ㄆ穦笲笆穦拜╯澈ノミ猭も琿笷骋禗―㎡︓Τ癸и-
弧ミ猭窽ゎ闹猍跌ぇ程沧ア穨иぃ種ミ猭ぇи-
"ゴ"ゲ﹚穦玂毁秈┍ず刚沟稰骸種稱竨ノ蛤沟叫ōだ靡ㄓ讽筁獽叫莱紉產ミ猭ぇ程ぶи-
ぃノ穕甡讽礛沟盢ㄓтㄇ虑秆沟и谋眔硂琌ㄆи-
秈︽禗砠碞ヘ玡ㄓ弧程ぶ穦Τ膀糷骋常璶―ミ猭Τ猭ㄒ玂毁程ぶ刚ぃノ沟硓臩闹ぃノ闹拜肈τ猍跌妓ミ猭ぇ┦獽ぃ穦沟硓臩盉癟ミㄨ赤ア刚诀穦鲸恨и種ミ猭ぇ穦瞷穝拜肈沮и眖ㄆ骋笲笆㎝包笲笆竒喷и谋眔琌ぃ螟莱狦ミ猭ぇΤ穝拜肈玻ネи-
穝Ч到璹Τ闽猭ㄒ硂环耕ぃミ猭ㄎ
畊埃闹猍跌иさぱョ稱菠酵┦渡拜肈и-
羛穦包ㄆ叭〆穦癸┦渡硂场だΤ瞏ㄨ砰穦τи-
ョ種–穦常莱Τ︗竚ぃ筁и稱蛤︗ㄆ弧骋硂拜肈種ǎご伐だ猍τ场だ種ǎご緻玴肚参芠├紇臫硂┦渡拜肈ご惠璶и-
穦笲笆膥尿崩笆ぃ筁и羛穦包ㄆ叭〆穦穦弄щや布
畊セ略朝勉谅谅
糂胺祸某璓勉畊セ︑パ囊碞糂ホ某┮矗兵ㄒボ種ǎ
琵иビ︑パ囊荡癸や莱ㄉΤキ单诀穦玥и-
瞏獺璶Τ玃秈キ单诀穦ゲ斗眔約カチやカチ渤璶笵琌或ㄆ珿︑パ囊粄翠ま秈は猍跌猭ㄒゲ斗蹦场碞痁よ猭兵ㄒ〆穦ずи纯拜筁糂ホ某︑眖きи-
ま秈┦猍跌兵ㄒ㎝摧痚猍跌兵ㄒㄓ穦Τ祇ネ筁ヴ︙ㄆ珿τ糂某谋眔ゲ斗瞷ま秈材兵は猍跌兵ㄒ倒ぉミ猭Ыσ納讽糂某⊿Τタ氮滦и硂拜肈ボ谋眔は猍跌兵ㄒ莱荷еま翠硂ミ初ㄤ龟籔糂某砮ミ初琌璓やセ翠莱荷еまよは猍跌猭ㄒи-
辨碙︑パ囊砮ミ初и-
ぃ琌は癸は猍跌猭ㄒτ琌谋眔は猍跌猭ㄒゲ斗碻亥秈场碞痁硋˙龟琁
и-
セЫΩ"キ单诀穦"癸翠ㄓ弧琌耕穝阀├瞷セЫ糵某は猍跌猭ㄒ琌и-
ㄆ矗ㄓ-
把σ瓣竒喷Τ闽兵ゅ琌把酚緿瑆㎝单瓣ㄇは猍跌兵ㄒ拜肈琌-
よ把σ瓣兵ㄒよ玱⊿Τ把σ瓣ま秈は猍跌猭ㄒㄇ暗猭ㄒ緿瑆-
琌せ秨﹍ま秈は猍跌猭竒筁丁ささらΤ甅ゑ耕Ч俱τ矪瞶よ拜肈猭ㄒ緿瑆琌蹦ノ碻亥秈よΑま秈兵猭ㄒ把σ竒喷礛ま秈兵皐癸贺猍跌硂ㄇ瓣產常琌秈瓣產キ单诀穦よ琌臱ㄒ緿瑆獽琌︙-
把σ產ê或程璶よ︙崩笆は猍跌猭よ玱Чぃ臮瓣场︽ㄆ竒喷绊翠ゲ斗㎝Ω筁ま秈猭ㄒ程甅ノ臮翠まは猍跌猭菌祘ㄤ龟и-
琌暗眔ぃ岿и-
き竒ま秈ㄢ兵猭ㄒ┦猍跌兵ㄒ㎝摧痚猍跌兵ㄒτ硄筁產畑盺︗猍跌兵ㄒ硂顶琿︑パ囊粄カチご斗ひㄓ秆㎝て硂ㄇ猭ㄒ-
ゲ斗秆猭ㄒ璉阀├睲贰笵-
猭ㄒぇㄉΤ或玂毁㎝糹︽︙贺砫ヴ沟玥斗璶秆兵は猍跌猭ㄒず甧波┛牟デ猭ㄒ┷璓腨挡狦瞷兜兵ㄒ常盢竭纕肂篗綪跑Θ礚砫ヴ
畊ㄆ龟︑眖┦猍跌兵ㄒ㎝摧痚猍跌兵ㄒ﹚ㄓ沟宽硂ㄢ兵兵ㄒよ非称-
琌把酚骋矪璹沟赌龟叭玥浪癚そㄆ現郸㎝︽現祘続讽э辨璹現郸┪祘才猭ㄒ砏﹚Τㄇそ临穦竨叫臮拜碞硂よ某硂贺贺逼疉の㎝戈方產琌ぃ硂よ
膥尿崩笆キ单诀穦セЫ矗璹ミ兵猭ㄒ產畑盺︗猍跌兵┮沟莱は猍跌ぇ緇临璶縩伐材兵產畑盺︗猍跌兵ㄒョ璶現郸よ祘よΤ︙惫琁э莱硂兜穝兵ㄒ
︙カチ渤㎝沟タ粄醚3兵瞷Τは猍跌猭璶硄筁兵猭ㄒ狦さぱ糂ホ某兵ㄒ硄筁杠瘤礛璶Μ產畑砫ヴ场だи-
ご礛璶矪瞶┦渡㎝闹ㄢよ猍跌拜肈и-
璶みσ納琌痷璶硂丁まㄇ猭ㄒ矪瞶よ猍跌糂ホ某兵ㄒ珹ㄢよ猍跌琌闹㎝┦渡τ独窥ㄤ军某祔ョ穦贺壁よ矗兜兵ㄒи-
琌璶硂丁まよは猍跌猭ㄒ㎡и-
ョ璶拜﹚硂ㄇ兵ㄒΤ闽沟琌Τì镑㎝戈方皌猭ㄒ璶―㎡
и-
猔種兵ㄒ⊿Τ倒ぉ沟ヴ︙糴戳︑パ囊粄硂琌ぃ钡璶続莱碭兵は猍跌兵ㄒそ﹟穦稰︙猵琌ㄇそ-
㎝戈方讽Τ狦⊿Τ倒ぉ糴戳и獺硂ㄇそ磷牟デ猭ㄒ穦砆挡犁穨
︑パ囊Ч觅硂兵猭ㄒ璉弘碞┦渡㎝闹よи-
粄∕﹚琌惠璶ミ猭ぇ玡и-
莱σ納瞷穦炊筂钡祘の拜肈琌痷タ腨︓ミ猭秆∕せ現┎纯碞┦渡秈︽吭高︙玊く某矗筁硂兜吭高挡狦禬筁Θ滦ぃ觅Θ碞┦渡猍跌よミ猭滦や現┎硓筁ㄤ︽現惫琁埃┦渡猍跌иぃフチ囊碞ㄇ秸琩猭癸琘ㄇ秸琩-
粄琌虑眔ㄌㄒΤ闽ㄢぱ玡碞猭狝叭兵ㄒ臛阶チ囊纯秈︽兜筿杠秸琩挡狦ぃ琌びΤκだ翴莱︙某碞粄璶ご礛は琈カチ渤粄猭狝叭琌斗璶ミ猭э粄琌璶σ納
さぱ︙玊く某チ囊祇ē酵┦渡猍跌秸琩挡狦鲸恨Θ琌ぃ觅Θミ猭ご弧ぃ觅Θぃ单﹚ぃ斗璶ミ猭ぃ觅Θぇ丁ごΤㄤぃ種ǎ礚阶挡狦︙ご绊莱璶ミ猭и稰睼瞔祔叫ㄇチ囊某睲贰и-
╯澈-
︙種ǎ秸琩㎡琌秸琩挡狦続-
ノ獽ウ秸琩挡狦ぃ続-
ノ獽弧琌⊿Τノ矪狦硂妓杠痷ぃи-
琌ご璶秸琩
︑パ囊粄い瓣ゅて瞏玴紇臫カチ礚好粄┦攀㎝蛮┦攀笻は肚参笵紈芠├琌カチは癸碞猍跌┦渡よミ猭ぃボ-
觅猍跌┦攀㎝蛮┦攀︽-
琌踞みス碞は┦渡ミ猭獽单觅Θ┦攀┪蛮┦攀︽и稱硂よカチご礛琌ぃ钡︑パ囊穦み╯兵ㄒ
и-
临Τㄤ好拜硂兵ㄒ硄筁產畑赌沟琌ぃ赌┦渡τ┶荡竨ノ赣┪竨ノ祇谋-
Τ┦攀┪蛮┦攀渡沧ゎ沟ノ-
㎡產Τㄠ產穦沟ノㄇΤ┦攀┪蛮┦攀渡赌-
穦踞み-
穦踞み硂贺┦渡穦癸-
ㄠΤヴ︙紇臫穦紇臫ㄠみ瞶よ祇甶㎡-
Τ踞み踞み穦紇臫-
ㄠτ沧ゎ沟ノ-
材踞み璝沧ゎ沟ノ穦┷璓ㄇ猭狦穦笻猭璶竭纕单璶ㄇ產┯硂贺踞み琌琌そキ暗猭㎡
и-
ゲ斗候癘產畑赌蛤ㄤ沟┦借Τ伐だ-
琌沟產い蛤沟㎝沟ㄤ產ネ管沟舦ぃ琵-
匡拒-
╬よ赌龟Τろそすи稱翴秈緿瑆は猍跌猭ㄒ﹚┦渡よ碞產畑赌┪酚臮ゼΘㄠ担よ-
倒ぉ僚ぃ甧猭ㄒぇず翠痷琌玡徖翠崩笆キ单诀穦よи獺痷琌耕緿瑆㎝秈叭龟
︑パ囊ョ猔種ㄏ糂ホ某┮矗兵ㄒ莉眔硄筁磅︽ョ穦笿螟硂兵兵ㄒ籔┦猍跌兵ㄒ摧痚猍跌兵ㄒ㎝硄筁產畑盺︗猍跌兵ㄒぃビ㎝砆ぃ硓筁ヴ︙摸キ单诀穦〆穦诀秈︽ㄇ秸秆τ–﹙ビゲ斗よ猭皘矗ビτゲ斗竒筁ぞ㎝禥ビ祘眔ビ禗猭皘秖讽礛琌穦糤
и-
璶拜硄筁兵磅︽穦Τ螟猭ㄒ琌続讽㎡闹猍跌よ兵ㄒ瞇籠絛瞅籔現┎瞷︽現郸㎝惫琁が笻璉庢ㄒτē現┎45烦┪そ叭矗ㄑぃ┬褐璸购τ牡牡粅皐癸ㄇゼΘ㎝デτ砞临Τ現┎矗ㄑ穦戈方狝叭ρ皘㎝璸购单硂ㄇ現郸惫琁硄筁┦猍跌硄筁闹猍跌猭ぇ╯澈Τ︙紇臫㎡ㄤ龟瞷ㄓ弧и-
Чぃ磝搐眔Чゼ蝶︳ゼЧ磝搐㎝ゼЧ蝶︳闹猍跌猭癸硂ㄇ現郸紇臫ぇ玡瞯硄筁猭ㄒ穦癸穦硑Θ≧阑畊膀瓃瞶パ︑パ囊は癸糂ホ某兵ㄒ
谅谅畊
肅繟某璓勉畊糂ホ某矗Τ闽キ单诀穦產畑砫ヴ┦渡の闹は猍跌兵ㄒ硂拜肈チ羛粄莱蹦碻亥秈のσ納㏄冈よΑиゲ斗羘ㄤ某ぃ璶τチ羛Ι碪チ羛や猍跌硂琌は琈и-
秆拜肈狡馒┦τフ︽ㄆ国狠ぃ稱緗蝉︽ㄆ┦猍跌兵ㄒ㎝摧痚猍跌兵ㄒ龟琁︓さ临ぃ丁蒥チご礛斗璶ㄇ丁秆㎝続莱狦硄筁碭兵摸猭ㄒ蒥チゼゲ镑て眔ㄓ
糂ホ某矗キ单诀穦產畑砫ヴ┦渡の闹兵ㄒ種琌玂毁蒥チぃ穦膀產畑砫ヴ┦渡の闹猍跌ㄤ兵ㄒぃぶ簗瑌狦ス磅︽穦癸穦硑Θ瞏环紇臫闹猍跌ㄒヘ玡現郸砏﹚Τ18烦╧┦﹡チΤ戈ビ叫砍狦硄筁Τ闽猭穦現郸跑眔ぃ猭
и刚庢ㄒ丁蝗︽矪瞶70烦めビ叫笷25处ビ叫ョ穦σ納禪蹿闹玂毁蝗︽痲兵ㄒ⊿Τ碞硂よ璹ミ僚兵ゅ蝗︽∕﹚琌禪蹿倒めσ納ㄤ闹︽跑Θ笻猭
闹猍跌よチ羛粄讽Ы莱み╯跌穦癸ミ猭埃闹猍跌┯賋璢Й锚翠祇甶は猍跌秈祘
︓┦渡拜肈翠ご礛琌伐ㄣ某┦の蔼庇稰拜肈現叭纯碞硂拜肈紉高そ渤種ǎΜ窾種ǎ讽いΤΘは癸ミ猭硂吭高挡狦陪ボ蒥チ絋ぃ種ミ猭窽ゎ┦渡猍跌
畊蒥チ╯澈琌粄硂猭璉基芠癸らち龟磅︽猭ㄒ癬闽龄┦ノ狦セЫ某ゼ砰诡チ薄禩礛硄筁兵ぃ渤钡猭穦現┎磅猭瞷螟ョ穦硑Θは狦猭ㄒ璶窽ゎ猍跌跑眔腨某獽穦跑Θ"み暗胊ㄆ"
チ羛は癸ミ猭窽ゎ┦渡猍跌觅Θ蹦︽現惫琁ㄒ崩︽そチ毙▅喘キ单诀穦玥―埃癸琘贺┦渡ぶ计粇秆ㄏ钡-
常莉眔キ单诀穦舦
キ单诀穦〆穦琌ぃ穦把籔硂兵兵ㄒ龟琁﹠ゲ斗竒筁ぞ㎝禣ノ蔼ビ祘よ猭皘矗ビ踞み硂兵兵ㄒㄏ莉眔硄筁ゼゲΤ玂毁﹠
畊セ略朝勉は癸弄
MISS CHRISTINE LOH: I support the Honourable LAU Chin-shek's Bill and I urge all Members to do likewise. In fact, I believe the majority of this Council are ready to support legislation against age discrimination, so I will not spend any time going into it, and I believe the Honourable Miss CHAN Yuen-han has given much food for thought for anyone who is still wondering whether we need age discrimination legislation or not.
I would therefore like to appeal to Members to go one step further and do this in the concluding sitting for this legislative session to further enhance equal opportunities in our community. I want to appeal to Members to support or at least not to oppose the provisions in this Bill which seeks to combat sexuality discrimination.
In all the time that the Administration has looked into this particular area, it has never mentioned the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights in connection to sexuality discrimination, but the fact is that the Covenant obliges the Hong Kong Government to provide effective remedies against such discrimination. Although the Covenant does not expressly refer to sexual orientation, the Covenant's general obligation to eradicate discrimination applies to discrimination on that ground no less than it applies to discrimination on the ground of sex, disability or indeed age.
The commonest application to sexuality discrimination was underscored in 1994 in a decision of the United Nations Human Rights Committee whose view on the meaning of the Covenant are highly authoritative. The decision concerned a challenge against legislation in the Australian state of Tasmania which criminalized private homosexual activity, legislation of the type repealed here in 1990. What is relevant to our debate today, Mr President, is that the Human Rights Committee expressly indicated that the Covenant's anti-discrimination provision applies with full effect to discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
But despite that obligation, the Administration urges Members to back away from legislating because it says the community is not ready. This argument is deeply unsatisfactory. The Administration's job is to lead, not to follow or to stand still, and nowhere is the need for leadership more acute than where fundamental human rights are at stake. It is precisely the Administration's application of leadership that has forced Members so often to bring forward Bills of their own, and as you know, Mr President, it is not easy for Members to bring up Members' Bills. It involves a lot of work and a lot of our very meagre resources.
The Administration's refusal to lead is especially disappointing because where sexuality discrimination is concerned there is in fact so little distance to be traversed. It is simply wrong to assert that the community is not ready for this legislation. The Administration bases that assertion on last year's consultation results. The consultation generated 184 of what it termed substantive written submissions. 81 of these supported legislation and 84 were opposed. That is hardly, Mr President, a decisive result. The Administration's negative stance, therefore, rested heavily on 9 850 pre-printed forms, 85% of which opposed legislation. Of those no fewer than 8 329, that is, Mr President, virtually all of them, were identical forms solicited from a single religious group. Is this really a sound indication of the whole community's view on this subject? In my opinion, to reject discrimination legislation on such a basis makes a joke of the Administration's purported commitment in principle to equal opportunity.
The Administration also took a poll as part of the consultation and, deeply flawed though the poll was, its result was revealing. The poll made no effort, I suspect, deliberately to engage Hong Kong people's sense of tolerance and fairness. Indeed, it asked questions designed to elicit and explore aspects of prejudice against homosexuals. What is striking is the superficiality of the prejudices it uncovered. The poll did not reveal any strain of hatred or of ideologically concentrated animosity towards gays or lesbians. What it did show was discomfort, for example, about adoption by homosexual couples, about homosexual school teachers, or about sharing a flat with a gay or a lesbian. In other words, Mr President, it showed reservation about intimacy and about child-raising, areas where caution naturally reigns supreme, as the Honourable Mrs Miriam LAU highlighted earlier on.
This is the kind of prejudice that is borne of ignorance and unfamiliarity, the kind that is readily susceptible to a sustained and serious effort to open people's minds. Unfortunately, the Administration does not want to make that effort. The public education initiated last year has been ill-informed and grossly under-funded. A few crumbs are being thrown to social service providers in the gay community, a pittance drawn ludicrously from an off-budget, charitable Cemeteries Fund controlled by the Secretary for Home Affairs. Let there be no
mistake that this is not a serious programme.
Most importantly, we know that public education on equal opportunity cannot really be effective unless it is backed by law, a step the Administration resolutely resists. And Mr President, we must not forget what drove the Administration to propose legislation on disability discrimination. It is precisely because there were heart-breaking examples before they were willing to do anything.
Meanwhile, public prejudice remains the norm and is the cause of a great deal of silent suffering in the community that remains for the foremost part invisible. Members should not mistake such invisibility for non-existence. Invisibility is a result of discrimination and not a reason to allow discrimination to continue.
For these reasons, when voting in regard to sexuality discrimination, I urge Members to follow their conscience rather than the Administration's backward-looking lead. No one will find himself or herself politically embarrassed by doing so. Legislation against sexuality discrimination is controversial primarily because the Administration chose to make it so. If the Administration had taken the lead I believe the way forward would have been much smoother. It still could be. Hong Kong is basically a tolerant and fair-minded community that cares much more about productivity than about identity. What counts is what you can do, not who you are.
In that spirit, I hope, Members will support these Bills to prohibit sexuality discrimination.
谅ッ闹某璓勉畊チ囊や糂ホ某兵ㄒи稱眏秸程璶琌現┎秈︽琌吭高и-
σ納琌吭高挡狦ぃ琌笆秸琩挡狦糂胺祸某だぃ睲或吭高㎝或秸琩珿讽祇谋吭高挡狦ΤΘカチぃ钡┦攀碞崩阶-
ぃやミ猭玂毁┦攀ㄤ龟硂妓阶翴琌獶盽岿粇吭高Τ秸琩吭高ぃ膀┾妓传ēぇ琌稱笷種ǎ穦┪ㄤ贺Αㄓ笷種ǎ秸琩碞ぃ秸琩琌┾妓珿獺祘荡癸蔼иゲ斗眏秸現┎琌硓筁吭高ゅンㄓΜ栋種ǎ現┎蹦ノ眔ㄓ计沮崩阶Θは癸┦攀琌ぃそキよぃ钡┦攀禫タ陪ボ翠猍跌薄猵禫腨莱赣ミ猭琌计沮ぃ莱ㄓやは癸ミ猭ㄤ龟礚阶產尺舧籔常笵翠程ぶΤ4%︓5%┦攀-
膀セ舦琌ぃ镑┛跌
材翴某︓カチミ猭玂毁┦攀ぃ猍跌碞琌单躬纘┦攀硂妓稱猭ㄤ龟Ч琌岿粇ミ猭ヘ夹琌玂毁ぱ结舦玂毁ぃ┦渡舦ぃ管и-
ぃ琌翠躬┦攀︽и-
ゲ斗碙Θ┮∕﹚磷猍跌┦攀и眏秸チ囊ミ初琌璶―ミ猭硂ぃボи-
や┦攀
Τㄇ某毙▅獽ì镑êノミ猭㎡ㄤ龟琌毙▅ЧΘは猍跌よ㎡狦琌毙▅獽︽杠ê或佛ぃゲ籃蹿翠穦睲间τㄏ⊿Τ猭ㄒ恨翠穦か礛パǎ某ノ毙▅虑ㄤ龟琌︑篡篡產常睲贰ゲ﹚璶猭ㄒ㎝毙▅が皌︽и獺祔現┎ゲ穦瞷猍跌薄猵ぃ腨腨ミ猭ぃ筐琌矪瞶舦硂妓ぃ腨德㎡璶Τ猍跌ㄏ琌и-
莱赣玂毁ぃ单ΤΘ窾砆猍跌暗ひи粄硂妓琌荡癸荡癸ぃ璽砫ヴ
Τㄇ矗碙肚参阶翴弧穦基芠ぃ钡琌穦︙穦钡㎡钮絵糂胺祸某祇ēи临瑈畉ぃ璶ノぃそキ猍跌よΑㄓ胓籃┦攀穦基芠讽礛璶и-
玱ぃ琌矗┦攀基芠и-
琌矗贺基芠猭玡キ单ぱ结Τ妓舦︙┦渡ぃ碞ぃㄉ籔妓穦狝叭硈毙▅︓т㎝ど戮紇臫
畊狦и弧ミ猭Ы某璝琌┦攀杠碞ぃ讽畊弧琌︙单ぃそキ㎡и-
琌σ納ぃ琌σ納┦渡畊鲸恨渤種腀璶玂毁渤膀セ舦-
猍跌璶琌さぱ璶弧翴璽砫ヴミ猭ぃ莱ノ渤縒掉ㄓ玠ㄓ篡溃渤膀セ舦ㄤ龟и-
璶―琌或и-
璶―琌鲸恨┦渡ぃΤ闽よビ叫戮︗よō盡穨︽穨よ临Τ毙▅穦狝叭㎝﹡︘よ常莱籔霍硂ㄇ常琌膀セ膀セ璶―ㄤ龟и-
琌璶―┦攀Τ把籔穦舦и-
ぃ镑琵硂竤︑и超
畊狦さぱ猭ㄒぃ硄筁獽痷琌舦癶-
常弧翠秈˙竒蕾よ琌舦玂毁よ翠ㄤ龟琌だ辅
糂胺祸某Τ计現囊и-
莱赣宽︽碻亥秈场碞痁ド琌-
碞琌弧硂碭Ч⊿Τ丁Ч⊿Τㄣ砰よ禗и-
或琌碻亥秈场碞痁ㄤ龟и弧瞷琌碻亥秈场碞痁⊿Τ璶―さぱΩ筁ま┮Τは猍跌猭ㄒ狦и璸衡眔非絋杠さぱ莱赣琌材˙ㄢ玡材˙竒︽瞷临ぃ琌碻亥秈и辨某ぃ璶т"咀絙礟"碻亥秈"咀絙礟"瓜┵焚ㄇ膀セ舦
︑パ囊糂胺祸某弧-
絋やキ单诀穦ョやは猍跌︑パ囊玱穦щは癸布硂╯澈琌或呸胯硂琌︙贺弘硂蛮夹非弧ぃ稦璝︑パ囊篈琌硂妓杠碞ぃノ酵-
弧や琌磜∕玱щは癸布穦某魁-
碞弧眔︹琌癸ㄇ┦攀硂ㄇ囊Τ︙秆睦弧и-
や-
璶管-
舦盾硂弧ㄓ囊常チ囊暗╯竒盽まノ计沮-
拜さぱチ囊まノ计沮秆睦︙ウさΩぃやΤ闽種ǎ计沮и稱ㄇ丁磞瓃パチ囊秈︽筿杠種ǎ秸琩讽и-
Θ砐拜528カチㄤいΤΘ粄翠闹猍跌ョΤ禬筁Θ粄現┎埃闹猍跌よひ琌暗眔ぃ镑パǎ現┎崩笆埃闹猍跌よ琌痷Τэ到и-
秸琩挡狦ョ陪ボΤ55%砐觅Θミ猭窽ゎ闹猍跌τΤΘ琌ぃ觅Θ羆τēи稱さぱと闹猍跌硂场だ莉硄筁ぃ筁┦渡硂场だパ現囊筁だ玂竚舦ぃ瞶玥穦綝∕ぃ恨妓闹猍跌ご礛琌ぃ癸и-
璶σ納快ㄆτぃ琌闹и-
璶竨叫哎琌莱赣钡蚌癡А斗跌膀セτぃ虫ゎ琌闹и-
莱赣ミ猭窽ゎ-
ㄏノㄇ⊿Τ瞶パ夹非ㄒ闹单и辨現囊某竒筁σщ布粄痷╯и-
痷ぃ琌躬翠把籔┦攀и︓ぃ琌璶や┦攀琌и-
玱璶―硂技渤ㄉΤ籔и妓局Τ舦
谅谅畊セ略朝勉
某璓勉畊產睲贰笵さぱ臛阶ㄤ龟琌きミ猭Ы穦戳程Ω穦某Τ闽キ单诀穦臛阶┑尿и辨さぱ挡狦琌籔Ωぃ
Ω璊ド某璓勉い"ЫずЫΤ砛やキ单诀穦猭-
種в獶盽绊眏さぱ璝礛ア毖ぱ穦ㄓ"弧êㄇョ珹и︑ず瞷璊ド某ㄓ產痷ㄓи-
さぱ痷盢猭ミ猭Ы臛阶Ωи辨さΩ挡狦籔Ωぃ
糂胺祸某弧ㄤ龟竒盽璶沟钡Чンㄆ璶钡材ンㄆ璶钡材ンㄆ琌穦沟ぃи粄и-
︙ぃΩ筁硄筁Ч俱キ单诀穦兵ㄒê或沟獽ぃノさぱ秆┦猍跌ぱ秆摧痚猍跌ぱ秆產畑盺︗猍跌闹猍跌单и-
狦Ω筁沟莱赣琌Τキ单诀穦ぃ碞琌ㄓ眔甧ㄤ龟璊ド某┏竒現┎矗ユ︑兵ㄒ現┎ぃミ猭礛る璊ド某矗ユ兵ㄒ倒ミ猭Ы現┎ぃ眔匡ㄤいㄢンㄆ钡狦現┎讽钡俱兜兵ㄒ翠獽Ω筁粄醚キ单诀穦阀├翠沟翠炊霉渤常穦钡穝毙▅キ单诀穦毙▅ㄤ龟キ单诀穦猭ㄒセō種竡琌或㎡ノ綡キ弧杠ㄓ秆睦碞琌"ぃ阶堵窟フ窟璶ъρ公獽琌窟"沟ぃノ瞶穦沟┦闹┦渡㎝產畑盺︗璶沟Τ快ㄆ獽璝Τ瞯沟︙ぃ竨叫㎡и癘眔Τ钮筿約冀Τㄇ沟ゴ筿杠は癸竨叫┦攀-
弧ㄏ┦攀羙-
ぃ腀竨叫-
ㄤ龟硂芠├琌璶э跑硂芠├セōぃ琌▆恨瞶よ猭さぱи-
闽猔琌▆恨瞶よ猭▆恨瞶よ猭琌êτ∕﹚倒或の琌竨叫τぃ琌ㄤ籔礚闽さΩ俱兜猭ㄒ弧琌辨秆沟р-
眖ㄇ芠├い秆ㄓ眖ㄇ猍跌芠├い秆ㄓ-
蹦ノ▆恨瞶よ猭礛斑魁ノ翠膙糤眏カチ㎝ね︑ㄤぃ穦︑ㄇ疭借τ猍跌
︑パ囊弧やキ单诀穦τチ羛ョ辨и-
ぃ璶弧-
や猍跌и稱и-
ぃ穦弧-
や猍跌ぃ筁и-
璶-
琌甧г猍跌и獺-
ぃ琌や猍跌玱琌甧г猍跌甧г猍跌弧眔腨ㄇㄤ龟琌竜辨產ぃ璶甧г猍跌τ莱щ布や埃猍跌糂胺祸某胔好拜肈琌硂或腨㎡弧拜筁糂ホ某硂ㄢ祇ネ或ㄆ玃ㄏまは闹猍跌㎡и谋眔セぃ琌硂ㄢ拜肈τ琌硂ㄓ祇ネ筁或ㄆ
︑眖竒蕾锣ㄓи-
眔睲贰狝叭┦︽穨琌猍跌包骋ê竤籹硑穨ぃ锣穨ㄤい碞琌闹猍跌ㄒи-
戮穦羛幅纯竒秸琩筁厨彻約т刚тゴ筿杠拜挡狦祇瞷ΤΘ琌Τ闹猍跌ㄤいせΘ腀竨叫30烦硂琌或笵瞶㎡︙Τ30烦暗ㄆ㎡ㄒㄇ绘┍碞琌さぱи弧绘┍ご琌竨叫25烦и癘眔Ω祇ēずиΤ矗の︓さぱご⊿э跑硂⊿Τミ猭临Τㄇκ砯そウ-
ご琌竨叫30烦┪琌35烦皊加琌硂妓さぱご礚э跑硂ㄢ祇ネ筁或ㄆ硂ㄢ┮祇ネンㄆ碞琌薄猵セ礚э跑筁闹猍跌薄猵膥尿包骋ご稰"30烦т螟"璚猵狦產腀籔包骋酵酵獽甧稰-
璚磑тぃê贺礹璚包碞穨羛畊穦某祏祏ㄢずΜ栋帽–帽み羘碞琌"и琌︗包и粄穦炊筂癸包闹猍跌薄猵ㄏ包碞穨ぃそキ癸"и眏疨璶―現┎ミ猭窽ゎ闹猍跌硂包み羘辨產ぃ璶簔跌硂み羘狦さぱ猭ㄒ硄筁и-
辨┪琌包骋だㄉ"逗窲"τ礚斗闹よ猍跌礚斗т-
闹獽-
ぃ穦ぉ竨叫┪-
產单筿杠硄硂ㄇ礘硂ㄇ璚磑и-
辨ぃ穦瞷讽礛ョΤ弧ぃ琌毙▅ぃノミ猭и-
ㄤ龟ョ睲贰笵ミ猭琌毙▅秨﹍ぱぃミ猭ぱ獽⊿Τ毙▅狦и-
穦璹ミ夹非翠穦琌穦碙猭狦碙猭杠沟獽穦秨﹍э跑芠├硂碞琌毙▅┮
程и稱矗и┦渡よ猭穦常穦弧ウ-
穦ぃ钡┦渡猍跌ミ猭иフウ-
穦ゼゲ钡琌硂よи-
ぃノ炊硄翠カチ芠翴и-
璶眖甡à狦甡セō琌︑┦渡τ砆钡猍跌稰穦妓и粄и-
莱赣-
Ч倪紇臫Τ疭┦渡禗и-
-
セōセぃ幢禗-
︑┦渡-
璶留旅狦-
弧ㄓ獽穦砆猍跌︙и-
穦璶硂ㄇㄆ㎡ㄤ龟弧计は癸ミ猭玂毁Τ疭┦渡硂拜肈よи-
琌ぃ钡计種ǎ︙㎡瞷и-
タ弧琌碙腨舦ㄏΤ甡碙腨穕êㄏ硄筁璶ê碙腨穕и-
莱玂毁甡徖舦и稱硂琌и︑眏疨玥и-
ぃ钡ヴ︙猍跌ㄏ计硄筁癸ㄇ猍跌猭и-
琌ぃ钡
и辨產癬や糂ホ某さぱ兵ㄒ谅谅畊
郭Θ某璓勉畊иチ虏虫祇ē笷и-
癸硂ㄢ兜兵ㄒ猭
琵и弧弧闹猍跌よ翠Τ⊿Τ闹猍跌㎡現┎吭高ゅン挡阶Τ届吭高ゅンㄇ龟猵秸琩陪ボ闹猍跌琌ㄇ耕淮㎝―戮―戮よ骋蒥初い琌矪耕ぃ︗竚ゅン沮ㄇ獶龟猵秸琩厨彻┷竨約秸琩┪闹舱秸琩单現┎ぃ﹚Τ⊿Τ闹猍跌ぃ筁и-
チ笵闹猍跌琌τ穦よョは琈龟悔闹猍跌薄猵и-
獺闹猍跌翠琌
闹猍跌㎝キ单诀穦よチやキ单诀穦㎝は猍跌現郸τ筁チョや硄筁3兜兵ㄒ珹┦猍跌摧痚猍跌㎝產畑盺︗猍跌兵ㄒさぱи-
癚阶ㄢ兜兵ㄒи-
稱и-
ミ初и-
粄は猍跌兵ㄒ璝璶Τ笲蒥チ疭ㄇ"ゴ"矗ㄑ龟借腊程獽砞ミТ到磅︽诀㎝秸秆и-
種現┎ㄤい翴猭璶Τ龟琁硂ㄇ猭ㄒ獽斗璶砞ミ磅︽诀ㄒ瞷キ单诀穦〆穦单獽秸秆蒥チΤщ禗ぃノ皑禗窖猭畑ゴ﹛癸ρ馏㎝"ゴ"常⊿Τ矪程痲穦琌畍τ矪瞶猍跌拜肈よキ单诀穦〆穦瞷沮硄筁3兜兵ㄒ矪瞶猍跌щ禗さぱ顶琿キ单诀穦〆穦à︹璶鲸恨и-
璶硄筁ㄇ猭ㄒи-
ョ辨キ单诀穦〆穦荷秖踞讽璶à︹玥碞穦ま癬睼睹
︙и-
やは癸闹猍跌琌硂琌兜╬兵ㄒキ单诀穦〆穦ぃΤ┮把籔硂翴翠蒥チ常ぃ睲贰︙チ穦やミ猭窽ゎ闹猍跌㎡и-
璶Τ碭芠翴材и-
獺瘤礛キ单诀穦〆穦猭ㄒ⊿Τà︹ウЧΤみ瞶非称璽癬磅︽猭ㄒ㎝秸秆à︹堡現┎︓さごぃ腀種龟借┯空硓筁ミ猭よΑ砏恨闹猍跌拜肈瞷薄猵琌窾ㄆ称ろ狥и-
ろ妓狥﹁碞琌璶ㄏ現┎暗ンㄆи-
耞粄讽硂兵猭ㄒ硄筁現┎穦抖瞶Θ彻暗ンㄆ秈︽ㄇ干ミ猭┪璹兵ㄒ盢キ单诀穦〆穦à︹猔兵ㄒず硂兜兵ㄒョ穦τ跑ΘΤネ㏑癸щ禗Τ兜Ч俱兵ㄒち翠薄猵и-
╯穦瞷猵籔現┎㎝キ单诀穦〆穦磝搐戈㎝ウ-
種耞さぱチщ布穦やキ单诀穦は猍跌兵ㄒい闹猍跌场だ材IV场だ猭
程璝さぱ硄筁闹猍跌场だミ猭и-
璶―現┎荷е干ミ猭盢キ单诀穦〆穦à︹猭ㄒぇず
癸┦渡の贺壁猍跌よи-
粄現┎ご秈︽吭高㎝浪癚τ硂よ翠钡祘ごゼì镑ゼΤ続讽皌ㄏミ猭常琌玧眏玧眏琌⊿Τ┋褐и-
辨現┎冈灿吭高㎝浪癚続讽矗ミ猭翠癸よ猍跌砏恨Τ猭ㄒ玂毁
畊セ略朝勉
辩模┚某璓勉畊さぱ癚阶猍跌猭ㄤ龟疉の璶阶翴碞琌и-
琌続﹜硂ミ猭
и癘眔毙▅参膚ㄆ砛㎝ㄓ╯硂拜肈︓ㄆ緿瑆㎝﹁孽秈︽龟秸琩讽穦ミ猭薄猵︙讽某ョ︑鼻竬籔-
︽硂は琈現┎縩伐贝ミ猭┮盿ㄓ狦иだ猋洁現┎硂よ現┎龟獶盽縩伐矪瞶硂拜肈贝ミ猭穦癸穦盿ㄓ或狦硂龟ぃ甧﹚
よ狦и⊿Τ岿粇瞶秆畒某ē阶㎝⊿Τ岿筁ㄆ龟Τ闽猍跌拜肈癚阶ㄤ龟獶硂ㄢㄆτ琌玡ㄆ狦現┎Ν硂或縩伐秸笆и-
薄猵穦蛤瞷ぃ堡現┎⊿Τ硂妓暗
現┎眏秸璝ぃミ猭秈︽毙▅崩約и獶Чは癸秈︽毙▅琌季み︑拜硂碭現┎毙▅よ笷或Θ罿肚或狦毙▅㎝肚玻ネ狦︙иτēи程闽猔碞琌┏㎝ㄢぇ玡ê竒蕾ぃび籹硑︽穨典罽уねぃ籹硑︽穨锣狝叭┦︽穨т碝堡硂竤纯竒獵琄㎝癸翠竒蕾癪膍ね癸竒蕾典罽稱锣穨ぃパ闹-
ぃ狝叭┦︽穨旧璓-
ネ羮螟㎝璚и稱狦現┎筁Τ暗毙▅㎝肚︙ご穦瞷穦瞷禜瘤礛現┎眏秸毙▅ㄓ秆∕拜肈и玱痷Чぃǎ筁Τ或Θи戳辨現┎靡沮ㄓ龟龟やΤ狦ぇ弧弧狝и-
ぃミ猭и-
靡硓筁毙▅琌镑眔Θи辨硂よ靡沮
碭︗ㄆ纯弧и-
琌礚ーミ猭現┎⊿Τ龟悔暗э跑ぃ穦瞷龟程璶琌ミ猭籔毙▅琌⊿Τ侥ミ猭ぇ秈︽毙▅獶ミ猭Чぃ暗ヴ︙毙▅и稱眏秸翴畊さぱи-
硄筁硂兵ㄒи辨現┎镑猽ノ筁弘縩伐崩︽毙▅肚硂兜猭ㄒず甧フ硂兜兵ㄒは琈ㄓ痷龟阀├の┮瞇絛瞅ㄏ翠蒥チ硂ミ猭筁祘い镑痷タΘ俱穦硂阀├镑Θ癬ㄓи稱硂琌ンだ璶ㄆぃ璶и-
ミ猭Ыず琌縩伐崩笆ミ猭獽ㄆи辨盢ㄓ現┎穦挤戈方㎝瞏㎝灿給崩約硂兜猭ㄒи-
穦痷Τ埃猍跌瞷禜瞷
畊セ略朝勉
独岸藉某璓勉谅谅畊ㄆ弧筁阶翴иぃ穦狡и祇ē琌虏祏
и钮絵计現囊ㄆ祇ē谋眔︑パ囊ミ初睲捶㎝ㄢ玡臛阶硂兜兵ㄒ妓ご粄瞷ぃ琌続讽诀秈︽ミ猭ㄢさぱ-
ご礛蹦ノ妓瞶パ糂胺祸某琌盢ㄢ玡量絑弧筂︑パ囊ミ初獶盽睲贰膀セ︑パ囊ぃ觅Θミ猭よΑ埃猍跌硂ㄓ獽Τベ-
弧や埃猍跌膀セ玱ぃやミ猭ぃ筁и稱疭矗琌チ羛糜模﹙某㎝チ毒浪膀某ㄢ玡琌やミ猭埃猍跌и硂妓弧產弧и陆侣眀琌タΑ穦某魁(Hansard)琌ぃэㄢ玡チ羛糜模﹙某㎝チ毒浪膀某琌やミㄒ埃猍跌ぃ琌闹毒浪膀某贺壁產畑砫ヴ┦渡﹙毙の現獀獺├单よ常猍跌薄猵讽硂ㄢ︗ㄆ常щ布や璊ド兵ㄒ
畊朝胞糭某琌砏祘拜肈
朝胞糭某琌砏祘拜肈畊独某弧糜模﹙妮チ羛иぃ粄糜模﹙妮チ羛и辨独岸藉某睲贰笵糜模﹙琌羛穦捌瞶ㄆさぱ羛穦朝胞糭某穦や硂よи稱矗眶
畊癸ぃ癬硂獶砏祘拜肈
独岸藉某谅谅畊и琌糜模﹙某琌チ羛и⊿Τ弧羛穦τиョ笵羛穦琌やチ羛肅繟某弧璶碻亥秈и钮ぇ临瞷琌臛阶現эよ璶碻亥秈ㄓぃ琌チ羛–よ璶碻亥秈╯澈"碻亥秈"硂琌或㎡и瞶秆琌チ羛┮碻亥秈琌钮㏑ㄊㄊ弧獽ㄊ弧獽璶碻亥秈╯澈︙琌玡ㄢミ初獽Τ硂妓э跑㎡ㄢ玡やㄢさぱ玱は癸㎡
畊иぃ稱弧眔びぞ程иぃ笵チㄢ玡穦Τ硂或э跑瞶パ㎝瞶沮チ耕Ν玡弧-
4布Ыず琌程ㄣ龟4布オセЫщ布挡狦ㄢ玡毒浪膀某╯澈琌Τ1布礚锚Ыㄏ琌や璊ド某ぃ硄筁獽ぉや瞷琌眏秸ê4布琌程ㄣ龟紇臫挡狦┮さΩぃ腀や璝さΩや獽穦硄筁Τ闽は猍跌兵ㄒ程и粄やそ竡琌暗ㄇそ竡ㄆ薄硂琌程ㄣ龟
谅谅畊セや兵ㄒ
Mr Bruce LIU tries to speak again.
郭Θ某稱Ω祇ē
畊瞷琌弄臛阶ぃΩ祇ēセ畊Τ砏祘拜肈┪琌璶―坚睲
毙▅参膚璓勉畊и穦栋い癚阶兵ㄒ疉の闹猍跌场だ現叭祔穦癚阶兵ㄒずΤ闽產畑砫ヴ㎝┦渡场だи稱矗и俱砰癸硂兵兵ㄒ碭翴猭の癚阶Τ闽吭高材硂兜兵ㄒ癸穦︓ㄤ璶瞷︽現郸㎝狝叭常穦盿ㄓ瞏环紇臫⊿Τ蝶︳兵ㄒ穦︙紇臫翠カチぇ玡獽Γミ猭Ы矗硂兜兵ㄒ癸穦俱砰痲琌⊿Τ矪и稱场だ某㎝現┎纯璶―兵ㄒ〆穦碞Τ闽闹场だ約獂吭高紇臫㎝刮砰沮и瞶秆〆穦粄⊿Τ丁珿ぃ钡硂兜璶―иぃフ"⊿Τ丁"琌或種и稱癘魁и祔穦碞闹沟赌ぇㄤ絛氓庢计陪ㄒ
材翴眔и-
闽猔琌沮兵ㄒ材74兵㎝材76兵兜砆跌Τ猍跌Θだ瞷︽現郸㎝猭ㄒ莉僚沮и┮硂ㄢ兜兵ゅ琌把σΤ闽猭ㄒτ某τ硂ㄇ猭ㄒ莱ノ絛瞅㎝玱Τ猭皘哪睦翠まノ硂ㄢ兜璶僚兵ゅ盢穦ま︓ぃ薄猵硂翴琌眔и-
闽猔
礚阶ミ猭Ы某┪穦А碞穨よ闹猍跌拜肈祇ぃぶ種ǎи稱ビ現┎ミ初и-
獺瞷顶琿崩︽尿そ渤毙▅肚㎝︑и砏恨璸购琌秆∕拜肈程続讽暗猭狦璶э跑そ渤篈硂癸郸琌耕ミㄒ恨Τи-
竒甶秨Τ闽珹碭兜
1. るい秨﹍и-
硓筁筿跌冀肚祏㊣苸沟┷竨莱σ納莱紉τぃ琌-
闹
2. и-
盢祇沟赌龟叭ま旧沟︙埃碞穨よ闹猍跌
3. 骋矪硓筁贺肚笆崩約キ单碞穨阀├癸碞穨よ綝闹猍跌矗ㄑ狝叭
莱朝胞糭某祇ēи-
龟悔⊿Τ┛菠穦场だ璶癸螟ョЧ⊿Τ﹚闹猍跌
辩模┚某祇ē┕ボ猋洁毙▅参膚ぃ筁玱ぶや現┎ミ初и辨穦猋洁и蛤弧杠碞琌и-
穦浪癚и-
弧惫琁璝硂ㄇ惫琁ゼэ跑そ渤篈и-
ぃ穦逼埃ミ猭┦传ēぇ璝靡絋Τ惠璶и-
腀種σ納ミ猭㎝毙▅蛮恨霍秈˙秆∕闹猍跌拜肈琌璽砫ヴ現┎и-
ぃ種硄筁兵摧ぃ猭ㄒ兵ㄒ疉の碞穨よ闹猍跌兵ゅ称闽猔ㄤ龟埃碞穨兵ㄒㄤ籔闹猍跌Τ闽兵蹿ョ穦癸и-
ら盿ネ盽ㄓぃ紇臫
肅繟某庢Τ闽紇臫蝗︽矗ㄑ禪蹿の現郸ㄒи稱庢ㄇㄒ弧硄筁硂ㄇ兵ゅ盢穦ま︓ぃ▆狦の靡硂兵ㄒ簗瑌иだ闽猔兵ㄒ材62兵沮硂兵ゅ﹛ミ㎝戈い厩┶Μ禬筁厩闹穦牟デ猭ㄒ庢盢穦厩璸购厩肂㎝ら盽笲よ盿ㄓ龟悔螟ョ穦紇臫毙▅借
ぃぶ瓣悔砰▅恨瞶诀篶窽ゎ禬筁琘闹ヴ掉┪そ靡沮兵ㄒ材68兵翠硂妓暗琌笻猭︽セ砰▅舱麓翠庢快瓣悔┦辽ㄆ獽穦癸螟沮瞷︽挂現郸現┎у糵緄ōだビ叫ㄓ翠籔產刮籈ビ叫闹琌ㄤい兜σ納50烦常ぃ穦莉眔уㄓ翠籔刮籈τ骸21烦ョぃ穦莉ㄓ翠籔ダ刮籈и-
猭種ǎ粄兵ㄒ材54兵羛材71兵穦硂兜現郸跑Θぃ猭よ玂毁ゼΘ褐τ矗ㄑ僚材74兵玱ぃ僚硂薄猵
翠舦猭兵ㄒ材11兵璹挂猭ㄒㄒ薄猵硂兜兵ㄒ⊿Τ硂妓暗珿兵ㄒ莉硄筁現┎獽斗埃闹传ēぇヴ︙ぃ阶闹А緄ōだビ叫ㄓ翠籔ダ┪刮籈硂妓琌穦腨紇臫セ翠挂恨現郸Τ瞷︽┬現郸㎝惫琁琌疉の闹珹矗ㄑ現郸蔼闹纔皌璸购┪ΤΘ產畑莉纔絪皌︘そ砏﹚ビ叫︘そ㎝﹡程ぶ骸18烦睲╊現郸紇臫50烦┪戈虫ō莉竚︘︘そ50烦玥莉竚︘い锣そのビ叫め膟18烦ㄑ緄ビ叫硄盽莉眔钡诀穦耕龟琁硂ㄇ現郸㎝惫琁ヘ琌璶玂毁惠璶穿のだ皌Τ┬戈方∕﹚Ωぃ筁沮硂兵ㄒ龟琁硂ㄇ現郸㎝惫琁穦砆跌Τ猍跌Θだ兵ㄒ材89兵琌Τ闽蔼闹矗ㄑ︘诀篶矗ㄑ僚琌ㄤ瞇籠絛刮ゼ珹瓃┮Τ現郸㎝惫琁
洛励狝叭よ絋玂続讽㎝才Θセ痲よ猭ぃ闹舱矗ㄑ疭洛励狝叭Τ琌惠璶璹闹ㄒ祇纔膚倒炊硄禘禘┮近戳痜眞矗ㄑ箇狝叭ㄠ担ぃ穦猔甮璢の厩ネ矗ㄑ玂胺狝叭㎝厩担洛玂胺狝叭单硂兵ㄒ莉眔硄筁沮材71兵и-
ゲ斗沧ゎ瓃狝叭
畊程и稱矗ㄢ翴材現郸㎝︽現よ闹琌σ納現┎璶膀だ瞶パ礛穦闹狦钩硂兵ㄒ妓盢┮Τ闹常单猍跌礛盢そ現郸┪︽現ず疉の闹兵ゅ场硂稱猭龟ゼΤ翴ギ竂
材瘤礛兵ㄒョ珹僚ㄒ薄猵兵ゅ搭淮兵ㄒ癸琘ㄇ絛氓┮盿ㄓ璽紇臫琌俱砰ㄓ弧硂ㄇ兵ゅ龟⊿猭絋玂瞷︽現郸㎝惫琁ぃ穦兵ㄒ紇臫
畊硂兵ㄒΤ簗瑌览よョろ瞶稱硄筁硂兵ㄒぃ虫ゎ癸穦睝礚痲矪はτ穦盿ㄓ腨拜肈㎝玻ネ睼睹薄猵и苸叫︗某щ布は癸糂某兵ㄒ
谅谅畊
4.00 pm
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THE PRESIDENT'S DEPUTY, DR LEONG CHE-HUNG, took the chair.
瞶畊辩醇翬某既穦某
毒浪膀某璓勉谅谅瞶畊и瞷稱莱场だ某癸и借高のボи︑癸硂兜兵ㄒ猭膀セΤ闽キ单诀穦兵ㄒよチㄤ龟玥琌Чやи-
粄よ琌癸璶硂妓玡秈穦戳и-
щ觅Θ布や矪瞶6贺猍跌粄程程镑硓筁猭よΑ矪瞶琌猭よΑ程ご璶跌現┎穦妓暗㎝妓莱硂琌材翴
材翴琌矪瞶猍跌诀セō矗ㄑ程虏倍よ猭ㄓ矪瞶砆猍跌笿拜肈讽癚阶硂拜肈キ单诀穦〆穦ごゼ砞ミ讽ê兜兵ㄒ砆硄筁ぇ現┎獽縩伐矪瞶硂拜肈挡狦玡Θミキ单诀穦〆穦τ赣穦ョタ矪瞶ㄇ╧キ单诀穦拜肈癚阶ぇチ粄砞ミキ单诀穦〆穦硂摸舱麓程炊霉渤猍跌矗ㄑよ獽щ禗よτ硂щ禗よ镑Τ戮矪瞶щ禗さぱ癚阶ㄢ兜兵ㄒ某パ猭畑矪瞶璝パ猭畑矪瞶炊霉渤獽ゼゲê或甧矗щ禗琌璝蹦ノ硂贺诀タ郭Θ某┮弧程磃ぃ穦琌砆猍跌τ琌畍郭某单и琌庢暗ㄒ琌畍痲τ炊霉渤ョゼゲ莉猭穿腊挡狦カチ猍跌ぇ临璶σ納╯澈璶ぶ窥籔ゴ﹛璶ぶ丁逼戳猭畑
и-
粄パさΩ癚阶琌某╬兵ㄒ珿ぃ盢诀ユ倒キ单诀穦〆穦硂璶笆ノそ┊и-
谋眔и-
琂礛竒砞ミキ单诀穦〆穦и-
獽莱赣ㄏ現┎硓筁キ单诀穦〆穦硂摸诀砞ミ摸キ单诀穦〆穦诀矪瞶ㄤ猍跌┪ぃキ单拜肈さΩи-
Τ╬兵ㄒ笷ぃヘ夹硂琌材璶翴
材璶翴碞琌ミ猭и-
璶臮の讽穦薄猵禫猍跌薄猵腨玥禫ぃ钡猍跌薄猵ê碞禫甧ミ猭俱穦蛤繦硂璹ミ猭ㄒ畊狦-
ごゼ猍跌拜肈腨┦┪カチごゼ钡ミ猭窽ゎ玥ㄏミ猭ョご瞷Τ猭ぃㄌΤ猭ぃ︽薄猵ㄇ︓穦ノそチк㏑よΑは癸硂兵猭ㄒゼ礚阶︙и谋眔环祇甶琌璶ミ猭パ瞷癚阶琌╬兵ㄒ璓┮弧虏倍诀ぃ瞷τ璶綼猭畑и癸Τ玂痙疭闹猍跌ㄓ弧硂碭ㄓ穦絋琌睲贰Τ硂よ猍跌旧璓ㄇ烦礚阶琌╧┪тよ瞷螟硂膀セぇи-
辨ミ猭硂程ミㄨ纞ㄇ沟︓独岸藉某拜チ琌┤兵ㄒ硄筁珿獽は癸㎡玡琌ぃ┤穦硄筁碞や㎡ㄤ龟癚阶6兜猍跌拜肈┪キ单诀穦拜肈Τ4兜и-
琌チやチ痷稱ぃ硄筁杠琌⊿Τ瞶パやㄤい4兜
ㄤ龟4兜い3兜竒筁さぱ材兜碞琌闹猍跌и稱狦и-
ミみぃや杠и-
莱赣┕щは癸布┪斌舦︙┕チ觅Θ㎡產弧程и-
ê4布Τ紇臫ㄤ龟琌и-
Τ4布и-
ぃ幢弧и-
4布オЫ程4布矗ㄑ膀セや计ヘиぃび钡贺ē阶碞琌弧и-
穦墓┮獽は癸タ穦墓┮チや
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沮и-
瞶秆現┎癸さぱ┮矗3兜瞷猍跌㎝ぃキ单拜肈常Τ縩伐莱癸チㄓ弧и-
痷辨現┎镑盢硂ㄇぃキ单拜肈盢ㄓョキ单诀穦〆穦┪摸诀翠疭琌炊霉渤⊿Τ叫畍⊿Τゴ﹛⊿Τ快猭盢拜肈╈┑碭礛秆∕碞-
拜肈荷е莉眔矪瞶パ硂妓и-
やΤ闽闹猍跌场だΤ闽兵ゅㄤи-
碞ぃや
SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS: I would like to take this opportunity to pay tribute to you as Chairman of the Bills Committee, Honourable LAU Chin-shek, and members of the Bills Committee for the work on the numerous Equal Opportunities Bills.
Mr LAU Chin-shek's Equal Opportunities (Family Responsibility, Sexuality and Age) Bill is largely similar to the one introduced by Ms Anna WU in the 1994 and 1995 Legislative Sessions. The Administration did not support Ms WU's Bill because it would be prudent to take a step-by-step approach in adopting equal opportunities legislation which was a new concept in Hong Kong. We were of the view that it would not be appropriate to go down the legislative route without consulting the public. We undertook then to conduct public consultation which we did last year.
On family responsibility, a majority of the submissions received indicated support for addressing the problem by the legislative approach. Based on such support we introduced the Family Status Discrimination Bill which was passed by this Council only a few days ago. The passage of the Administration's Bill signifies this Council's agreement that it is a practical step to meet the community's needs and aspirations. I am fully aware of Mr LAU Chin-shek's conviction that our Bills would have covered a wider scope. Despite the conviction that Mr LAU has accepted this Council's decision as evidenced by his proposal to delete from his Bill the part on family responsibility.
Mr LAU and Members of this Council can rest assured that the Administration will liaise closely with the Equal Opportunities Commission to ensure early and smooth implementation of the Family Status Discrimination Ordinance. In addition to enforcing the provisions in the Ordinance these are, of course, adopt public education and other administrative measures to promote equal opportunities for all, regardless of family status.
On sexuality a great deal of concern was expressed by the public as we received over 10 000 submissions, an overwhelming majority of them opposed to legislation. They were concerned about the possible impact on young people and on the traditional institutions of family and marriage if non-sexual behaviour was recognized formally through anti-discrimination legislation. Many felt that administrative measures would be more appropriate to address the problem.
We have, therefore, enhanced our efforts in this area. During the last six months we have distributed over 35 000 copies of a pamphlet in promoting equal opportunities regardless of sexual orientation. We have just printed 30 000 copies of another booklet for the same purpose. We have assisted three groups to obtain donations to help finance counselling service, run seminars and organize other public educational activities. Also, through the draft revised guidelines on sex education in schools issued by the Education Department in April this year, we seek to provide our schoolchildren with a better understanding on sexuality so that they will respect the right of persons with different sexual orientation. We will continue to monitor the situation and we will consider additional measures where necessary.
As we have said many times before, we believe that our step-by-step approach best suits the circumstances in Hong Kong where anti-discrimination legislation is still relatively new. During the last two years this Council has passed three pieces of such legislation, the last one only a few days ago. So, the public needs time to familiarize themselves with the new legislation so that they know what obligations they are required to fulfil and what rights they are entitled to. While the public is still getting used to the requirement of the Sex and Disability Discrimination Ordinances and will need to find its way through the newly-passed Family Status Discrimination Bill, the adoption of further anti-discrimination legislation as in the present Bill could be troublesome for them. This is particularly the case where the community has made clear in our consultation exercises their disapproval of legislation on sexuality discrimination and their apathy for legislation on age discrimination.
We object to this Member's Bill in principle. Nevertheless we examined it and raised our concern at the Bills Committee's meetings. I am glad that Mr LAU will move a Committee stage amendment to delete the part of the Bill on family responsibility. Be that as it may the Bill, including various Committee stage amendment's, is still unacceptable in many specific areas.
The Bill does not empower the Equal Opportunities Commission to implement the provisions if enacted. In the absence of a mechanism for mediation, aggrieved persons have nowhere to lodge their complaints except to go to the court. This means that the complainant will need to go through lengthy and costly legal procedures. To avoid the trouble of going through the procedures, some aggrieved persons may choose to put up with the situation. It is doubtful whether such a Bill will in practice offer the protection it is supposed to offer.
The lack of a designated agency to implement the Bill would also mean that persons who need guidance and advice will have to consult their own advisors. In the absence of precedence, the advice and guidance that is obtained will probably be less than definitive. Therefore, persons who have every intention to comply with the law may still experience difficulty in doing so.
As the Secretary for Education and Manpower has already set out the Administration's objection pertaining to the part on age discrimination, I shall confine my comments on the part on sexuality.
Clause 3 of the Bill defines, among others, the term "near relative". The definition includes a person who is living with another person on a genuine domestic basis although not married to each other. Thus, two co-habitants living together on an extra-marital relationship will be regarded as near relative under the Bill. They would be so regarded under the Bill even if they are of the same sex. I am afraid this is a wide deviation from existing law and custom. The results of our public consultation last year showed there was strong disapproval in the community of any legal recognition of such de facto spouse relationship.
Clause 9 of the Bill on employment does not provide for any exemption for small employers or in respect of domestic helpers. Therefore, it would be unlawful for a person when employing a domestic helper to refuse an applicant on grounds of the latter's sexual orientation. Such domestic helpers work and unusually stay in the homes of their employers. The restriction imposed by the Bill will be an intrusion into the employer's privacy in addition to being a restriction of their freedom to choose whom to provide care and attention to their families.
Without wishing to pass any judgment on whether it is morally right or wrong, I have to reflect the concern expressed by parents about their children being taught by teachers who are homosexuals. There will be similar concerns if persons who are sports instructors, scout leaders, and so on, who are known to be homosexuals. One may say that such concern is not justified because a person should be judged by what she or he teaches and does and not be judged by his or her sexual orientation, yet the concern is so deep and widespread that we cannot simply brush it aside.
This is the reason why even in Australia, which has much more experience of anti-discrimination legislation than we do, it would be unlawful to refuse to employ homosexuals as domestic helpers or in work involving the care and instruction of minors. However, similar exemptions are not provided for in the Bill or in any of the Committee stage amendment's though we expressed such concern at the Bills Committee's meetings. I am afraid without such exemptions, the Bill would cause anxiety to many parents and difficulties to many schools and organizations providing services to youngsters.
Mr Deputy, given the reasons from our public consultations and as there are so many deficiencies in the Bill, there is only one right decision for this Council to take, and that is, to vote against the Bill as a whole. The Administration strongly objects to the Bill and I earnestly request Members to do so.
4.15 pm
と415だ
THE PRESIDENT resumed the chair.
畊確穦某
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畊и谅やи某碞ㄇ借高矗-
猭琌иご谋眔斗碞碭よ莱
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ぃ耞浪癚
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荡癸Τ瞶パ獺-
ア祇甶︑и㎝匡拒ネよΑキ单诀穦
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畊и癸現┎┦渡よ秈︽肚毙▅稰だア辨耴╯琸現┎癸┦攀╆猍跌篈だ陪ㄒ琌現┎暗拜秸琩ㄤい兵拜肈"穦籔┦攀搐も"硂は琈現┎粄┦攀琌绩碍菇硂妓︙毙▅竤渤現┎硓筁地ッ环糥初膀计窾じぉ计"в"刮砰崩︽毙▅現┎计窾じ獽п锣戳猍跌芠├硂ゼ琌びぃ璽砫ヴ現┎┦渡毙▅だ珿ㄆ沟琌碙キ单诀穦沟讽戮戮︑┦攀渡硂沟ボ粄㎝钡沟そ獽е贾硂痷琌ぱよ糜︓穦癸┦攀Τㄇ或岿粇芠├︙タカチ癸┦攀猍跌篈单玥唉ぃ矗
畊現┎癸┦渡毙▅琌睝礚港種狦и-
ぃ矗ㄑミ猭玂毁┦攀穦膥尿猍跌
畊硂琌材Ωミ猭Ыず矗ユキ单诀穦兵ㄒи┤⊿Τ诀穦и辨︗ㄆ堡硂Ω诀穦猍跌竤щ▆み布
谅谅畊
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill put and agreed to.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Bill read the Second time.
兵ㄒ竒筁弄
Bill committed to a Committee of the whole Council pursuant to Standing Order 43(1).
ㄌ沮穦某盽砏材43兵材(1)蹿砏﹚盢兵ㄒ〆ぉ砰〆穦糵某
Committee stage of Bill
兵ㄒ砰〆穦糵某顶琿
Council went into Committee.
セЫ秈砰〆穦糵某顶琿
EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES (FAMILY RESPONSIBILITY, SEXUALITY AND AGE) BILL
キ单诀穦產畑砫ヴ┦渡の闹兵ㄒ
〆穦畊セЫ矪瞶兵ㄒいΤ闽膀產畑砫ヴ┪產畑盺︗猍跌ぇ场だ
Clause 3 (the definitions of "family responsibility or family status") and Part II (clauses 8 to 26)
材3兵Τ闽"產畑砫ヴ┪產畑盺︗"ぇ﹚竡の材II场材8︓26兵
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某材3兵ずΤ闽產畑砫ヴ┪產畑盺︗﹚竡の材II场珹8︓26兵タず甧更祇癳〆ゅンずパ現┎竒矗ㄑ疉の產畑盺︗猍跌兵ㄒτи某兵ㄒぇ玡ミ猭Ы確弄︳璸現┎兵ㄒ穦莉眔硄筁ぇи粄иキ单诀穦兵ㄒΤ闽產畑砫ヴ场だ逞ぶ㎝ぃЧ俱兵ゅи篗и兵ㄒ材3兵Τ闽產畑砫ヴ﹚竡の材II场材8︓材26兵Τ闽產畑砫ヴ场兵ゅ
谅谅畊
Proposed amendments
览某タず甧
Clause 3 (the definitions of "family responsibility or family status") (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材3兵Τ闽"產畑砫ヴ┪產畑盺︗"ぇ﹚竡ǎンXXV
Part II (clauses 8 to 26) (See annex XXV)
材II场材8︓26兵ǎンXXV
SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS: Mr Chairman, the Administration supports the proposed deletion.
Question on the amendments put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
〆穦畊パ糂ホ某矗材3兵ずぇ﹚竡の材II场ぇ某莉∕瓃场だ穦眖兵ㄒい
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷矪瞶兵ㄒい続ノ材III场膀┦渡猍跌の材IV场膀闹猍跌ぇ场だ
Clause 3 (the definitions of "charitable benefits", "educational authority", "educational institution" "employment" and "voluntary body" only), clauses 5, 6, 7, 83, 87, 88 and 100
材3兵Τ闽"稯到痲""毙▅恨讽Ы""毙▅诀篶""沟ノ"の"в腀刮砰"ぇ﹚竡の材567838788の100兵
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材3兵ずΤ闽稯到痲毙▅恨讽Ы毙▅诀篶沟ノの︑腀刮砰﹚竡のタ材567838788の100兵タず甧更祇癳︗〆ゅンず
и璹琌膀
材惫勉籔ぇ玡は猍跌猭ㄒ┦猍跌兵ㄒ㎝摧痚猍跌兵ㄒ眔璓
材パи埃產畑砫ヴ俱场だㄤ场だ兵ゅず瞷"產畑砫ヴ"迭ョ惠
谅谅畊
Proposed amendments
览某タず甧
Clause 3 (the definitions of "charitable benefits", "educational authority", "educational institution" "employment" and "voluntary body" only) (See annex XXV)
材3兵Τ闽"稯到痲""毙▅恨讽Ы""毙▅诀篶""沟ノ"の"в腀刮砰"ぇ﹚竡ǎンXXV
Clause 5 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材5兵ǎンXXV
Clause 6 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材6兵ǎンXXV
Clause 7 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材7兵ǎンXXV
Clause 83 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材83兵ǎンXXV
Clause 87 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材87兵ǎンXXV
Clause 88 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材88兵ǎンXXV
Clause 100 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材100兵ǎンXXV
Question on the amendments put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
〆穦畊パ碞材6の88兵矗Τ闽埃ぇタ莉∕材6の88兵穦眖兵ㄒい
Question on clauses 5, 7, 83, 87 and 100, as amended, proposed.
竒タ兵ㄒ材578387の100兵ぇ某肈竒矗某
〆穦畊某肈盢兜兵ゅセ兵ㄒstand part of the Bill.
Question on clauses 5, 7, 83, 87 and 100 put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材578387の100兵莉硄筁
Clause 3 (the rest of the definitions with the exception of "age", "reproductive technology procedure'", "relative" and "sexuality"), clauses 82, 86, 89, 90, 93, 95 to 99, 101 and 102 were agreed to.
材3兵緇﹚竡ぃ珹"闹""ネ▅м祘""克妮"の"┦渡"ぇ﹚竡の材828689909395︓99101の102兵莉眔硄筁
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷矪瞶兵ㄒずΤ闽膀┦渡猍跌ぇ场だ
Clause 27, 35, 38, 42 and 44
兵ㄒ材27353842の44兵
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某タ瓃兵ゅタず甧更祇癳︗〆ゅンぇず材42兵タ琌盢"疭舦"迭い""ㄤ緇琌惫迭э籔玡は猍跌兵ㄒ眔璓
谅谅畊
Proposed amendments
览某タず甧
Clause 27 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材27兵ǎンXXV
Clause 35 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材35兵ǎンXXV
Clause 38 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材38兵ǎンXXV
Clause 42 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材42兵ǎンXXV
Clause 44 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材44兵ǎンXXV
SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS: Mr Chairman, I have explained at the Second Reading debate the Administration objects to the Bill and all the clauses, whether or not they are amended.
Question on the amendments put.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
Mr LEE Cheuk-yan claimed a division.
某璶―翴∕
〆穦畊〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
CHAIRMAN: We are now dealing with the parts of the Bill relating to discrimination on the ground of sexuality, 闽┦渡ê场だ
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈: 糂ホ某碞材27353842の44兵┮笆某ぇタぉ硄筁
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chungMiss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Eric LI, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Mr MOK Ying-fan and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the amendment.
Miss CHAN Yuen-han abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 27 votes in favour of the amendments and 20 against it. He therefore declared that the amendments were carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θタ27は癸20琌ガタ莉硄筁
DR LEONG CHE-HUNG: Mr Chairman, I move under Standing Order 37(4) that in the event of further divisions being claimed in respect of the remaining motions at the Committee stage of the Equal Opportunities (Family Responsibility, Sexuality and Age) Bill, at this sitting, the Committee do proceed to each of such divisions immediately after the division bell has been rung for one minute.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
某ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕莉硄筁
CHAIRMAN: It means that in subsequent divisions at the Committee stage, the division bell will be reduced from three minutes to one.
Question on the clauses 27, 35, 28, 42 and 44, as amended, put.
竒タ材27353842の44兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
Mr Bruce LIU claimed a division.
郭Θ某璶―翴∕
〆穦畊〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
〆穦畊叫癘眔琌1だ牧ぃ璶
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈:竒タぇ材27353842の44兵セ兵ㄒ
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Eric LI, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Mr MOK Ying-fan and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
Miss CHAN Yuen-han abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 27 votes in favour of the motion and 20 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ某27は癸20琌ガ某莉硄筁
Clauses 28 to 34, 36, 37, 39, 40, 41, 43 and 45 to 53
材28︓34363739404143の45︓53兵
Question on the motion put.
某ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
Mr IP Kwok-him claimed a division.
腑瓣辆某璶―翴∕
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈:材28︓34363739404143の45︓53兵セ兵ㄒ
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Eric LI, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Mr MOK Ying-fan and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
Miss CHAN Yuen-han abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 26 votes in favour of the motion and 20 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ某26は癸20琌ガ某莉硄筁
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷矪瞶兵ㄒずΤ闽膀闹猍跌ぇ场だ
Clause 54
兵ㄒ材54兵
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材54兵タず甧更祇癳〆ぇゅンず
材54兵材(3)㎝材(4)蹿タΞㄏ硂兵ゅ惫迭籔玡は猍跌猭ㄒ璓
谅谅畊
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 54 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材54兵ǎンXXV
毙▅参膚璓勉畊硂琌材IV场膀闹猍跌材兵兵ゅи虑诀穦ビ現┎玥は癸┮ΤΤ闽闹猍跌兵ゅ礚阶兵蹿Τタ谅谅
糂ホ某璓勉畊弄臛阶и竒碞阶翴朝瓃и種ǎ辨︗某やΤ闽闹猍跌场だ谅谅畊
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clause 54, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材54兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clauses 62 and 65
兵ㄒ材62の65兵
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材62の65兵タず甧更祇癳︗某ぇゅンずタヘ琌硂ㄇ兵ゅ籔玡は猍跌猭ㄒ璓谅谅畊
Proposed amendments
览某タず甧
Clause 62 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材62兵ǎンXXV
Clause 65 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材65兵ǎンXXV
毙▅参膚璓勉畊и確弄臛阶硂兜兵ㄒ莉眔硄筁穦盿ㄓ腨紇臫瞷︽猭ㄒの惫琁ぃ镑膥尿龟琁硂ぃ▆紇臫靡硂兜ㄒ膀セΤ簗瑌览よョΤろТ到穦盿ㄓ腨拜肈玻ネ睼睹薄猵癸穦睝礚矪畊現┎は癸材62兵の65兵のΤ闽某タ
Question on the amendments put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clauses 62 and 65, as amended, put.
竒タ材62の65兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
Mr Frederick FUNG claimed a division.
毒浪膀某璶―翴∕
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈:竒タ材62の65兵セ兵ㄒ
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜﹟ろ2瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Eric LI, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, voted against the motion.
Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr IP Kwok-him and Mr LEE Kai-ming abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 34 votes in favour of the motion and eight against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ某34は癸8琌ガ某莉硄筁
Clause 71
兵ㄒ材71兵
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材71兵タず甧更祇癳︗某ぇゅン
и盢"疭舦"迭い""ㄢ
谅谅畊
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 71 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材71兵ǎンXXV
毙▅参膚璓勉癸ぃ癬и璶虑硂诀穦秆睦㎝矗眶︗〆и弄臛阶秆睦硂兵蹿穦盿ㄓ腨紇臫ㄏ猭ㄒ㎝惫琁ぃ龟琁現┎は癸硂兵蹿㎝某タ
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clause 71, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材71兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clauses 55 to 61
兵ㄒ材55︓61兵
毙▅参膚璓勉畊現┎闹猍跌よ現郸㎝璸购и弄臛阶弧眔だ睲贰и瞷叫〆や現┎ミ初は癸硂兜兵ㄒのㄤ兵蹿谅谅
Proposed amendments
览某タず甧
Clause 55 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材55兵ǎンXXV
Clause 56 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材56兵ǎンXXV
Clause 57 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材57兵ǎンXXV
Clause 58 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材58兵ǎンXXV
Clause 59 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材59兵ǎンXXV
Clause 60 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材60兵ǎンXXV
Clause 61 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材61兵ǎンXXV
Question on the amendment put.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
Miss CHAN Yuen-han and Mrs Miriam LAU claimed a division.
朝胞糭某の糂胺祸某璶―翴∕
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈材55︓61兵セ兵ㄒ
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr Allen LEE, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LEE Kai-ming and Mr LO Suk-ching voted against the amendment.
Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr IP Kwok-him and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 34 votes in favour of the amendment and 12 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θタ34は癸12琌ガ某莉硄筁
Clauses 63, 64, 67 to 70 and 72 to 81
兵ㄒ材636467︓70の72︓81兵
毙▅参膚璓勉畊現┎は癸硂ㄇ兵蹿瓃兵蹿い材72︓81兵Ξ膀ぃ瞶パ㎝薄猵倒ぉ僚硂ㄇ僚ㄤ龟琌ぃì镑и-
猭種ǎ粄薄猵セぃ絋﹚硂ㄇ兵蹿倒ぉ┮惠僚
Proposed amendments
览某タず甧
Clause 63 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材63兵ǎンXXV
Clause 64 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材64兵ǎンXXV
Clause 67 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材67兵ǎンXXV
Clause 68 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材68兵ǎンXXV
Clause 69 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材69兵ǎンXXV
Clause 70 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材70兵ǎンXXV
Clause 72 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材72兵ǎンXXV
Clause 73 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材73兵ǎンXXV
Clause 74 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材74兵ǎンXXV
Clause 75 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材75兵ǎンXXV
Clause 76 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材76兵ǎンXXV
Clause 77 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材77兵ǎンXXV
Clause 78 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材78兵ǎンXXV
Clause 79 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材79兵ǎンXXV
Clause 80 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材80兵ǎンXXV
Clause 81 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材81兵ǎンXXV
Question on the amendments put.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
Mrs Miriam LAU claimed a division.
糂胺祸某璶―翴∕
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
〆穦畊1だ牧毒浪膀某眔е翴ㄓ
略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈材636467︓70の72︓81兵セ兵ㄒ
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr Allen LEE, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr Ambrose LAU and Mr LO Suk-ching voted against the amendment.
Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr IP Kwok-him and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 36 votes in favour of the amendment and nine against it. He therefore declared that the amendment was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θタ36は癸9琌ガ某莉硄筁
Clause 66
兵ㄒ材66兵
毙▅参膚璓勉畊現郸砏﹚闹18烦┪╧┦﹡チビ叫砍パ18烦场だ籔產︘⊿Τ惠璶砎﹡┮硂兜現郸惠璶璹闹砏﹚琌瞶ぃ筁兵ㄒ材66兵碞穦硂兜現郸跑眔ぃ猭и玃叫︗某は癸硂兵蹿の俱兜兵ㄒ谅谅畊
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 66 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材66兵ǎンXXV
糂ホ某璓勉畊и氮滦材76兵秆∕赣拜肈иぃ笵-
Τ╯硂兵и狡Ω琌材76兵(b)琿谅谅畊
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
糂ホ某 畊パ穦某盽砏砏﹚ヴ︙某穝璹兵ゅの穝璹莱兵ㄒぇ兵ゅの莉矪瞶Ч拨ぉσ納и沮穦某盽砏材68兵璶―畊種и笆某既氨磅︽穦某盽砏材46兵(5)の(7)蹿獽и某穝璹材42A53A71Aの77A兵の穝璹某肈兵ㄒ緇兵ゅ莉ぉσ納
〆穦畊 糂ホ某パΤミ猭Ы畊種礚竒箇ぇ薄猵笆某既氨磅︽穦某盽砏矗ぇ叫―ぃ砰〆穦ず眔矪瞶セ畊㏑砰〆穦瞷確ミ猭Ы
Council then resumed.
砰〆穦繦τ確ミ猭Ы
畊糂ホ某セ畊у矗ぇ璶―
糂ホ某畊и笆某既氨磅︽穦某盽砏材46兵(5)の(7)蹿獽砰〆穦σ納兵ㄒ緇兵ゅぇ玡σ納и某肈某穝璹材42A53A71Aの77A 兵の某穝璹
畊セ畊瞷︗矗ぇ某某肈既氨磅︽穦某盽砏材46兵(5)の(7)蹿獽砰〆穦σ納兵ㄒ緇兵ゅぇ玡σ納糂ホ某某肈某穝璹材42A53A71Aの77A兵の穝璹
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
某ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕莉硄筁
Council went into Committee.
セЫ秈砰〆穦糵某顶琿
New clause 42A
穝璹兵ㄒ材42A兵Barristers
畍New clause 53A
穝璹兵ㄒ材53A兵Insurance
玂繧New clause 71A
穝璹兵ㄒ材71A兵Barristers
畍New clause 77A
穝璹兵ㄒ材77A兵Further exceptions for statutory authority
Τ闽猭﹚舦秈˙ㄒ薄猵New schedule
穝璹Provision Specified for Purposes of Section 77A
碞材77A兵兵--
Clauses and schedule read the First time and ordered to be set down for Second Reading pursuant to Standing Orders 46(6) and 46(7).
兵ㄒの兵ゅ竒筁弄ㄌ沮穦某盽砏材46兵材(6)の材46兵 (7)蹿砏﹚㏑逼弄
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某弄タ材42A43A71Aの77A籔の穝璹ず甧更祇癳〆ぇゅンず
毙▅参膚璓勉畊и辨疭材71A兵琌矗ユタ某程戳玡矗眖ゼ竒筁兵ㄒ〆穦糵某﹟ゼ╯兵蹿盿ㄓ紇臫玡獽盢ぇ硂兜兵ㄒず琌ぃ讽暗猭
畊иビиは癸硂ㄇ兵蹿
SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS: Mr Chairman, I join the Secretary for Education and Manpower in objecting to this Bill in principle and all the new existing clauses therein.
Question on the Second Reading of the clauses and schedule put.
兵ゅの弄ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
Mrs Miriam LAU claimed a division.
糂胺祸某璶―翴∕
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈穝璹材42⑾ 53⑾71⑾の77⑾兵の穝璹ぉ弄
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui and Mr LEE Kai-ming abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 31 votes in favour of the motion and 11 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ某31は癸11琌ガ某莉硄筁
Clauses and schedule read the Second time.
兵ㄒの兵ゅ竒筁弄
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某セ兵ㄒ莱糤干穝璹材42A53A71Aの77A兵の穝璹
Proposed additions
览某糤干
New clause 42A (See annex XXV)
穝璹材42A兵ǎンXXV
New clause 53A (See annex XXV)
穝璹材53A兵ǎンXXV
New clause 71A (See annex XXV)
穝璹材71A兵ǎンXXV
New clause 77A (See annex XXV)
穝璹材77A兵ǎンXXV
New schedule (See annex XXV)
穝璹ǎンXXV
Question on the addition of the new clauses 42A, 53A, 71A, 77A and the new schedule proposed, put and agreed to.
糤干穝璹材42A53A71Aの77A兵の穝璹ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕莉硄筁
〆穦畊糂ホ某パ穝璹材42A兵の穝璹材71A兵莉∕笆某碞材3兵矗ぇ闽タ
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某虑糤干"ǎ策畍""ǎ策戮︗""割の┯"ぇ﹚竡秈˙タ材3兵タず甧更祇癳︗〆ぇゅンず
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 3 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材3兵ǎンXXV
毙▅参膚璓勉畊現┎玥琌は癸硂兜兵蹿
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clauses 1, 2, 4, 84, 85, 91, 92 and 94
兵ㄒ材12484859192の94兵
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材12484859192の94兵タず甧更祇癳︗某ぇゅンず
Proposed amendments
览某タず甧
Clause 1 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材1兵ǎンXXV
Clause 2 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材2兵ǎンXXV
Clause 4 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材4兵ǎンXXV
Clause 84 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材84兵ǎンXXV
Clause 85 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材85兵ǎンXXV
Clause 91 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材91兵ǎンXXV
Clause 92 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材92兵ǎンXXV
Clause 94 (See annex XXV)
兵ㄒ材94兵ǎンXXV
毙▅参膚璓勉畊Τ闽兵ㄒ材91兵ㄢ兜某タ癸兵ㄒ捣睝⊿Τ矪はτ兵ㄒ螟钡材兜タㄤいヘ琌甭舦よ猭皘礚斗骋戈蛮よ種㏑氮臛沟ノ┪穝沟ノビ硂笻璉и-
ゲ斗蝴▆沟赌闽玒現郸材兜タ某埃沮セ兵ㄒ矗猭禗砠倒程蔼竭纕硂兜タ某穦盿ㄓは狦糤沟紐納玱礚猭腢旧-
钡硂摸猭ㄒ畊現┎は癸材12484859192の94兵のΤ闽某タ
SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS: Mr Chairman, for the reasons as set out by the Secretary for Education and Manpower, we object firmly to these clauses.
Question on the amendments put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clauses 1, 2, 4, 84, 85, 91, 92 and 94, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材12484859192の94兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷矪瞶材3兵ず緇ぇ﹚竡
Clause 3 (the definitions of "age", "relative", "reproductive technology procedure" and "sexuality only.)
材3兵琌Τ闽"闹""克妮""ネ▅м祘"の"┦渡"ぇ﹚竡
Question on the motion put.
某ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
Mrs Miriam LAU claimed a division.
糂胺祸某璶―翴∕
〆穦畊セ〆穦瞷秈︽翴∕
〆穦畊略矗眶︗〆瞷窖∕ぇ某肈材3兵ず"闹""克妮""ネ▅м祘"の"┦渡"ぇ﹚竡セ兵ㄒ
叫︗〆∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
〆穦畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜﹟ろ计瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Mr MOK Ying-fan and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
Miss CHAN Yuen-han and Mr CHOY Kan-pui abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 27 votes in favour of the motion and 17 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ某27は癸17琌ガ某莉硄筁
Question on clause 3, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材3兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Long title
冈肈
糂ホ某璓勉畊и笆某タ冈肈タず甧更祇癳〆ぇゅンず
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Long title (See annex XXV)
冈肈ǎンXXV
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Council then resumed.
砰〆穦繦τ確ミ猭Ы
Third Reading of Bill
兵ㄒ弄
MR LAU CHIN-SHEK reported that the
糂ホ某厨孔
EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES (FAMILY RESPONSIBILITY, SEXUALITY AND AGE) BILL
キ单诀穦產畑砫ヴ┦渡の闹兵ㄒ
had passed through Committee with amendments. He moved the Third Reading of the Bill.
竒タ硄筁砰〆穦糵某顶琿笆某弄瓃兵ㄒ
Question on the Third Reading of the Bill proposed and put.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
Mrs Miriam LAU claimed a division.
糂胺祸某璶―翴∕
畊セЫ瞷秈︽翴∕∕牧臫笆3だ牧
畊︗某セ畊確弄纯掉﹚材103兵笻は癡材XXV(3)兵砰〆穦顶琿ゼボ弄τ材103兵盢眖兵ㄒい瞷∕弄竒タ兵ㄒぃ珹材103兵
畊略矗眶︗某瞷窖∕ぇ某肈キ单诀穦產畑砫ヴ┦渡の闹兵ㄒぉ弄硄筁
叫︗某∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr James TIEN, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Mr MOK Ying-fan and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 27 votes in favour of the motion and 29 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was negatived.
畊ガ觅Θ某27は癸29琌ガ某綝∕
Resumption of Second Reading Debate on Bill
確兵ㄒ弄臛阶
EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES (RACE) BILL
キ单诀穦贺壁兵ㄒ
Resumption of debate on Second Reading which was moved on 10 July 1996
確せるら笆某弄臛阶
DR LEONG CHE-HUNG: Mr President, I rise hopefully for the last time to speak on the Equal Opportunities Bills in the capacity as Chairman of the Bills Committee to study the four equal opportunity Bills, including this one which is the Equal Opportunity (Race) Bill now under debate.
This Bill is a Member's Bill introduced by the Honourable Mrs Elizabeth WONG and is to render discrimination on the ground of race unlawful in various areas and to make provisions for remedies for such discriminations.
To address the question of racial discrimination the Administration has conducted a study to establish whether such discrimination exists in Hong Kong, and if so, the nature, extent and possible options for addressing such problems as may be found to exist.
The Administration considers that it should await the outcome of the consultation exercise before proceeding further with the legislative proposal. After the Bills Committee had completed its scrutiny of the Bill, the Administration issued on 18 June 1997 a paper to Members on the outcome of the consultation exercise and its proposals. In summary, the Administration proposed not to introduce or support at this present stage any draft legislation to address racial discrimination. However, it will revisit the subject in a year's time.
With regard to the Bill, the Administration's principle concern is the impact on immigration law and policy. The Bill includes no exemptions corresponding with those in section 11 and 12 of the Hong Kong Bill of Rights Ordinance for matters pertaining to immigration legislation on deportation and on entry into, stay in and departure from Hong Kong. These exceptions are essential for effective immigration control. Several of the Bill's provisions, for example clause 9 and clause 11, on employment, clause 23 on the administrative laws, impinges directly on immigration matters. Exemptions on these and other provisions in Part 3(a) of the Immigration Ordinance in respect of Vietnamese migrants are necessary.
The Administration is also concerned about the impact of the Bill on job applicants and employees from overseas and the Labour Importation Scheme. Another concern is about the education of overseas children in Hong Kong.
As in the case of other equal opportunity Bills under study by the Bills Committee, it has divided views on the Bill. Mrs Wong has been responsive to concerns raised by the Administration and some Members of the Bills Committee. She will therefore propose a number of amendments to her Bill at the Committee
stage, including parallel amendments to the Sex and Disability Discrimination (Miscellaneous Provision) Bill 1996. The significant amendment is to redefine "race" in the Bill by deleting "nationality" and "national origin". The definition as amended now includes "colour, descent or ethnic origin". The consequential amendments provisions in clause 55 of the Bill will be similarly dealt with, as for clause 103 of the Equal Opportunity (Family Responsibility, Sexuality and Age) Bill which we have just repealed. I shall not repeat the details here as I have covered them in my speech on the last Bill.
Mr President, the Bills Committee recommends the Second Reading of the Bill.
Turning to my own thoughts of the Bill, Mr President, whilst I am aware that discrimination of race does exist and should be rapidly abolished, yet the Bill as presented to us, in spite of amendments to be made, still leaves a lot of loopholes and problems. I would personally vote against this Bill on such grounds but would recommend the Administration to take up the issues involved as quickly as possible.
Thank you, Mr President.
5.25 pm
と525だ
THE PRESIDENT'S DEPUTY, DR LEONG CHE-HUNG, took the chair.
瞶畊辩醇翬某既穦某
MRS ELIZABETH WONG: Mr Deputy, the Equal Opportunities (Race) Bill was read the Second time on 10 July 1996. I am grateful that some 11 months later the Bill is before this Council for resumption of debate on the Second Reading.
As Dr the Honourable LEONG Che-hung has said the purpose of this Bill is to render discrimination on the ground of race unlawful and to make provision for relevant remedies. The objective is to eliminate as far as it is possible all forms of racial discrimination in Hong Kong. In so doing, the Bill also intends to give effect to a variety of international obligations applicable to Hong Kong on the same subject.
Now, I would like to describe in detail the Government's stand. On 18 June the Government put out a press release, a press release which indicates something like this: that it was not the Government's intention to legislate against racial discrimination at this stage; that it preferred a step-by-step approach I think all these are familiar phrases and that there was not much demand for legislative approach; and that after a four-month consultation of some 10 000 people in this city of 6 million people, only a minuscule proportion of the population considered that racial prejudice was a problem, and even so, the problem was episodic.
It further stated that the Home Affairs Branch received 238 submissions, of which 197 said legislation against racial discrimination was unnecessary and undesirable very much like our provisional legislature. And some said racial discrimination was a problem but not a significant one. Introducing legislation against racial discrimination might mislead people into believing it was a serious problem.
Thus a Government spokesman said that it would not be opportune to introduce legislation to outlaw racial discrimination because discriminatory acts based on race are not prevalent. The benefits from such legislation would be limited. The Government further stated that the introduction of such legislation at this juncture against the view of the majority of respondents might call into question the Government's sincerity in consulting the public. The Government promised to revisit the problem in a year's time.
Now, I have never heard such rubbish and I shall explain why. I am not at all surprised by the Government's decision because it is not the first time we have heard the Government's explanation and it is not the first time that the Government has revisited the subject. Indeed, if you check against the Hansard,
the very words have been used in 1994, 1995 and in a lot of other forums. Indeed, ever since 1994 when a former Legislative Councillor, the Honourable Ms Anna WU, who must have left in disgust, introduced a similar Bill in this Council which was voted down by the Council in 1995, the Government has since then annually revisited again and again the subject, and after each revisit the Government's stand was exactly the same.
So, while we should pride ourselves on the fact that racial harmony exists in Hong Kong, it is generally held that the Government's stand might be construed, and in fact, it was described very much vehemently in the press, as its abrogation of its international responsibility, and that is not at this stage. It is simple abrogation of the Government's responsibility.
It casts doubt over the Government's leadership in ensuring that everyone in Hong Kong, irrespective of race, is treated equally and enjoys the protection of the law. And I think it was said by my Honourable friends in this Council, the Honourable Albert HO and also Dr the Honourable John TSE, that it is the Government's moral responsibility to ensure that the weak and the vulnerable are protected as well, as much as the mighty and the powerful in Hong Kong.
A human being is an individual of whatever race. Human rights is bestowed upon human beings by God and not by government. A moral issue such as racial equality or equal opportunities for people with different races, to talk about what the majority wants, ignores the interests of the minority and overturns the true meaning that every individual counts in our society. Equal opportunity in race is not a question of majority over minority. It is in everybody's interests to treat everyone the same by providing each individual with the same opportunity. We cannot all be equal, but we can at least ensure everyone has equal opportunities.
I am absolutely appalled at the lack of understanding by government officials, even today in 1997 and by Members of this Council. I am much older than most of you and yet my thoughts are with a lot of the 20th century people and some of you have lagged behind in the 18th century, and I think education has failed, to be honest. The Secretary for Education ought to reconsider the education problem.
Let us remind this Council and government officials that Hong Kong has signed up to the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination. It is clear that to defer consideration of this issue to a later stage, step by step, is like doing the cha-cha. One step forward, two steps back. What are we doing? We are a respectable government here. So, it is really very disheartening to find even today as we embark on the change of sovereignty that we see the Hong Kong Government passing the buck to the Hong Kong SAR. They are the same people, but they are passing the buck between weeks and days and years.
The Government says that education is important. I agree. But to have education without legislation is like washing one's feet with socks on. the Government's stand reveals that it has as much likelihood of winning hearts and minds as of Mickey Mouse winning the "Three T".
So, this Council is charged with the sacred task of monitoring the actions of the Government. I appeal to this Council to reject the Government's stand and to support the Bill.
I thank the Bills Committee for their earnest in addressing, Mr Deputy, the details of the Bill over two lunches and for painstakingly missing lunches to discuss the details, and since this is not a new subject I should imagine all Members ought to know the details of the Bill and the proposed Committee stage amendments very well.
But I would like to say that in response to Members' legitimate concerns, I have proposed a number of major, significant amendments in order to redefine "race" in the Bill by deleting all references to "nationality" and "national origin", to expand on provisions for exemptions so as to exempt all educational policies, all immigration policies and from the application of the legislation, although I cannot exempt behaviour to individuals. And I shall move these Committee stage amendments to this effect in detail later on.
I think the Honourable LEE Cheuk-yan did say that the leader of China, DENG Xiaoping, said no matter white cat or black cat, it is a good cat that catches rats. I think to those of us who pay lip service to anti-discrimination law, we can equally say, no matter white rat or black rat, it is a good rat that escapes the cat.
So, let us be cats, not rats, and I would like to appeal to Members by saying "vote with your conscience. Vote with not only your hand but with your heart", and I support the Bill and all the effort that has been given to the Bill by my colleagues. And I would like to say a special "thank you" to a lot of the friends who have helped me with re-drafting the Bill, and re-drafting the Committee stage amendments. The passage of this Bill will show the world that Hong Kong is a good place to live in and everyone here, irrespective of race, is given equal opportunity. This is a good challenge and we must pick up the challenge.
Thank you.
瞶畊肅繟某パ璽砫セ兵ㄒ某氮臛顶琿ぃ祇ē
︙玊く某瞶畊砏祘拜肈ㄤ龟弄ぇ玡–︗某常莱赣Τ诀穦祇ē︙独窥ㄤ军某祇ēぃ倒ぉㄤ某祇ē诀穦
瞶畊独窥ㄤ军某琌硂兜兵ㄒ某ê琌氮臛
︙玊く某ㄤ龟临Τㄤ某非称祇ē琌羭も耕еτ
瞶畊讽セ畊Τ拜琌Τ某稱祇ē
︙玊く某иぃ笵砏祘琌砏﹚璽砫兵ㄒㄆ┪﹛祇ēи-
獽ぃ祇ē
瞶畊и-
某ㄆ砏玥.......畊弧パㄓ秆睦
5.34 pm
と534だ
THE PRESIDENT resumed the chair.
畊確穦某
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チ羛獺埃猍跌程Τよ猭琌硓筁碻亥秈よΑ躬纘渤や祇甶キ单诀穦阀├ㄒ硓筁毙▅眖獵ぶ拈块キ单诀穦阀├チ羛某毙▅竝硓筁揭祘眏厩ネ硂よ醚の硓筁肚碈崩︽肚毙▅单
產ぃ璶а癘独窥ㄤ军某兵ㄒ琌瓣產の猭跋猭ㄒ屡セ赣矪穦㎝現獀璉春琌籔セ翠篒礛ぃ独某盢瓣猭ㄒ酚礜窲穐ㄓ翠Ч⊿Τ臮のセ翠薄ㄆ龟癸剪眡セ翠薄猵ㄓ弧セ翠セぃ贺壁猍跌拜肈
沮現叭さる︓る戳丁秈︽そ渤吭高挡狦陪ボ蒥チ炊筂粄贺壁猍跌獶セ翠兜闽猔拜肈珿は癸瞷顶琿ミ猭窽ゎ贺壁猍跌莱そ渤吭高挡狦現┎∕﹚瞷顶琿ぃ穦﹚猭ㄒ氮莱浪癚硂琿戳丁現┎穦眏そ渤毙▅玃秈キ单诀穦阀├眏秸贺壁キ单ぃぶ瓣烩ㄆ繻烩ㄆ莱現┎吭高ゅンョボ⊿Τ钡莉瓣チщ禗纯セ翠砆猍跌薄猵τ羛瓣糵某璣瓣沮埃ちΑ贺壁猍跌瓣悔そ┮矗ユ厨ョ⊿Τ矗翠莱秈˙﹚は贺壁猍跌猭ㄒパ靡セ翠絋龟⊿Τ贺壁猍跌拜肈
丁闽玒硂兵兵ㄒ兵ㄒ〆穦ゼ竒〆だ癚阶狦セЫ某禩礛硄筁ㄇゼ竒瞏癚阶某穦蒥チ盿ㄓ璽紇臫セЫ瘤礛さΩ穦戳穦Ρ沧床るらぃ琌ミ猭沧ゎ戳現┎琂礛氮莱浪癚チ羛粄莱赣倒ぉ現┎诀穦現┎绊碞ミ猭骸種狦穦癸ミ猭Τ眏疨璶―獺羬ミ猭穦某﹚穦窗玃疭跋現┎秈︽ミ猭
畊セ略朝勉は癸弄キ单诀穦贺壁兵ㄒ
谅ッ闹某璓勉畊и祇ēや独窥ㄤ军某矗キ单诀穦兵ㄒ
и稱祇ē莱チ羛碭芠翴材-
弧"⊿Τ猍跌獽礚斗ミ猭⊿Τ拜肈︙斗秆∕"硂杠钮ㄓ癸粄痷秖筁獽穦祇谋Τ拜肈現┎瞷"竲"Τ计货じ璝甅ノチ羛秆睦Ч⊿Τ拜肈︙チ羛ぃ璶―現┎ぃノ蒥チユ祙Τ拜肈ミ猭┪拜肈腨ミ猭硂硄盽琌は癸猍跌ㄇ芠翴笵⊿Τ拜肈Τ⊿Τ╯禗и-
⊿Τ拜肈セ碞琌Τ拜肈狦︗某弄筁玭地Ν厨琍戳絞厨笵獽赣厨笵矗Τ︗瓣穎臟玱砆︗翠蒥チ硂︗膟ネ痷ぃ┋笲癸ぃ癬翠⊿Τ猭ㄒ玂毁 炊硄蒥チ穦硂妓弧и-
琌ミ猭Ы某癸"唉泊秨唉泊姜"Τ猭簗瑌玱弧и-
ぃΤ或拜肈硂琌璽砫ヴミ猭莱Τ弘
癚阶莉∕キ单诀穦產畑砫ヴ┦渡の闹兵ㄒチ羛狟ね纯弧"и-
穦щは癸布-
ぃ弧иや猍跌"硂琌或篈硂贺篈碞琌や⊿Τ猭ㄒ玂毁膀セ舦ヴパ琘ㄇ翠蒥チ 琌渤碔Τ┪Τ舦 ヴパ-
筋今ㄤ舦и-
ミ猭弧и-
ги-
ぃ
贺猭琌蒥チぃ钡琵êㄇ"畉"の滇赌翠粄セ琌獽﹜-
碭窾滇赌ノい吏約初Τ矗某膟赌诀初璶Μ祙翠蒥チ常ぃノ煤祙硂ㄇ......
畊琌砏祘拜肈
郭Θ某琌砏祘拜肈
畊谅ッ闹某叫Г郭某叫矗砏祘拜肈
郭Θ某рㄇ暗"畉"琌猍跌┦粂ē
畊琌ま瓃Τㄇ穦硂妓弧滇赌и钡狦弧"滇ゝ"琌ぃ钡ㄏ琌弧ㄤセ畊ぃ钡
谅ッ闹某и辨は莱琌痷みΤ孔"蒥チぃ钡и-
獽ぃ莱や"и獶璶―-
叫硂ㄇ瓣逗獶璶-
淋叫-
ネら籖穦獶璶-
蛤-
ユ狟ねぃ筁璶―-
ぃ璶猍跌-
и璶―-
Τ妓舦︙ぃ
チ-
︑嘿"チチネ秈穦"舦ㄓ斗ユ產ǎ-
や闹猍跌ス矗┦攀舦痲-
獽弧ぃ......
畊谅ッ闹某叫碞某肈祇ē
谅ッ闹某-
翴琌皑琌莱赣ノㄓ┰óさΩ﹚璶Τ诀キ单诀穦〆穦ㄓや菏诡の笲ノ硂猭ㄒ-
穦やㄤ龟硂琌だ抡ē阶琌竚进óで皑玡......
畊谅ッ闹某琌Τ︗チ某祇ēぇ玡祇ē弧ê礷弧杠瞷某肈琌キ单诀穦贺壁兵ㄒ叫碞某肈祇ē
谅ッ闹某畊и琌碞某肈祇ēи琌弧-
︙簍枚
畊-
临ゼ簍枚
谅ッ闹某畊иΤ瞶パ獺-
穦ノ妓瞶沮-
ぃ祇ē┮и礚猭は婚и量
畊ぃ簍枚產临ゼ祇ē弧-
穦硂妓
谅ッ闹某畊す砛琵チ某量礛и量ぃ礛弄и⊿Τ诀穦祇ē
畊祇ēΤΩ叫碞硂某肈祇ē
谅ッ闹某畊иご矗の琘ㄇ抡ē阶羆τēぇ╬兵ㄒ琌ぃ镑笆ノそ┊τキ单诀穦〆穦琌ㄢ兵猭ㄒ摧痚猍跌兵ㄒ㎝┦猍跌兵ㄒ絛瞅┮ぃ镑......
畊馋莱某琌砏祘拜肈
馋莱某琌坚睲
畊谅某ぃゲ琵埃獶腀種琵琵碝―坚睲盾琌腀種Гㄓ琵璶―坚睲琘翴琵祇揣ê或獽Τ诀穦氮馋莱某
馋莱某畊и稱拜琌穦Μ┮弧杠ㄤ龟и-
⊿Τ弧筁杠碞琌瞦稱и-
穦弧杠
畊硂獶坚睲硂琌璶―τ獶坚睲
谅ッ闹某畊ㄤ龟ミ猭Ы㎝現┎讽礛Τだ酚и簍枚チ狟ね碞莉∕兵ㄒ祇ē-
獽穦弧程Τ诀讽礛Τ诀㏕礛╬兵ㄒセ礚猭硂妓暗硂琌ㄇ礚猭龟︽ㄆ薄
畊谅ッ闹某セ畊稱弧筂產临ゼ祇ēぃ璶簍枚產穦弧杠叫碞硂某肈祇ē碞琌贺壁㎝キ单诀穦
谅ッ闹某畊и獺Τㄇ穦琘ㄇ某獺現┎獺現┎籔斗跌∕﹚и-
タ癚阶舦㎝は猍跌硂烩办筁ひ狟ね獺常フ現┎⊿Τ縩伐暗ヴ︙ㄆさぱ狦硈硂兵ㄒぃ莉眔硄筁ら璶硄筁Τ闽舦のは猍跌摸猭虏琌だぱ痷稱猭ら璝璶矗╬兵ㄒ﹚穦螟螟и辨某
┪砛Τㄇ︓現┎﹛穦弧"Τ匡拒︑パ"⊿Τ猍跌-
匡拒碞穦程ぶ-
匡拒ぃ贺壁狦Τ猍跌薄猵匡拒獽穦搭ぶ
Τㄇ踞み狦膟赌琌┦攀甧穦Τ獻デ環┪Τ┦︽单祇ネㄤ龟硂ㄇ踞紐琌Ч緇┦奶耑┦獻デ单常琌竜︽狦竨叫膟赌或璶┤硂ㄇㄆ薄
畊и癸ㄇ現囊だぃ骸痷琌"蔓挛み▄"礚斗翴-
本┷礟玱籔︑┮暗ㄆ薄Чぃ-
躬纘現囊籔現囊ぇ丁ㄇ程膀セ舦よユ传τぃ琌玂毁–礚阶琌┦攀┪琌ぃ贺壁莱赣局Τ单舦舦琌ぃcompromiseぃ镑ゑи┪ΤㄢиΤょ–常琌ぱネキ单ぃ阶ヴ︙贺壁常琌キ单и-
ぃ弧иや琘ㄇ舦ぃやㄇ舦и-
非玥︙硂妓秈︽ユセ竒琌猍跌ユ琌琘ㄇ疭紉膀娄管ㄇ诀穦诀穦琌現┎羘羘弧翠琌キ单㎝Τそ竡穦Τキ单舦硈ミ猭Ы某ぃや硂摸兵ㄒ穦Τキ单穦и-
ぃ琌驰腹τ琌暗ㄇだ璶ㄆи-
琌∕﹚琘ㄇㄆ薄
и弧筁琘瓣穎臟綝琘ㄇ弧膟赌琘ㄇそ渤よ璶窥翠玥礚惠璶硂Ч琌ぃキ单笿︙и-
ги硈稱ぃи-
钡┪讽硂ㄇㄆ薄⊿Τ祇ネ盾某Τ痙種翠﹁厨ずΤщ禗硂ㄇ常琌龟のネネㄒボΤㄇ砆桨跌の玠琘ㄇ舦砆筋今ミ猭玱弧⊿Τ拜肈
畊さぱ边∕夹琌捌ㄤ龟"酚Н描"и辨︗某咎▆み∕ぃ璶禗и舦琌ユ
谅谅畊
︙玊く某璓勉畊и稱莱現┎耕Νそガは癸さΩ硄筁硂キ单诀穦贺壁兵ㄒ计
材現┎弧贺壁猍跌拜肈翠ぃ陪帝まノさるら吭高ゅン┮眔莱弧眖Μ┪よ莱ㄓ83%┪刮砰粄ミ猭琌ぃゲ璶┪ぃ眖τ現┎粄-
は癸ミ猭畊ㄤ龟さΝиョ纯弧筁粄ぃゲ璶㎝ぃゼゲ﹚单盢ぇ购﹚﹚は癸ミ猭┪谋眔ミ猭ゼゲ琌程秆∕よ猭玱ゼゲ﹚は癸ミ猭
材タи耕Ν┮弧и-
ぃ璶硂或淮ノ计ㄓ颗秖硂摸吭高┮眔挡狦ㄤい碞琌紇臫琌畓墩刮砰琌猍跌-
︓祇ēョ穦
临Τ璶翴碞琌舦琌ぃノ计ノщ布计┪穦ずチ種渡计ㄓ∕﹚琘ㄇ舦莱眔玂毁舦碞タ琌璶玂毁ぶ计舦痲τぃ琌计谋眔ぶ计舦礚斗碙猍跌甧г琌и-
碞钡计種ǎ硂タ笻は舦弘
さΝ糂胺祸某纯竒拜の籔硂臛阶闽拜肈碞琌或チ囊癸êㄇ吭高の秸琩单Τぃ猭ㄤ龟и癘眔谅ッ闹某ョ纯弧筁摸杠ぃ筁琂礛糂胺祸某иョビㄢ翴材吭高籔チ種秸琩ぃ現┎祇吭高ゅン琌单產莱┮弧琌砆笆材莱硄盽癸戈癟磝搐眔ゑ耕┪Τ種┪Τ秆眖τ莱琌ぃ莱琌Τ眏疨種ǎ硂ぃ琌┾妓秸琩チ種秸琩玥ぃチ種秸琩碞琌ノよ猭тノ┾妓よΑ笆т秸琩癸禜礛碝―莱┮琌ぃ
礚阶挡狦︙畊и眏秸舦拜肈ぃノ计溃ぶ计ぃ粄计甧г猍跌计粄猍跌拜肈ぃ斗璶ミ猭矪瞶琌и-
碞谋眔﹠舦ぃ斗璶ミ猭玂毁硂琌荡癸ぃ才蝴臔舦玥猵и璶眏秸粄礚斗ミ猭膀Τㄇ伐琌膀-
癸猍跌拜肈岿粇芠├┪︓簔跌芠├┮и-
璶猔種硂翴
材現┎粄ミ猭はτ穦旧璓翠腨猍跌拜肈ㄤ龟и癸硂弧猭呸胯稰佩砓и稱舦〆穦钮硂弧猭﹚穦Τ眏疨莱琌ぃ琌弧Τミ猭瓣產常Τ腨猍跌拜肈㎡琌ぃ琌Τミ猭穦猍跌拜肈跑眔腨㎡舦〆穦粄ぃミ猭Τ拜肈ぃミ猭碞旧璓毙▅ぃ过┏τぃ倒ぉ﹠だ玂毁┮ΤЧ称猭玂毁舦瓣產狦Τ獻デ舦拜肈и-
ぃ篕琌パミ猭ま癬㎡狦硂妓и谋眔硂琌程抡弧猭
材現┎矗ミ猭Ы璝ミ猭盢穦旧璓鸟ぃ睲︓碿種禗砠㎝┪穦旧璓贺壁ぇ丁瞏┪玻ネベの稰薄よ吊勃︓穦硑Θ癸┮孔﹠Τ眏疨碿稰
畊狦硂ㄇ弧猭Θミ杠現┎︙璶碞ㄇㄆ薄ミ猭㎡狦猽ノ硂呸胯癦ぃ琌常璶逼埃┮Τミ猭或瞷竒碞碭兜ㄆ薄ミ猭ㄒ┦猍跌の摧痚猍跌单現┎ぃ┤ミ猭穦硑Θ猍跌┪﹠ぇ丁ベ盾┮и谋眔硂琌︑ベ畊и眏秸瓣竒喷⊿Τ靡ミ猭ぇ﹚穦玻ネ硂瞷禜狦硂穦琌Τベ琌Τ贺壁侥Τи-
獺毙▅㎝ミ猭狦徊Θ秈︽杠﹚Τэ到猍跌拜肈
畊現┎盽眏秸硂摸ミ猭斗璶场碞痁硋˙秈︽窾ぃびе現┎ョ眏秸癸穦Τぃ紇臫︓穦沟坝单螟钡-
ゼΤだ非称
畊и眏秸翠帽竝そチ舦㎝現獀舦瓣悔そ竒俱俱20ㄤ龟20ㄓ現┎常⊿Τ荷砫ヴ⊿Τǔ硉ミ猭20临弧﹟ゼ非称狦現┎ッ环ぃ荷莱Τ砫ヴ琌ぃ琌硂穦ッ环常⊿Τ非称㎡Τ闽埃猍跌瓣悔そ厨测钮穦舦〆穦Ω眏秸ぃ钡弧猭粄猍跌拜肈ゲ斗俱砰硓筁ミ猭矪瞶狦ぃΑ猍跌ぃ莉结キ单猭玂毁硂セō碞琌猍跌┮и辨現┎﹚璶钡舦〆穦Ω矗ㄑ某㎝┚琂礛竒帽璹そ碞ぃ璶簔跌舦〆穦倒и-
種ǎ
現┎Ω眏秸硂猭ㄒ盢穦癸挂現郸のそ現郸Τ腨≧阑の紇臫独窥ㄤ军某ョ弧筁竒ま秈ㄢ兜璶璹材眖贺壁﹚竡瓣膟狦瓣膟┮逞ㄓ碞琌涧︹㎝膟(Ethnic origin)畊Τ或現郸琌璶Τぃ涧︹のぃ﹙壁ㄓ方τ璶倒ぉぃ癸и痷琌螟钡硂翴畊иぃ瞶穦そ叭現郸Τ璶讽礛ΤΤ紐納┮独窥ㄤ军某暴Τま秈ㄤい材41A兵赣兵ぃ続ノ獶猭挂и眏秸翴礚阶或現郸ぃ阶块骋┪禫玭差チ单現郸ㄤ龟ヘ玡┮Τ現郸常琌膀瓣膟σ納膀ぃ瓣膟碞穦Τぃ癸讽礛碞ぃ瓣膟σ納倒ぉぃ癸硂琌瞶秆瓣產籔瓣產ぇ丁Τぃ闽玒のぃ某┮倒ぉㄤそチぃ癸琌瞶秆拇琵琘ㄇ瓣產そチ帽靡挂籔琘ㄇ瓣產⊿Τüユ┮ㄤそチ斗璶帽靡硂琌抖瞶Θ彻瞶┮讽礛иぃ钡琌拇块骋沟弧滇猾ぃ┪皑ㄓ﹁ㄈぃ狦沟璶或涧︹骋ㄒ璶フ贺ぃ璶堵贺и谋眔硂琌ぃ镑钡狦Τ禗и硂琌ノ涧︹﹙壁ㄓ购だ帹и谋眔硂贺弧猭琌姑み
и稱眏秸さぱ秈︽兜臛阶玂現┎氮臛矗現┎は癸Τ闽臔徖猭ㄒ弧眔弧硂ぃ琌猍跌弧ぃ癸ぃ单猍跌ㄤ龟и-
兵ㄒ〆穦竒弧筁Ω癸ぃ癸Τゲ璶靡琌瞶σ納膀娄ぃ矪瞶よ猭临璶琌薄瞶才Principle of proportionalityτΤ薄瞶跋硂琌瞶临斗σ納ㄆ兜临璶σ納璶そ渤痲程耞ぃ癸琌瞶眖τσ納琌猍跌┮и眏秸Τ紐納現┎現郸の惫琁倒ぉぃ矪瞶の癸硂ㄇぃ单猍跌и稱眏秸礚阶硂兵ㄒΤ≧阑иご谋眔ぃ钡Τぃ涧︹砰ず瑈ぃ﹀τ倒ぉ疭ぃ癸硂琌篶Θ猍跌
現┎弧惠璶丁秈︽蝶︳弧⊿Τキ单诀穦〆穦ざの腊и稰框狙
и竒弧筁現┎Ν碞莱赣硂妓暗20玡碞莱赣硂妓暗ㄏ⊿Τ硂妓暗讽璊ド某矗キ单诀穦兵ㄒ碞莱赣╯秈︽硂兜蝶︳程現┎弧璶秈︽吭高礛ノ╈┑ミ猭惫琁и-
谋眔硂琌螟钡安現┎盢ㄓ临畊舦〆穦瘤礛иぃ笵街琌-
临Τ︙肅の瞶沮癸舦〆穦腨у蝶現┎弧程厨贺壁猍跌薄猵⊿Τи┮弧腨Τ吭高ㄤ龟и稱癸現┎弧眖ㄇ厨舦〆穦猭琌睲捶碞琌莱赣俱砰璓ミㄨミ猭よΑㄓ矪瞶の秆∕拜肈硂琌現┎ゲ斗糹︽砫ヴ
┮畊и辨產さぱ镑や硂兵ㄒㄏ兵ㄒ莉眔硄筁谅谅
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SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS: Mr President, I would like to express my gratitude to Dr the Honourable LEONG Che-hung and members of the Bills Committee for the work on this and other equal opportunities Bills. I am grateful also to the Honourable Mrs Elizabeth WONG for her unrelenting efforts in advocating racial equality, efforts which are reflected in her sponsorship of the present Bill.
I am sure all of us here fully support the principle of equal opportunities. I am also sure we all agree that public education is imperative in achieving our target of equal opportunities for all. Where we differ is perhaps on whether legislation is the most effective tool and on the pace at which such legislation should be introduced. The Government is of the firm view that a step-by-step approach should be adopted in enacting anti-discrimination legislation.
Such legislation affects the legal rights and obligations of every member of our community. The imposition of new legal obligations amounts to a restriction of a person's freedom and requires him or her to conform to a certain norm or attitude. If he or she is an employer or runs an organization whose activities are regulated under the new legislation he or she will have to review, and if necessary to revise, the policies and practices of his or her company or organization. Members of our community may experience difficulties if a series of new obligations are imposed on them within a short interval.
Legislation works only if there is public support. This is especially true with anti-discrimination legislation. We seek ultimately to change a person's belief. Unless there is general support the conferral of legal rights on one group might be counter-productive as it might engender resentment by another group. It is, therefore, important that we allow the public to have a chance to express their views before deciding on whether or not to introduce legislation to regulate a particular type of discrimination.
In making such a decision, we should fully take into account and respect public opinions. In February to April this year, we conducted a public consultation exercise on racial discrimination. 83% of the submissions received considered legislation to be unnecessary or undesirable at this stage. Only 8% supported legislation. The consensus among these submissions was that, irrespective of whether legislation would be introduced, public education efforts should be stepped up to promote racial equality. In view of these findings, the Government has decided not to introduce or support legislation to regulate racial discrimination now. We take the point made in most submissions received that racial discrimination is not an issue of concern in our community and that the effects of existing equal opportunities legislation should be fully assessed before introducing any new one.
On the last point, Members will no doubt remember that in addition to the Sex Discrimination Ordinance and the Disability Discrimination Ordinance which came into operation about six months ago, this Council passed the Family Status Discrimination Bill a few days ago.
We agree with the consensus in the submissions about the use of non-legislative measures to address the problem. We shall enhance our public education efforts, with particular emphasis on racial equality. Our efforts will target in particular those discriminatory attitudes and acts against the new arrivals and foreign workers as concern was raised about the treatments received by these two groups of our community. We shall also encourage employers and other organizations to exercise self-regulation and equal opportunities for all races. We shall keep monitoring the situation to see if additional measures are required to enhance racial equality.
As this is not the time to adopt any legislation on racial discrimination, I am afraid the Government objects to Mrs WONG's Bill. It follows that even if the Bill were enacted, the Government would not support the provision of funds to enable the Equal Opportunities Commission to administer the Bill. Without the involvement of the Equal Opportunities Commission, a person who feels that he is a victim of racial discrimination can seek redress only through the court. Before that he needs professional advice that he has a case under the new law. In the absence of precedence in Hong Kong, such advice will probably be less than definitive. If the advice is that he appears to have a case he still has to go through court proceedings, which may be costly and time-consuming. The uncertainty of the outcome and the time and the resources involved may prevent a person from taking his case to the court. Hence the Bill, even if enacted, will be ineffective in protecting any aggrieved person.
It is a pity that owing to the pressure of time the Bill received only one and a half hour's consideration by the Bills Committee. The rush probably explains why some unacceptable aspects of the Bill raised by Members and the Administration have not been addressed by the numerous Committee stage amendments now proposed by Mrs WONG.
The term "near relative" as defined in clause 3(1) includes a person who is living with another person on a genuine domestic basis, although not married to that person. The definition is so wide that it includes co-inhabitants of the same or opposite sex. The classification of such co-inhabitants as near relatives is clearly against the legal and social norms of our community.
The Bill does not provide for any exemption for employers of domestic helpers. Domestic helpers work and usually stay in their employers' homes. They provide care and attention to the employers' families. The intimacy is such that many employers regard their helpers as members of their families. It is natural, therefore, that the employers will wish to have the widest possible choice of whom to employ. However, if the Bill were enacted it would be unlawful for an employer to give preference to or alternatively to give a lower priority to applicants of a particular race. Many such employers would justifiably feel that their right to privacy has not been respected.
During the Bills Committee's discussion, the Administration said and Mrs WONG agreed that the definition of the term "race" should not include nationality, otherwise the Bill might render unlawful policies and practices which are based on nationality. Such policies and practices may exist in both the public and private sectors. I note that she has proposed a Committee stage amendment to delete references to nationality and national origins. However, the legal advice obtained indicates that the definition of the term "race" in the Bill is non-exhaustive. Therefore, despite the Committee stage amendment, it is still open to argument that the term includes nationality and national origin. If so, the Bill if enacted could lead to numerous litigations and confusions.
Clause 2 of the Bill provides that an object of the Bill is to give effect to the standards of International Labour Recommendation 111. The instrument and hence the standards laid down therein are not legally binding on Hong Kong. Some of these standards may not be appropriate to the circumstances of Hong Kong. It is wrong in principle for any Bill to seek to give effect to any international instrument which has not been adopted by the Government for implementation in Hong Kong. The effect of the clause is that it would require the court to interpret the Bill as far as possible in a way which is consistent with the non-binding instrument. This is a departure from the common law principle of statutory interpretation. The anomaly remains despite the Committee stage amendment which seeks to delete the express provision in clause 7(3) which requires such an anomalous interpretation.
The Bill provides for the courts to order re-employment. In the interests of good labour relations and to ensure that neither the employer nor the employee can be required to accept re-employment as a remedy against his wish, a re-employment order should be made only if both parties consent. Such requirement for mutual consent has been written into the new section 32(n) of the Employment Ordinance enacted by this Council on 17 June this year, yet a similar requirement has not been written into clause 46 of the Bill or the proposed clause 43 in the Committee stage amendment.
Under the Bill, all legal proceedings are to be taken in the District Court. In accordance with the District Court Ordinance the maximum damages to be awarded are $120,000. As anti-discrimination legislation is new in Hong Kong and employers, especially the small employers, are worried about unintentional contravention of the new law, a maximum limit of the compensation to be awarded would to an extent alleviate their anxiety. However, Mrs WONG proposes a Committee stage amendment to remove the limit. The amendment will render the Bill even more unacceptable, particularly to small employers like that of a domestic helper.
During the Bills Committee meetings, one Member and the Administration raised the possible impact of the Bill on our Labour Importation Scheme. Mrs WONG took the point and will move a Committee stage amendment to provide exemption for immigration legislation. However, despite the Committee stage amendment, the legality of the Labour Importation Scheme and the administrative practices under the scheme would still be open to challenge if this Bill were enacted. The challenge if successful would adversely affect the local workers. The matter is so serious that my colleague, the Secretary for Education and Manpower, finds it necessary to be here and address Members on the Bill.
Mr President, the enactment of this Bill would go against the Government's policy to adopt a step-by-step approach and to take account of public opinions in taking each step. Therefore, we object to the Bill as a matter of principle. Furthermore, the Bill contains a number of unacceptable features which might cause anxiety to the public at large. They are not cured by the numerous Committee stage amendments. I would, therefore, strongly urge Members to vote against the Bill.
Thank you.
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MRS ELIZABETH WONG: I should like to thank Members for their comments and I would like to thank Members for their support. I think this debate is a very
educational process. And I hope it is more educational for the Secretary for Education than for us because I am singularly surprised at the Government's singular lack of resolve to put the law in place and deplore the senior government officials' habit of repeating the speeches of the past and got the facts wrong. And I hope the Secretary for Education and the Secretary for Home affairs actually do their homework before they speak. I shall explain why.
Now, the Government's sabotaging the Bill today is very disappointing, of course. More disappointing, I think, is the threat that the Government will withhold funding of the EOB Commission in order to make sure there is no law on racial discrimination, remove discrimination in race and many other discriminatory measures. I think this threat is deplorable.
Now, I hope the Government will learn how to cope with situations which it cannot handle. It does not help if you just repeat the things of the past. I think you have got the speech for the Bill introduced by the Honourable LAU Chin-shek rather than by me when you repeated your labour problems, which I understood and which I in fact put the Committee stage amendments to amend.
Now, I think, in response to Members' legitimate concerns at the Bills Committee I proposed major amendments by the deletion of "nationality" and "national origin". This is the origin of our labour importation policy. Our policy is racially prejudiced but it is disguised under the word "nationality". You know, we are very bad to our own people. Look at the illegal immigrants from China. Do you think they are well-treated? Look at the new immigrants from China. We are not talking about race here. We are talking about nationality, and because of Members' concern, I deleted the whole lot from the Bill.
And also I am perplexed that you are still harping on the exemptions not being wide enough. I mean, it appears to me that you consider the law as it was when I read it last year, not as it is when I am going to move the Committee stage amendment. It appears Government considers lawful exemption is not wide enough. I have made sweeping, gaping exemptions in the Committee stage amendment which you have not read. I know you have not read because you have not referred to them. And I find that to make any wider exemptions will make a laughing stock of this Bill and this piece of legislation will not then be worth the paper it is written on, and I do not think I can accept that.
And I think the lessons we have learnt today are two things: principles are not negotiable; and you do not hide behind figures. Human rights is not a question of crunching numbers from artificial consultation. Human rights is given to us by God not by you, right? So, I should like, therefore, Honourable
Members to disregard what the officials say and vote according to your conscience.
Now, Mr President, from the discussions earlier on, I know I am going to lose, and I have no hope of passing through even the Second Reading, but never mind, I am honourable. I shall not be like a senior government official. I shall not withdraw this Bill. I would like to have it voted down rather than withdraw
it. The only point I would like to make is this, "㏑﹟ゼΘи-
临斗 ". The revolution is not successful we should continue with our fight. I think, Honourable Members, we shall succeed, Mr President.
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill put.
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Voice vote taken.
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Mr Edward HO claimed a division.
︙┯ぱ某璶―翴∕
畊セЫ瞷秈︽翴∕
畊略矗眶︗某瞷窖∕ぇ某肈独窥ㄤ军某竡ぇキ单诀穦贺壁兵ㄒぉ弄
叫︗某∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
畊琌Τヴ︙好拜︗某琌癸┮∕瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr James TIEN, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Mr MOK Ying-fan and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 26 votes in favour of the motion and 31 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was negatived.
畊ガ觅Θ某26は癸31琌ガ某綝∕
畊パキ单诀穦贺壁兵ㄒぇ弄某ぃ莉∕セЫぃ穦碞赣兵ㄒ秈︽秈˙ぇ某ㄆ祘セ畊瞷既氨穦某ヘ程边繺渤It is for the last supper. Unfortunately, it is Good Friday. さぱ边非9確穦ぃ琌贬9琌さぱ边9
6.45 pm
と645だ
Sitting suspended.
穦某既氨
9.00 pm
边9タ
Council then resumed.
セЫ穦某繦τ確
Resumption of Second Reading Debate on Bill
確兵ㄒ弄臛阶
HONG KONG BILL OF RIGHTS (AMENDMENT) BILL 1997
1997翠舦猭璹兵ㄒ
Resumption of debate on Second Reading which was moved on 3 April 1997
確るら笆某弄臛阶
︙玊く某璓勉畊パセ兵ㄒ⊿ΤΘミ兵ㄒ〆穦┮セ兵ㄒ笆某糂ホ某祇ē玡иざ残弧チ囊癸セ兵ㄒ猭
翠舦猭兵ㄒ"舦猭"硄筁材3(2)兵砏﹚"┮Τ玡猭ㄒぃ籔セ兵ㄒ⊿Τ╄牟秆睦ㄤ籔セ兵ㄒ╄牟场だ瞷ぉ紀埃"и獺讽セЫ癸硂兵ゅ瞶秆琌ヴ︙舦猭硄筁玡猭ㄒ籔舦猭Τ┮牟А穦礚┮赣兵ㄒ莱続ノ场猭ㄒ琌舦猭材7兵砏﹚赣兵ㄒ琌癸現┎㎝┮Τそ恨讽Ыㄣи獺讽現┎σ納続ノ現┎癸╬現郸┪現┎籔╬ぇ丁禗砠︓カチ籔カチぇ丁ヴ︙禗砠Аぃ舦猭┮紇臫传杠弧舦猭そ猭絛瞅ずㄣ
琌硂ㄢ兜兵ゅ瞷舦猭┮玻ネ家竁ㄢ薄猵τセЫ讽ミ猭ゼ砰诡ㄓ︓翠禗畑瞷ㄒ程∕琌狦╬ぇ丁禗砠┮瞣疉ㄇ猭ㄒゼ猭猭畑獽ぃ穦まノ舦猭ê琌妮╬禗砠舦猭材3(2)兵ア続ノ
讽礛膀だ舦玥и-
⊿Τ瞶パ弧猭畑岿猭畑琌膏睦猭ㄒ程舦诀篶瘤礛セЫ璽砫ミ猭程沧秆睦舦ご猭畑狦и-
ぃ骸種猭畑秆睦┮玻ネ狦┪粄ゼ笷璓и-
ㄓ辨ヘ夹и-
莱讽Ω璹猭ㄒ┪﹚穝猭ㄒ笷璓и-
璶―狦
畊и獺さぱセЫㄆ粄硄筁舦猭琌辨癸┮Τ猭玻ネヴ︙猭籔舦猭Τ┮牟獽莱沮材3(2)兵砆絣
笷瓃ヘ糂ホ某矗硂兜某兵ㄒ琌セ兵ㄒゼㄏ舦猭耎甶︓約獂続ノ絛瞅ㄏㄤ続ノ┮Τ╬禗砠
ㄤ龟讽羛瓣舦〆穦糵某璣瓣現┎翠碞そチ舦㎝現獀舦瓣悔そ患ユ厨矗闽猔ㄆ兜ê碞琌︙舦猭続ノ現┎㎝╬ぇ丁禗砠τぃ続ノ╬籔╬ぇ丁禗砠传杠弧︙舦猭Чぃ癸カチぇ丁╬禗砠玻ネ硂琌舦〆穦矗闽猔ㄆ兜羛瓣舦〆穦谋眔舦猭続ノ絛瞅Τㄤ龟ぃだ笷そチ舦㎝現獀舦瓣悔そ璶―
礚阶︙さぱセ兵ㄒ瘤礛ぃ琌璹τ糂ホ某ぃ琌璹ㄏㄤ続ノ┮Τ╬禗砠程ぶ続ノ场猭ぃ阶琌街ゴ﹛ぃ阶琌╬籔╬ぇ丁禗砠临琌╬诀篶籔Θぇ丁禗砠羆τēぇ璶琌瞣疉猭τ赣兜猭籔舦猭Τ┮牟獽莱赣ア硂琌场だㄆ猭иぃ笵ㄤㄆ種ǎ-
祔祇ē弧-
猭и莱赣蔼皘硂ㄒ玻ネㄇゼ瞶稱狦
畊и獺Τㄆ穦借好琂礛舦猭材3兵穦砆紀埃╯澈︙ご璶ミ猭瞷ミ猭癦ぃ琌逞计ぱ关㏑癸иΤㄢ猭材и辨硓筁さぱ硂兜某兵ㄒ臛阶盢某癸舦猭戳辨硓筁ミ猭は琈セЫ種ǎ痙魁и辨らи-
ㄏそ痷タ镑硓筁舦猭翠だ祇揣ㄤㄏ現┎糹︽ㄤ帽瓣砫ヴ
и-
讽礛ぃа癘膀セ猭材兵砏﹚ら疭跋ミ猭诀闽璹ミ猭ㄒぃ眔籔瓣悔舦そぷㄤ琌そチ舦㎝現獀舦瓣悔そΤ┮牟琂礛и-
沮癸膀セ猭材兵瞶秆ㄏ翠猭才瓣悔舦そそチ舦㎝現獀舦瓣悔そи-
粄蔼皘ㄒ龟ㄏи-
稰碽さΩ硄筁セ兵ㄒ琌辨 ㄏウ穦砆紀埃 らミ猭诀闽┪猭诀闽镑膀セ猭材兵弘狦ミ猭诀闽盢ㄓミ猭獽镑だㄏ瓃そ跑Θセ猭
и辨礚阶盢ㄓ狦︙硂よご膥尿и-
辨猭诀闽砰穦さΩセЫ硄筁硂兜兵ㄒ琌辨ら猭诀闽镑瞶秆材兵だ砰瞷そチ舦の現獀舦瓣悔そ
畊и耕Ν玡纯籔ㄇ舅猭盡產渡酵-
弧瘤礛嘿穦紀埃硂兜猭硂琌荡癸﹚Τㄇ舅猭盡產粄獶﹚穦硂妓暗沮セ翠猭砰ごΤ猭滦┦琌︽ㄏ兜舦硂兜舦琌才膀セ猭沮и-
ご礛Τ猭滦猭畑ご礛Τ掉﹚猭ㄒΤê琌┮嘿紀埃琌礚ウ笻はи-
そ猭︽現猭いㄇ玥τㄤい玥獽琌赣兜紀埃Ч⊿Τ瞶沮Ч⊿Τヴ︙猭膀娄Ч⊿Τì镑瞶σ納讽礛產┪穦借好︙珼驹ㄤ龟翠ずㄏ琌羆服穦︽現Ы妓钡猭滦硂琌舅猭拜肈穦ま癬產阶︓弧硂琌⊿ㄆи谋眔硂眔贝癚и獺盢ㄓΤ猭畑ず瞷硂ㄇ禗砠ㄒΤ秈︽禗砠矗硂芠翴
礚阶︙セЫさぱ辨镑结ぉ舦猭и-
戳辨ウ笷狦ê碞琌р场舦猭硄筁瞷牟猭ぉ紀埃
и辨某竒σ納镑やさぱ兵ㄒ
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I rise on behalf of the Liberal Party to oppose the Honourable LAU Chin-shek's Bill, the Hong Kong Bill of Rights (Amendment) Bill 1997.
As many of my colleagues know, I was the convenor of the Bill of Rights Bills Committee and here I can probably help to clarify that in fact inter-citizen rights were deliberately excluded from the Bill after much representation from both the business community and the legal fraternity. It was as a result of the very hard lobbying plus representation put forward to the Bills Committee that the clause, that section 7, was actually added in to make it clear that inter-citizen rights would be excluded.
I believe the main reason at the time was that, the main reason being put forward in fact by very eminent members of the legal fraternity was that, it is uncharted territory, that we would be moving into an area where the water is, to say the least, a bit muddy, and that it would in fact create a lot of difficulties if cases should arise. And so I think that it was on their advice, and not on the advice of the business community, that this was eventually excluded. And this one can look up in the Hansard. It is very, very clear. The legislative intent was extremely clear. There was no doubt whatsoever that the legislative intent was in fact to exclude inter-citizen rights.
Now, this is point one. The second point is that I think Members have to pay due regard to the presence of section 7. I think that if we are to vote in favour of Mr LAU Chin-shek's Bill, it would actually create an anomaly and uncertainty because on the one hand you are introducing a new element in section 3, but on the other hand, section 7 still applies, and in section 7, it states quite clearly that inter-citizen rights are excluded.
So, I do appeal to Members to join me in opposing this Bill.
郭Θ某璓勉畊翠舦猭兵ㄒ"舦猭"材7兵﹚舦猭砏﹚舦猭琌癸現┎┮Τそ渤恨讽Ыの現┎┪そ渤恨讽Ы︽ㄆヴ︙Τ
せる﹙糜禗璊(Tam Hing-yee v. Wu Tai-wai)ンいよ猭皘粄舦猭材3兵㎝材7兵莱だ秨膏睦材3兵莱瞶秆舦猭ノ糵┮Τ玡﹚兵ㄒ莱ノ┮Τ翠猭琌る禗畑崩陆硂兜∕粄瘤礛翠舦猭陪ぃ才瓣悔舦そ種瓜パ兵ゅ睲贰糶カチ籔現┎ぇ丁禗砠┮猭畑ぃ硂妓膏睦禗畑∕Θㄒ讽現┎⊿Τ矗禗┮瞷癸┮Τ╬ぇ丁禗砠舦猭常琌ぃ続ノ
и冈灿筁硂ㄒ禗畑ㄤ龟矗筁瞷舦猭材7兵砏﹚ぃ才舦猭疭琌瓣悔舦猭ミ猭種瓜ê碞琌秆睦の莱ノ舦猭ゲ斗璶σ納ㄤヘぃ阶琌カチ籔カチぇ丁┪現┎籔カチぇ丁舦常莱ぉ砏﹚㎝続ノ硂薄猵и-
粄舦猭莱続ノ┮Τ猭
埃舦猭ぇи-
ョ羛瓣舦〆穦きる沮翠材Ω﹚戳厨舦猭材7兵莱莱ノ╬ぇ丁赣〆穦闽猔翠讽ゼΤミ猭砏恨╬ぇ丁禗砠┮盢舦猭莱ノ絛瞅耎甶︓╬籔╬ぇ丁琌才瓣悔舦そ
材硂暗猭才膀セ猭砏﹚阣ネ纯きるら厨祇筁絞ゅ彻舦猭材7兵癸猭ㄒ硑Θ硂琌ぃ才そチ舦の現獀舦瓣悔そ種硂兜種ǎノやи-
阶翴琌︗猭盡產やи-
猭
沮現┎倒и-
繷種ǎ現┎常は癸盢舦猭莱ノ╬籔╬ぇ丁猭ㄒи稱坚睲現┎┮は癸種ǎ璶琌狦盢舦猭琁窖闽╬┪猭ㄒ穦玻ネぃ铆﹚┦ぷㄤ琌舦猭泊А瞣疉玥跑Θぃ睲贰ㄒΤ闽╬ネ舦舦の︑パの窽ゎ猍跌单硂ㄇ絛氓常莱ㄣ砰ミ猭и粄ㄣ砰ミ猭琌続讽タㄇは猍跌猭╬铆兵ㄒ单猭ㄤ龟ㄢぃ穦が逼ジの祇ネ侥
ㄤΩ現┎程璶種ǎ琌硂穦糤禗砠狡馒┦τ猭畑溃穦糤闽硂翴и粄礚斗紐納カチ矗禗砠璶σ納基-
穦籔畍坝秖狦璶まノ舦猭臛臔瞶パ-
穦р丁㎝窥璸衡ず硂ぃノи-
び踞み
材Τㄇ粄舦莱冈灿猭ㄒ秈︽砏恨ぃ莱ノ瓣悔そ硂或阀珹┦兵ゅ砏恨传杠弧-
粄そ惫勉ぃ镑腨略磅︽盿ㄓぃ絋﹚┦ぃ筁猭畑矪瞶硂ㄇ╬ぇ丁ㄆ兜ㄤ龟ョ莱ユパ┮孔瞶∕硂璶∕﹚ㄆ薄琌瞶τ磅︽и-
ぃΤ或螟猭畑癸炊硄猭絢阀├竒盽璶秈︽秆睦猭畑ㄤ龟ョ剪策硂ㄇ秆睦猭ㄒㄏΤ冈灿は猍跌猭ㄒ猭畑ご璶竒盽癸硂ㄇ猭ㄒ秆睦┮ㄏ舦猭莱ノ╬籔╬ぇ丁и-
ぃノ踞み
程Τ粄筁寸戳丁ぃ莱甧砛э猭ㄒ╉紇臫翠キ铆筁寸琌и粄Τ惠璶и-
莱荷秖矗τ硂Ωэи谋眔ョ才舦猭㎝膀セ猭┮琌続讽璹
ㄣ砰莱ノよ狦セ兵ㄒ莉眔硄筁莱赣妓莱ノ㎡ㄤ龟и-
惠璶Τㄒ穿猭畑钩Τ摸ㄒ﹙眎き盽北狥㏄ン琌闽ē阶︑パの馒粁㎝眎き盽北禗琌闽节两ン讽眎き盽秤禗竭纕肂笷碭κ窾じ猭﹛瘤礛舦猭玥琌闽現┎籔╬ぇ丁兵ㄒ谋眔舦猭玥ョ莱続籔ぇ丁┮猭畑∕まノ舦猭材16兵Τ闽ē阶︑パ玥猭﹛竭纕肂狦び蔼穦癸ē阶︑パ硑Θ紇臫琂礛Τ硂胊狦┮计肂莱赣借好ョ莱Ω秈︽癚阶硂﹙陪ボ羇ㄏ舦猭ぃ続ノ╬籔╬ぇ丁猭ㄒ猭畑穦まノ舦猭玥把σ㎝σ納膀娄狦и-
さぱ睲贰弧舦猭ミ猭種瓜才瓣悔舦そㄓミ猭種瓜琌弧ウョ続ノ┮Τ猭ㄤ龟琌続稼瑆舦そ莱ノΤ摸薄猵┮и-
Τ伦碔ㄒまノチ谋眔硂琌兜続讽璹и-
ぉや
セ略朝勉
SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS: Mr President, I would like, first of all, to express my appreciation to the Honourable LAU Chin-shek for his good intention in introducing this Bill. It seeks to reverse a court's decision which has attracted comments within the legal profession.
Section 3(2) of the Bill of Rights Ordinance provides that all pre-existing legislation that does not admit of a construction consistent with these Ordinances to the extent of the inconsistency repealed. Section 7 of the Ordinance provides
that the Ordinance binds only the Government and public authorities.
In 1992 in the case, Tam Hing-yee v. Wu Tai-wai, the Court of Appeal held that by virtue of Section 7 the Ordinance had no application to a dispute between private individuals. This means that, notwithstanding section 3(2) of the Ordinance, pre-existing legislation which is inconsistent with the Ordinance will not be repealed to the extent of the inconsistency if the legislation deals with relations between private individuals only.
Within the legal profession there is doubt whether the ruling in this case represents a correct interpretation of the legislative intent behind the Ordinance. The Bill seeks to reverse the court's ruling in Tam v. Wu so as to make the Bill of Rights Ordinance applicable to all pre-existing legislation and not merely to legislation invoked by the Government or public authorities.
However, it is not clear whether the Bill as presently drafted will achieve its intended objective. The legal advice I have received is that even if section 3 were amended as proposed in the Bill the section will still have to be applied subject to section 7. This being so, it appears that the Bill, if enacted, will alter nothing except to cast doubt on the correctness of the judgment of the Court of Appeal in Tam v. Wu. It will take another court case in order to establish whether or not the Bill, if enacted, does reverse the ruling in Tam v. Wu.
Following the introduction of this Bill in April this year, Members agreed that a Bills Committee should be established to examine the important legal and other implications of the proposed amendment. It is unfortunate that the Second Reading debate of the Bill is now resumed without the benefit of the advice of any Bills Committee, otherwise at least the drafting of the Bill could have been improved. As it stands now, it is for consideration whether the Bill would clarify the law or merely render it less certain.
In the circumstances, Members may wish to consider carefully whether it is appropriate to enact the Bill now.
糂ホ某璓勉現叭┮弧セ兵ㄒ⊿ΤΘミ兵ㄒ〆穦琌ン獶盽堡ㄆ琌и-
妓逼钉近ぃ硂碞框狙
畊иセるらセЫ穦某笆某弄セ兵ㄒ纯竒腨ㄓ弧セ兵ㄒぃ衡琌穝ミ猭τ琌ガ瞷︽翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3兵絋ミ猭種瓜讽礛炊硄猭砰琌蹦ノ猭秆睦τぃ琌ミ猭秆睦セ兵ㄒ︑礛琌穝ミ猭ぃ筁ミ猭ヘ琌璶絋ガ瞷︽兵ゅ種
翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3(2)兵砏﹚"┮Τ玡猭ㄒぃ籔セ兵ㄒ⊿Τ╄牟秆睦ㄤ籔セ兵ㄒ╄牟场だ瞷ぉ紀埃"
兵ゅ種セㄓ獶盽睲贰碞琌┮Τ笻は翠舦猭兵ㄒ"玡猭ㄒ"常穦翠舦猭兵ㄒネ龟琁讽ぱ砆紀埃玂靡セ翠猭ㄒぃ穦笻は翠舦猭兵ㄒ讽礛êㄇ"玡猭ㄒ"璝笻は翠舦猭兵ㄒ穦パ猭畑ら秈︽禗砠掉∕ㄓ弧礚阶Τ闽禗砠琌疉の現┎籔╬┪╬籔╬ぇ丁猭畑ご莱Τ舦沮翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3兵掉∕"玡猭ㄒ"猭┦
ぃ筁︙玊く某㎝郭Θ某矗禗畑碞﹙ㄒ掉∕癸翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3兵秆睦玱Τ┮ぃ禗畑粄安禗砠琌╬籔╬ぇ丁玥ぃㄌ苦翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3兵盢笻は舦"玡猭ㄒ"紀埃タ產┮弧琌翠舦猭兵ㄒ材7兵砏﹚Τ闽猭ㄒ癸現┎の┮Τそ恨讽ЫㄣΤ
и筁纯竒ぃぶ猭厩粄禗畑秆睦笻は翠舦猭兵ㄒミ猭種ョぃそチ舦の現獀舦瓣悔そ砏﹚穦ま癬ぃ盽砏薄猵庢ㄒㄓ弧兵Τ猍跌Θだ"玡猭ㄒ"狦パ現┎ㄌ苦赣猭ㄒ猍跌︽玥妮笻は翠舦猭兵ㄒ猭畑ガ赣猭ㄒ砆紀埃琌狦パ╬ㄌ苦赣猭ㄒ猍跌︽玥猭畑獽礚舦ガ猭ㄒ礚硂妓陪琌伐ぃ瞶
и粄Τゲ璶矗セ兵ㄒ絋ガ翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3兵ミ猭種瓜続ノ┮Τ猭ㄒτぃ虫ゎ続ノ現┎┪そ恨讽Ыまノ猭ㄒ
畊い瓣瓣盽〆穦さるガ璝セ翠Τ猭ㄒぃ砆蹦疭跋猭ㄒ讽い珹翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3兵硂薄猵硂兵ㄒ癸翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3兵璹ョΤㄢぱ关㏑ぃ筁沮翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3兵ガ笻は翠舦猭兵ㄒτ綝紀埃"玡猭ㄒ"ㄤ龟琌せるら翠舦猭兵ㄒネら砆紀埃瘤礛êㄇ猭ㄒ砆紀埃琌璶らパ猭畑糵瞶ンтㄓ,ョパ猭ㄒ砏﹚"狦ヒ猭ㄒ紀埃猭ㄒ,玥羇ㄏらヒ猭ㄒ砆紀埃猭ㄒョぃ镑τ確"盢玥ノセ兵ㄒ獽眔挡阶璶セ兵ㄒ竒セЫ硄筁るら玡舅ネ玥ㄏるら翠舦猭兵ㄒ材3兵ぃΝ竒砆竒璹材3兵紀埃┮Τ笻は舦"玡猭ㄒ"ョぃΤ
羆砰ㄓ弧и辨荷薄猵眏舦玂毁τセ兵ㄒヘョ
畊セ略朝勉玃叫︗ㄆやセ兵ㄒ谅谅
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill put and agreed to.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Bill read the Second time.
兵ㄒ竒筁弄
Bill committed to a Committee of the whole Council pursuant to Standing Order 43(1).
ㄌ沮穦某盽砏材43兵材(1)蹿砏﹚盢兵ㄒ〆ぉ砰〆穦糵某
Committee stage of Bill
兵ㄒ砰〆穦糵某顶琿
Council went into Committee.
セЫ秈砰〆穦糵某顶琿
HONG KONG BILL OF RIGHTS (AMENDMENT) BILL 1997
1997翠舦猭璹兵ㄒ
Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to.
兵ㄒ材1の2兵莉眔硄筁
Council then resumed.
砰〆穦繦τ確ミ猭Ы
Third Reading of Bill
兵ㄒ弄
MR LAU CHIN-SHEK reported that the
糂ホ某厨孔
HONG KONG BILL OF RIGHTS (AMENDMENT) BILL 1997
1997翠舦猭璹兵ㄒ
had passed through Committee without amendment. He moved the Third Reading of the Bill.
礚竒タ硄筁砰〆穦糵某顶琿笆某弄瓃兵ㄒ
Question on the Third Reading of the Bill proposed and put.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
畊ボ
Mr IP Kwok-him claimed a division.
腑瓣辆某璶―翴∕
畊セЫ瞷秈︽翴∕
畊略矗眶︗某瞷窖∕ぇ某肈1997翠舦猭璹兵ㄒぉ弄硄筁
叫︗某∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙ぇい匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
畊叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr James TIEN, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 28 votes in favour of the motion and 23 against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
畊ガ觅Θ某28は癸23琌ガ某莉硄筁
Bill read the Third time and passed.
兵ㄒ竒弄硄筁
畊︗某セ畊斗弧ㄢ杠セ畊钮臛阶ぃ稱弧杠ぃ稱紇臫產∕﹚兵ㄒ瞣疉ゲ斗パセ畊掉∕拜肈碞琌琌Τパそ┊┯踞拜肈沮场だや兵ㄒ某弧猭ウ陪瞣疉そ┊沮セ畊┮眔猭種ǎ材3兵莱㎝材7兵ㄖσ納セ畊挡阶琌ウ⊿Τパそ┊┯踞珿セ兵ㄒ琵產σ納セ畊稱盢硂兜讽┮掉∕称ら把σセ畊ぃ辨セ畊┮弧杠紇臫產稱猭セ畊ぃ幢弧セ畊ゲ礛癸セ畊琌膀┮眔猭種ǎτ掉∕
Resumption of Second Reading Debate on Bill
確兵ㄒ弄臛阶
HOUSING (AMENDMENT) (NO. 3) BILL 1996
1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒ
Resumption of debate on Second Reading which was moved on 11 December 1996
確せるら笆某弄臛阶
ッ笷某璓勉畊セ略1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒの1997┬璹兵ㄒ〆穦畊ōだ祇ē瓃ㄢ兵兵ㄒА某兵ㄒパ郭Θ某∕﹚ぃ碞ㄤ矗兵ㄒ確弄臛阶セ盢栋い蹲厨〆穦碞辩模┚某矗1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒ坝某筁祘の猭
1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒΞ璹┬〆穦"┬〆穦"恨瞶そ︘虫︗–3浪癚Ωのそ某糤碩ぃ眔禬筁Ω浪癚硄等糤碩
〆穦纯籔現┎讽Ы庢︽Ω穦某碞兜拜肈ユ传種ǎ┘ミ初ごΤだ猍
癸兵ㄒ某ノ硄等瞯糤碩現┎讽Ы︘め產畑糤碩蔼┪硄等硄等瞯ぃ﹚は琈︘め璽踞現┎粄瞷┬〆穦蹦ノㄢ籔ゑㄒい︗计15%の18.5%А纯把σセ︘秨や家Αの瓣悔镣墩τ络﹚珿瞶のち龟は琈︘め璽踞讽Ыョそ︘めキА籔ゑㄒい︗计度9%糤碩环ゑ龟悔戈糤τ現┎ゲ斗絋玂贺穦戈方そ莱矗ㄑぉ痷タΤ惠璶
场だ〆粄ヘ玡ㄢ籔ゑㄒい︗计禬そ︘め璽踞τ現┎Τ砫ヴΜ產畑矗ㄑ璽踞﹡┮︗某粄ヒ摸禣基计は琈Μ︘め璽踞ョ厩の芠
〆穦ョ紐納ス兵ㄒ硄筁そ穦パ蔼硄等瞯τどま祇蔼硄等蔼碻吏碿狦瘤礛辩模┚某眏秸讽Ы∕﹚糤碩ご斗糵稸︽ㄆ〆粄Τゲ璶秈˙玂毁絋玂碩眔瞶
現┎讽Ыу蝶兵ㄒ某ノ硄等瞯碩斑夹ゼσ納ㄤ龟悔珹恏翴砞琁恨瞶蝴禣ノ畉昏单场だ〆粄辩模┚某秆睦現┎讽Ы莱そぃ摸︘め惠璶Τ舦ぇ络﹚计肂ぃ
兵ㄒ某–3秈︽Ω浪癚ㄏ︘めΤ耕続莱戳ョ籔┬〆穦瞷そ坝め浪癚戳璓現┎讽Ы玱粄瞷ㄢΩ浪癚戳崩︽笲▆ぃ莱э跑τ坝め惠璶耕丁璸购の崩︽穨叭祇甶┮ぃ莱矗阶〆玥粄そ﹡チゼゲ舧3Ω┮盿ㄓ耕碩
瘤礛現┎讽Ы眏秸┬〆穦︘加笲眀ヘíぃ耞糤璝兵ㄒ莉硄筁癸┬〆穦Μ紇臫〆玥粄┬〆穦ゲ斗矗蔼ネ玻磷盢パΘセ北ぃ到τ旧璓莲籯锣儿そ︘めō
パ琌┬〆穦璶Μㄓ方現┎讽Ы粄兵ㄒΞΤ笻┬兵ㄒ材4(4)兵砏﹚の弘赣兵ゅ砏﹚"┬〆穦現郸莱璓絋玂眖恏眔Μ莱ìや恏竒盽秨や"场だ〆粄赣兵兵ゅ璹﹚現郸よ皐璶┬〆穦璹の磅︽現郸籔赣よ皐璓獽籔砏﹚才
竒冈灿坝某〆穦4︗〆珹セず盢穦碞辩模┚某1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒ矗〆穦糵某顶琿タ祔耕冈荷ユタず甧璓琌埃硄等瞯ョ矗ㄑ籔ゑㄒい︗计10%現┎讽Ы籔〆ゼ碞某10%笷Θ醚讽Ыボ10%ろ芠膀娄の紆┦璸衡快猭ゼΤタい睲贰璹癸┬〆穦ら磅︽篶Θ螟〆玥粄タい璹赣κだゑ盢┬〆穦┮络﹚非结ぉ讽Ыì镑紆┦〆粄Τ闽タず甧ョぃ穦Й锚┬〆穦磅︽ㄤ現郸ㄒ碔め紉Μ蛮┪蒥〆の讽Ыゼ碞Τ闽兵ゅ膏睦笷Θ璓種ǎ
瘤礛〆穦籔現┎ぃ種ǎ玂毁そ︘め玡矗场だ〆Аや1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒ確弄臛阶畊琌〆穦俱砰種ǎ
畊и瞷略チ囊碞硂兵兵ㄒ祇и㎝チ囊種ǎ畊セ琌や辩模┚某某兵ㄒ瘤礛辩模┚某矗兵ㄒ癸┬〆穦∕﹚Τ﹚讽硄等蔼戈糤︘め獽穦蛮ゴ阑よ琌戈發ぃ基よョ璽踞ぃ癬ど孔簗硔硈獴瞷┬〆穦︘め璽踞络﹚┮璹籔ゑㄒい︗计15%┪18.5%
硂络﹚よ猭ぃ瞶近そ祅癘┮砏﹚肂ぇ︘そ蒥チ常琌Μ-
矗ㄑそ犁┬ヘ碞琌腊-
秆∕蔼┬秨やぇ璚拜肈琌琂礛現┎粄硂竤╬加蒥初ぃ︑︽秆∕︘拜肈妮惠璶腊或临璶-
Μ蔼㎡現┎琌稱р︘そ跑贺坝珇㎡獺現┎程ぶョ穦種そ砞ミ琌琵顶糷Τ﹡ぇ┮腊ㄇ礚猭璽踞╬加蒥チ秆∕︘拜肈τぃ琌-
"秨"
材讽Ы┮络﹚そキ琌痷︘め璽踞㎡硂翴琌眔坝篹沮ミ猭Ы┮莉眔戈癸程Μ20%そめㄓ弧ㄤ︓κだ翴τ-
タ琌程惠璶腊竤и秈˙秆睦籔ゑㄒい︗计络﹚拜肈安產癸计磝搐眔耕獽穦笵い︗计ぃ琌キА计讽ネゑ耕铆﹚︘めㄓ弧砲㎝Μぶ︘め┮璽踞琌ゑい︗计κだゑ临璶蔼иノㄒㄓ弧狦キい︗计15%砲︘め┮璶ㄤ18%20%︓κだ翴讽礛璝ゑ瞯蔼笷25%-
琌Τそ穿琌êㄇ斗笆ノ15%︓25%ㄓ煤︘め獽琌程砲︘め硂ㄇ薄猵и獺Τ计厩盽醚常穦フパǎ讽Ы瞷ノ络﹚夹非ぃ才め璽踞
礛τ現┎绊瓃络﹚夹非よ猭琌瞶ㄤ瞶沮玱螟獺狝材現┎ボ沮兜秸琩挡狦祇瞷ㄤ瓣產瓣チゑㄒい︗计20%τ璹15%┪18.5%ゑㄒи-
粄硂弧猭琌眔坝篹琌–瓣產Τぃ褐㎝穦玂毁翠褐㎝穦玂毁玱耕ㄤ竒蕾祇甶籔翠璝瓣產ぶ安и-
籔ゑㄒい︗计籔硂ㄇ瓣產妓玥妓キ產畑翠ㄉΤネ借獽穦耕ㄤ瓣產現┎盢翠い︗计ゑㄒ籔ㄤ瓣產钡ゑ耕琌呸胯睼睹
材現┎竒盽╬加︘め┮煤ユ籔ゑㄒい︗计27%やそキ膀娄硂弧猭ョ琌ぃ瞶╬加加基㎝禥琌現┎蔼基現郸┮旧璓τ硂現郸琌穦┮ぃ钡現┎矗ㄑそ场だ琌璶腊╬加蒥初礚秆∕︘拜肈顶糷-
矗ㄑ続﹡┮さ現┎盢そ籔╬蒥初ゑ琌︑ベ㎡チ囊粄讽Ы络﹚莱赣臮の︘め產畑Μ㎝讽基キパ瞷翠Τせせ窾そ虫︗そど碩龟ì崩笆硄等и-
某そど碩莱ゑ耕–硄等瞯2%キ庢絋玂硄等瞯蔼戈糤碩そ﹡チネキご礛Τ﹚玂毁そキ玥莱﹚︘めい︗计10%┪硂キ耕钡瞷キτ琌场だ︘め┮璽踞
礛τ硂兜某綝現┎眏疨у蝶粄穦旧璓┬竝瞷íи纯竒硑Θ┬竝恨瞶Θセ蔼琌恨瞶羱㎝戮絪びτ旧璓や糤庢ㄒㄓ弧┬ㄆ叭竒瞶る羱硈肂瑉禟单–るい︗计琌96,000じи弧筂琌96,000じ璝┬竝盢恏恨瞶╬犁て矗蔼戮ネ玻獺硂Θセ琌そ瞷í琌恏蝴玂緄や碩ど筁祏祏5丁糤283%蝴玂緄や碩ど璶琌┬竝菏服┯坝よ瞷拜肈挡狦旧璓そ借伐畉场だ侣恏瞷ホ辅拜肈ゲ斗秈︽砏家蝴祘加借伐畉琌┬竝菏恨┯坝ぃ┮璓┬竝ぃ虫ゎ⊿Τ荷浪癚筁ア┪э到菏服┯坝临盢┯踞硂ㄇや砫ヴ锣儿︘めō硂琌ぃそキ
畊и临矗ㄑㄇ戈陪ボ┬竝恨瞶蝴よぃ才Θセ痲┬〆穦せ崩︽恏恨瞶╬犁て璸购ㄇ恏秈︽龟喷ㄤいぇ琌盢瓁緿紈恏沮┬〆穦倒и-
戈莉уΤ闽┯坝琌ノ┬竝65%やぃ虫ゎЧ┬竝戮恨瞶赣恏τ临寥柬產刚稱稱╬┯坝斗笆ノ┬竝65%や獽恨瞶恏寥柬ǎ┬竝ぞ拜肈の禣や拜肈琌或腨畊иぃ稱や拜肈鸟и粄セЫ瞷┮臛阶ヴ︙兜某璝莉硄筁常ㄏ┬竝浪癚ㄤ瞷︽絪琌Τ秖ぞのΘセ北よ琌暗眔ぃ
畊セ略朝勉
毒浪膀某璓勉畊繦穦祇ēそ戮喋骸捌竝竡祇ゅン倒и-
τи祇ē穦莱喋骸捌竝ゅンず甧иぃ笵畊琌粄и碞莱︓赣ゅン玥琌捌竝倒–︗某
畊иぃ笵硂琌┬祔祇ē簍勉иぃゴ衡瞶穦硂翴и盢穦︽祇ē礛叫畊耞
畊セЫ瞷臛阶琌Τ闽そ恏虫︗拜肈τи琌や硂兵兵ㄒи粄產ぃЙ浪癚そ恏琌或τ砍そ恏ㄓ方の狝叭癸禜琌或单拜肈
そ恏琌眖き秨﹍祇甶パ程眕竚跋篊篊硋˙簍跑Θ瞷恏瞷そ恏︘めㄤ龟场だ4摸и盢-
璓购だ4摸材摸琌パ﹡┮綝睲╊珹睲╊れ┪糳τ莉逼︘そ材摸琌ビ叫近竒筁糵琩才Μ兵ンよ︘そ摸琌瞷侣Αそ恏紇臫そ︘めτ材摸玥琌莉竚蒥チ虫琌眖硂ㄇ璉春竒笵荡场だ︘そ︘め常琌Μ產畑瘤礛れ跋籔羬﹡チ瞷礚斗钡糵琩沮現┎Τ闽硂よ秸琩れ┪羬﹡チ常妮Μ顶糷
そ恏硂计ㄓ祇揣и┮琌穦τ硂穦琌籔そ﹚キ琌Τ钡闽玒癸︘そ恏︘めㄓ弧癸-
近そ戳丁┮﹡︘侣Α╬加┪琌睲╊ぇ玡れ跋┪琌羬┬跋﹡︘吏挂琌э到礚阶琌瞷恏砞璸┪︓琌10玡恏砞璸盞ゑㄒ恏ず獸加徽狟ね笴砞琁︓跋砞琁单常ゑ╬加﹡︘吏挂眔э到︑礛钡旧璓ネ借莉眔э到礛τи粄程璶琌恏妮キτ碩ぶ穦瞷禬碩沮и癘拘и暗そ恏埃琌︓碩琌パ33%糤︓48%ぇ硄盽–ㄢΩ糤碩常琌20%オそ恏常Θい顶糷︘よ磷螟┮翠⊿Τ▆穦褐┪穦玂毁竒蕾ぃ┪瞷拜肈材у砆金羱︽穨獽琌い顶糷┪顶糷-
琌ア穨"芉"繦獽ア穨︘そ恏琵-
ぃ蔼基現郸┮旧璓╬加拜肈紇臫挡狦穦俱砰眔耕铆﹚ㄏ硂ずㄒ︓┪单竒蕾纯竒瞷癐癶薄猵翠⊿Τ或拜肈┪忌笆ㄆン瞷
瞷現郸琌︙㎡瞷現郸膀セ琌硂妓安琌穝恏τめ產畑–ΘΤ5.5キよμ杠玥琌ぃ蔼籔ゑㄒい︗计15%狦め產畑–Θ眔縩琌7キよμ杠玥ぃ禬禫籔ゑㄒい︗计18.5%иセōΤ把籔┬〆穦浪癚現郸τ璹硂ㄢゑㄒㄤ龟⊿Τ疭厩瞶沮弧︙15%㎝18.5%琌癸︙20%13%┪琌10%玥ぃ癸喋骸捌竝êㄧン10%礚或疭瞶パやㄤ龟15%┪18.5%妓⊿Τ或疭瞶パや洪琌∕郸诀闽耞碞顶糷┮莱耞╯澈妓κだゑ琌続㎡и獺讽场だ┬〆穦〆常粄и矗のㄢκだゑ琌続计琵и-
硂10ㄓ跑て10玡そ籔ゑㄒい︗计4%讽い︗计琌350じ10碞琌и瞷眔计沮τ硂计沮琌参璸矪矗ㄑ籔捌竝计沮Τぶ砛沮参璸矪计Τ闽ゑㄒ琌8%τ捌竝玥弧9%︓龟借よ参璸矪戈琌1,132じτ捌竝玥琌1,200じи安砞ㄢぃ沮参璸矪戈竒筁10丁籔ゑㄒい︗计パ4%︓8%糤τ龟借计玥琌パ350じ︓1,132じど3.2今硂7ㄓ–Ω碩膀セ⊿ΤΩキА碩琌蔼硄等传杠弧程┕10倒и-
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琌и-
も娩璉春戈︓穝戈琌瞷程璹﹚穝恏よ程ル︘め產畑狦–キА丁Τ5.5キよμ杠玥籔ゑㄒい︗计14.5%钡現┎15%狦–キА丁琌7キよμ杠玥籔ゑㄒい︗计17%產︘Τ400龟ノ縩虫︗ㄒ龟悔┮2,200︓2,500じ硂琌瞷猵ぃ筁┬玡纯竒矗の硂妓ご礛琌び獽﹜盢讽9%ゑㄒ矗ど︓15%┪18%ㄤ龟矗ど︓15%┪18%種碞琌弧璶盢瞷せΘ︓иΤ拜肈璶拜┬辨祔穦氮滦и︙璶せΘ︓︙ぃㄢ┪︙ぃ搭㎡┪搭きΘ㎡︙璶赣ㄢκだゑ夹非㎡狦捌竝弧и-
ぃ厩ㄤ龟產琌ぃび厩
и矗ㄑㄇ穝戈琌参璸矪矪肚痷倒и獺и计计τи辨捌竝癘硂ㄇ计祔莱秆睦参璸矪戈陪ボ材﹗﹗ソ翠い︗计琌2窾じ﹡︘ッ┦そ恏虫︗︘め–るキА琌15,600じτ﹡︘ッ┦╬加虫︗计玥23,500じ传杠弧︘╬加產畑–るΜ蔼︘そ恏產畑7,900じи辨捌竝癘硂ㄢ计祔и盢穦秆睦硂ㄢ计Τ或ノ矪そ恏めキА戈15,600じユ1,132じぇ緇14,000じ盢璶ノ︾︽のㄤ甌贾㎝纗籛单絛瞅よ沮参璸矪矪┮矗ㄑ计╬加瞷キА琌4,300じ璝矗の23,500じキАΜ璸衡Ι埃ぇ﹡︘╬加產畑﹟緇18,000じノ︾︽の纗籛单よ眖硂àㄓノ緇窥ㄓゑ耕やぇそ恏︘め薄猵ぃの╬加︘め讽礛產借好и计琌非絋и禗┬硂ㄇ常琌参璸矪矗ㄑ戈︙и-
粄10%琌讽计㎡ㄤ龟硂痷琌璸衡ㄓ┬粄硂琌玛窰计ぃ眔璸衡и璶璸衡倒钮狦盢参璸矪┮矗ㄑ8%糤︓и-
某10%–る盢穦パ1,100じ糤︓1,500じ┬竝糤428じΜτ15,600じㄓ璸衡め临Τ14,000じㄏノ籔8%畉禯琌400じパ14,400じ跑Θ14,000じ狦蹦ノ┬某15%盢穦糤︓2,122じ┬竝Τ900じ碩丁め產畑緇蹿肂琌13,500じ璝蹦ノ18.5%杠玥盢穦糤︓2,600じめ產畑緇13,000じㄑㄏノ传杠弧ノи-
某瞷某10%籔┬矗15%┪18%ゑ耕4產畑–るぶ1,000︓1,400じㄑㄏノㄤ龟琌┬程盽弧и琌俱–ぱ常弧临璶︓せΘ︓τ硂琌癸そ︘め紇臫癸┮孔碔め-
盢穦糤︓传杠弧狦ノ┬某18%ㄓ弧︘τ碔め糤︓產粄硂琌ぃ琌┤㎡
и稱矗材阶肈琌︙и-
粄ぃ莱蔼硄砯勘等產笵硄砯勘等璶琌沮ヒ摸禣基计τ璸衡τヒ摸禣基计玥は琈顶糷禣薄猵狦硂禣计どㄤ龟琌陪ボ禣Τì镑窥ノㄇはぇ玥ノぶ翴璝基ど蔼ㄏ借礚э跑禣ご礛璶ノㄇ窥讽礛ヒ摸禣基计ど┬〆穦羱筍秨や蝴の恨瞶よ秨や穦τどτ蹦ノ硂ヒ摸禣基计璸衡夹非竝よ莱赣ì辣干┮糤秨や安и┮矗い︗计10%碩琵めユぇ膀セご礛镑Τì镑窥ㄑㄏノ杠玥蹦ノヒ摸禣基计把σ膀非ョ镑絋玂–Ωぇめ常蝴Τネ借㎝秨やキи粄ヒ摸禣基计㎝い︗计10%琌瞶
程翴и稱莱琌捌竝ㄤㄧンず矗の璝籔ゑㄒ琌禬25%杠め┬〆穦ビ叫搭τ程蔼搭碩笷ㄤ龟и-
琌ぃ莱赣躬纘搭硂猵瞷璝めビ叫搭琌弧Μ⊿Τ妓糤玱ぃ耞ど┮穦パ程18%19%┪20%ど︓25%τㄏ-
禫ㄓ禫絘τぃ琌禫ㄓ禫碔ΤセΝ戳衡琌ゑ耕肝め搭埃膀セ秨やぇ临Τㄇ緇窥Τ翴稰㎝Τㄇ纗籛蹦ノ┬竝某ゑㄒ杠讽Ыぃ耞糤τ旧璓禫ㄓ禫め璶Μ25%や挡狦ㄏそ恏︘めネ借τи-
粄硂暗猭琌ぃ眔躬纘τ临弧琌┬р翠パき︓瞷硂畉ぃ43ㄓ︘そ恏顶糷蔼基㎝蔼ぇ磷螟┮瘆胊盢ㄓΤ或ㄆ珿紇臫︓み磓磓┪瞷或拜肈杠硂現郸弧琌璶甡ぇ矪
畊セ略朝勉や兵ㄒ
朝胞糭某璓勉畊и羛穦祇ēさぱ边盢穦Τ3︗ㄆ穦碞и-
臛阶某兵ㄒ笆某タτ羛穦玥や朝挪狶某タ琌赣タい璶―そ虫︗い︗计10%τ現┎ヘ玡砏﹚琌ゑ8%ぶ砛┮и粄硂キ竒蔼
и-
︙や朝挪狶某タ㎡讽礛и-
粄ㄤㄆ┮笆某タ俱砰よ琌ぃ筁10%琌羛穦筁碞そ恏い︗计ゑㄒ┮某计
畊︙羛穦某そ恏程蔼笷籔ゑㄒい︗计10%㎡и-
琌Τ瞶沮やτи-
筁10丁猭常琌硂妓毒浪膀某矗の硂κだゑ纯竒4%オ讽и-
竒粄硂计ぃ﹚眔び蔼ㄤ現┎ぃ耞睲╊恏砍穝Α恏㎝坑Α单讽ど碩会糉甡ê琿戳丁и-
矗程蔼キ笷10%讽現┎現郸琌9%τи-
玥某程蔼莱10%ㄓ現┎ぃ耞э跑ㄤ現郸︓ヘ玡8%ぶ砛
ぃぇ玡羛穦纯皐癸現┎环┬郸菠("郸")秈︽Ω拜秸琩眖翠160そ恏い┾23秸琩癸禜程そガい戳厨畊ㄤいず甧ォ籔羛穦粄そ恏程蔼莱笷籔ゑㄒい︗计10%某澸
灿綷拜ヘ玡そ﹡チぇいΤ32%粄瞷┮ユ会稰硂ㄇめ琌ρ產┪ア穨-
產羆7,000じ︓8,000じ癸膀糷カチㄓ弧ㄤキㄓや瞷痷琌讽τ現┎程郸矗そ恏盢ㄓ璶︓15%︓18.5%硂セ琌环环┻瞒-
璽踞
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и耕Ν玡纯碞郸窾﹡チ庢︽﹡チ穦ΤセЫΩ矗の–Ωи琌ノ妓戈τ–讽и郸材せ场だ材琿и常穦稰极琌現┎粄计︘そ﹡チぃ惠璶稧基腊ㄤэ到ネи癸硂琿ゅ痷琌伐ぇは稰и-
秸琩┮眔挡狦タ籔и-
芠诡┮眔が澸ǎ硂芠诡龟琌非絋
畊毒浪膀某纯臮翠┮孔眕竚跋㎝稧单現郸瘤礛硂ㄇず甧иΩ矗のи临璶矗ㄆ龟讽現┎龟琁赣单現郸丁タ琌и-
程砲ぇウи-
秆∕程膀セ﹡︘拜肈硂拜肈и粄硂琌程璶τ硂現郸纯Ν戳砆ㄤ跋办ラ琌厩Θ"畕"瞷獵屡ㄤい珹穝℡ず
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и┮剪眡跋场だ恏常璶睲╊穝恏﹡チ┮琌じ︓じは芠侣跋そ﹡チ惠计κじ传杠弧琌у-
祏戳い┮环环蔼俱穦硄等
㈱フ弧璝現┎現郸琌璶酚臮膀糷カチ現┎龟Τゲ璶浪癚琌璉瞒セō現郸琌現┎⊿Τ硂贺稰谋郸いㄤ篈τи-
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и-
羛穦粄и-
芠诡┮眔膀糷薄猵籔現┎┮弧琌ㄢㄆ珿さ㎝程纯计Ω皐癸そ﹡チ芠薄猵琌現┎┮瓃秈︽秸琩琌秸琩挡狦玱籔現┎┮弧ぃ妓
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常ボ穦跌硂╯羛穦ゴ衡ゼㄓ碞赣32%癸や瞷そ恏稰螟め秈˙蛤秈╯穦るр硂ず甧ユぉ疭跋現┎
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羱琌糤砛-
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秸琩┮眔场だそ﹡チ常1窾じオτ硂琌產Μ︓耕砲癸ユΤ螟︘めㄤΤ7,000じ︓8,000じ產羆耕侯穿肂临璶︙穦瞷硂薄猵㎡パ竒蕾琜篶锣旧璓硂竤ゅてキ耕м砃耕筁计戈–猵禫璝-
璶т耕蔼诀穦琌だ稬
и-
癸κ乃禥薄猵τи-
祇瞷-
ぃ钩現┎┮︳璸莱肝礚斗現┎酚臮┪ユ耕獽﹜и粄硂薄猵さぱ计︗ㄆ┮笆某某兵ㄒ┪タよ常琌ぃ筁パ羛穦Τ闽猔硂拜肈τи-
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現┎и-
村弧ボ"朝胞糭硂琌快ぃ"иぃフ︙穦快ぃㄆ龟筁現┎ぃ耞糤常ぃΘ拜肈瞶莱龟ㄆ―琌и籔ㄤㄆ祇ēず甧Аボ︓さぱゎи-
膀糷カチご斗現┎稧基現郸腊-
寸筁螟闽狦現┎粄и-
種ǎ杠獽莱秨篈癸и-
硂ㄇタ┪兵ㄒ
畊現┎竒盽и-
ボ-
Μぃìや蝴玂緄禣ノ莲籯60货じ眀ヘ絋龟琌現┎狦璶ㄇ膀糷カチ筁眔э到ネ獽莱т快猭ㄒヘ玡そΤ坝初氨ó初单硂ㄇ砞琁琌パΤ恏﹡チ臮竒犁現┎玱⊿Τр硂ㄇ砞琁籔恏ㄖ璸衡狦р硂ㄇΤ闽刁カ坝初㎝氨ó初单Μ禣硈癬璸衡и粄琌⊿Τ拜肈琌現┎玱ぃ種
и稱禗︗ㄆ瘤礛и弧筁计Ω程羛穦纯碞┬拜肈琌и-
程螟玡┕㎝瞏砐拜τ祔и-
盢穦穝℡σ诡㎝瞏硂ㄢよΤ闽璽砫и-
砐拜戳丁ボ"朝胞糭и-
竒喷琌ㄓ︑翠"讽и蛤и-
瞶ㄆ綠模磁某㎝朝篴篱某А穘繷篷㎎-
ちづラ翠ㄓи-
祇瞷-
琌厩策翠笲⊿Τ蛤繦翠弘洪ㄒ琌"チセ"碞琌璝恏ぃìや恨瞶禣ノ現┎獽穦穿もタ祇そ妓程ぃ莱璸购场だやΤ闽砏购场獽倒ぉㄢ遏睫ψ (矗ㄑ挤蹿)秆∕ㄤろ蹿拜肈
琂礛現┎癸祇そ蹦ノ現郸︙そ恏よ玱快ぃ㎡琌妓暗㎡碞琌ぃìやㄤ秨や現┎獽р坝初刁カ㎝氨ó初单砞琁挤ㄑ恏蝴ぇノ讽現┎眖扳そ┮眔Μぇい┾46%蝴膀и粄硂琌獶盽現郸瞏妓璝Μぃì現┎倒ぉ计畒┬碞钩祇そ薄猵妓ㄆ龟и粄翠Τㄥ絛現┎ぃ莱纞и-
ぃ莱蛤﹡︘╬加﹡チボそ龟и癸伐は稰現┎珼挤╬加﹡チは癸そ﹡チ玱⊿Τ╯そ﹡チ┮癸螟⊿Τ癸и矗拜肈σ納
︙–讽┬竝矗﹡チ常竤薄撮╈╧盿玡┕┬竝ボ㎡и粄現┎莱赣癸╯╯澈そ恏瞷或拜肈ぃ莱め⊿Τ螟-
镑莱礛砞猭眏-
ユ蔼㈱フ弧и-
蛤疭跋赋地ネの璽砫盢ㄓΤ闽╯辩璣ネボ┬タ浇催璝硈-
催ぃ玂臔﹛チは璝硈膀セ﹡︘惠―ぃ秆∕獽穦穦盿ㄓ笆历
иぃ種玡顶琿Τㄇも琿癸и-
Τ闽﹛и玱稰ㄤい┮盿ㄓ獺琌璝さぱ現┎ご磅癵ぃ粇粄めì莱蔼-
祇笷粄êㄇ︘そタ管翠戈方杠и獺程ゲ穦旧璓穦斗基
畊и竒矗の羛穦や朝挪狶某┮矗10%甅瞶├のи-
程┮ЧΘΤ闽そ┬現郸╯い戳厨и-
盢穦蛤秈ヘ玡ネご礛Τ螟32%そ︘めи-
盢穦碞拜肈膥尿蛤秈ぃ筁碞さぱ臛阶硂兜某兵ㄒτēи-
盢穦や朝挪狶某タ
谅谅
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и粄Τ闽┬拜肈莱赣眖俱砰ㄓ弧τぃ琌虫眖そ┬拜肈ㄓи-
翠瞷癸琌俱砰┬拜肈и-
纯ミ猭ЫΩ臛阶硂拜肈パ翠ㄑ莱ぃì膀ぃ镑τΘ翠┬祏の┬基筁蔼单拜肈ㄏ琌そよョゼ笷Τ惠璶カチ惠―近そ祅癘Τ10窾タ单"加"┮翠﹚琌Τ┬拜肈
и稱莱朝胞糭某種ǎ癘拘礢穝纯竒矗の膀糷そチチネΤ⊿Τ秈˙拜肈и稱狦谋眔-
ネ⊿Τ秈˙硂ゼゲ琌タ絋猭┮孔膀糷カチㄤ龟莱赣珹︘╬加膀糷カチ翠膀糷ぃ虫ゎ琌︘そㄤ龟临Τ︘ㄒ泞单兵ン畉﹡︘吏挂ぇいи-
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癬ゑ耕ΤㄇΜ禬肂τぃそ呼璽踞ゑそ﹡チ蔼-
璶ノぇい耕ゑㄒㄓユ沮秸琩┮眔-
璶笆ノ27%Μㄓやи钮筁Τㄇ璶ノ蔼笷40%Μㄓユ┮и粄硂拜肈莱赣眖俱穦ㄓゑ耕讽礛Τㄇ某穦弧硂琌現┎蔼基現郸┪琌и┮矗の膀ぃ镑单拜肈旧璓硂妓蔼耕ぃ单そ﹡チ璶倒ㄇ朝胞糭某矗の㎝瞏薄猵и-
產常笵い瓣穦籔翠穦Чぃ矪瞶┬拜肈よ猭︑礛籔翠ぃи-
璶い瓣嘲よチゑ耕翠讽礛ぃ镑や硂或蔼讽現┎︑礛璶ノ甅現郸腊-
碞琌矗ㄑㄇ稧基┬
︓穝℡狦и-
璶穝℡厩策и-
璶╯讽祙穝℡祙瞯ぃ虫ゎゑ翠蔼τ–璶煤ユ眏┦いァそ縩硂翴琌и-
チㄆ┮は癸ぃ岿穝℡いァそ縩琌琵チㄓ潦禦そ狦┬よи-
琌弧-
Τ︘Τ局Τ︑竚﹡┮-
ョΤ拜肈琌翠ゼゲ稱猭ゼゲ稱穝℡﹡︘程模砐翠翠Τㄇ弧狦模暗翠獽ㄏ穦硂或﹚┪琌ㄏ﹡︘吏挂硂或и獺畒ㄆゼゲ種硂妓種ǎи-
Τи-
ネよΑτи-
辨膥尿и-
ネよΑ璶厩策竒喷临璶把σ吏挂Θ狦チ羛稱╯┬拜肈и辨ぃ虫ゎい瓣┪穝℡璶把σ﹁よ瓣產竒喷さぱ畒ㄓ︑﹁よぃ笵Τ⊿Τ癘初翠そ祇甶︓ささらи粄﹚琌兜Θ碞瓣瓣產常稱猭翠
и-
Τカチ﹡︘現┎戈┬讽礛ぃ琌常︘そ虫︗Τㄇ琌﹡Τㄤ穨瞷そ借ぃ耞矗蔼ㄓそ璸购琌矗ㄑ膀セ﹡┮畉ぃ琌聪ōよ瞷Τ縒ミ虫︗Τ钡╬加縱借τ丁ゑ玡瘤礛現┎┬〆穦弧–夹非5キよμ︓7キよμㄤ龟Τㄇ︘め產计┮﹡︘耕ㄇ虫︗–┮丁蔼笷9キよμ癸硂ㄇ╬加めㄓ弧弧琌┮и粄そ拜肈ぃ虫ゎ璶そ莱τ璶︘め璽踞и┯粄硂翴琌ぃ厩讽Ы弧Τㄇ某矗某10%琌ぃ厩иョ妓粄┬〆穦15%琌ぃ厩ぃ筁沮и┮ê15%籔ゑㄒい︗计琌膀ゑ耕ㄓ∕﹚琌籔╬加め┮璶の籔瓣┮璶ゑ耕眖τ璸衡硂┮孔瞶璽踞
パ┬〆穦︓さゼр矗ど︓15%硂ゑㄒ瞷琌9%Τㄇ某碞弧琂礛ごゼ笷赣キぃ10%и粄┪砛硂妓弧┬〆穦┕笲陪琌辨倒ぃ琌璙ㄨ禜瘤礛璹﹚ぃ琌р程だ睝常璶琌璶ぃ璶τ盢秸┪琌㎝硄等本恥㎡и-
︑パ囊琌礚猭钡硂翴璶琌и-
粄ヴ︙狦璶钡穦戈碞ゲ﹚璶Τ痷タ惠璶狦镑璽踞ㄇ獽莱赣ㄇ┮и-
Τ碔め現郸ㄤ龟┮孔碔め現郸琌êㄇ竒局Τ穨┪戈玻笷琘キめ莱赣カ︑パ囊琌ミ猭Ыず斑や碔め現郸現囊ㄤ現囊Аボは癸и粄硂琌だそキ狦︑Τ窥或临璶穦戈㎡硂ぃ琌и-
い瓣┦и-
常琌稱"︑綼︑"ぃ稱盽璶現┎戈и獺硂タ琌翠Θ膀娄翠穦Θτ硂琌籔﹁よ穦薄猵菠Τぃ
よタи纯竒弧筁そ借ぃ耞矗蔼丁禫ㄓ禫Τ圭腀翴窥τ匡拒耕虫︗﹡︘狦и-
踞み﹡チぃノ硂或ゑㄒやτ璶―┬〆穦浪癚琌惠璶砍硂或そ虫︗琵﹡チ匡拒縩耕灿翴虫︗┪琌眎ㄏ穝そ虫︗ぃ斗璶砍眔硂或杠и︑琌獶盽は癸и粄и-
┮砍加ぃ琌5┪10ヘ夹и琌辨êㄇめ﹡10┪20ぇご礛Τ﹡︘吏挂τ-
妓骸種ê吏挂и-
琌ぃ盢基碞砯めぶㄇτи-
玥砍灿翴虫︗倒-
讽礛狦Τ惠璶戈и-
ぃ琌璶砍ㄇ花地加倒-
﹡︘硂琌и-
ゼ笷τぃ莱赣笷顶琿┮硂琌σ納
畊程и辨碞そ硂拜肈矗计翴種ǎ材璶秆∕翠┬拜肈碞璶痷痷タタ辅龟щ戈膀㎝ㄑ莱硂ぃ虫ゎ磃のそ﹡チτ╬加﹡チ妓磃ㄤΩи-
妒玃┬〆穦㎝現┎琿会丁辨瞶基窥辅龟扳そτи-
矗某琌縱Θセ扳そ扳基硂妓ら獽礚斗–碞碩τ╉狦局Τ︑﹡┮︑獽Τ砫ヴや恨瞶禣㎝蝴禣ノ┮﹡︘虫︗临跑Θ︑戈玻らΜ糤吏挂э到ョ潦禦╬加镑潦禦ㄇ丁㎝借耕加︑︘τ乃ㄤそ虫︗倒ㄤΤ惠璶︘そ耴挡琸そ琌そ┊┪祙戈加﹚璶倒ぉΤ惠璶﹡︘τ临璶瞶戈-
朝挪狶某璓勉畊翠そ犁┬砞き秨﹍τ翠┬〆穦"┬〆穦"玥Θミ讽砍そヘだ睲捶碞琌璶膀糷カチ秆∕﹡︘拜肈搭淮-
︘秨やのэ到-
ネ借堡琌︑┬〆穦Θミㄓ︓┬祇甶よи-
稰谋琌讽ЫΤ種ノ現郸ㄓ胓籃ネ眔э到膀糷カチ程陪ㄒ碞琌碔め現郸の┬さ祇环┬郸菠蝶某吭高ゅン"郸吭高ゅン"赣ゅン某10ず盢そ碩矗ど︓籔ゑㄒい︗计15%︓18.5%Τ闽讽Ы嘿羘そ莱赣琌仓秈Τカチ莱赣ユㄇΤ闽硂翴и-
﹚祘琌種琌粄讽Ы龟琁よ猭Τㄇ拜肈
畊и種現┎弧猭そ琌莱赣籔﹡チ┯踞本恥ぃ筁и-
粄硂恥ゲ斗本カチ┯踞キのは琈﹡︘虫︗瞶τぃ琌ǎカチΜ祔Τэ到┬〆穦碞璶硄筁盢-
Μ"爱瞓"ぃ莱赣镑┬〆穦盿ㄓぶΜヘ夹
畊и-
チ羛眏疨は癸郸吭高ゅン某琌10ず盢そ矗蔼︓籔ゑㄒい︗计15%︓18.5%硂翴︓硈┬〆穦ョ程庢︽穦某畊眏疨は癸и-
ョ眏疨ぃ骸現┎盢そ籔╬加ゑ耕
╬加禥琌或旧璓㎡硂Ч琌翠┎蔼基現郸┮硑Θτパ场だカチА礚璽踞╬翠┎斗璶-
矗ㄑそ犁┬パヘ玡そ虫︗腨祏近そ祅癘窾產畑斗璶ㄤΘ┪ㄓや產畑近そ肂14,700じ璸衡狦7,000じ玥––る獶︘秨や琌ぃì2,000じ翠┎現郸┪龟悔ぃ⊿Τ-
矗ㄑヴ︙穿はτ╬加そゑ耕夹非и-
粄硂琌伐ぃ瞶
チ羛粄そ﹡チい︗计キАゑㄒぃ莱蔼10%┬竝捌竝喋骸ネら硄筁肚碈瞨疨┽阑セЫ4︗ㄆ癸そ碩璹ㄨ種пΡ某某и-
癸稰だ框狙и-
辨硂ㄇ琌喋骸ネ種ǎ
程и-
稰ぃ骸琌у蝶и-
矗籔ゑㄒい︗计ぃ莱蔼10%硂琌"繦種璹﹚κだゑ""兵ㄒ⊿Τ﹚︙络﹚籔ゑㄒい︗计"畊籔ゑㄒい︗计ㄓ络﹚そ荡癸ぃ琌パи︑┮祇τ琌現┎ㄓ┮猽ノ非玥┮络﹚ヘ玡程璶だ琌и┮矗κだゑ籔現┎ヘ夹κだゑぃτ兵ㄒ〆穦籔現┎庢︽穦某纯Ω璶―┬┪┬竝秆睦璸衡のゑㄒよ祘Α讽Ы⊿Τ矗ㄑ冈灿戈礚匡拒薄猵某┮笆某タ常┮孔籔ゑㄒい︗计璸衡よ猭琌パ┬〆穦┮络﹚и粄喋骸捌竝癸某у蝶琌ぃそキ
︓盢籔ゑㄒい︗计﹚10%ョ荡癸ぃ琌и-
某繦種络﹚瞷そ產畑い︗计13,000じ璸衡キА莱ぃ穦1,300じ硂计и粄琌荡癸タ絋毒浪膀某冈灿ノ︑よ猭璸衡╬加のそ加︘め產畑Μ猵㎝ネ猵
畊ヘ玡そキА蝴籔ゑㄒい︗计8%︓9%计Ω秸俱い碩ぃ蔼硄等瞯场だそ摸碩︓蔼仓縩竡戈糤繦侣恏璸购ЧΘの秖穝恏辅Θㄏ蝴籔瞷璝糤碩︳璸璶箂箂せそ籔い︗计ゑㄒ穦秈˙矗蔼и-
粄瞷顶琿龟Τゲ璶碞籔ゑㄒい︗计璹﹚竒碩糤τ叉瞒﹡チ璽踞
ㄆ龟兵ㄒ〆穦ョΩ璶―翠┎秆睦ㄤ某15%㎝18.5%璸衡膀娄翠┎礚猭秆睦狦┬竝瞷у蝶某┮矗κだ瞯琌繦種璹﹚и稱и-
產常琌き˙κ˙τ
翠┎程ボ狦某硄筁硂兵ㄒそ碩杠盢穦ㄏ┬〆穦ゼㄓ10Μ搭ぶ300货じ紇臫秖畊и粄ヘ玡穦癸そ虫︗惠―だち15窾產畑タ近そ翠┎弧硂礷杠и粄ぶΤㄇ纞Θだ翠┎羘羘弧そ瞷í琌и-
竒璸衡祇瞷龟悔琌计笴栏沮︓箇衡そ︘眀ヘぃ岿琌Τ17.8货じí獶︘碞Τ24.4货じ緇狦酚︓箇衡羆緇琌Τ58货じ
畊琂礛そ琌ㄣ戈┦┬┬〆穦┮Μ碞ゲ斗琌﹡チ┯踞τ┬〆穦Μㄓ方の竒禣︑礛ぃㄌ綼そτゲ斗璶ㄓ︑坝穨虫︗㎝扳﹡︓┬〆穦┮孔胑íи粄祘琌パ┬〆穦恨瞶ぃ到のΘセ痲北ゑ耕畉┮璓戳龟琁┬恨瞶╬犁て恏ㄒ碞陪は琈┬〆穦蝴恨瞶よ絋龟ΤΤэ到よ
畊и程辨莱翠┎ㄇ﹛祇ē-
ボㄏさぱセЫ硄筁ヴ︙︗某タ程ネら戳∕﹚舦┬︓┬矗璹и讽礛種翠┎Τ硂舦и谋眔狦翠┎痷暗陪Ω硑Θ翠┎籔ミ猭诀闽エ╉и辨┬镑硂ΩタΜ種ǎそ璹甅▆現郸
畊セ略朝勉や兵ㄒ
郭Θ某璓勉畊и琌兵ㄒ〆穦Θぇ纯竒矗兵╬兵ㄒぃ筁и程∕﹚篗琌и㎝チ常辨镑硄筁琂才そ﹡チ舦痲才穦俱砰痲诀
и-
璶フそ疭琌そ穦琌獶盽璶癸穦俱砰ㄓ弧琌Τ獶盽タ紇臫ノ翠Τ﹡︘そ┮そ穦铆﹚ノ琌獶盽琵翠镑Τ铆﹚穦翠坝穨兜盡穨︓ㄤ︽穨常镑硂铆﹚穦吏挂癪膍㎝щ戈ㄏ穦ぃ耞Θ硂铆﹚穦琌眖︙τㄓ碞琌ㄓ︑そ﹡チ稰瞷﹡︘そ常琌穦程膀糷讽礛ㄤいΤ场だ砆┬竝﹚碔め场だ常琌膀糷
翠穦褐ぃи-
程穦褐璶琌洛励㎝9禣毙▅のΤ钡毙▅诀穦τ材兜程璶褐獽琌そそ琵и-
膀糷カチ镑現郸Τㄓ催ㄏ-
ぃ局Τ┮﹡︘虫︗硂ㄓ催玱倒ぉ-
稰放穢產ㄏ-
礚臮ぇ紐τ穦膥尿癪膍ㄤ秖礚阶琌︙ǒ璚璶產-
ご礛Τ礚臮ぇ紐ㄓ催-
癪膍︑秖腊翠膥尿祇甶τ硂琌璶┮現┎莱赣堡硂よ穦秖и-
常璶瞶㎝稧現郸硂ぃ琌そキ籔拜肈τ琌硂癸翠琌璶
иぃ稱狡毒浪膀某┮矗帮计и稱莱現┎兵ㄒ〆穦ずは癸и-
笆某硂兵ㄒの3︗某タ瞶パ讽Ы程璶瞶沮琌琌瞶拜肈莱赣璽踞ㄓ∕﹚ぃゲ瞶穦ㄤ斗璸衡璽踞硂璽踞琌︙璸衡ㄓ㎡碞琌籔い︗计ゑㄒ莱赣璹瞶κだゑτ現┎粄15%琌程瞶ゑㄒ琵и-
筁计Τ闽ゑㄒパ程4%糤︓瞷8%τ硂い︗计8%ゑㄒㄤ龟竒ㄏカチ璚硈ぱそ﹡チ莱硂计癸-
ㄓ弧竒琌蔼ユぇ緇窥ぃì镑ㄏノㄤ龟現┎┮﹚15%常琌Τ繦種┦硂琌睲贰パ讽Ы筁魁琌8%┮и-
獽矗10%硂计琌Τ繦種┦琌硂琌瞶繦種┦琌蛤沮讽Ы计τ璹﹚瞶キ硂琌材翴
現┎材瞶パ琌и-
硂兜兵ㄒ穦禣穦戈方穦戈êㄇそ﹡チτ硂ㄇ戈方琌ぃ莱赣ノㄓ戈êㄇ礚斗戈琌現┎Τㄤ現郸秆∕硂拜肈ㄒ蛮現郸㎝戈玻糵琩現郸单竒ì癸êㄇ讽Ы粄ぃ斗戈琁︽そキ戈方だ皌現郸礛τи-
さぱ┮臛阶琌炊硄︘め┮讽Ы硂翴瞶パ琌獶盽ぇ畓
︓材翴現┎弧磅︽穦Τ螟程临癸肚碈弧璝硄筁辩模┚某兵ㄒ獽穦Τ陈沸琌ぃ磅︽τぃ磅︽獽弧璶盢ネ戳礚戳┿碞单⊿Τ硂兵猭ㄒㄤ龟и-
σ納筁硂薄猵┮穦笆某タ辨р兵ㄒタ︓︽眔硄Ч磅︽ㄤい珹蹦ノ瞷┬竝璸衡のい︗计よ猭琌蹦ノ讽Ы砮暗猭ㄒ讽Ы粄┾琩琌ぃノ癸场そ﹡チ秈︽斗┾妓獽∕﹚Τ闽计┮и-
粄ノ硂よ猭硂獽琌и-
ミ猭種瓜и-
癚阶琌弧硂獽琌и-
ミ猭種瓜
現┎┮ノ材瞶パ碞琌ㄤいΤ猭好拜矗4翴猭好拜и稱硂虏虫硋翴阑瘆êㄇ好拜材翴琌兵ㄒ⊿Τ睲贰弧︙才猭ㄒ砏﹚ㄒ硄等の籔ゑㄒい︗计﹚竡单и-
糶猭琌弧パ┬〆穦沮ㄤ┮眔计沮∕﹚琌"determined by the authority"硂ㄤ龟竒秆∕ê┮孔拜肈材翴琌讽Ыи-
某笻は┬兵ㄒ材4(4)兵赣兵ゅ弧┬〆穦現郸斗絋玂眖恏┮仓衡莉眔Μì莱恏竒盽秨や種琌砏﹚┬〆穦﹚璶Μやキ颗のぃи-
某τぃ寂や硂兵ゅタи-
┬〆穦仓縩Μゲ斗镑莱やτ┮Μ琌场恏Μ沮赣兵兵ㄒ睦竡场だ┬〆穦局Τ场恏虫︗珹坝穨虫︗㎝﹡虫︗单τ┮孔戈玻仓縩Μ珹硂ちΜㄓ方ㄏи-
さぱ┮臛阶虫︗Μ痷瞷íЧぃ穦紇臫┬〆穦场Μ┬〆穦セō┯粄Τ獶盽緇τ硂緇计ヘ產Τ矗の
讽Ы┮材翴好拜琌┬兵ㄒ材8兵甭舦┬〆穦盢帽璹よΑ倒硂妓杠瞷и-
某穦笻は闽玒硂翴甧は婚沮赣兵ㄒ材16兵∕﹚舦妮┬〆穦┮Τセ琌パ┬〆穦∕﹚ち產粄﹡チ穦珼驹讽Ы┮﹚㎡-
┪砛穦叫腀よΑボぃ骸﹚ぃ穦猭畑珼驹┬〆穦璹﹚舦-
ぃ穦禣畍禣暗硂ㄇㄆ┮硂翴琌獶盽硁畓礚
讽Ы程翴碞琌и-
某穦紇臫┬〆穦崩︽ㄤ現郸ㄒ蛮現郸┪カ現郸单よ硂翴и-
糵某兵ㄒ竒弧睲贰и-
ミ猭種瓜ぃ琌璶紇臫ヴ︙ㄤ瞷︽現郸и-
琌矪瞶Τ闽络﹚拜肈ぃ琌辨紇臫闽蛮現郸┪戈玻糵琩現郸Τ闽硂4翴猭珼驹и-
ㄤ龟兵ㄒ〆穦ず莱礛τ讽Ы瞷村弧ず矗侣ㄆ痷琌獶盽""┮иぃ菇ㄤ沸ノ计だ牧ㄓ硋翴阑瘆
и琌干硂碭翴種ǎ谅谅畊
┬璓勉畊ヴ︙猭ㄒ﹚癸穦常玻ネ瞏环紇臫┮и-
ゲ斗瞏剪納╯Τ闽兵ゅ琌そキ琌の琌︽堡辩模┚某┮笆某1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒのパㄤ3︗某┮笆某タ常陪笻璉そキ㎝瞶だ皌穦戈方玥盿ㄓ疉の猭㎝癩現よ璽紇臫兵ㄒ〆穦秈︽糵某祇瞷闽龄┦拜肈ご冈灿癚阶㎝秆∕琌Τ闽某ご礛绊р兵ㄒさぱミ猭Ы穦某畊窖∕現┎眏疨ぃ骸種硂暗猭τиョ辨︗某щ布镑璽癬ミ猭莱Τ砫ヴ糵稸σ納兵ㄒそキ┦㎝獺┦窾ぃ璶瞯硄筁兵穦盿ㄓ腨狦猭ㄒ
現┎ミ初琌だ睲捶и-
琌膀そキ玥の磅︽よσ納腨タは癸兵ㄒ㎝┮Τタиゲ斗兵ㄒ㎝タ某瞶├琌デ3膀セ岿粇材岿粇琌某糤碩ぃ眔蔼硄等硂セ琌瞶ぃΤ3翴
︘め璽踞琌籔-
セō產畑Τ闽τぃ琌籔硄等本恥硂琌竒蕾厩常睲贰笵琌莱Τ盽醚
ㄤΩ某硄等瞯は琈そ︘め璽踞┮某猭ㄒ盢㎝硄等瞯本恥琌蔼硄等戳糤碩ゼゲ穦癸糤τ穦琌硄等瞯狦┬〆穦"┬〆穦"琌酚某┮矗某弘ㄓ秸俱杠碞琌盢糤碩籔硄等瞯霍硂妓暗琌穦癸そ︘めだぃ㎡и璶眏秸硂琌某┮矗某弘
程琌狦ミ猭よΑㄓ砏﹚┬〆穦ゲ斗蹦ノ硄等络璹斑夹非┬〆穦碞ぃ镑σ納ㄤ琌弧ぃσ納恏翴加闹┪砞琁单ㄓ秸俱恏糤碩硂贺ヘノ硄等ㄓ矪瞶糤碩も猭癸︘めㄓ弧ㄤ龟琌伐ぃそキ
材岿粇琌糤碩ㄏ籔ゑㄒい︗计ぃ禬筁10%某蹦ノκだゑ琌硂籔瞷ゑㄒ钡陪靡硂κだ瞯琌繦種璹﹚ぃ琌莱êㄇ痷タ惠璶戈產畑τ璸衡ㄓ┬〆穦玡络﹚籔ゑㄒい︗计15%┪18.5%ぇ琌讽そ︘め籔ゑㄒい︗计13%沮把σ讽╬加﹡︘產畑秨や家Ατ讽產畑﹡︘秨や羆秨やだぇ琌ささら╬加﹡︘產畑﹡︘秨や竒糤︓羆秨や37%┪40%︙某さぱ璶は盢そ︓籔ゑㄒい︗计10%㎡и-
セ碞ぃフ︙璶硂妓暗
材岿粇琌某糤碩ぃ眔蔼硄等瞯礛–搭2%琌ㄢ搭4%狦–3璸衡碞璶搭6%硂妓某ㄤ龟琌睝礚呸胯セ琌⊿Τ瞶沮や
Τ某某–3浪癚Ω癸瞷–ㄢ浪癚Ω現郸赣某癸そめの┬〆穦ㄢ常琌⊿Τ或疭矪τ琌ぃゲ璶瞶パぇ琌瞷–ㄢ秸俱Ω現郸崩︽竒Τそ︘め常竒策篋ョ钡硂逼ㄤΩ狦э–3秸俱Ω產稱τ–Ω仓縩糤碩﹚穦ゑ耕–ㄢΩ糤碩蔼硂盢穦场だ︘め続莱耕螟セ琌ゑ耕瞷秸俱薄猵︘め稰
埃и碞兵ㄒ㎝タ┮侯矗贺拜肈の玥ぃよぇㄤ龟龟悔磅︽兵ㄒ㎝タ某琌穦ま癬腨螟㎝玻ネぃ▆狦材碞琌癩現よ┬〆穦︘加笲眀ヘ琌縒ミ璸衡ㄓ常瞷íㄏ沮瞷︽浪癚诀ㄓ弧┬〆穦箇戳せ︓箂箂硂5ぇずí羆肂盢穦60货じ狦糤碩ぃ蔼硄等︓硄等–搭2%┪琌繦種砏﹚籔ゑㄒい︗计10%硂3贺暗猭常穦ㄏ┬〆穦Μ籜穕アτ挪┬〆穦そ砍㎝蝴よ秨やАぃ耞糤拜肈е獽穦瞷┬〆穦盢ぃ镑蝴瞷Τ恨瞶㎝狝叭キ筃阶э到狝叭┪骸ì︘めぃ耞矗贺璶―и獺Τㄇ某常穦癘眔硂弧杠碞琌"琂璶皑ㄠ璶皑ㄠぃ"и獺チ囊Τ︗某常Τ矗のτ程计ぱ穦某ョΤ某ノ筁硂弧杠
ㄤΩ笲よ琌穦瞷螟某琌某碞籔ゑㄒい︗计璹ミ猭﹚琌玱⊿Τ猭兵ゅ睲贰﹚妓ㄓ骸ì硂猭﹚璶―и獺產常琌みΤ计狦и-
璶非絋蝶﹚–そ產畑Μ盢穦琌だ螟埃獶┬〆穦笆ノ秖戈方癸︘め秈︽瞏秸琩临璶璶―–產畑–程ぶ璶3Ω┬〆穦ビ厨非絋戈Θ︙и璶弧–璶3Ω㎡┬〆穦恨瞶瞷66窾そ虫︗琌–ㄢだ7舱恏ㄓ秈︽キА–ㄢ璸衡–妓弧Τ3Ω┪4Ω–Ω璶璸衡硂ゑ瞯и-
–Ω常璶暗硂妓秸琩碞琌弧︘恏︘め–ㄢ碞璶タΑ秸琩7Ω戈┪–程ぶ秸琩3Ω狦硂妓杠и稱叫拜︗某粄そ︘め琌穦舧-
某┪琌舧-
┬〆穦硂妓暗㎡硂琌ぃゲ璶耑チぇ庢㎡и獺某尺舧酵の耑チ拜肈琌某瞷某碞痷タ琌穦耑チ┪砛某種ぃ琌硂妓弧龟安盢ㄓ┬〆穦痷璶硂妓︽τま璓羘更笵ぇさぱ畒某狦琌や硂兵ㄒ┪ㄤタ杠穦ㄓōτ踞癬硂砫ヴそ恏めボ硂琌︗┮硄筁猭ㄒτ硑Θ┬〆穦璶竒盽逮耑-
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Μ戈㎡
畊材よ琌猭à拜肈兵ㄒ㎝タ琌穦璴ネゑ耕甧ま癬猭祘┪猭禗砠拜肈и硂妓弧琌Τ3材琌讽籔ゑㄒい︗计Θ┬〆穦﹚璶宽猭﹚砏τ猭ㄒセō⊿Τ睲贰哪睦┬〆穦莱妓才赣砏杠碞﹚穦玻ネ絢よê妓秆∕㎡琌穦硑Θ╉㎡琌穦硑Θ禗砠㎡
材某璶―把酚硄等瞯┪籔ゑㄒい︗计ㄓ糤碩琌玱⊿Τ璹┬兵ㄒ材4(4)兵τ赣兵ゅ琌砏﹚┬〆穦現郸ゲ斗絋玂眖恏┮仓衡莉眔Μì莱恏竒盽秨やΤ某粄硂琌珹┮Τ坝穨笲┪扳芥﹡よΜΤ闽硂よ猭﹚穦Τぃ猭芠翴и-
粄狦┬兵ㄒ材4兵籔盢ㄓ竒璹材16兵弘瞷ぃ璓㎝ぃ秸﹚穦ㄏ┬〆穦稰礚┮続眖
材瞶パ碞琌┬〆穦┮崩︽碔め現郸ヘ琌璶ㄏそ戈方だ皌そキ㎝瞶τ硂現郸竒龟︽ョ竒穦約┮钡㎝粄瞷某┮矗糤碩猭兵ゅパろ紆┦盢ㄓ﹚穦腨紇臫碔め現郸磅︽
иョ稱莱朝胞糭某㎝琘ㄇ某┮矗のそ砲絘め拜肈狦и-
璶痷タ秆∕-
挂碞莱赣眖┬〆穦穿璸购も沮硂璸购才戈產畑ビ叫搭τ┮搭琌讽肂腊-
ぃぶよ猭玥琌眖穦褐竝┮崩︽侯穿もτぃ莱赣眖俱砰笲㎝キよㄓも
畊羆挡ㄓ弧兵ㄒ㎝タАΤ笻そキ玥ョ穕甡そ渤痲琂糤睰癸そ︘め逮耑癸┬〆穦盿ㄓ贺贺螟㎝留紐и稱弧Ωㄆ龟兵ㄒ〆穦糵某ごゼЧΘΤ闽拜肈セゼ纯眔だσ納㎝秆∕某玱∕﹚ぃ秨穦讽竒ЧΘи癸硂暗猭稰だ框狙┮и赖叫︗某は癸и狡иは癸兵ㄒ㎝Τ闽タ
谅谅畊
辩模┚某璓勉畊и璶6︗だ碞硂兜兵ㄒ祇ē某璓谅
兵ㄒ〆穦秈︽糵某и︑稰だ佩砓稱ぃи矗硂兵兵ㄒぇ穦Τ3︗ㄆだ矗ぃタи癬临-
琌は癸иぃ琌ㄓ產常绰よ碞琌妓э到瞷兵ㄒㄏぇЧ到Ч俱и辨┬ぃ現囊㎝現刮ぃ耞и兵ㄒひ荷秖盢ぇэ到硂タ陪ボ┬⊿Τ稱ヘ玡俱ぃЧ到璝獶獽ぃ穦Τぃ現囊矗種ǎ硂琌材翴⊿Τは拜肈
材弧兵ㄒ〆穦⊿Τ膥尿秨穦ㄤ龟и稱禗ㄆ兵ㄒ〆穦穦某畊Ч⊿Τ矗ㄑ穝戈倒и-
癚阶弧ㄓ弧琌ê甅タ┬祇ē妓⊿Τ钮郭Θ某毒浪膀某ッ笷某の朝挪狶某芠翴Ч⊿Τ钮碞ㄆ秨穦⊿Τ钮и-
種ǎ妓и-
粄︙临璶秨穦㎡琂礛讽Ыぃ腀钮и-
杠琌ぃ耞狡┮弧筁杠и-
獽ぃ稱禣そ┊ぃ稱膥尿禣そ叭丁㎝弘┮粄秨穦⊿Τ種ぃ筁и-
弧ぃ秨穦獶и-
┶荡秨穦и-
琌庢︽Ω穦某弧ぃ秨穦辨┬镑フ硂翴
Τンㄆ薄ㄏи稰だ框狙碞琌┬せら穝籇そガい弧杠狦產琌ㄆ阶ㄆ痷痷タタ癚阶硂兵ㄒ琌︽杠и谋眔⊿Τ┮孔堡┬弧杠ㄏ稰紐納钩翠瞷е璶秈堵穞妓︙и硂妓弧㎡硂琌┬弧狦硂兜兵ㄒ莉眔硄筁獽穦沽刚笲ノ舦磅︽瞷螟獽盢猭ㄒネら戳崩筐陪硂琌辨硄筁羬ミ猭穦︽璹и-
硄筁猭ㄒ┪琌紀猭ㄏи-
猭ㄒ礚猭磅︽セㄓи穦絴硂琌"癶"絴"癶"竒絴眔びи谋眔竒⊿Τ種"癶"ぃ痷タは琈硂拜肈硂拜肈ㄏи-
谋眔и-
瞷硄筁チ匡某穦┮硄筁猭ㄒ琌讽Ы笲ノ舦┪ノ籔ゼㄓ羬ミ猭穦闽玒盢и-
┮ㄓ锣跑硂锣跑ㄏи-
窖ㄏи-
谋眔硂暗猭痷盿烩и-
秈堵穞獶痷タ龟ㄆ―琌矪瞶拜肈и癸ㄆ伐ぃ骸
畊ぃ笵┬琌稱坚睲
畊琌砏祘拜肈璝琌砏祘拜肈叫ミ祇ē獽
┬畊и稱眔у矗兵拜肈
畊砏祘拜肈ぃ琌某祇拜τ琌狦某デ砏┪琌瞷アê獽琌砏祘拜肈
┬辩某矗のиせら┮祇弧杠セ⊿Τㄤㄆи粄硂籔ㄆ龟ぃ才
畊程璶―坚睲玱獶琌砏祘拜肈狦弧彩ē漏粂ê碞琌砏祘拜肈辩模┚某叫膥尿
辩模┚某谅谅畊и獶璊睹弧и琌沮厨彻厨笵τ弧иぃ稱硓臩赣厨彻嘿ㄆ龟赣厨せるせら睲贰厨笵┬ē阶иぃ稱硂拜肈禣丁
Τ6︗某祇ēㄤい5︗竒ノぃàㄓ弧ヘ玡琌︙ぃЧ到眖ぃà秆睦и-
兵ㄒ︓タ莉硄筁琌︙单︽ち竒Τ睲贰冈灿ユ琌┬痷钩ㄆ兵ㄒ〆穦穦某畊瞷妓琌稱︑甅よッ环ぃ钮и-
種ǎ硂痷琌"蔓纍量"ッ环ぃ笷醚
毒浪膀某まノ计沮ㄓ弧┬ゼ滦借好и-
猭盡產郭Θ某眖猭àㄓ蛤秆睦⊿Τ钮琌弧玡芠翴ぷㄤ琌Τ闽材4(4)兵拜肈и-
兵ㄒ〆穦ず竒弧筂碞琌硂兵兵ㄒ絋琌弧┬竝璶璽砫絋玂Μやキ颗и-
竒穝弧筂硂琌璶―┬竝┪現┎场荷程快快ぃぃ穦砆跌デ猭иぃ笵┬竝Τ叫毙ㄤ猭臮拜и-
竒叫毙猭臮拜弧筂硂琌ぃ穦笻猭快ぃ杠ぃ衡笻猭璶荷τ獽硂琌и-
兵ㄒ〆穦癚阶筂讽Ы玱ぃ钡и-
種ǎи-
龟礚杠弧
ㄤ龟さぱи-
┮臛阶琌︙络﹚拜肈硂阀├琌だ璶┮產ぃ耞癚阶┬材弧杠碞琌璶沮︘め璽踞ㄓ璸衡衡瞶㎝そキи稱叫拜┬琌痷璽踞ㄓ络﹚獽﹚琌そキ㎝瞶㎡弧瞶沮琵и-
笵и钮だ牧祇ē玱Ч⊿Τ秆睦︙璽踞璸衡獽琌瞶㎝そキ拜肈祇ē⊿Τ秆睦琌弧讽Ы璽踞ㄓ璸衡τ籔硄等本恥玥妮ぃ瞶玱⊿Τ璽踞ゲ﹚瞶┮и借好硂拜肈
讽礛и-
ゼゲтЧよ猭иぃ粄璽踞ゲ﹚琌程そキのぃ熬ぃ斑よ猭ㄆ龟璝酚┮弧璽踞よ猭ㄓ龟︽妓琌Τ穦旧璓┬〆穦 ("┬〆穦") 瞷í疭琌そ恏秨やよ琌妓穦瞷íê赣快㎡┬琌琵íッ环㎡
叫ぃ璶琌弧и-
硂妓暗獽穦玻ネíㄤ龟讽Ы瞷┮绰よ琌璽踞ㄓ璸衡┬弧筁穦Τí瞷ぃ莱赣疭蛤и-
弧璽踞ㄓ璸衡琌程そキ程瞶┪琌程笲よ猭硂ぃ琌Τ瞶沮
ぃ笵┬ぃ耞弧穦瞷胑íΤは┪稱︙穦瞷ê或胑í㎡ッ笷某竒睲贰ㄤ龟瞷í琌膀ㄢ璶┮旧璓琌恨瞶琌蝴ッ笷某纯弧┬竝蝴㎝恨瞶よ瞷龟ア辨τ庢ㄇㄒ┮иぃ稱庢ぃ筁Τ闽蝴よ拜肈и稱干ッ笷某種ǎゼ冈灿弧硂翴翴讽Ы蝴程иぃ蔼砍ぇ矪τи獺ョ琌畒ご礛癘眔碞琌ê26糽拜肈そ赣26糽拜肈そタは琈┬竝㎝現┎癸┯坝菏恨ぃ旧璓"男加"㎝敖搭薄猵瞷τΘ加︓瞷ご璶ぃ耞蝴禣ノㄓ蝴硂ㄇ狦︙璶パ﹡チㄓ┯踞㎡и稱拜┬硂獶パ︑礛穕胊獶﹡チ硑Θ瘆胊τ琌讽Ы縱菏恨ぃ狦澈礛盢íユパ﹡チㄓ┯踞и獺ッ环ぃр硂暗猭弧Θ琌瞶
﹡チ盽щ禗Τ闽恨瞶よ拜肈и獺┬纯ǖ跌恏ǖ跌恏ㄆ琌砰戮ㄆ笵街穦玡瞷眔ǒ对キ盽拜拜﹡チ-
┮恏恨瞶篈獽笵琌或ㄆㄤ龟俱笲筁祘讽Ы琌禣㎝┬纯癸и弧癸┬〆穦瞷恨瞶よ猭粄拜肈琌Τ惠璶э到玱弧э到耴э到ぃ莱硂ㄓㄏ讽Ыэ到ぃ筁и玱は種ǎㄆ龟琌讽Ыㄏи-
稱硂よ猭ヘ玡┬竝Μ窥ぃ来眔︙ㄏノ┪ㄏノ眔ぃ讽┮и-
粄ぃ硂妓ゲ斗тよ猭ㄓぃ琵讽Ы膥尿睹窥
よ┬弧癩現琌縒ミ┮癩現縒ミよ眖恏秨やㄓ琌Τ腨í琌и粄ささら硂穦琌じてτ┬〆穦恨瞶琌じてぃ虫ゎ琌恨瞶そ┬临璶恨瞶坝穨虫︗㎝﹡单琂礛︙璶盢眀ヘだ秨τぃ琌眖俱砰ㄓ㎡ㄆ瞷Τ胑緇ぃ赣︙奔临璶竨叫臮拜そㄓ腊讽Ы╯︙硂掸窥妓ぃ璓硑Θ禣硂琌ㄆ龟и⊿Τ岿硂琌筁ぃ耞厨笵┮禗и-
ㄆ龟и粄и-
琂礛Τ胑緇獽莱赣т甅ぃ琌弧"璽踞"璸衡獽衡и粄程璶琌妓ㄏ┬〆穦┪┬竝俱砰笲Τ㎝龟悔秨やΤЧ俱笲よ猭
и-
さぱ笆某兵ㄒ琌だㄢよㄤ琌硄等拜肈よ玥琌そ籔ゑㄒい︗计籔硄等本恥ㄤ龟琌よ猭и-
ぃ琌ぃ琵讽Ы琌辨碩镑蝴瞶キㄏ﹡チ続莱虏虫ㄓ弧安笲︽τΩ笲⊿Τ拜肈玥Ωи-
瞶秆硄等薄猵礛硄等瞯夹拜肈獽秆∕┬玱弧硄等ぃ臮の龟悔拜肈珹ぃ璸衡加砞琁㎝翴单獽弧硂妓暗猭琌ぃそキ㎝ぃ瞶
и辨┬睲贰硂兵兵ㄒи-
┮矗琌硄等琌弧獶–Ω︓硂程蔼郴翴τ琌ぇΤぃ单莱ぃ跋㎝ぃ砞琁Τぃだ硂よ琌妓笷讽Ы璶―
畊иぃ粄и-
瞷笆某兵ㄒ⊿Τ竒筁瞏剪納ㄆ龟и-
计ぃ刮砰А竒筁瞏剪納粄琌︽そキの瞶だ皌戈方よ猭獶Ч┬┮ēи-
⊿Τ竒筁瞏剪納τ崩ぃ︽ぃぃそキτぃ瞶戈方だ皌よ猭
畊и程稱弧琌Τ闽3Ω拜肈︙矗3㎡┬竒盽弧ㄢΩ︽ぇΤτ3仓縩碩盢跑眔蔼τ硂阀├琌パ┬竒盽Τ稱猭碞琌猽ノ瞷よ猭璝琌3Ω碩ゲ﹚穦蔼琌и-
弧3獶獶猽ノ瞷よ猭τ琌ノи-
瞷某よ猭ㄓ璸衡ê獽ぃ穦Τび蔼碩ぃ穦﹡チ谋眔琌礛锣跑璓礚┯踞硂计ㄤ龟琌и-
璸衡ㄓ┮辨┬ぃ璶疭硂妓弧ㄤ龟笵瞶琌虏虫и瞷琌繦種庢ㄒ硄盽–硄等琌8%狦3硄等癬ㄓ玥24%ㄏ碩程蔼翴琌24%讽Ы瞷碩–ㄢΩキА碩竒ゑ24%临璶翴传杠弧ㄏ酚и-
某τ︽3Ω碩琌单瞷ㄢΩキА计и璸衡琌程蔼碩τ龟悔临翴︙穦﹡チ螟钡㎡и粄┬莱赣σ納睲贰и-
兵ㄒず甧ぃ璶虫琌┾ㄤい琘场だτ窖瞷ず璝琌讽礛穦Τ拜肈瞷穦跑眔螟龟︽
畊セ略朝勉
畊┬璶坚睲琌弧矗のêㄇ弧杠ㄤ龟眖ㄓ⊿Τ弧のτ璶―坚睲Τ或沮弧纯竒量のêㄇ弧杠
┬畊辩模┚某粃摥и弧иせら......
畊┬璶―坚睲ぃ讽琌祇ē
┬畊и璶―辩模┚某坚睲弧┬せら矗の璝盢ㄓ硂猭ㄒ莉眔硄筁ぃ龟琁┪崩陆硂猭ㄒи稱叫辩模┚某碞┮Τ戈產弧┬ぱ初弧筁硂礷杠
辩模┚某и琌厨彻硂玥璝礛厨笵岿粇и⊿Τ快猭璝┬弧⊿Τ矗のêぃゴ候琌厨彻厨笵岿粇絵
畊薄猵セ畊稱莱量琌厨彻
辩模┚某墨狦ら厨弧そ某璝璶硄筁翠┎牡磅︽螟┪紀猭
畊糕蚌┚某
糕蚌┚某畕地某纯竒矗のи-
ミ猭Ы某场だАミ初绊﹚ぃ穦ㄤ某簍弧τэ跑-
щ布種
畊糕蚌┚某瞷獶琌祇ē丁渤竒程氮臛丁セ畊稱矗砏祘拜肈痷ぃ種
糕蚌┚某и︑種ǎ琌ぃ阶琌氮臛┪或薄猵и......
畊程氮臛竒Ч拨ぃΤ某祇ē瞷璶癸某肈∕
畕地某糕蚌┚某弧杠琌穦更穦某筁祘タΑ魁ず
畊畕地某琌碭絵ê碞衡
畕地某狦琌穦糶穦某筁祘タΑ魁ずêи碞璶坚睲и琌︙︙る︙ら弧筁硂礷杠┪琌ê厨彻и弧筁硂礷杠渤
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill put.
兵ㄒ弄某ぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
畊セЫ瞷秈︽翴∕
畊セ畊稱矗眶︗某讽翴牧羘臫癬ㄤ龟琌秨穦丁┮ㄏ酵叫荷秖Μ鞬ㄇ略矗眶︗某瞷窖∕ぇ某肈1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒぉ弄
叫︗某∕竟狠ぇ秙ボ畊礛眖3秙い匡拒ㄤ秈︽∕
畊セ畊ガ挡狦ぇ玡叫︗癸┮∕琌Τヴ︙好拜瞷陪ボ挡狦
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Mr James TIEN, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LO Suk-ching and Miss Margaret NG voted against the motion.
Dr LEONG Che-hung abstained.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 36 votes in favour of the motion and 18 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
畊ガ觅Θ某36は癸18琌ガ某莉硄筁
Bill read the Second time.
兵ㄒ竒筁弄
Bill committed to a Committee of the whole Council pursuant to Standing Order 43(1).
ㄌ沮穦某盽砏材43兵材(1)蹿砏﹚盢兵ㄒ〆ぉ砰〆穦糵某
Committee stage of Bill
兵ㄒ砰〆穦糵某顶琿
Council went into Committee.
セЫ秈砰〆穦糵某顶琿
HOUSING (AMENDMENT) (NO. 3) BILL 1996
1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒ
Clause 1
兵ㄒ材1兵
辩模┚某璓勉畊и笆某タ材1兵糤干赣兵いゅセタず甧更祇癳︗〆ゅンず
畊иさぱ矗ユ硂兵兵ㄒ材1兵ず甧璶琌弧ネら戳и辨產やの硄筁
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 1 (See annex XXVI)
兵ㄒ材1兵ǎンXXVI
〆穦畊材1兵琌Τ闽ネら戳稱タ或㎡琌いゅセ
┬璓勉畊и璶ビ現┎ミ初パ瞷いゅセョ琌单盢俱兵兵ㄒ弘秈┮и稱ビ現┎ミ初碞琌膀そキ玥㎝磅︽よσ納и-
縀疨は癸兵ㄒ㎝┮Τタи赖叫︗某щは癸布
毒浪膀某瞷琌癚阶Τ闽いゅセ拜肈癸盾┬ぃ琌碞いゅセ祇ē
┬琌и琌矗Τ闽いゅセ拜肈
〆穦畊毒浪膀某厩来氮臛砏玥渤
〆穦畊┬セ畊弧いゅセ種碞琌叫碞某肈祇ē種いゅセ玱碞俱兵兵ㄒ祇ēぃ筁弧碭ぃ衡琌或拜肈
琖皇某畊狦璣ゅセ弧いゅいゅセ弧璣ゅ
CHAIRMAN: I think I had better conduct the rest of the business in English?
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clause 1, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材1兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clause 2
兵ㄒ材2兵
CHAIRMAN: Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr CHAN Kam-lam and Mr Bruce LIU have separately given notices to move amendments to the proposed section 16(1A)(a) in clause 2.
I propose that the amendments to the proposed section 16(1A)(a) in clause 2, proposed separately by Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr CHAN Kam-lam and Mr Bruce LIU, be debated together in a joint debate.
CHAIRMAN: Committee shall debate the amendments, proposed separately by Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr CHAN Kam-lam and Mr Bruce LIU, in a joint debate. I will first call upon Mr LEE Wing-tat to move his amendment by virtue of his seniority.
ッ笷某璓勉畊и笆某タ材2兵ず览某材16(1A)(a)兵タず甧更祇癳︗〆ゅンず
セタず甧┮疉の琌硂兜タㄤ龟琌碞辩模┚某某м砃タ辩模┚某祇ē某3Ωи種硂某琵めㄢΩぇ丁Τ琿耕齿丁и璶干翴碞琌綞┕穝加┪竒侣恏め-
侣恏┮煤琌700じ┪800じ穝恏穦碩糤︓2,500じ┪3,000じぃ单安ㄢΩ镑筳琿耕丁玥琵-
Τì镑丁続莱
谅谅畊
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 2 (See annex XXVI)
兵ㄒ材2兵ǎンXXVI
CHAIRMAN: I will call upon Mr CHAN Kam-lam first to speak on Mr LEE Wing-tat's motion and his own amendment, as well as the amendment proposed by Mr Bruce LIU. After Mr CHAN Kam-lam has spoken, I will call upon Mr Bruce LIU to speak. However, no motion may be moved by Mr CHAN Kam-lam or Mr Bruce LIU at this stage.
朝挪狶某璓勉畊и粄辩模┚某㎝ッ笷某笆某タ┮更某拜肈
-
粄┬〆穦妮そ恏︘め秸俱戳莱籔坝め霍筳3Ω琵︘めΤ耕続莱戳滴絯溃и粄璝3Ω杠ぃ虫ゎぃ倒ぉ-
滴絯戳はぇ–Ω-
┮璶┯踞溃盢穦2,400じㄒ璝3Ω碩穦讽钡800じ︓1,000じオ碩и粄硂妓暗穦ㄏ︘め–Ω綝溃よ癸êㄇ綞穝恏︘めㄓ弧-
–Ω┮┯踞溃㎝碩穦糉甡硂癸-
琌だぃそキ
и辨︗ㄆ秆3Ω籔ㄢΩㄆ龟癬ㄓ碩碭琌单ヘ玡龟琁琌ㄢΩ產常竒策篋璝э3Ω杠ゼゲ倒ぉ-
ヴ︙矪и辨︗ㄆは癸辩模┚某㎝ッ笷某タ
谅谅
郭Θ某璓勉畊и種ǎ倒朝挪狶某弧и瞷⊿Τ干
CHAIRMAN: Members may now debate the amendment moved by Mr LEE Wing-tat as well as the respective amendments proposed by Mr CHAN Kam-lam and Mr Bruce LIU.
Secretary for Housing, do you wish to speak? This is the meat of the entire Bill, only two clauses.
┬璓勉畊瞷そ琌ㄢ浪癚Ωタи材Ω臛阶纯竒ボ硂よ猭崩︽︽ぇΤ浪癚р硋亥秸俱︓ち龟悔琌そ︘め璽踞キ
и璶Ω某┮矗程ぶ–3浪癚Ω某ㄤ龟癸︘め㎝┬〆穦ㄓ弧常琌ぃゲ璶琌︘めセ竒钡㎝続莱–ㄢ秸俱Ωτ–3秸俱Ω┮仓縩糤碩盢穦耕ㄢ秸俱Ω蔼穦ㄏ︘め続莱Τ螟現┎は癸Τ闽タτи璶叫某癸赣单タщは癸布
谅谅畊
辩模┚某璓勉畊и竒矗の程璶琌蹦ノ︙贺璸衡よ猭狦ノи-
某璸衡よ猭玥ぃ穦琌莱赣琌﹡チ璽踞и稱倒產矗ㄑㄇ戈ㄤ龟瞷┬〆穦ㄇ坝め常琌–3浪癚Ω┮и-
ㄤ龟琌蹦ノ坝め琌ぃ辨┬〆穦ずΤㄢ贺辨镑┬〆穦蹦ノ贺┮辨產镑や硂兜–3浪癚Ω某
毒浪膀某璓勉畊┬氮滦の┬竝捌竝倒ぉи-
ㄧンА矗の璝籔ゑㄒい︗计10%璸衡–Ω常璶碞刁Μ秈︽Ω秸琩璝璶秈︽7Ω秸琩杠ヘ玡–ㄢΩ穦Τぃ摸恏跑Θ璶暗7Ω秸琩
ㄤ龟7Ω硂计琌︙ぃ暗ㄢΩ┪3Ω硂计ヘ琌パ┬竝﹚︙瞷璶だ7Ωрヒ摸恏だㄢΩ摸恏だㄢΩ侣砞〆穦恏だ秨Ω㎝坑ΑそΩㄆ龟摸恏瞷タぃ耞ア箂箂き獽ぃ侣砞〆穦恏Τ4ぃì2窾虫︗τ㎝坑Αそ玥ぃ耞糤ㄤ龟璶р摸の侣砞〆穦恏ヒ┪ヒ摸τ㎝坑Αそ玥摸ê或3Ω秸琩獽ì镑ぃ讽Ы┮弧耑チ–斗秸琩7Ωㄢず秸琩3ΩΘ
谅谅畊
CHAIRMAN: Before I put Mr LEE Wing-tat's motion to the Committee for a vote, I would advise Members that if Mr LEE Wing-tat's motion is agreed, that will by implication mean that the respective amendments proposed by Mr CHAN Kam-lam and Mr Bruce LIU are not approved. If Mr LEE Wing-tat's motion is negatived, I will call on Mr CHAN Kam-lam to move his amendment. Whether or not Mr Bruce LIU will be able to move his amendment will depend on the Committee's decision on Mr CHAN Kam-lam's motion.
Question on Mr LEE Wing-tat's amendment put.
ッ笷某ぇタぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
Mr Bruce LIU and Mr CHAN Kam-lam claimed a division.
郭Θ某の朝挪狶某璶―翴∕
CHAIRMAN: Committee shall proceed to a division.
CHAIRMAN: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on the question that the amendment moved by Mr LEE Wing-tat be approved. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
CHAIRMAN: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Miss Christine LOH, Mr James TIEN, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the amendment.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 29 votes in favour of the amendment and 25 votes against it. He therefore declared that the amendment was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ29は癸25琌ガタ莉∕
〆穦畊パッ笷某ぇタ莉∕朝挪狶某┪郭Θ某ぃ笆某-
︑矗ぇタ硂籔ぇ∕﹚ぃ璓
CHAIRMAN: Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr CHAN Kam-lam and Mr Bruce LIU have separately given notices to move amendments to the proposed section 16(1A)(b) in clause 2.
I propose that the amendments to the proposed section 16(1A)(b) in clause 2, proposed separately by Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr CHAN Kam-lam and Mr Bruce LIU, be debated together in a joint debate.
CHAIRMAN: Committee shall debate the amendments, proposed separately by Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr CHAN Kam-lam and Mr Bruce LIU, in a joint debate. I will first call upon Mr LEE Wing-tat to move his amendment by virtue of his seniority.
ッ笷某璓勉畊иご璶л耛弘临ゼ莉秤и-
琌秤闽瞷琌"栏ψ"
闽瞯琌妮璽踞┪硄等瞯┪琌莱﹚15%18.5%临琌10%ㄤ龟и-
確弄竒癚阶ぃぶ瞷и稱矗计翴辨┬Τ丁杠氮滦и-
材祇ē纯矗砛戈и辨и⊿Τ钮岿琌魁弧┬〆穦︘虫︗眀ヘ"瞷í"硂陪琌岿︓ぇ丁琌Τ緇┮硂翴琌岿
材и-
兵ㄒ〆穦矗兜拜肈眖ㄓ⊿Τ氮滦и-
さぱぃㄒ拜肈珹或╬┯快坝恨瞶恏斗ノ┬竝65%や獽ì镑临Τ緇或硂10讽Ы盢蝴睲间恏氨ó初恨瞶︓玂狝叭┬竝戮ご礛斗璶パ13 000糤︓瞷15 000㎡ㄆ竒矗拜肈膒挡琌パΘセ北芠├硂翴иぃ稱仑瓃и-
矗某ㄆぷㄤΤㄢ︗ㄆボ胔好╯澈快ㄤ龟硂琌快硄筁┬〆穦㎝┬竝э北Θセи-
ぃ虫ゎ盢俱恏眀ヘí搭τ穦Τ緇τр﹚籔ゑㄒい︗计10%硂翴ㄆボ觅Θ
畊иぃ稱狡確弄臛阶芠翴и辨︗ㄆや兜タ谅谅畊
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 2 (See annex XXVI)
兵ㄒ材2兵ǎンXXVI
CHAIRMAN: I will call upon Mr CHAN Kam-lam first to speak on Mr LEE Wing-tat's motion and his own amendment, as well as the amendment proposed by Mr Bruce LIU. After Mr CHAN Kam-lam has spoken, I will call upon Mr Bruce LIU to speak. However, no motion may be moved by Mr CHAN Kam-lam or Mr Bruce LIU at this stage.
朝挪狶某璓勉畊セЫぃぶㄆ癚阶┪基硂摸拜肈硄盽尺舧ノ硄等夹非璶碩ぃ蔼硄等獽琌ぱ竒竡钡璝ス蔼硄等玥獶は癸ぃぺ基近基のそ单獽琌ㄒи粄硂琌筁癵獺硄等夹τ┛菠ㄤ挡狦
畊辩模┚某㎝郭Θ某А某そ碩ぃ莱禬Ω仓縩硄等洪硄等瞯络﹚夹非安硄等瞯蔼カチ戈糤瞯τ糤碩笷硄等瞯杠穝ゲ礛穦叉瞒﹡チ璽踞そ虫︗筁计Ωㄒ㎝せ纯瞷ヒ摸禣基计蔼カチ戈糤瞯薄猵狦ら砏﹚そ硄等瞯杠玥礚好穦玠搭﹡チ獶︘よ秨や
ㄆ龟ッ笷某種洪硄等碩杠琌穦瞷и┮弧拜肈┮рэ耕硄等瞯2%チ羛粄硂兜计タ钩喋骸捌竝┮弧琌繦種璹﹚计ッ笷某⊿Τ秆睦或璶搭2%τぃ琌搭3%┪琌钩筿杠基ê妓搭4%璝硄等蔼戈糤ぃゎ2%ッ笷某よョ妓穦瞷辩模┚某タ妓拜肈
畊盢そ络﹚︘めい︗计10%獽穦籔┬〆穦"┬〆"瞷︽络﹚現郸玥璓琌そ︘め┯踞夹非и-
ぃ種盢硂κだゑ﹚眔び蔼ㄒ15%┪18.5%翠┎粄ス盢κだゑ﹚10%盢穦現郸ア紆┦ㄏ痷タΤ︘め煤ユ耕癸硂翴и琌荡癸ぃ種硂阶秸琌穦粇旧カチи-
ゲ斗眏秸р﹚い︗计10%┪タぃ穦紇臫┬〆穦瞷︽ㄤ現郸ㄒи-
ㄓ常は癸碔め現郸┪琌蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌カ現郸单瘤礛チ羛眏疨は癸┬〆穦崩︽硂ㄇ現郸琌и-
タ璝莉眔硄筁杠┬〆穦ご礛琌﹡チΜ蛮┪琌カτ翠┎泊い硂常琌Τì镑璽踞﹡チ┮莱煤ユㄤ龟ヘ玡現郸场だめ竒┬〆穦Τ闽現郸┮砏τ斗璶煤ユ讽禥
畊羆珹τēチ羛は癸そ碩㎝硄等本恥┮и-
は癸ッ笷某タ
谅谅畊
毒浪膀某璓勉畊и稱碞Μ喋骸捌竝氮臛硂肈ヘ獺ンの┬祇ēず甧ㄤい籔硂肈ヘΤ闽计翴莱㎝は婚
材-
ㄢ︗程眏秸琌狦琘ㄇ︘め產畑Μ糤硄等糤杠玥い︗计10%の硄等碩硂ㄢ诀獽穦癸硂ㄇぃそ笵硂弧猭琌Ч⊿Τ计沮や┪砛-
ぃ来计厩︙и璶硂妓弧㎡狦êㄇ產畑硂ㄢΜ琌ゑ玡耕杠い︗计10%︑礛穦繦ぇτ秸庢ㄒㄓ弧安砞さい︗计琌15,600じ璝ㄢ羱筍⊿Τ糤玥い︗计10%ご礛琌15,600じ赣10%肂琌ぃ跑笆ㄏ硄等–糤10%ㄢ玥ど20%êい︗计10%15,600じごど碩瘤礛弧琌硄等瞯碩程蔼安め羱筍琌糤3%︓4%τ硄等瞯玱琌10%杠讽Ы3%︓4%ぃ﹚璶糤10%璝弧Τ10%獽﹚璶糤︓杠硂妓呸胯琌ぃ瞶讽礛┬ご礛Τ舦∕﹚碩ご礛琌磝搐硂舦┮穦瓃よΑご璶∕﹚
材┬㎝捌竝А纯矗のパ恏翴加闹の跋砞琁АΤ┮ぃτ旧璓ぃ碩挡狦ぃ笷兵ㄒヘи粄硂弧猭琌パぃ秆瞷┬〆穦"┬〆穦"現郸τ玻ネ瞷┬〆穦膀セ琌盢恏だ计跋办ㄒ蒥跋‵バの芖购跋穝瓾㎝琌跋τ瞒畄琌跋单琌ぃ碩р恏だぃ舱τ舱ぇい碩玥琌璓и嘿ぇ"摸筁"ㄒ蒥跋虫︗常琌3じへи把┬〆穦Τ12–Ω常⊿Τ穦拜玭恏ゑ恏睝临琌ぶ睝ㄏホ谄Ю恏Τ25菌τ玭恏Τ10加闹⊿Τ穦拜ㄢ碩畉ぶぃ琌硂妓跋だ妮ヒ摸恏碞琌硂肂㎝坑Α恏玥琌硂妓碩и-
琌硂妓だ摸よ猭璹﹚碩┮だぃ穦ㄤ龟恏摸紇臫ぃêㄨτ琌秨﹍璹﹚êㄨ庢ㄒㄓ弧安讽盢蒥跋恏﹚10じ1へτ穝跋玥﹚5じ1へ玥ㄢ竒琌Τ┮ぃ縩虫︗蒥跋琌1,200じτ︗穝跋玥琌600じ瞷兵ㄒ某3Ωㄤ龟產癬˙翴竒ぃ琌眖600じ硂膀娄癬璸衡τ玥琌眖1,200じ秨﹍璸衡讽Ы程∕﹚êㄨ竒盢恏翴加闹の砞琁单兵ン璸衡ずら盢ぃ穦硂ㄇ兵ン┮紇臫и-
瞷癚阶琌拜肈獶﹚辨┬だ睲贰硂ㄢㄆ
材翴и璶は婚琌碔め現郸現┎ボΤㄇ恏めゑ耕碔Τ玱煤ユ妓瞷某現郸ぃそキㄏêㄇゑ耕碔Τめ瞷┮斗宽碔め現郸紇臫讽礛и-
琌は癸碔め現郸ぃ筁и-
璶┬硂碔め現郸琌ぃ穦紇臫或ぃ紇臫㎡沮参璸竝矗ㄑ计иぃ笵环┬郸菠计琌籔参璸竝陪ボせそ琌い︗计8%τ赣8%琌珹碔め传杠弧礚阶琌碔め俱砰κだゑ碞琌8%琌い︗计籔い︗计κだゑê8%碞琌硂妓璸衡ㄓ埃獶┬и参璸竝岿ê或и⊿快猭и钮獺赣竝戈琌癸ぃ筁и瞷安砞赣单计琌癸и粄瞷某ぃ穦紇臫碔め現郸┪ㄤ現郸
程翴и稱は婚琌讽Ы┬竝秨や盢穦ぃ耞糤硂ㄤ龟琌ぃ穦紇臫琌иЧ種ッ笷某種ǎ╯澈┬竝琌Τぞ单拜肈┪Τ垒ノ琘ㄇ砞琁拜肈硂ㄇ常旧璓秨や糤и┮矗兜獺氮┬好拜
谅谅畊
┬璓勉畊и稱Ω眏秸3︗某┮笆某タ琌琂ぃそキぃぃ︽Τ计翴
材Τ闽某瞶├絋琌デ膀セ岿粇Ч┛菠そ莱ち︘め璽踞膀セ玥
材狦タ莉眔硄筁﹚穦紇臫┬〆穦ΜㄏㄤΤ┮穕ア璓ぃ蝴瞷Τ恨瞶借㎝狝叭キ︓Τ某弧矗ㄤΜ干禟┪瑉禟某硂讽礛琌芠翴ぃ筁Т到瞶癩よ猭莱赣琌眀ヘΜ㎝や玥荷秖ㄏㄢ镑笷璓キ颗
材┬〆穦磅︽猭ㄒ﹚穦笿м砃┦螟タи┮弧Τ穦癸そ﹡チ篶Θ奶耑τи獺某ぃ辨ǎ耑チ薄猵瞷
材Τ闽兵ゅ猭Τ好翴ぃ紇臫┬〆穦磅︽瞷約翠カチ┮钡碔め現郸ま癬猭禗砠иぃ種Τㄇ某種ǎ瞷タ┮疉のㄢ贺ぃ璸衡よ猭ぃ穦紇臫碔め現郸ㄆ龟タ癸碔め現郸紇臫琌だ陪ス龟琁硂ㄇタ┪穝猭ㄒ﹚穦ゴ阑碔め現郸τそキだ皌祡ぶそ戈方硂兜玥綝瘆胊
畊羆ㄓ弧硂ㄇタ常琌Τ笻そキ玥穦穕甡そ渤痲琂糤睰そ︘め贺贺逮耑癸┬〆穦盿ㄓぃ螟㎝留紐
и稱Ωビ兵ㄒ〆穦┮秈︽糵某ㄤ龟ゼタΑЧΘ︓Τ某у蝶現┎ぃ倒ぉ戈ㄆㄤ龟現┎ぃ耞矗ㄑΤ闽戈璶―膥尿癚阶ぃ筁某㎝畊程∕﹚琌璶氨ゎ┮Τ癚阶の兵ㄒ〆穦糵某獽硂兵ㄒ㎝タさぱミ猭Ы琌ミ猭Ы盢ヰ穦┮璶ミㄨセЫ獽щ布∕и粄硂琌だぃタ絋Τ笻ミ猭弘
и稱Ω赖叫︗某窾ぃ璶瞯︽ㄆぃ璶やヴ︙タ
谅谅畊
︙┯ぱ某璓勉畊и-
︑パ囊琌ぃやヴ︙タτи纯и-
玥琌そ﹡チ璽踞ㄓ络﹚
и-
莱赣眖穦俱砰ㄓそ拜肈陪そ﹡チゲ﹚粄程ぃ璶糤︓穦粄瞷竒び蔼よゼ︘そカチ玥﹚穦弧或и-
璶煤ユ硂或蔼и-
硂或ゑㄒ現┎玱戈硂或肂倒êㄇ钩и-
妓竒蕾Τ螟カチ㎡и粄ゲ斗臮の瓃ㄢ摸種ǎ
材Τㄇ某粄或ぃр恏ㄤΜ挤ㄑ戈ぇノê妓獽и粄ぃ莱赣硂妓拜肈安┬〆穦眖坝初﹡┪琌ㄤよΜ┮寥窥盢ㄓ祇甶ㄤそ礚斗現┎戈┪琌ぃノ現┎禪蹿杠硂﹚琌ㄆ硂ぃ┬〆穦莉現┎挤砍坝初τ寥窥ゲ﹚璶倒êㄇ︘そめ戈瞷產┮癚阶琌キ莱笷祘の莱赣戈ぶ单拜肈讽礛Τ某莱赣﹚10%и-
玱粄ぃ惠璶硂或
Τ某借好恏恨瞶┪┬竝Θセ琌筁蔼或よэ到獽镑矗蔼Θセ痲硂翴и琌荡癸觅Θи粄┬竝莱赣荷ヴ︙よ猭矗蔼瞯搭Θセ︓┬竝Τ琌╬犁てパ╬诀篶璽砫磅︽庢ㄒㄓ弧現┎繥笵┕琌讽Ы︑恨瞶ぃ礚猭寥痲︓璶莲籯琌ㄓэパ╬诀篶恨瞶繥笵Μ禣瘤礛⊿Τэ跑╬そ玱Τ緇и粄硂よ猭琌眔沽刚硂ぃボ眖琘ㄇよ┮竊ㄓ窥ゲ﹚璶ノㄓ干禟そ﹡チ硂琌ぃ呸胯產璝粄そ﹡チゑㄒ筁蔼и-
讽礛璶σ納莱赣﹚キ癸и璶Ωビи-
σ納硂拜肈﹚璶σ納ㄤ炊硄カチ┬秨やのㄤ秨や薄猵硂妓ㄏ穦戈方眔そキだ皌
谅谅畊
辩模┚某璓勉畊セやッ笷某タ辨ㄤㄆ镑やи-
竒秨﹍材˙碞琌рㄢΩэ3安и-
ぃэ跑瞷杠碞穦┬┮弧盢ㄓи-
種琌辨э到玱穦跑Θ璽仓そ﹡チ硂琌材翴
材翴琌и辨產ㄆぃ璶盽р瞷╬加硂贺ぃ瞶籔そゑ耕パ蔼基現郸╬加瞷龟琌ぃそキ┮и辨產ぃ璶ㄢゑ耕硂妓ゑ耕琌ぃそキ㎝ぃ瞶
畊и辨產镑やッ笷某タ
朝挪狶某璓勉畊и竒弧筁硄等夹非ㄤ龟琌Τ拜肈┬〆穦┪┬竝览称癩現箇衡珹璸衡–Τ闽羱蝴禣ノのㄤよ秨や单ゼゲ籔硄等薄猵璓┪Τヴ︙本恥闽玒狦蹦ノッ笷某某硄等瞯搭2%硂κだゑㄓ璸衡玥穦玠搭┬〆穦癩現笲ノ笆丁и纯矗借好或璶搭2%τぃ琌搭3%4%┪1%㎡┮硂某弧琌⊿Τ瞶弧狝非玥
よи-
癚阶そ穦Τぃぶ借好и-
某琌痷そ﹡チê娩临琌匡布┪ㄤぃ筁и獶盽辨翠カチ笵и-
癚阶そ琌キミ初ㄓ癚阶и-
σ納そ琌穦俱砰戈方そ︘め琌и-
穦粄斗ぉ┮и-
ゲ斗璹﹚瞶俱砰カチ┮钡狦и-
рそ璹眔びи獺翠カチ常穦粄ぃ瞶и粄そ碩琌㎝俱砰穦Τ闽玒и獺┬〆穦ョ觅翴-
程庢︽Ω穦碞現┎环┬郸菠蝶某吭高ゅン癚阶そ碩拜肈粄そ莱籔め璽踞本恥堡琌┬〆穦穦戳┮礚猭碞璽踞硂拜肈璹夹非и粄硂琌堡иだ辨и镑笆某иタ某い︗计10%夹非и粄硂莱赣琌瞷程瞶稱よи辨︗某は癸ッ笷某タ眖τ琵и祔丁笆某иタ
谅谅畊
㏄辩睶┥某璓勉畊и纯竒琌┬〆穦〆ㄓパㄆ穨惠璶瞒秨┬〆穦ぃ筁êи粄醚Τ闽そ┬ㄆ﹜
и纯把籔〆ヴㄇチ種┬〆穦ㄤい珹セЫッ笷某毒浪膀某㎝独岸藉某硂ㄇ常琌ㄆ龟讽и籔灵秇城里獺璝-
镑把籔┬〆穦恨瞶竒秆┬〆穦俱砰τē琌︙σ納よ拜肈獽ぃ穦琌眖溃刮砰祇翴そ┬拜肈堡さぱ臛阶靡и讽稱猭琌岿и獺-
常睲贰笵┬〆穦︙磅︽の癩叭︙逼ㄏ耕Τ┬惠璶翠カチ磃-
瘤礛笵硂ち玱ご礛溃刮砰よΑ矪瞶┬拜肈ぃ縒硂妓パ-
瞷琌ミ猭Ы某琌現囊Θ┪︓琌囊豁τ镑笲ノ-
某穦匡布ミ猭ㄏΤ闽猭ㄒΘ┬〆穦"び"北┬〆穦癩現硂翴琌и┮﹍ぃの
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┬〆穦硂或螟笵ごぃ秆斗臮のよ痲キ颗盾硂翴и琌礚猭獺-
常琌羙骸Τ醇紌琌-
さぱ澈礛洪そ﹡チ煤耕獽﹜玡矗иぃ粄Τㄇそ﹡チ竒蕾ぃиぃ獺砰そ﹡チ竒蕾常ぃ
產莱笵ぃぶそ﹡チそ︘パㄓ┬よ璽踞耕ㄤカチ淮讽炒挂竒蕾兵ン硋亥锣癬ㄓ產畑Μ︑礛糤τ玱ご琌讽瞶┪︓蛤ㄤゑ妮キ-
纗籛穦耕ㄤ獶そ﹡チ硂妓薄猵璝ごぃ耞êㄇ戳そよ磃τ竒蕾吏挂Τ伐э到竊旧璓┬〆穦ぃ镑腊ㄤΤ惠璶そи粄硂琌だぃ癸
и笵┬独琍地竒盽ボ瞷拜肈現獀てи玥粄硂琌膀セ拜肈そ﹡チ翠-
瞷琌磃τи獺ヴ︙磃常ぃ穦は癸-
膥尿磃ぃ筁иぃ獺┮Τそ﹡チみ篈常琌稱┑尿硂ぃそキ戈方だ皌-
ㄤ龟腀種耕и-
Τ︘そ㈱フ弧и纯钮ǎΤ某ボ璶计糽そ﹡チ痲獽ì镑硂絋龟琌-
匡庢稱猭琌痷窾絋硂琌êㄇ某岿盾ぃ硂ぃ琌-
岿ㄏヴ︙把籔炊匡常穦硂妓暗硂妓稱讽ヴ︙把匡常ゲ斗┮匡チ程蔼痲┮膀セ弧琌現┎环ǎ挡狦
沮ヘ玡薄猵и獺盢ㄓêㄇぃ琌パ炊匡┪匡玻ネ某ゲ穦綝篕⊿Τそ﹡チ痲ス酵のそ拜肈︑礛穦ま璓糔羘癬硂琌ボи-
⊿Τ翠痲㎡讽礛ぃ琌ㄆ龟タ︙┯ぱ某┮弧и-
琌璶σ納よの俱砰痲ぃ阶琌祏帹临琌帹痲常璶σ納祔ㄤ某穦は婚иτи辨-
穦硂妓暗琵и秆-
瞶沮и獺и-
さぱ璶癸硂妓Ы场だ琌パセ翠Τ︘そパи-
ヘ玡Τ炊匡┪匡硑Θи-
某⊿Τㄤ匡拒ぃ眔ぃ膥尿そめ獽﹜и粄硂琌ぃ癸玱礚ーи粄и-
﹚璶稱睲贰ぃ璶カチ癸┬惠璶τ暗硂妓挡狦玱だてи-
穦
и辨產灿みσ納Τ闽拜肈辨ㄆσ納︙耕そ笵矪瞶硂ㄆ﹜琵┬〆穦ㄓ┮眔ㄎ罿眔玂и-
窾ぃ璶籹硑兜猭ㄒ"び"瞣┬〆穦祇甶┬〆穦ぃ琌θ诀篶洪琌Τ惠璶の竒蕾兵ンΤカチτ
MR RONALD ARCULLI: Mr Chairman, I had not actually intended to speak on this debate, but I was listening to my colleagues sitting in the ante-chamber and I just wondered whether some of the bare facts have been actually laid before this Council tonight.
Perhaps some of my colleagues who are much more knowledgeable in the matter of public housing, be it for rental or be it ownership, would know these facts far more intimately than I would, but I thought that at least as a Member of this Council I ought to perhaps remind them that in terms of the housing policy of the Hong Kong Government, despite all the efforts of Mr Dominic WONG, the Secretary for Housing, over the last few years, obviously as politicians we are never completely and totally happy with anything that the Government does, however well they do it.
But I think fair is fair, in terms of the Hong Kong Government, over the past years, public housing in Hong Kong actually houses, as I recall, just over 50% percent of our community. In terms of public rental housing, if I am correct, there are about 660 000 units and of these units, all of which are rental and I think there are a couple of 100 000 Home Ownership Scheme or Private Sector Participation Scheme through which the occupiers of houses actually buy the home at a fairly subsidised rate, but coming back to public housing on a rental basis because that is what this particular Bill is all about, about a third of them are new units and about two-thirds of them are old units.
And in terms of the rent that is charged, my understanding is that the overall average for the MRIR is about 8.7, so call it 9%. For the new premises it is 14%, whereas for the old it is somewhere between four and a half and 5%.
Now, why do I particularly want to bring out these particular statistics? It is actually quite simple, because we always press the Government to improve the living conditions of the less fortunate in Hong Kong, and I daresay that some of our housing tenants certainly would fall, without any doubt, within the definition that I have just made, the less fortunate. But having said that, some of them also fall within the more fortunate. We actually have tenants living in our public housing units driving Mercedes Benz. All you need to do is go and look at the car park, you'll see it. We have multi-millionaires as public housing tenants.
I notice I got some reaction from the Gallery. If my comments surprise you, but that unfortunately is the policy that our Government has decided that if you are a public housing tenant basically ......
CHAIRMAN: Mr Ronald ARCULLI, may I remind you that you are not supposed to address the gallery.
MR RONALD ARCULLI: My apology, Mr Chairman, I just cannot help noticing some reactions from the gallery. I was not addressing the gallery, I would not do the Chair that disrespect, and I do apologize.
But some of our public housing tenants are actually multi-millionaires. Where in the world, what country in the world, I ask, would you find multi-millionaires? But the reason for that is because of a policy that was decided some years ago by the Hong Kong Government, and that policy was simply this.
CHAIRMAN: Mr Ronald ARCULLI, please speak to the question. The question is on section 16(1A)(b) in clause 2.
MR MARTIN LEE: Is Standing Orders against filibusters, Mr Chairman?
MR RONALD ARCULLI: Mr Chairman, obviously my Honourable colleague, Martin LEE, realizes that the longer he keeps me on my feet the longer I would, in his words, filibuster, but I am not seeking a filibuster.
But, as I said, Mr Chairman, coming back to the point, in terms of resources that we have in Hong Kong, in terms of wanting to improve the housing quality and housing standards, a lot of our old units need to be and I do not say "need" in a frivolous way need to be demolished, rebuilt ......
CHAIRMAN: Mr Ronald ARCULLI, we are on section 16(1A)(b) which is about the determination of rent.
MR RONALD ARCULLI: Mr Chairman, if you would bear with me, I pointed out earlier that in terms of the rent for new premises, it was 14%. In terms of the rent for old premises it was 5% of the MRIR. The point that I am seeking to address Members, and indeed you, Mr Chairman, is that if we have to redevelop the old units and rebuild new units the 5%, which is two-thirds of our existing public rental housing units, the 5% will no longer apply.
So, if let us say we redevelop half of the old units, Mr Chairman, we would then still have a third of our public housing rental units paying 5%, but the new units would be paying 14% of the MRIR. Now, if that is so the average that I drew your attention to earlier, Mr Chairman, of 8.7% or indeed, say rounded up to 9%, would far exceed the limit that is sought and has been, sort of, agreed to by some colleagues here in the Honourable LEE Wing-tat's amendment.
So, basically what I am saying is that if we want to have, to improve the quality of housing and ultimately redevelop the entire two-thirds of the old units then the rent, even if we kept the percentage of MRIR at 14%, it would certainly far exceed the limit that is set by Mr LEE Wing-tat's amendment.
My spies tell me that if that happened in 10 years' time, the Housing Authority, who all of us are under the impression right now, is totally flush with cash, will have a $30 Billion deficit. Where does that leave us? Is that what we want to see? It does not matter whether it is in five years' time or five days' time or five months' time. I think what we do owe our community is decent housing at an affordable price and I think as far as the current policy is concerned, part of which is set out, Mr Chairman, as you realise in the Long-Term Housing Strategy Review, and part of which is quite controversial, I think we owe it to the community to come to a rational and a fair decision. And on that basis, Mr Chairman, I would say that Members should not support the particular clause in question. Thank you.
糂簙煌某畊セЫ某常闽猔そゲ斗σ納そ﹡チ璽踞拜肈琌瞷硂兜某┪タ膀セ琌盢︽現㎝ミ猭睼瞔ミ猭Ы琌菏服︽現诀闽安︽現诀闽琁現瞷ぃそキ紇臫チネ┪琌癸チネΤ甡薄猵и-
琌Τ砫ヴタ硂ㄇ拜肈
產笵翠坝穨だ祇笷τи-
竒蕾祇甶酱玨ㄤよ祇甶ǔ硉安﹚璶筳3糤そ虫︗硂﹚穦癸翠現┎琁現㎝癩現ㄓ方Τ﹚紇臫
ッ笷某畊иぃг硂薄猵膥尿ㄆ琌狡祇ē⊿Τ皐癸某肈祇ēи-
瞷癚阶琌硄等10%い︗计τ糂某玥酵阶舅の硂3薄猵セ籔セ某肈礚闽и谋眔畊莱∕﹚瞷硂初臛阶琌そタ某琌Τ種╈┑硂某矗璝琌и穦谋眔端み狦硂薄猵膥尿щ布盢穦╈┑︓さ贬6秈︽
CHAIRMAN: Mr Ambrose LAU, please speak to the question.
糂簙煌某畊ㄤ龟璶г瑻ㄇ碞フи祇ēヘи祇ēヘ碞琌皐癸瞷矗硂璶﹚煤ユぶ某琌瞶そキの癸翠俱砰穦Τ痲暗猭
и粄狦パミ猭Ы禗現┎莱赣妓暗盢穦Τ穕翠俱砰穦痲иフ產常闽みそ﹡チ痲拜肈琌и-
璶穦俱砰痲玡矗㎝玥安ミ猭Ы︽現诀闽快ㄆ┪琌禗︽現诀闽莱赣妓暗и矗玡矗盢穦ぃゲ璶㎝︽現诀闽㎝砫ヴи粄ぃ莱赣パミ猭Ы∕﹚礛現┎ら碞そ虫︗秸俱碩
и獺產常フи-
ぃ莱赣安砞翠現┎┪ゼㄓ疭跋現┎┮ヴ︙琁現常穦紇臫そ﹡チ痲и-
ぃ安砞琂礛и-
ぃ安砞и-
獽⊿Τ瞶パミ猭∕﹚ゼㄓ︽現诀闽ヴ︙∕﹚安砞痷Τぃそ竡薄猵瞷и-
ミ猭Ы临Τ㎝舦現┎и-
硄筁硚畖現┎琁溃ㄒи-
硄筁笆某臛阶......
CHAIRMAN: Mr Ambrose LAU, please speak to the question.
糂簙煌某畊闽碩現┎碩拜肈и粄琂礛и-
瞷Τ硂诀ら硂诀現┎и粄ぃ莱顶琿祑┦砏﹚碩и辨︗某镑だσ納硂妓暗琌癸そ﹡チ﹚Τ痲и粄產莱赣σ納翠俱砰痲礛∕﹚
谅谅畊セ略朝勉
CHAIRMAN: Before I put Mr LEE Wing-tat's motion to the Committee for a vote, I would advise Members that if Mr LEE Wing-tat's motion is agreed, that will by implication mean that the respective amendments proposed by Mr CHAN Kam-lam and Mr Bruce LIU are not approved. If Mr LEE Wing-tat's motion is negatived, I will call on Mr CHAN Kam-lam to move his amendment. Whether or not Mr Bruce LIU will be able to move his amendment will depend on the Committee's decision on Mr CHAN Kam-lam's motion.
Question on Mr LEE Wing-tat's amendment put.
ッ笷某ぇタぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
Mr CHAN Kam-lam claimed a division.
朝挪狶某璶―翴∕
CHAIRMAN: Committee shall proceed to a division.
CHAIRMAN: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on the question that the amendment to section 16(1A)(b) moved by Mr LEE Wing-tat be approved. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
CHAIRMAN: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Dr David LI, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Miss Christine LOH, Mr James TIEN, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Miss Margaret NG and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the amendment.
Dr LAW Cheung-kwok abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 28 votes in favour of the amendment and 28 votes against it.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ28は癸28
CHAIRMAN: In accordance with the principle set down by Speaker DENISON in 1867, I exercise my casting vote in the negative. The amendment is negatived.
〆穦畊パッ笷某笆某ぇタ綝∕セ畊瞷叫朝挪狶某笆某
朝挪狶某璓勉畊и笆某タ材2兵ず览某材16(1A)兵タず甧更祇癳︗〆ゅンぇず
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 2 (See annex XXVI)
兵ㄒ材2兵ǎンXXVI
Question on Mr CHAN Kam-lam's amendment put.
朝挪狶某ぇタぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
CHAIRMAN: Committee shall proceed to a division.
CHAIRMAN: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on the question that the amendment moved by Mr CHAN Kam-lam be approved. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
CHAIRMAN: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Dr David LI, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Miss Christine LOH, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LO Suk-ching and Miss Margaret NG voted against the amendment.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 40 votes in favour of the amendment and 15 votes against it. He therefore declared that the amendment was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θ40は癸15琌ガタ莉∕
Mr NGAI Shiu-kit complained that his voting machine did not work.
ぶ城某ボㄤщ布竟ア
CHAIRMAN: When there is a complaint, first of all, the Clerk will test the unit again. Does it work? We will test the unit again.
︙庇古某畊и辨坚睲瞷琌刚牧临琌穝щ布
〆穦畊Τぶ琌Τ56钩琌ぶ1布и-
瞷Τ57и-
瞷翴衡计
バ玊某畊и⊿Τщ布
〆穦畊硂⊿Τ闽玒It is a very big margin, 40 for the "Ayes" and 15 for the "Noes". It does not affect the result at all.
〆穦畊パ朝挪狶某ぇタ莉∕郭Θ某ぃ笆某タ硂籔ぇ∕﹚ぃ璓
Question on clause 2, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タぇ兵ㄒ材2兵竒窖∕莉硄筁
Long title
冈肈
辩模┚某璓勉畊и笆某タ冈肈糤干ㄤいゅセタず甧更祇癳︗〆ぇゅンず
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Council then resumed.
砰〆穦繦τ確ミ猭Ы
Third Reading of Bill
兵ㄒ弄
MR LEUNG YIU-CHUNG reported that the
辩模┚某厨孔
HOUSING (AMENDMENT) (NO. 3) BILL 1996
1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒ
had passed through Committee with amendments. He moved the Third Reading of the Bill.
竒タ硄筁砰〆穦糵某顶琿笆某弄瓃兵ㄒ
Question on the Third Reading of the Bill proposed and put.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
Dr YEUNG Sum and Mr SZETO Wah claimed a division.
法此某の畕地某璶―翴∕
PRESIDENT: Council shall proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on the Third Reading of the Housing (Amendment) (No. 3) Bill 1996. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Dr David LI, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Dr Philip WONG, Mr Howard YOUNG, Miss Christine LOH, Mr James TIEN, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LO Suk-ching and Miss Margaret NG voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 38 votes in favour of the motion and 19 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
畊ガ觅Θ某38は癸19琌ガ某莉∕
Bill read the Third time and passed.
兵ㄒ竒弄硄筁
Resumption of Second Reading Debate on Bill
確兵ㄒ弄臛阶
INTERCEPTION OF COMMUNICATIONS BILL
篒硄癟兵ㄒ
Resumption of debate on Second Reading which was moved on 23 April 1997
確るら笆某弄臛阶
︙玊く某璓勉畊翠舦猭兵ㄒ"舦猭"材兵砏﹚"ヴ︙ぇ╬ネ產畑︘┮┪硄獺ぃ眔礚瞶┪獶猭獻耑ㄤ臕の獺ノョぃ眔獶猭瘆胊癸贺獻耑┪瘆胊Τ猭玂臔ぇ舦"硂ョ籔そチ舦㎝現獀舦瓣悔そ材兵砏﹚の籔稼瑆玂毁舦の膀セ︑パそ材兵
ぃ筁沮瞷翠猭ㄒ筿癟兵ㄒ材33兵ぇ羆服そ渤痲瞶パ礚斗秆睦甭舦そ戮秈︽ヴ︙篒钮︽秎現竝兵ㄒ材13兵ぇガ現甭舦秎現竝竝┪ヴ︙秎現秨币ヴ︙秎┪ぃ阶摸┮Τ秎
兵ㄒ⊿Τ絋﹚或薄猵笲ノ硂舦┪琌ノㄓ癸或┦借竜︽兵ㄒョ⊿Τ碞篒眔ㄓ戈ノ硚のㄇ眔┪街┸臩篒戈单拜肈猭砏瘤礛兵ㄒ砏﹚︽ㄏ舦斗才そ渤痲琌そ渤痲┮琌或ョ⊿Τ猭ㄒいゅ砏﹚チ囊粄硂兵兵ㄒ结ぉ舦だ約獂睝礚瞶砏砆垒ノ腨獻デ╬留籔舦猭材兵砏﹚玂毁╬铆舦Τ牟
羛瓣舦〆穦纯碞そチ舦㎝現獀舦瓣悔そ材兵翠舦猭材兵玂毁╬留舦砏﹚筁蝶阶
"兵ゅ斗玂靡硂兜舦ぃヴ︙疉礚阶硂ㄇ疉琌ㄓ︑瓣產诀闽┪猭""Τ闽兵ㄒ斗冈灿τ絋弧︙贺薄猵穦す砛疉τゲ斗パ猭甭舦诀闽莱–Ω薄猵秈︽粄疉∕﹚帽瓣セō斗砞ミ甅窽ゎ硂ㄇ︽猭玂毁"
眖稼瑆舦猭畑计﹙ㄒи-
侯ㄇ猭琜篶ゲ璶じ珹甭舦篒硄癟も┮皐癸の竜︽摸甭舦篒硄癟もΤ戳Τ闽技魁篒眔ㄓ癸杠祘灿竊┪埃┪反防魁盿玂毁惫琁瞶睲捶陪ボ現┎诀闽莉结ぉΤ闽皍薄舦絛瞅㎝︽ㄏ硂舦よΑ
猭ゲ斗ì倒カチ矗ㄑì镑矗ボ贺薄猵㎝兵ン現┎诀闽穦莉甭舦秈︽硂ㄇ篒硄癟耑︽硂ㄇ兵ン珹ゲ斗Τ"痷タ腨"竜︽ゲ斗纯竒沽刚筁秸琩よ猭沧ア毖ゲ斗Τ瞶パ獺篒硄癟讽玃Θ秂竜デの盢竜デ﹚竜
玥璝猭ㄒ絢ぃ睲羇礛Τ猭ㄒ穦砆稼瑆舦猭畑掉﹚笻はそ璣瓣疉の篒硄癟猭碞琌猭ㄒ⊿Τ瞶睲贰陪ボ現┎诀闽莉甭ぉ皍薄舦絛瞅の︽ㄏ硂舦よΑτ砆舦猭畑掉﹚笻は瓣悔そ猭畑羆挡カチろ猭獀穦┮莱Τ程祘猭玂毁
沮瓃ㄒ翠猭э〆穦妮╬留拜肈舱〆穦糵跌翠筿癟兵ㄒ㎝秎現竝兵ㄒ兵ゅ粄硂ㄇ兵ゅ琌妓⊿Τ倒ぉ︽現诀闽篒硄癟舦Τ闽皍薄舦絛瞅㎝︽ㄏ硂ㄇ舦よΑ珹ゼだ睲捶倒カチ矗ㄑì镑ま贺薄猵㎝兵ン穦砛篒硄癟τ籔舦猭材兵ぃ才
陪璽砫ヴのΤ笵竡現┎翠現┎瞶莱荷Ν璹﹚Τ闽猭琜篶砏恨︽現诀闽甭舦篒硄癟舦玂毁╬留舦ㄏ翠猭ㄒ才舦猭㎝瓣悔そ砏﹚
ぃ筁翠現┎蹦"硁ブ矰"篈"ノ╈砕"も琿舦舱麓チ囊ミ猭Ы某礷妒玃矗兵フ兵ㄒ︓さご筐筐ぃ秈︽ミ猭さぱ翠現┎临竒盽襖略ビ某某兵ㄒ︽現ぃ︽Ыず某村弧璶―產は癸﹚ミ猭砏恨篒硄癟︽刚拜翠現┎瞷е璶篗翠硂ㄨ讽ウ弧ウ糹︽瓣悔舦そ砫ヴぇ悔玱澈礛и┮矗の︽︙癸眔癬カチ㎡羛瓣舦〆穦ユ瞷舦簿ユ玡翠猭ㄒいご痙Τ砛笻は舦猭の砛瓣悔舦そ猭ㄒτ翠猭ㄒいご痙Τ砛笻は舦猭の砛瓣悔舦そ猭ㄒτ現┎玱ご琌跌τぃ臮硂琌и-
稰伐濡狙
チ囊さぱ確弄硂兵兵ㄒ碞琌沮瓃砏﹚の兵ン璹﹚才舦猭篒硄癟兵ㄒ砏磅猭﹚薄猵の矗ㄑì镑瞶パ猭ビ叫猭秈︽篒硄癟︽硂籔磅猭瞷斗猭畑ビ叫も秈︽穓琩ミ猭弘璝
襖略ビ某セ矗ユ兵ㄒ琌程祘磅猭ビ叫赣も玂毁╬留舦竒籔ミ猭Ыㄆ叭〆穦の籔ㄤ刮砰の某Ω癚阶襖略ビ某㎝и-
钮產種ǎи-
腀種ㄇタ祔и穦チ囊矗耕放㎝タ珹钡現┎種ǎр"腨竜︽"タ程蔼籃砆ぃぶ7竜︽の钡某某р–Ωビ叫もΤ戳90ぱの尿戳90ぱ
иタ临珹矪瞶綪反砆篒硄癟祘甧砛甭舦猭畑矗璶―は癸綪反砆篒
畊セ略朝勉叫某や硂兵ㄒ弄やチ囊┮矗タ
1.05 am
贬105だ
THE PRESIDENT'S DEPUTY, DR LEONG CHE-HUNG, took the Chair.
瞶畊辩醇翬某既穦某
糂紌某璓勉瞶畊и祇ēや弄襖略ビ某篒硄癟兵ㄒ
タ︙玊く某┮ē沮筿癟兵ㄒ材33兵羆服膀そ渤痲τ甭舦磅猭耑┪篒筿癟沮秎現竝兵ㄒ材13兵ガ現ョуも秨币┪┑筐矪瞶ヴ︙秎兵ㄒぃ斗そ渤痲非玥猭э〆穦纯竒ㄢ兵猭ㄒ笻はそチ舦の現獀舦瓣悔そ材兵の翠舦猭兵ㄒ材兵ㄢ兜兵ゅ砏﹚ヴ︙╬ネ┪硄癟ぃ眔砆礚瞶┪獶猭獻耑τ癸硂贺獻耑Τ猭玂臔舦
瞶畊Τ闽ミ猭砏恨篒硄癟拜肈猭э〆穦烈╬留拜肈舱〆穦い祇吭高ゅンる┏猭э〆穦竒ЧΘ╯厨┮そ渤種ǎㄤ龟琌獶盽睲贰現┎瞶莱Νも矪瞶ミ猭琌ぃ┋玂さる┏祇篒硄癟兵ㄒ吭高ゅン"眏︽"弧璶吭高そ渤1る礚硂琌贺╈┑ミ猭も琿τЧΘ吭高ぇ現┎弧Μ14種ǎ璝沮そ叭蔼瞯ぷㄤ琌兢紋圭ネ参烩玂и獺琌荡癸Τì镑丁ЧΘ兵ㄒ礛矗ユミ猭Ы
堡琌兢ネぃ甴ミ猭Ы籔и-
秨穦捌も畊ミ猭Ы戈癟現郸ㄆ叭〆穦の玂ㄆ叭〆穦羛穦某崩弧ぃΤ⊿Τì镑布计琌⊿Τ舅厨祅ユ倒ミ猭Ы糵某и獺иの┮Τ畊ㄆ┪埃腑瓣辆某癸現┎单暗猭稰獶盽极纯钮筁Τ兵ㄒ璶笵Τì镑布计ユㄓ㎡讽礛玂穦弧"ぃ琌盾Ωㄆ竜︽兵ㄒ狦痷倒-
甡璚"и谋眔硂琌弧ぃ筁程璶琌猭э〆穦弧篒硄癟琌笻は舦そ彻街玂玱ぃ布计琌ì镑硂龟螟钡
弧﹟Τㄢぱ獽璶瞒ヴ羆服碸﹚眃ネ莱赣稰谋獶盽槽幵獺瞶畊癘眔ヴぇ纯弧璶浪癚┮ΤΤ闽穝籇︑パ猭ㄒ狦Τヴ︙Й锚穝籇︑パ笻は舦猭笻は瓣悔舦そ猭ㄒ﹚ゲぉ紀埃┪璹筿癟兵ㄒ碞琌ユ倒и-
虫いㄤい兜瞷玱琌ぃ幢ぃэㄏ琌琵舦舦絴︓"﹀睴繷"琌ぃэ┮瞷襖略ビ某矗某兵ㄒи琌獶盽や
兵ㄒ某磅猭﹚璶硓筁猭莉眔も秈︽叛钮┪篒硄癟иや硂ノ猭もパ羆服┪ガ現甭舦秈︽叛钮┪琌篒戈暗猭硂妓暗ㄏカチ╬留眔だ玂毁
程瞶畊и稱矗矗Τ闽玂矗吭高ゅンゼ矗の璶砏恨筿福呼蹈┮肚癳硄癟硂よぷㄤ琌翠厩盡產琌稰獶盽极現┎秆睦弧硂琌パ筿癟兵ㄒ材27A兵Τだ玂毁璝и-
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讽礛и-
稰框狙琌⊿Τì镑丁眔冈灿坝癚и稱硂ぃ莱琌ミ猭Ы璶璽砫ヴτ琌現┎╈╈產⊿Τ丁暗ㄏㄢ兵兵ㄒ陪礛琌笻は瓣悔舦そ笻は舦猭兵ㄒ璶砈も芠竚璝籇ウ岿岿痷ぃフ翠現┎盽︑郒碙舦碙猭獀瞷腨拜肈玱ㄓ竚ぇぃ瞶珿種╈┑︓程崩弧⊿Τ丁暗⊿Τì镑布计ㄆぃ闽妓и癸稰だ极ョ粄硂ぃ琌璽砫ヴ現┎┮莱Τ篈
и略朝勉や弄
腑瓣辆某璓勉瞶畊︑翠舦猭兵ㄒ硄筁ネ砛┕牟舦猭猭ㄒА璹秨﹍ミ甅玂毁╬留猭ㄒ戈╬留兵ㄒ竒現┎ㄓ瞷逞闽篒硄癟ゼ纯Τ甅Τ菏恨猭ㄒ
猭э穦┏祇闽砏恨篒钮篒硄癟厨某ま甅猭もㄓ瞷︽パ羆服┪ガ現帽祇も
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瞶畊癸疉の╬留㎝セ翠獀拜肈チ羛粄璹Τ闽猭ㄒゲ斗眖璸某約獂吭高蒥チ㎝磅猭诀闽癸硂よ種ǎ眖い眔キ颗よ硂琌и-
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瞶畊セ略朝勉は癸兵ㄒ璹
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Τ拜ии-
畒某Τ纯竒砆翠現┎羆服叛钮㎡瞶畊ぃê丁洛叭┮纯砆叛钮㎡┪и-
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硂厨弧瞷筿癟兵ㄒ材33兵㎝秎現竝兵ㄒ材13兵Τ9翴硂9兜翴獽琌и-
瞷⊿ΤЧ到砏絛и虏虫酵酵硂9兜τ硂9兜翴ㄤ龟タ琌斗璶ミ猭
材瞷兵ゅ⊿Τ膀或秈︽叛钮材礚阶羆服┪ガ現甭舦常琌礚斗ヴ︙瞶沮や-
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ㄤ龟硂瞶パ竒ìи-
谋眔斗璶ミ猭┮猭э穦挡阶琌陪τǎ瞷ㄢ兜兵ゅ⊿Τ矗ㄑì镑玂毁ㄏ╬留㎝硄癟︑パ獶猭┪ヴ種耑┮ゲ斗﹚猭砏恨叛钮篒硄癟笆硂挡阶琌睲贰琂礛璶ミ猭程琌パ現┎ミ猭現┎览兵ㄒ兵ㄒ硄盽琌Τ盡產把籔糶眔耕冈灿㎝ㄏノそ┊┮現┎フ琌糶眔耕冈荷翴璝現┎ぃ览某獽Τ砫ヴ矗某兵ㄒぃ筁矗某兵ㄒ琌Τ琌ぃΤそ┊┯踞┮и-
览璶Τмォ
癸襖略ビ某兵ㄒи╯眔会冈灿璶琌︽眔硄и既稱祔蝶阶現┎弧Τ碭翴琌︽ぃ硄┮ぃやи硋翴莱材兵ㄒ某翠瞶パビ叫も硂翴и谋眔琌莱翠硂瞶パ┮и㎝襖某癚阶筁祔〆穦糵某顶琿и谋眔硂翴琌莱赣や
材弧瞷兵ㄒ絛瞅び約惗珹и-
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材瞷ビ叫叛钮もΤ30ぱ戳ビ叫Ω琌30ぱ硂妓祏丁琌︽ぃ硄и-
硂翴璶ㄤ瓣產薄猵ゑ耕獽もΤ戳㎝尿戳拜肈и-
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穦や︙玊く某矗Τ90ぱ丁礛ビ叫90ぱ丁и谋眔琌硂よ莱赣︽眔硄
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瞶畊セ略朝勉や兵ㄒ弄㎝弄
㏄辩睶┥某璓勉瞶畊и︑パ囊祇癸襖略ビ某篒硄癟兵ㄒ種ǎи-
獶盽碙襖某硂Ω矗硂兵兵ㄒ玥и-
粄硂兵兵ㄒㄤ龟琌Τ惠璶и-
稰Τ翴框狙の堡ㄆ龟現┎р硂ンㄆ薄╈┑τ襖略ビ某纯и-
ボぃ骸礛τи-
フの粄硂稰и-
粄兵硂或璶兵ㄒ玂臔╬留㎝舦よㄤ龟痷Τゲ璶ミ猭㎝Νㄇ碞兵ㄒ秈︽╯
ぃ筁и-
癸瞷硂妓ミ猭Τ﹚種ǎ瘤礛纯竒Τㄇ吭高ゅン琌糵某兵ㄒτēごゼΤだ瞏┪Τ続讽丁ЧΘ┮惠и-
粄硂暗猭﹍沧琌筁瞯┮и-
︑パ囊癸兵ㄒぃボは癸и-
穦щ斌舦布и-
辨襖某秆の碙и-
︑パ囊硂稱猭程璶琌и-
Τ臮納и-
┤磅猭よ穦硑Θぃゲ璶磜▂τ旧璓紇臫獀斗基パи-
ゼだ獺硄筁兵ㄒぃ穦旧璓硂妓狦┮и-
ぃぉやи-
玱ぃ穦は癸
谅谅瞶畊
SECRETARY FOR SECURITY: Mr President, the Administration strongly opposes the Honourable James TO's Members' Bill.
Having carefully studied Committee stage amendments proposed by Mr James TO and the Honourable Albert HO, we find that the Bill, with or without the Committee stage amendments, would pose serious operational difficulties to our law enforcement agencies.
The proposals in the Bill and the Committee stage amendments have been drawn up without prior consultation with our law enforcement agencies. The implementation of the Bill would be prejudicial to the security of Hong Kong and would bring no benefit other than to criminals who will benefit from its flaws.
Some of the proposals in the Bill will increase privacy risks and they run against the recommendations of the Law Reform Commission in its report on privacy.
It is important that we should not rush into enacting a Bill in this area without the most extensive consultation of affected parties and careful scrutiny by a Bills committee of this Council.
Let me now set out for Honourable Members the main defects of this Bill and the proposed Committee stage amendments. First, Mr James TO has proposed a Committee stage amendment to remove "security of Hong Kong" as a ground for issuing an interception warrant. This would have serious and adverse consequences detrimental to the security of Hong Kong. Interception of communications is an important means for our law enforcement agencies to keep track of and take necessary preventive measures against activities which might pose a threat to the security of Hong Kong, such as the activities of terrorist groups.
In many overseas jurisdictions like Canada, the United States, Australia and New Zealand, security is one of the grounds for granting an interception warrant. It is also one of the grounds recognized under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, and Article 30 of the Basic Law which justifies interference by the relevant authorities with the exercise of the right to privacy.
Removing "security of Hong Kong" as a ground for interception will deprive our law enforcement agencies of an important tool to safeguard the security of Hong Kong.
Secondly, although Mr James TO has proposed Committee stage amendments to exclude from the Bill surveillance aspects, that is to say the recording of oral communication, it would still pose operational difficulties to law enforcement. The Bill does not provide exemption to cater for the operational need of law enforcement agencies to intercept certain radio communications for which it is impossible to specify the target and the radio spectrum, for example, for the purpose of detecting smuggling cases where criminals invariably use unlicensed telecommunications equipment. Neither does the Bill provide exemption for the routine operation of the Telecommunications Authority to intercept radio communication for detecting unlawful interference, some of which could affect the safety of life, for example, interference of aeronautical and navigation or landing aids.
Thirdly, by allowing only one renewal of an interception warrant, the Bill also poses practical difficulties to law enforcement. Although Mr James TO has proposed to extend the duration of warrant from 30 days to 60 days and Mr Albert HO has proposed to extend this to 90 days, the restriction allowing for only one renewal of the same duration will still affect long-term investigations into, for example, organized and serious crimes, where the interception operations are by their very nature necessarily protracted. It would mean that even if the continuance of an interception operation could yield crucial information leading to the detection of a serious crime, it has to stop on the expiry of the warrant if it has been renewed once.
Fourthly, apart from posing operational difficulties to law enforcement, the Bill also increases privacy risks in two important aspects. It allows intercepted material to be used as court evidence. This will entail public dissemination of personal information and is recommended against by the Law Reform Commission. It will, of course, also have the undesirable effect of revealing our law enforcement capabilities to intended criminals.
Although the Committee stage amendments proposed by Mr Albert HO would remove the privacy risk arising from the original proposal to notify the target of interception following the termination of an interception operation, Mr James TO has proposed to introduce a new clause on remedies to allow persons aggrieved by an unlawful interception to apply for remedies through court proceedings. The Law Reform Commission has examined this issue and concluded that this is not a preferable course of action. For one thing, the aggrieved person would invariably have an impossible task to secure enough evidence to prove that he has been a victim to an unlawful interception. Moreover such civil proceedings would inevitably involve the disclosure of sensitive information related to the interception operation, thereby increasing privacy risks, just as in the case of admitting intercepted material as evidence in criminal proceedings.
In order to provide effective remedies for aggrieved persons, the Law Reform Commission recommends the setting up of an independent supervisory authority who may award compensation and at the same time help maintain public confidence in the system by keeping the warrant system under regular review. This course of action is not adopted in the Bill.
It is clear from the above that it is not in the public interest to pass this Bill. While the Administration fully acknowledges that the regulation of interception of
communications is an area of understandable public concern, it must be recognized that this is a complicated area with wide-ranging implications. It is important to ensure that legislation on this area strikes the right balance between the protection of privacy and the justifiable needs of law enforcement agencies for
an effective tool to combat crime and to safeguard the security of Hong Kong.
To this end, we are working hard to examine the various issues raised in response to our consultation exercise on the Administration's White Bill on the Interception of Communications in February this year. We believe the proper way forward is for the Administration to press ahead with its work with a view to
resolving all the outstanding issues as quickly as possible. Meanwhile, it would not be practicable to introduce a Bill into the current Legislative Council.
Mr James TO's Members' Bill, drawn up without prior consultation with the law enforcement agencies, is entirely unworkable and the Administration will not be able to bring it into operation. It would be irresponsible to rush through legislation on this area especially since the change to an entirely new system is involved. In other jurisdictions, changes of this nature take years to work out and to reach a broad consensus on the sensitive aspect of law enforcement. It would be reckless to pass legislation which would deprive our law enforcement agencies of a useful tool to safeguard the security of Hong Kong.
Nor would it be helpful to introduce changes hastily if the result was that our law enforcement capability against serious crimes, such as drugs trafficking, kidnapping and money laundering, were seriously jeopardized. The effect of Mr James TO's Members' Bill would be detrimental to the security of Hong Kong. It would also have an adverse impact on our common efforts to maintain Hong Kong as one of the safest cities in the world with an enviably high detection rate.
For these reasons, we urge Honourable Members to vote against the Bill.
Let me make one last point abundantly clear. If the Bill were passed today, the Administration will have no option but to seek to repeal it as soon as possible thereafter. Thank you, Mr President.
襖略ビ某瞶畊и临Τぶ丁
PRESIDENT'S DEPUTY15だ牧You do not have to use all your 15 minutes.
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現┎狦弧猭琌⊿Τだ吭高杠ㄤ龟琌岿︙㎡и-
玂ㄆ叭〆穦穦某い現┎ョ盢ㄤ種ǎ笷иョ獺現┎у蝶и兵ㄒョぃ穦ぃ吭高牡よぃ穦ぃ吭高筁Τ闽磅猭场璝ぃ竒吭高τパ現叭ヴ︑︽级糶杠и痷┣莱赣﹚ぃ琌硂妓ヴパ︙糶ヴパㄤ场︙吭高糶ㄓ碞琌硂妓ョ糶ㄓи镑安砞场糶ㄓ現┎ㄆ龟耕иだ︙ゎκ┮莱赣琌场糶ㄓ
и莱現┎芠翴材ウ弧и﹚竡い闽翠よ郭Θ某腊Γ竒弧︙玊く某タいョΤ玂痙Τ闽翠场だ祔и辨畊璶―у镑碞材4B兵〆穦糵某顶琿タだ秨щ布ㄆ龟и穦㊣苸產は癸иタ硂妓镑玂翠场だ砛и秆睦︙и穦パ某"翠"τ瞷璶―產琵ㄤ玂痙は癸иタㄤ龟иσ納翴碞琌"翠"ㄆ龟痷惗莱畍そ穦璶―и辨盢ㄤΜㄇ睲贰ㄇ拜肈"翠"珹ㄒ現┎┮弧だ狦琌硂妓セ珹7镑菏窽竜︽ず弧┢だ┢︽竚紆‵狶瑀て猌猌单┢笆┮デ竜︽琌禬筁硂戳┮セ蹦ノ敖钮叛钮莱も琿
и-
ョσ納ㄒ現┎穦σ納ㄇ┮孔"は現┎︽"穦珹或㎡ㄤ龟иセ璹睲贰盢硄筁丁恳竜﹛よ玂盞猭spying㎝Τ闽竜︽ㄒ琌玵瓣玵癴┦竜︽︓腁滦и珹ずㄤ龟琌斗パ猭畑у┮и辨硂妓ㄓΜ翴τぃ琌硂ㄇ竜︽Τㄇ或暗翠拜肈иョσ納琂礛砛稼瓣產┪チ跋瓣產Τ盢瓣產珹ず瞷и-
猭ㄒョΤ摸兵ゅ﹍沧程ㄌ礛琌パ猭畑ㄓуτ猭э穦〆穦常琌砰觅Θ硂芠翴и谋眔硂芠翴既玥┮и盢穦硂妓暗
材Τ闽繷硄癟篒莱某璶―竒冈灿σ納и∕﹚砏﹚祔〆穦糵某顶琿矗タ猭э穦祔丁穦祇厨酵の硂よи辨ê現┎冈灿σ納硂よ拜肈
︓尿戳拜肈も╯澈┑筐㎝Τ戳拜肈и稰谅郭Θ某庢┮Τㄒㄒ30ぱ︙矪60ぱ90ぱ单ㄤ龟и┮弧瓣產┪跋ㄏ琌处祇丁恳┪︓瓣產拜肈┪︓は薄厨常琌ノ硂ㄇ夹非传ēぇ90ぱ90ぱи谋眔痷琌⊿猭┮и谋眔狦琌產粄琌60ぱ60ぱ獽やи狦粄琌90ぱ90ぱ獽や︙玊く某硂琘ㄇ種醚篈┪琘ㄇ芠翴辨糴肞ㄇ狦弧現┎フ兵ㄒず弧τ琌礚┑甶и痷螟稱钩狦┕猭畑ビ叫もΩ礛钡現┎阶沮碞弧ㄇ琌戳秸琩(long-term investigation)ρ龟弧琌敞辰妓┑甶癦ぃ琌戳秈︽ê或╯澈籔и-
┮孔舦╬留舦キ颗㎡и-
觅Θ硂妓兵ゅ㎡
よ碞琌ㄤ跋ㄆ龟琌ノ┮孔も戈方㎝磅猭瞯ㄓ癸ゑ拇敖钮礚阶ノ秈诀竟ㄆ龟斗ノㄓ秈︽狦弧叛钮90ぱ3るボ临ゼビ叫1Ω3る⊿Τ戈琌籔┮孔セ磅猭瞯ぃ才и-
牡Τ羆ぃ镑弧硂妓禣も瓣產跋常琌ノ瞶パ碞谋眔ぃ琌Τ笲ノョ⊿Τ琵磅猭场硂妓ㄓ敞辰妓庢ㄒ狦琌90ぱтㄇ帹ㄤ龟矗穝ビ叫︙㎡ㄆ龟ㄇ靡沮靡碞е璶Θ︙㎡ê180ぱ┪90ぱぇいΤ闽┮孔ヘ夹(target)莱赣秨﹍羛蹈秨﹍竒弧穞腹弧ユ翴妓臖蹿┪妓ゴ簀瘪逼单竒е璶Τ戈钡弧狝猭畑у90ぱㄆ龟ョ琌瞶㎝弧狝猭畑┮弧穦ぃ暗硂セ琌ぃēぇΘ瞶
現┎芠翴琌Τㄇ薄猵ぇ狦磅猭痷惠璶ㄇ戈τ绑靡沮硂よ現┎阶沮琌盢┮孔磅猭忌臩ㄓ
и谋眔硂ッ环常琌ベ庢ㄒ弧狦ノ"灧┏"秈︽戳穓栋戈耞ぃ穦猭畑忌臩灧┏ōだ靡竜デ︙㎡狦硂妓┮Τ獽琌灧┏帹セ獽耞獽玌粂┮孔"独"⊿Τ帹斑Τ硂兵竜癬禗狦弧ぃ琌灧┏ご礛ぃτノㄇ靡沮秈︽浪北琌灧┏獽ぃノご膥尿灧┏拜肈琌眖浪北à⊿Τ┏靡ㄑ╯澈琌ì镑矗癬禗┮硂阶沮セ琌螟钡Τㄤよ猭璶彼╯澈琌盢暗猭忌臩ㄓ临琌膥尿ノ硂よ猭穓栋靡沮㎡ㄇ┮孔秈мㄤ龟獶ノΩ獽ぃノ
瞶畊иョ稱ま瓃程絞ゅ彻琌Τ届级ゅ琌ぱ穦膀畊朝币﹙ネ糶絞ゅ彻琌у蝶碸﹚眃羆服у蝶材ンㄆ弧或琌チ羆服繦帽もヴ︙叛钮筿杠ョ獺ㄆ龟Τ坝烩砈籔癸ミ碞繦倒帽も獽倒叛钮筿杠Τ届硂у蝶琌ㄓ︑朝币﹙ネ筁┕痷у蝶羆服フ坝薄猵и谋眔硂琌は琈场だиョ常獺场だ坝某┪︓┮Τ︑礛玻ネ︑稰谋繦穓栋薄厨戈ぃ惠或瞶パ琌"in the interests of Hong Kong"︙﹚㎡⊿Τ琌糴肞ㄆ龟街ゴ阑ㄤ竒蕾癸も現獀癸も场硂妓暗
程蝗︽ョΤ厨硂妓弧稧竝Τ瞯舦暗眔癸は砱γ琌璶戈玻琌и-
璶痙種種惠璶Τ瞯㎝镑縒ミの菏诡眔硂妓Τ舦㎝硂妓Τ瞯稧竝玥杠盢ㄓи-
︽現狦痷璶垒舦盢稧竝坝穨竜秸琩靡菏穦祙叭Ы跑Θ盡現ㄣゴ阑現獀┪竒蕾癸も碞┢τㄤいも琿琌程璶笵癸もΤ或虏虫秨郎家俦ㄢ瞷猭ㄒ畉"in the interests of Hong Kong"獽场敖钮硂Τ┦垒ノ舦┮и玃叫︗某や硂兵兵ㄒぷㄤ琌弄ぇ砰〆穦糵某顶琿ㄆ龟и琌倒匡拒ぉ︗ㄆㄓは琈︑種醚篈は琈踞み︓祘τ匡拒粄続讽キ颗翴︙玊く某穦и矗碭翴耕放㎝琵˙狦谋眔ê琌и碙種ǎョ辨镑笷Θ计種現┎タ笻は翠舦猭兵ㄒ猭ㄒ
谅谅
1:55 am
贬155だ
THE PRESIDENT resumed the Chair.
畊確穦某
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill put and agreed to.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Bill read the Second time.
兵ㄒ竒筁弄
Bill committed to a Committee of the whole Council pursuant to Standing Order 43(1).
ㄌ沮穦某盽砏材43兵材(1)蹿砏﹚盢兵ㄒ〆ぉ砰〆穦糵某
Committee stage of Bill
兵ㄒ砰〆穦糵某顶琿
Council went into Committee.
セЫ秈砰〆穦糵某顶琿
INTERCEPTION OF COMMUNICATIONS BILL
篒硄癟兵ㄒ
Clauses 1 and 3
兵ㄒ材1の3兵
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材1の3兵タず甧更祇癳︗〆ゅンず
畊タ璶闽盢繷癸氮ē粂单癸杠┮篒硄癟传ēぇ安產や硂タ獽穦琌砏恨筿杠筿厨の秎ン单硄癟玱ぃ穦砏恨繷弧杠い┮篒繷硄癟ョぃ穦猭ㄒ絛瞅ず
и辨獺現┎硂よ穦種硂兜タㄆ龟硂琌現┎矗у蝶種ǎぇ
Proposed amendments
览某タず甧
Clause 1 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材1兵ǎンXXVII
Clause 3 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材3兵ǎンXXVII
Question on the amendments put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clauses 1 and 3, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材1の3兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clause 4
兵ㄒ材4兵
襖略ビ某璓勉畊材4(1)籔材1(4)兵澸琌闽タ碞琌盢"繷硄癟篒"ㄏㄤぃ穦Θ硂兵兵ㄒ絛瞅场だ
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 4(1) (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材4(1)兵ǎンXXVII
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clause 4(2)
兵ㄒ材4(2)兵
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材4(2)兵タず甧更祇癳︗〆ゅンず
タи┮弧иセ琌辨р"翠"ビ叫も瞶パ"腨竜︽"琌タи弄┮弧и㊣苸產は癸иタ璝產粄莱р硂"翠"腨竜︽﹚竡獽璶觅Θ玥璝產辨膥尿玂痙"翠"ビ叫も瞶パ獽莱赣は癸и︑既渡辨俱砰猭ㄒ硄筁и辨タи秆睦は癸赣某
畊ㄤ龟и琌ぃ矗иタ
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 4(2) (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材4(2)兵ǎンXXVII
CHAIRMAN: If you do not move the amendment, then there will be no amendment on the floor.
襖略ビ某癸ぃ癬и瞷㊣苸〆癸タщは癸布
郭Θ某畊チ粄莱赣玂痙"翠"ビ叫も瞶パ┮и㊣苸產は癸襖略ビ某硂タ
Question on the amendment put and negatived.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕綝∕
Question on clause 4, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材4兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clauses 5, 8, 9, 11 and 14
兵ㄒ材58911の14兵
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材58911の14兵タず甧更祇癳ぉ︗〆ゅンず
琵и秆睦Τ闽タ材8兵タΤ闽タㄤ龟籔材13の4兵材场だ盢"繷硄癟"ㄏ"繷硄癟"ぃ穦Θ硂兵ㄒ絛瞅场だ
材14兵琌洪м砃タиセ狡迭"筿癟兵ㄒ"ㄆ龟材14兵夹肈"heading"Τ"筿癟兵ㄒ"迭ずゅいΤ筿癟兵ㄒ硂迭琌狡и籔猭臮拜粄ゅい狡ノ迭Τ锚芠陇珿矗柬耿タτ獶龟借タ
Proposed amendments
览某タず甧
Clause 5 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材5兵ǎンXXVII
Clause 8 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材8兵ǎンXXVII
Clause 9 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材9兵ǎンXXVII
Clause 11 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材11兵ǎンXXVII
Clause 14 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材14兵ǎンXXVII
Question on the amendments put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clauses 5, 8, 9, 11 and 14, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材58911の14兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
〆穦畊 襖略ビ某の︙玊く某だ箇ボ览碞材6(4)の(8)兵笆某タ
セ畊某秈︽ㄖ臛阶ㄖ臛阶襖略ビ某の︙玊く某だ览碞材6(4)の(8)兵笆某ぇタ
〆穦畊 セ〆穦瞷秈︽ㄖ臛阶ㄖ臛阶襖略ビ某の︙玊く某だ览碞材6(4)の(8)兵笆某ぇタセ畊穦叫襖略ビ某笆某タ琌璽砫セ兵ㄒぇ某
Clause 6
兵ㄒ材6兵
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材6(4)の(8)兵タず甧更祇癳ぉ︗〆ゅンず
畊硂琌闽もΤ戳иセ某琌30ぱ30ぱ尿烩Ω┑戳иョ把σㄇ某㎝ㄇиΜ種ǎ30ぱ穦び祏のΤㄇ跋琌30ぱΤㄇ跋玥琌60ぱΤㄇ跋玱琌90ぱ-
玃叫иぃい眅ぇ笵匡拒60ぱ穦耕铆Тиσ納筁ぇ钡硂種ǎ琌и矗盢30ぱэ60ぱ传杠弧琌30ぱ30ぱ跑Θ60ぱ60ぱ
パΤぃ種醚篈產璝や︙玊く某祔矗90ぱ90ぱ某獽璶は癸иタи谋眔瞷顶琿ㄓ弧60ぱ60ぱ琌い眅ぇ笵瘤礛硂钩琌禦垫某基產斗σ納よ磅猭惠璶斗納玂種ǎиσ納┮Τ種ǎ谋眔60ぱ60ぱ琌程続讽
и辨產︑瞶秆㎝種腀ㄓщ布チ囊穦癸60ぱ60ぱщ觅Θ布
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 6 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材6兵ǎンXXVII
〆穦畊セ畊瞷叫︙玊く某碞襖略ビ某矗ぇタのㄤセōぇ览某タ祇ē埃獶襖略ビ某ぇタ綝∕玥セ畊ぃ穦叫︙某笆某タ襖某ぇタ莉∕ボ︙玊く某ぇ览某タぃ莉硄筁
︙玊く某璓勉畊и辨ㄆ襖略ビ某タиセタの兵ㄒ兵ゅ硂3兜匡拒匡ㄤ3兜琌
谅谅畊
郭Θ某璓勉и-
辨產や90ぱ90ぱ璶琌Τㄢ
材и-
祔穦盢ビ叫もㄤい兜瞶パ 腨竜︽ タΤㄇ腨竜︽龟惠璶耕丁盎琩珿斗ビ叫耕丁叛钮の敖钮и-
"翠"拜肈安璝Τㄇ瞣疉翠薄猵莱倒ぉ耕丁ぉ秸琩
材ㄤ龟猭э穦纯癚阶赣拜肈ウ某ウ羆挡粄ňゎ竜のそ渤τ帽祇もΤ戳﹚90ぱ琌ì镑τ帽祇もΤ戳莱璝ㄤ挡阶90ぱ琌続讽のì镑現┎у蝶30ぱ琌︽ぃ硄и-
被現┎糒ぺ┮匡拒琿耕丁ㄤ龟и-
硂よ阶翴程眏┮и辨產は癸襖略ビ某タや︙玊く某タτ硂翴ぃ穦砆現┎は婚弧и-
龟琁琿硂或祏丁猭э穦種ǎ獶и-
阶翴穦跑眔耕畓и辨產は癸襖略ビ某タや︙玊く某タ
谅谅
Question on the amendment put and negatived.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕ぃ莉眔硄筁
〆穦畊パ襖略ビ某碞材6(4)の(8)兵笆某ぇタ綝∕セ畊瞷叫︙玊く某碞材6(4)の(8)兵笆某タ
︙玊く某璓勉畊и笆某タ材6(4)の(8)兵タず甧更祇癳ぉ︗〆ゅンず
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 6 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材6兵ǎンXXVII
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某秈˙タ材6兵タず甧更祇癳ぉ︗〆ゅンず
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 6 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材6兵ǎンXXVII
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clause 6, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材6兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clause 7
兵ㄒ材7兵
〆穦畊 襖略ビ某の︙玊く某だ箇ボ览碞材7(3)(5)(6)の(7)兵笆某タ
セ畊某秈︽ㄖ臛阶ㄖ臛阶襖略ビ某の︙玊く某だ览碞材7(3)(5)(6)の(7)兵笆某ぇタ
〆穦畊 セ〆穦瞷秈︽ㄖ臛阶ㄖ臛阶襖略ビ某の︙玊く某だ览碞材7(3)(5)(6)の(7)兵笆某ぇタセ畊穦叫襖略ビ某笆某タ琌璽砫セ兵ㄒぇ某
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材73(3)(5)(6)の(7)兵タず甧更祇癳ぉ︗〆ゅンず
琵и秆睦兵ゅ某狦琌篒硄癟┮莉眔戈90ぱずごぃ浪北┪ㄏノ杠碞穦綪反┪反防穦硄ê纯綝叛钮︙纯砆钮筁の蝴
и瞷タ碞琌σ納ㄇ某㎝刮砰種ǎ粄牡よΤ礚斗ミㄨ反防êㄇ敖钮ㄓ戈硂ㄇ戈らΤ惠璶ㄑㄇ秸琩ぇノ琌闽ン┪惠璶盢êㄇ靡沮玂痙琿丁皌ㄤㄇ盎琩よタ現┎┮弧狦硄ê︗砆敖钮Τ闽ンご惠璶敖钮︽笆┪砛さΩぃ琌敖钮τ琌敖钮囊ヘ夹獽笵牡よタ盎琩琘ㄇン礛硄囊琌敖钮琌畕骋礚┮Τ磅猭斗猭畑ビ叫琌ぃ璶ミ反防竒敖钮ヒ靡沮临Τぃ璶硄ヒ纯砆敖钮琌斗秈˙蹦琘ㄇ︽硂琌и矗タ
иョ秆睦︙玊く某タ碞琌穦硄砆敖钮祘琌礚阶︙狦や︙玊く某硂猭ㄒず碞ぃ硄砆敖钮纯砆敖钮琌︓穦反防êㄇ靡沮︙玊く某ご礛穦タ磅猭Τ丁猭畑ビ叫琵êㄇセ敖钮ㄓ硄癟礚斗砆綪反τ猭畑ョ穦﹚琘丁惠璶┪ぃ惠璶綪反庢ㄒ弧ㄒ讽Ыタ秈琩﹙ン猭畑﹚琘﹙ン秸琩Ч拨ぇ獽璶綪反硄癟┪﹚琘丁秈︽琘る┪戳讽礛硂琌跌磅猭︙弧狝猭畑σ納╬留の磅猭斗蛤秈︽笆磅猭礛キ颗ぇτ∕﹚
и碞ㄢ匡拒秆睦辨倒產把σи︑チ囊谋眔砏﹚ゲ斗硄ê砆盎琩琌耕铆Т暗猭或㎡讽璶秈︽硄砆琩祘磅猭琌矗は癸-
猭畑ビ叫瞶パ︙ぃ惠璶硄讽ㄆ硂ㄆ龟穦Τキ颗翴碞琌狦痷Τ惠璶ぃ硄ê磅猭琌弧狝猭畑镑硄ê砆敖钮ㄆ龟ョ镑皌祔и盢穦矗穦Τチㄆ禗砠诀狦谋眔硂敖钮τ﹠碞Τㄇ靡沮㎝Τ牟祇翴矗禗砠硂ョ琌現┎┪猭э穦у蝶ぇ矪狦Τ矗チㄆ禗砠祘诀琌êセ⊿Τ快猭镑莉眡纯砆敖钮┪⊿Τ快猭眔砆敖钮靡沮杠セ琌礚猭矗禗砠┮Τチㄆ禗砠祘⊿Τノ
皌辨產镑やи瞷矗タ
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 7 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材7兵ǎンXXVII
〆穦畊セ畊瞷叫︙玊く某碞襖略ビ某矗ぇタのㄤセōぇ览某タ祇ē埃獶襖略ビ某ぇタ綝∕玥セ畊ぃ穦叫︙某笆某タ襖某ぇタ莉∕ボ︙玊く某ぇ览某タぃ莉硄筁
︙玊く某璓勉襖略ビ某竒и秆睦иタず甧珿иョぃ狡狦︗ㄆぃや襖略ビ某タ玥叫產やиタ谅谅
郭Θ某璓勉畊チ㊣苸產は癸襖略ビ某タや︙玊く某タ璶琌瞷ビ叫も瞶パΤㄢ兜ㄤ琌腨竜︽盎琩㎝ňゎ材琌翠拜肈璝讽Ы璶ビ叫も斗パ蔼单猭皘猭﹛σ納瓃┮Τ礛∕﹚帽祇も叛钮︽笆琌翠痲τ癸禜硄盽琌ㄇ產ぃ辨-
︽笆穦瘆胊翠獀
讽Ы秈︽瓃叛钮︽笆琌莱赣硄ヘ夹砆叛钮瞶阶琌Τ莉眡纯砆叛钮舦┮莱赣硄琌硄砆叛钮狦穦ㄏêㄇ羙硂穦囊笵現┎磅︽ヴ叭-
Τㄤ︽笆獽発磷牡よ┪磅猭︽笆獽穦玠畓磅猭蝴臔翠獀璶ヴ叭
硂薄猵и㊣苸產璶キ颗σ納瓃やぃノ硄ヘ夹暗猭タ┮瓃ㄢσ納琌キ颗耞
и辨產谋眔и硂弧猭瞶は癸襖略ビ某タや︙玊く某タ谅谅
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и稱虏祏莱ㄤ龟郭Θ某芠翴琌ぃノ踞み或㎡иタずㄆ龟琌Τ诀讽猭皘ゼ硄砆叛钮猭皘琌硄磅猭τ磅猭琌ビ叫传杠弧琌êヘ夹﹟ゼ笵τ磅猭玥弧狝猭畑︙ぃ莱赣硄ㄒи-
ョΤ瞶パ獺瘤礛さΩ叛钮い⊿Τ祇瞷ヴ︙竜︽琌и-
Τ絋ち瞶パ庢靡沮猭皘獺Τ闽琌琘ㄒ┢だΘ郭Θ某┮弧ヘ夹跑眔羙薄猵ぃㄆ龟猭畑沮硂ㄇ瞶パτぃ硄讽ㄆиョま瓃ㄤ龟瓣猭いョ蹦硂˙艼琌璶硄ぃ筁猭皘Τ舦σ納磅猭瞶パビ叫ぇτ∕﹚礚斗硄硂ョ琌キ颗拜肈
Question on Mr James TO's amendment to clause 7(3), (5), (6) and (7) put.
襖略ビ某碞材7(3)(5)(6)の(7)兵笆某ぇタぇ某肈竒窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羘∕
THE CHAIRMAN said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
〆穦畊ボ
CHAIRMAN: Committee shall proceed to a division.
CHAIRMAN: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on the question that the amendment to clause 7(3), (5), (6) and (7) moved by Mr James TO be approved. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
CHAIRMAN: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Eric LI, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr LO Suk-ching, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the amendment.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU and Mr Howard YOUNG abstained.
THE CHAIRMAN announced that there were 26 votes in favour of the amendment and 19 votes against it. He therefore declared that the amendment was carried.
〆穦畊ガ觅Θタ26は癸19琌ガタ莉∕
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某秈˙タ材7兵タず甧更祇癳ぉ︗〆ゅンず
畊и斗虏虫秆睦睲贰硂场だタセ琌兜м砃タセ惫勉琌"斗苦赣靡沮"畍そ穦矗種ǎボ"苦赣单靡沮"┪"ㄏノ赣单靡沮"ゼ镑睲贰莱赣э"盢赣单靡沮ㄆ禗砠い绑"穦耕睲贰硂琌м砃┦タ矗э到硂陪﹚琌ㄆ禗砠ぃ穦琌チㄆ禗砠
畊и略朝勉
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 7 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材7兵ǎンXXVII
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clause 7, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材7兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Clause 2
兵ㄒ材2兵
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某タ材2兵ぃ珹腨竜︽泊﹚竡タず甧更祇癳ぉ︗〆ゅンず硂兜タ籔耕Ν玡材1兵材3の材4兵材(1)场だ单常琌Τ闽р繷硄癟ㄏ繷硄癟ぃ兵ㄒ瞇籠絛瞅ぇず
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 2 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材2兵ǎンXXVII
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
︙玊く某璓勉畊и笆某タ材2兵ず"腨竜︽"﹚竡タず甧更祇癳倒︗〆ゅンず
畊иタ琌盢兵ㄒい"腨竜︽"﹚竡﹚Τ舱麓の腨竜︽兵ㄒい竜︽"翠玂"瞶パ硂ㄢ翴э跑或碞琌ヴ︙Τデ竜︽璝砆Τ竜杠盢穦砆夯ぃぶ7
穝璹﹚竡ㄤ龟籔現┎矗フ兵ㄒず甧妓и辨ㄆ镑やиタ狦иタア毖辨產や兵ㄒ
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Clause 2 (See annex XXVII)
兵ㄒ材2兵ǎンXXVII
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и辨產や︙玊く某硂兜タ┪砛и秆睦︙иパセ矗いΤ舱麓の腨竜︽兵ㄒ┮﹚竡竜︽э辨產や︙玊く某矗7┪菏窽某
ㄆ龟и粄Τ舱麓の腨竜︽兵ㄒ结ぉ讽Ы兜疭盎琩舦и獺畒Τ︗某纯把憨穦某ㄢ丁糵某赣兵猭ㄒи-
睲贰硋兜筁êㄇ痷Τ舱麓の腨竜︽τ絋龟粄惠璶Τㄇ肂盎琩舦
и猭狦琵敖钮叛钮ㄤ龟琌疭㎝璶秸琩舦ノㄤ龟琌膀娄讽礛現┎フ兵ㄒい﹚竡跑Θ7┪菏窽ㄆ龟竒и硋兜硋兜琩癸現┎続ノ絛瞅7┪菏窽ㄤ龟临Μ传杠弧狦ノ觅Θ︙玊く某兵ㄒㄆ龟临Μ﹚竡︙Τ舱麓の腨竜︽兵ㄒ┮竜︽Τㄇセぃ惠璶7┪菏窽
安拜и種醚篈渡硂拜肈и粄7┪菏窽讽礛琌﹚惠璶丁產礚斗踞みΤ"security of Hong Kong"Τㄇ竜︽痷籔翠ц闽玒秈︽叛钮и矗Τ闽材4(2)兵タ綝∕и㊣苸產∕и硂兜タㄏ"翠"场だ眔玂痙ㄆ龟ぃ璶踞み7┪菏窽ス絋﹚獽穦Μ︓祘磅猭礚猭︽笆璓翠紇臫ㄆ龟硂贺薄猵ぃ穦祇ネ
и某︗ㄆや︙玊く某タ狦產は癸硂タê獽穦跑Θ兵ゅ莉眔硄筁ㄏ產ぃ钡
郭Θ某璓勉畊チや︙玊く某タр腨竜︽﹚竡7戳戳襖略ビ某矗Τ舱麓の腨竜︽兵ㄒ暗猭琌把σ瓣㎝暗猭猭э穦纯癚阶赣拜肈挡阶琌"挪硂贺よΑ璶―Τ闽よぃ耞糤搭竜︽は琈讽薄猵и-
ぃ览蹦ノ硂贺暗猭"-
竒筁獶盽冈灿σ納獶盽闽猔硂拜肈-
厨い眔挡阶程某琌"腨竜︽莱赣琘兜竜︽程蔼戳ㄓ﹚"現┎フ兵ㄒい矗7戳﹚
碞さぱτēи-
ê兵ㄒごゼΘミタΑ兵ㄒ〆穦糵某и-
磷籔現┎╉阶翴τ蹦現┎﹚竡琌現┎獽ぃ弧杠τ眏и-
阶翴┮и㊣苸產や︙玊く某
谅谅
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Question on clause 2, as amended, put and agreed to.
竒タ兵ㄒ材2兵ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
〆穦畊襖略ビ某パ︙玊く某碞材2兵ず"腨竜︽"ぇ﹚竡矗ぇタ莉∕ボ籔"腨竜︽"ぇセ﹚竡Τ闽ぇ材10兵のぃ莉∕材10兵の穦眖兵ㄒい珿ぃ碞材10兵の笆某タ
Part IVA Heading
材IVA场夹肈
New clause 7A
穝璹兵ㄒ材7A兵Safeguards for Intercepted Material
砆玂毁
Safeguards
玂毁Part VA Heading
材VA场夹肈
New clause 8A
穝璹兵ㄒ材8A兵Remedies
干毕ㄆ﹜
Remedies
干毕ㄆ﹜Heading before New clause 13A
穝璹材13A兵ぇ玡夹肈
New clause 13A
穝璹兵ㄒ材13A兵Post Office Regulations
秎現竝砏ㄒ
Regulation amended
璹砏ㄒNew clause 13B
穝璹兵ㄒ材13B兵Penalty for contravention of order under section 33
笻は沮材33兵┮㏑籃玥
Clauses read the First time and ordered to be set down for Second Reading pursuant to Standing Order 46(6).
兵ㄒ兵ゅ竒筁弄ㄌ沮穦某盽砏材46兵材(6)蹿砏﹚㏑逼弄
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某弄穝璹材7A兵ぇ玡材IVA场夹肈穝璹7A兵穝璹8A兵玡VA场夹肈穝璹材8A兵穝璹材13A兵ぇ玡夹肈の穝璹13Aの13B兵ず甧更祇癳ぉ︗〆ゅンず
畊и硂Τ碭翴琵и虏虫量量材材IVA场だ琌Τ闽篒戈玂毁传ēぇ篒戈筁祘ず╯澈莱︙玂毁Τ闽砆篒舦痲硂ий魁現┎フ兵ㄒ祅舅厨и兵ㄒ祅礛祅現┎フ兵ㄒи祇谋現┎兵ㄒ硂场だ琌讽材ウ笵ㄏノΤ闽戈╯澈琌竒臮の┮孔程玥êㄇ惠璶┸臩砆篒戈琌程玥の琌笷程ぶ镑笵程玥ㄒ竒快牡叭单镑笵硂ㄇ戈程祘琌Τ硂ㄇ戈┮莉戈琌砆й魁┪计捌セ狦Τ闽戈礚斗ノΤ闽ノ硚ㄒㄆ禗砠┪盎琩单程琌肚綷┪瑈硄捌セ计秖程ぶのΤ闽篒戈璶荷е反防иビиタ琌й現┎フ兵ㄒ
材VA场夹肈矗の干毕ㄆ﹜硂琌Τ闽и┮弧狦琘痷谋眔︑舦痲獻デ猭畑矗チㄆ禗砠珹嘿Τ闽篒硄癟琌笻猭の璶―﹚ㄇ竭纕㎝窽Α窽ゎΤ闽叛钮Τ闽禗砠斗祇瞷叛钮6ぇず矗硂场だи琌把σ緿瑆猭ㄒ︓材13A兵ぇ玡夹肈13A兵籔13B兵琌ㄇм砃タ
セ略朝勉
Question on the Second Reading of the clauses proposed, put and agreed to.
兵ㄒ兵ゅ弄ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕莉硄筁
Clauses read the Second time.
兵ㄒ兵ゅ竒筁弄
襖略ビ某璓勉畊и笆某兵ㄒ莱糤干穝璹材7A兵ぇ玡材IVA场夹肈ぃ睲贰穝璹材7A兵穝璹材8A兵ぇ玡材IVA场夹肈穝璹材8A兵穝璹材13A兵ぇ玡夹肈の穝璹材13Aの材13B兵
Proposed additions
览某糤干
Part IVA Heading and new clause 7A (See annex XXVII)
材IVA场夹肈の穝璹兵ㄒ材7A兵ǎンXXVII
Part VA Heading and new clause 8A (See annex XXVII)
材VA场夹肈の穝璹兵ㄒ材8A兵ǎンXXVII
Heading before new clause 13A and new clause 13A (See annex XXVII)
穝璹材13A兵ぇ玡夹肈の穝璹兵ㄒ材13A兵ǎンXXVII
New clause 13B (See annex XXVII)
穝璹兵ㄒ材13B兵ǎンXXVII
Question on the addition of the Part IVA Heading before new clause 7A, new clause 7A, Part VA Heading before new clause 8A, new clause 8A, Heading before new clause 13A, new clauses 13A and 13B proposed, put and agreed to.
糤干穝璹材7A兵ぇ玡材IVA场夹肈穝璹材7A兵穝璹材8A兵ぇ玡材VA场夹肈穝璹材8A兵穝璹材13A兵ぇ玡夹肈の穝璹材13Aの13B兵ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕莉硄筁
Long title
冈肈
襖略ビ某畊и笆某糤干いゅセタ冈肈タず甧更祇癳ぉ︗〆ゅンず
Proposed amendment
览某タず甧
Long title (See annex XXVII)
冈肈ǎンXXVII
Question on the amendment put and agreed to.
タぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
Council then resumed.
砰〆穦繦τ確ミ猭Ы
Third Reading of Bill
兵ㄒ弄
MR JAMES TO reported that the
襖略ビ某厨孔
INTERCEPTION OF COMMUNICATIONS BILL
篒硄癟兵ㄒ
had passed through Committee with amendments. He moved the Third Reading of the Bill.
竒タ硄筁砰〆穦糵某顶琿笆某弄瓃兵ㄒ
Question on the Third Reading of the Bill proposed and put.
兵ㄒ弄ぇ某肈竒矗某繦窖∕
Voice vote taken.
钮羗羘∕
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
畊ボ
Mr IP Kwok-him claimed a division.
腑瓣辆某璶―翴∕
PRESIDENT: Council shall proceed to a division. Next time, yell.
畊毒浪膀某
毒浪膀某и钮掉∕
PRESIDENT: I am ordering a division.
畊竒琌程兵兵ㄒ礚Ω┮秈︽翴∕⊿Τ闽玒τ玂痙魁渤
PRESIDENT: As I said, when you want to claim a division, you have to stand up and yell.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on the Third Reading of the Interception of Communications Bill be approved. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Frederick FUNG, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr NGAI Shiu-kit, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr CHENG Yiu-tong, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr David CHU, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LEE Kai-ming, Mr LO Suk-ching and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
Mr Allen LEE, Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr LAU Wong-fat, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU and Mr Howard YOUNG abstained.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 31 votes in favour of the motion and 15 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
畊ガ觅Θ某31は癸15琌ガ某莉硄筁
Bill read the Third time and passed.
兵ㄒ竒弄硄筁
VALEDICTORY MOTION
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DR LEONG CHE-HUNG to move the following motion:
"That this Council bids farewell to the British Government and wishes the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region continued stability and prosperity."
DR LEONG CHE-HUNG: Mr President, I move the motion under my name as printed in the Order Paper.
In a few days' time, Hong Kong will face an unprecedented change which no other place has witnessed before the end of colonial rule; not a return to self government but a transfer of sovereignty. The Union Jack will be replaced by the Chinese national flag. To the majority of Hong Kong people, it is time for jubilation, for as Chinese, few would not be glad of returning to the motherland. To some, there is still a sense of gloom, the uncertainty of a capitalist system operating within a communist rule will not be dismissed with the glamour of the fireworks on 1 July.
To this Council, today marks the last session of a legislature under a colonial government of more than 150 years. It is an emotional session. Emotional not only because it means an end of an era, but it is also a time to bid farewell to some of our colleagues who could not ride the through train they are victims of the Sino-British squabble. Let us hope that they will continue to speak for the people of Hong Kong. Let us hope that they will return to join the ranks in this Chamber in the nearest possible future.
Emotional aside, Mr President, we bid adieu to the British Government, as representative of the Hong Kong people, it is not only a time for reminiscence, but also a time to take stock of the past, the do's and do not's of the 150-plus years of history. It is a time to gather our experience and plan for the prosperity and stability of the new government ahead.
Mr President, as the Chairman of the House Committee, I am grateful for the privilege of moving this motion. I would therefore like to kick off this motion in the following directions: the trials and tribulations of British rule; valedictory remarks of Members and others related to this Council; and finally trains of thought of the best way for the future.
Legacy left by the British Rule
Mr President, it is no magic that Hong Kong was transformed from a barren rock to one of the most advanced metropolis. Much owes to the ingenuity of the people of Hong Kong. Much owes to the opportunities offered by the changes and development of our motherland. Yet the contributions and the tribulations of the British to Hong Kong in nurturing it through the last 150-plus years must not be forgotten and dismissed!
The active non-interventional policy within a framework of rule of law forms perhaps the best basin for culturing the economic success that Hong Kong enjoys today.
The rule of law in Hong Kong as executed by a second to none independent judiciary underpins the confidence of not only local but international investors. All these the colonial government plays no small part.
Basic Livelihood Issues
Mr President, in any developing territory, the provisions of adequate housing, an efficient welfare scheme and a comprehensive health system are essential to keep the public satisfied.
Yes, the public housing policy may be said to be forced onto the Administration after the massive influx of migrants from China and the disastrous Shek Kip Mei fire in the 1950s when some 50 000 are left homeless. Yes, the Government still lags behind in the development of adequate public housing. Yet few could dispute that the policy and the development so far deserve a good pass.
Yes, the public is still calling for a higher, a more comprehensive welfare deal for the elderlies. Yet even in the presence of an enormous financial surplus, one has to accept a proper balance between what is welfare and what is a welfare state.
It would be difficult for me not to say a few words on health. From a rock heavily infested with all sorts of infectious diseases to a port free of epidemic is no easy matter when over 6.5 million people are concentrated in a few parts of this just over 1 000 sq km in this territory. My praise goes to the forefathers in health care for their efforts and foresight. Yet with civilization comes the health problems of social advancement. Much therefore needs to be done. We are grateful that the British brought in the science and technology of western medicine on which we can build our health blocks.
Pitfalls in the British Rule
But are there no pitfalls in the British rule? Could the British have done better?
Mr President, it has frequently been said that Hong Kong people are politically inert. This may well be so, but how much is this the result of the colonial style of education that the Government has imparted to the people of Hong Kong; an education which produces perhaps good, law abiding citizens, no doubt but also an education system that dampens the mind for independent thinking; an education system that imparts the gospel of "the Government knows best, do not question it".
Regrettably, Hong Kong people have never been given the taste of administrative participation. For more than 100 years, the concept of democracy, the concept of having people with the public's mandate to decide on policies for themselves, has never been put into the Hong Kong soil. And if it is not for the imminent transfer of sovereignty, Hong Kong people may still be in the era of "father knows best". Yet, regrettably, even with the chance some 10 years ago for granting Hong Kong people a faster step towards representative government, this was truncated. Should history be re-written otherwise, we would now have perhaps a smoother road towards Hong Kong people ruling Hong Kong.
Efficient Civil Service
Perhaps the greatest legacy that the British rule have left for Hong Kong is a system of civil service. Nevertheless, it takes both a song and a singer to make things work.
Mr President, few would doubt that we have an unsurpassable civil service in this world efficient, politically neutral. On behalf of the House, I salute them. In the last few years, life has not been easy for them they have to take full responsibility without the public's mandate; they have to remain apolitical yet having to continuously lobby and satisfy the unsatiable needs of the Members of this Council.
My praise in particular goes to the head of the civil service, but unfortunately she is not here tonight, the Honourable Mrs Anson CHAN. For some two years, I have worked closely with her acting as a bridge between the Administration and this legislature. The initial feeling was that of an iron lady who could not be budged. I was wrong, for under the no nonsense look is a devoted Hong Kong belonger who is willing to listen, yet firm on her commitment, and more importantly, who delivers what she agrees.
Valedictory to Legislative Council Colleagues
Talking about the legislature, Mr President, brings me home to this Chamber and this body.
Mr President, time would not allow me to sing in praise of each and every colleague although I would have gladly done so. Mr President, suffice it to say that I have the fullest respect to all of them. Many have neglected their personal work, their family and their health to dedicate to the work of this Council. The many bills that we have gone through, the areas we have diligently monitored government policies so bear witness.
Mr President, I was asked which Member I would like to work with most. With no intention of "scratching your back", Mr President, I have voted you. As the first elected member to be elected President, you have done a job that commands full marks. You have been fair, unbiased and adhered strictly to the rules that your position demands of you. But it is on the same reason I stated that you, Mr President, is the person that I hate to work with most. You know the rules too well, and you smoke too much to the detriment of your own health and the health of those in this Council.
The Honourable Ronald ARCULLI, my Vice Chairman of the House deserves my special praise, for he is the kingpin behind the many bills we have gone through and in particular the many and heavy subsidiary legislations that have been perpetually loaded on his shoulder.
Mr President, this House would not have done its duty if we have not saluted the Secretariat. They are the unsung heroes, the bumble bees that supported our work and you, Mr President, as Queen Bee. I would have called you King Bee, but there is no such term.
What about our last Governor? Well, he is not exactly a Member of this Council, although he has been a frequent visitor at his pleasure and to our delight. As I said in his last Question Time, whether he has done good or otherwise to Hong Kong, history will be a witness. Yet no doubt he has brought in a new culture as the Chief Executive of Hong Kong and he has instigated a more open and transparent government. These must be commitment to the people of Hong Kong to which we should be grateful. This Council bids him and his family bon voyage.
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Question on the motion proposed.
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MR MARTIN LEE: Mr President, of course we are all thinking "back", so let me begin with one of Shakespeare's sonnets. "When to the sessions of sweet silent thought ...... I summon up remembrance of things past, I sigh the lack of many a thing I sought democracy, and with old woes new wail, my dear, time's waste." The time is wasted when Bills were withdrawn by the Government.
I wonder what our friends up in China will think of this session, the marathon session, when the last Government Bill was entitled "Dogs and Cats Bill", or "Dogs and Cats (Amendment) Bill 1996". I am sure our Chinese friends will say, "there you are, the Governor is always thinking of his dogs."
Mr Speaker, you always try to be fair and keep the proceedings going like a good referee should, but of course, some of us will not agree with some of your decisions, when you ruled on points of order, for example, or when you gave a red card to the Honourable LEUNG Yiu-chung for having insulted some unidentified grass in an unidentified vase. But, Mr President, I think we shall miss you because Mr Speaker, you will soon be succeeded by Madam Talker.
We are going to miss our friends in the Liberal Party. Whenever we voted together, 19 plus 10, we won every vote, did we not, Allen? I shall miss the Honourable Mrs Miriam LAU for having exempted the Honourable Ronald ARCULLI from the party line and allowing him to speak up for the Bar regarding honorary Queen's Counsels. I am sure our Party Whip, the Honourable SZETO Wah, would not have been so generous with me. But, we also saw some specimens tonight, or this morning, of poor filibustering on some of the Members' part, so I shall award them with the Worst Filibustering Party Award.
As for the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment of Hong Kong, they had some teething problems in the beginning but they soon matured very quickly into a well-organized party. The Honourable IP Kwok-him, of course, gained himself a reputation amongst civil servants of being the most feared chairman of any committee of enquiry. Even the Chief Secretary had to back down before him, so I award them with the Most Improved Party Award.
I now come to the Association for Democracy and People's Livelihood. They never had it so good, Mr President, as in the last two weeks. The Gang of Four controlled every vote. I still cannot figure out why their four is greater than my 19. In 1998, in those elections, I shall aim at having only four seats, but I shall try to get four seats or four Members to vote together and not three Members plus one abstention. I would award them with the Most Influential Small Party Award.
I now come to the Hong Kong Progressive Alliance, with two Members. The Honourable Ambrose LAU is always so serious and on any division is always voting against me, although we came from the same school. As for the Honourable David CHU, he is the proud owner of a Ferrari sports car and a Harley Davidson motorbike. The guy loves speed, Mr President, and excitement in everything except when it comes to democracy when he finds even a snail's pace to be too fast, and indeed he would eat the democratic snail as an escargot. I will award the Hong Kong Progressive Party by naming it the Least Progressive Party Award.
PRESIDENT: They have three members, Mr LEE, he is Mr CHOY Kan-pui.
MR MARTIN LEE: Ah, I beg your pardon. The Citizen's Party has been newly formed, but the question is, where are the citizens? There is only one the Honourable Miss Christine LOH, but how much was achieved by the party of one. I think we should look at the Victoria Harbour 10 years from now, it should be the same. So, I would give it the Most Powerful Party of One Award. Of course the Honourable Miss Margaret NG is not a party, otherwise I would have given it to her.
Now, I come to the Frontiers. Well, they do not call themselves a political party and I understand why. It is neither a party of five who could follow any party line, nor five parties of one each. But who cares so long as they keep voting with us? I am sorry, they will say, "no, we're voting with them." I will give them this award, the Party with the Largest Number of Leaders Award.
Now, Mr President, I will tell something which is true, but I shall avoid breaking the rule of using non-parliamentary language.
PRESIDENT: Unparliamentary.
MR MARTIN LEE: Unparliamentary. Some time ago the former British Ambassador to China, Sir Robin MCLAREN, came back to Hong Kong and I heard him over the radio saying "the Hong Kong people should wake up and be prepared to sacrifice 3% of their freedom so as to keep the other 97", and I got furious because I said "well, by that logic, I would have to sacrifice 50% of my freedom to keep the other 50, or even to sacrifice 97 of my freedom to keep the other three." When I repeated this the following day to a lunch meeting, there was this Englishman who heard me, and then he said, "b-lls". He said, "well, b-lls constitute 3% of my body weight and I am not going to sacrifice them for anything."
With that happy note, Mr President, I say goodbye to you, Mr President, and all my friends. God speed.
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某矗莱妓紋畊琌翠︑祇┦紋㎡Τㄇ厨笵弧獵常⊿Τ稰谋︓ぃ尺舧耴或穦硂妓㎡硂琌璣瓣岿琌い瓣現┎岿临и-
せκ窾岿㎡崔チ璶挡玡產莱赣躬籖秨みи-
ǐ筂俱崔チ玱ぃ硂ㄇ︑祇┦秨み紋и獺硂ンㄆ薄璣瓣莱赣璽砫ヴさΝ碞某臛阶某ョ弧и-
ぃ谋眔и-
琌讽產瘤礛Τㄇㄆ弧и-
琌讽產拜肈琌瞷み痷ご踞み
硂碭ぱ癘發拜и-
盢ㄓ妓и弧и-
﹚穦ミ砆╇盢ㄓ穦妓街穦綝笿ぃ代街幢弧﹚ぃ穦㎡弧ぃ稱讽礛產常ぃ稱计琍戳玡赋地ネ筿跌弧ぱ監炳盢ㄓぃ穦翠祇ネ或弧ぃ穦甧砛и钮弧杠痷纞铬ぃ穦甧砛い瓣玻囊羆癘化档锭ぃ磷ぱ監炳翠疭︽現跋︽現﹛玱ぃ甧砛ぷㄤ琌ぃ参烩翠瓁钉┮畊и辨︗ㄆ穦フ瘤礛產現ǎぃ產Τ踞みи-
辨產︑措笵︑よ猭暗ㄇㄆ薄チ踞みぃ穦龟瞷
Χギ棚某淋叫场だㄆ畊せる┏庢快と繺産穦璣ゅ琌弧"I told you so"祔﹚穦弧種琌弧或ㄆぃ穦祇ネ1-
┮Τ常璶ㄓ碔腞地皊┍箇璸或ㄆ常ぃ穦祇ネカチごΤ︑パ皑酚禲ち常⊿Τэ跑и弧и稱穦硂妓и-
и-
庢快ê産穦
и獺眖俱ンㄆい眔毙癡碞琌ㄆ薄琌璶и-
︑ΤΤ届杠Τㄇ弧パ400舱Θ崩匡〆穦崩匡羬ミ猭穦Τㄇ癸и弧ㄤ龟硂崩匡〆穦琌程Τ┦琌翠癴ㄓ抖讽礛иぃ種и﹚谋眔и-
硂ㄇパチ匡玻ネ某程Τ┦Τㄇи谋眔翠莱赣癬剑ㄤ龟畒ㄆ常Τ地и-
㊣苸璶硓筁-
措笵い瓣現┎弧杠и辨產ゼㄓ烦るい荷秖翠辨-
秨锰フи-
妓穦硂妓踞みи-
ぃ琌璶"佰癐"翠и-
痷Τи-
踞み硂ㄇョ琌Τ踞み
產ぃ璶╉и辨Χギ棚某┮砞と産產常秨秨みみ畊拜肈琌硂妓虏虫㎡或硂或瓣肚碈穦ΩΩ發拜盢ㄓ琌穦Τ拜肈㎡螟笵-
常琌浩┮畊иぃ穦は癸硂某ぃ筁иぃ稰放纳и-
常辨盢ㄓ翠璝и-
ぃи獺硂琌傍辨
畊и略朝勉
毒浪膀某璓勉畊иミ猭Ы竒6瞷璶弧ㄇ堡弧杠ㄤ龟痷琌Τㄇ稰磏ㄤ龟ネ⊿Τぶ6瘤礛瞷琿辅и辨羆挡︑眔ア贺牡抱╯澈и硂6讽い暗ㄇ或и辨虏虫庢碭ㄆㄒ硄盽и暗ㄆ薄常籔┬Τ闽玒竒筁8ぇ┬〆穦"┬〆穦"Θミ恏恨瞶吭高〆穦竒筁10┬〆穦Τ螟め搭現郸程и籔┬竝坝癚璹澜產畑秸綞現郸ネ㏑讽いぱ現郸Τぶ砛秈˙ㄤ龟и稰Τ翴礚ー礚の礚秖ㄤ龟иぃ筁琌現獀瞺琌筁祘龟琌σ喷產矮в產ぃ璶產瞺ずЫぇず祔и稰饥琌硂6ずи纯竒钡ǎ筁蒥チΤ闽拜肈珹┬の洛励褐单ㄤいせΘ拜肈琌眔秆∕狦钩担瓁┮弧璶ら︽到и辨и暗程璶―
и硂ㄇ丁眔琌硂Θ碞ㄤ龟иΤ翴ぃヌみи稰躬籖琌и粄ご斗膥尿ǐ膀糷隔帹㎝キ隔帹
┮ア琌或㎡Τ痷琌ē螟荷-
弧ㄆ碭礷穝硂6いЫずㄆ跑てよи粄菌ㄓ程璶跑て琌礚ぇも盿ǐ3︗ㄆ窜某眎挪瑄某の独篿某羆服碸﹚眃ネ現эよ盿ㄓ程チ匡某琌程控タ琌硂よミ猭Ы眖ぱ秨﹍┪眖るら秨﹍獽アуチ匡ㄆи谋眔獺硂Ы琌既┦ミ猭穦穦Τ礷穝禜︓硂6ㄓ跑て蠢穦琌琌胊и獺盢ㄓ菌︑Τそ阶
せㄓㄏи程好碽琌-
弧チの毒浪膀某オ穘耚稱瞏糷ㄤ龟硂痷琌オ穘耚オㄢ伐狠皚犁常Τ笆沮牧耚瞶阶禫ノ崩笆牧耚耚秖碞禫翠琌じて穦Τぃ獺├Τぃも猭Τぃ痲畉钵┮螟ぃ筁ベ盽Τさ玱疭τ常琌贺堵フ癸ミ薄猵ㄓ矪瞶拜肈某ぃ琌克い獽琌克璣ぃ琌кい獽琌碅ぃ徖︑パ禩獽琌禣と繺某璝ぃ縀秈и碞琌玂ㄤ龟硂ㄇ夹帽璉獺琌﹚璶蛤иǐぃ礛ぃ虫ゎぃ琌狟ねΘ寄
璝翠穦硂虏虫ㄤ龟甧快ㄆǐ伐狠穦牧耚碩オ穘耚硂娩碵弧さぱ硄筁或иぱ碞﹚эê娩碵弧拨澈穦эиさぱ獽荷秖暗硂妓┰┰ццㄤ龟程蒥チ穦眔痲㎡
チ礚囊礚熬и-
ぃ腀種ヴ︙皚犁и-
辨縒ミσㄆ阶ㄆ–ンㄆ薄︑о拒碞┪栋刮τēチ眖ゼ纯κだぇκや畒某┪現刮и-
獺畒┪刮砰ぃ穦κだぇκ蛤и-
妓稱猭┮и-
ぃ腀種ヘ琘皚犁璝痷璶琘皚犁靡チの毒浪膀某ミ初绊﹚ê或и圭腀膥尿砆絴иオ穘耚
チい瓣隔帹琌砆嘿オ穘耚揭肈螟笵い瓣Τㄢンㄆ薄琌簈箌琌у蝶ㄤ龟チ硈硂或虏虫は莱ぃ暗い瓣泊い翠ぃ莱眔竤局臔τр竤跌泊い皏チ辨い瓣Τ材摸钡牟い瓣現┎暗眔癸ㄆ薄и-
莱赣や暗眔ぃ癸и-
獽璶のк某и粄璶薄瞶琌程︑礛ぃ筁程チ︓ヘ玡ゎご琌翠刮砰い纯チ穦绑窥ㄤ礰患獺ㄊ刁笵┰绢肂畊锭矗к臛ユ场矗蒥チ玂臔敞辰帽
い瓣砛﹛村弧и-
ご币羛よの羬ミ猭穦Θミщは癸布せ獴ぃа癸琌獶チョぃ家絢μ篨ぇ琌き琍篨ぇョご琌Τи穦稰Τㄇ礹み弧и-
オ穘耚埃琌и-
癸も临Τㄇ纯籔и-
チ狟ねㄤ龟硂ㄏи羛稱ㄇΛ玡薄猵舦笴栏い寄иはτが苦玱⊿Τ綟﹡⊿Τ克玡辨и獺ベご穦膥尿Τи辨秨┹じてЫ產ョ縩伐承硑じてЫи辨硂某穦秨僚甧じゅてи獺硂碞璶產癌チ胔チ穦绊礚囊礚ㄆ阶ㄆǐ膀糷キ隔帹谅谅畊
MR DAVID CHU: Mr President, we are ready to bid the colony farewell with a sense of triumph, relief and anticipation. We are now finally on our own.
As a Chinese I am proud to see the closing of the colonial era which began with pain and which ends with pomp and pageantry. For a long time, our ancestors, ourselves and our children have been stared down at by the Queen's portrait. Her picture and other symbols of our subjugation have bred in us both an alien feeling and self contempt. The fault is not Her Majesty's, who personally shall remain a fond memory as we file away her visages to the scrapbook of our history.
We have inherited from the British many valued institutions, such as an independent judiciary, a professional civil service and the English language. These we are to retain and then to refine to suit our circumstances. There is a Chinese saying, "when we drink the water, we must think of its source".
Over recent years we have had a lot of unsolicited advice from Great Britain and the international community whose care and concern we thank. But we would like them to respect our ability to manage our own affairs and to do things our own way.
While we have much more to learn from the West, they too can learn much from us such as a profitable and efficient public transport system, universal health care at an affordable cost, welfare which does not destroy the work ethic or incentive, a crime rate among the lowest in the world, good education standards, individual responsibility, family value, and the freest economy.
For the last five years, we have had a loss of British and Chinese co-operation. None of the manufactured crises has dampened our enthusiasm for success and weakened our confidence in ourselves. No matter what the last British administration here has done, we bear no grudge for we are a forgiving people who always turn adversity into an advantage, a challenge into a cause.
Now is the time to turn over a new page and move on to deal with three critical tasks ahead. The first is to govern ourselves well with care and patience because what we have is a proven system and, with 50 or more years to refine, there is no need to rush. The second is to develop even more the mutually beneficial bond with China. The third, perhaps our most sacred mission of all, is to help China modernize and achieve its rightful place in the community of nations.
So let us see the weaknesses in ourselves but turn them into a spur for greatness.
Let us see the shortcomings of our society but turn them into a stimulus for prompt community actions.
Let us see the problems of our nation but turn them into a rallying point for our patriotism.
And together, let us anticipate the challenges of the 21st Asian Pacific century and be galvanized by them to reach for the stars.
Thank you, Mr President.
㏄辩睶┥某璓勉畊иミ猭Ыぃ竒ぃ谋讽禬筁15某ㄤい竒菌筁荒并璚欢琌礚粄臮硂ㄇ繷ネи粄琌伦碔Τ诀穦芠の把籔翠璶菌┦ㄨ兜癚阶㎝∕﹚и龟稰篴┋
︑拜и琌璣瓣崔チ参獀Θ眖厩ネ︓Θ約冀盡穨Θ某и常緻玴璣Αゅて┮紇臫и獺ō〆ヴ某︗ㄆ穦籔иΤ稰
璣瓣恨獀翠Τ藕Θ罿ㄆ龟籔璣瓣セō肚参厩の醇紌獶礚闽羇芠ぃ瓣產崔チ礚粄璣瓣砆そ粄暗眔ゑ耕笵㎝そタτē璣瓣穦崔チミ纔▆そ叭╰参┮ノ恨瞶郸菠㎝砏痻琌獶盽砛玡璣瓣崔チ縒ミ蔼綼そ叭ㄓ蝴俱瓣產笲
臮翠現┎ぇず蕾蕾Θ罿程程眶ヘ翠厩拨穨ネ埃踞ヴセō盡穨场常щσ現叭﹛硂肚参ご礛︽︓さ現┎烩旧糷弘璣ぇǎ痁
и癘眔и克纯弧璣瓣隔現獶盽Ч到瘤礛и-
盽у蝶翠┎膀よぃ╈┑τ耕谋琌俱砰τ阶そ笵蝶基琌翠さぱ砞絋ぃ癬┮翠莱赣癸璣瓣翠┮攫ぉ﹚堡琌硂碭ㄓ贺贺い璣闽玒炒奸翠羆服ぃ臮狦筁硉崩秈現ээ跑癸地現郸琌琽の辰τ翠ョτ璶基
さぱミ猭Ыぃ硄龟獶盽磀琌璣瓣翠参獀菌祘い狙ㄆ瘤礛璣瓣翠┮蚌緄︑パチ弘琌眔苂喘ㄏу蝶翠現ぃ镑チ璶┯粄穦┮ㄉΤよ︑パ珹ē阶の竒蕾︑パ籔ㄇゑ耕チ瓣產ゑ耕龟Τ筁ぇτ礚ぃの
и粄程眔и-
堡琌俱穦跌痲籔薄瞶キ颗笷璓キ颗も琿㎝碙猭∕み翠琌或常ぃ┤ビ禗盡默瓣篴倒ぉ腜某腞猭秘ēㄒǎ常㊣"穦┤ρ盋ぃ穦┤現┎"︑パ辨翠硂腳禥疭紉ッぃΥ
畕地某璓勉畊安︙┯ぱ某璶иㄢ程虏虫弧杠ㄓ蝶基︑66ㄓネи穦弧材琌瘤礛﹟ゼΘゼア毖い瓣珿ㄆ材琌ㄣΤ翠疭︹い瓣珿ㄆ
碭ぱ玡羆服碸﹚眃ネ钡墨狦ら厨癘砐拜癸и硂妓蝶基"眖ㄓ⊿Τ嘿琌璣瓣瓣ㄣ琌は崔チ竡绊﹚眏祑の獶盽羙い瓣稲瓣竡"
砆崔チ程羆服"は崔チ竡"и稰篴ぃ筁Τ翴璶タ琌"獶盽羙"龟筁臕и琌ぃ璓稭镍τ
ゅ咎毙畍羱筍ㄆンи烩旧毙畍絵揭眔秤承翠毙▅盡穨穦"毙"︑ищ穦笲笆﹍沧矮材帹讽くぃ琵荡ぃ癶罽安硂ㄓ翠穦琌Τ秈˙杠ㄤいΤи㎝и狟ね-
い璣羛羘帽竝き毙翠程眏穦璉璽龟瞷"瓣ㄢ蔼︑獀"τ癪膍秖穦砫ヴ㎝菌ㄏ㏑∕﹚〆и把匡ミ猭Ы毙厩舱硂琌菌材Ωミ猭Ы匡庢6匡ぇいи68.5%布计讽匡
ㄤ毙厩舱匡庢纒狥匡き纒狥匡き蒥現Ы匡埃︑笆讽匡菌Ωи常蔼布计讽匡そ秨そキそタ匡庢匡庢挡狦靡и眔计匡チや㎝獺ヴ
眖き璸癬и竒讽ミ猭Ы某12и瞷ヴ戳セㄓ︓戳骸瞷玱砆管ㄢぃи砆管匡チ癸иや㎝獺ヴ砆管и癸匡チ┯空㎝狝叭琌ヴ︙管ぃ"六癭荷否砮过﹍沧"硂琌иき材Ω把匡腹12ㄓららи常龟筋硂腹τみ種狝叭匡チさぃ恨и琌穦Ω踞ヴミ猭穦某и常穦妓弘翠蒥チ狝叭
︗狟ね簿﹡盡逆產纯硂妓癸и弧玻囊瞶阶ē窾粂暗碞ì镑硂杠碞琌捷ミい玭を粂魁"チ狝叭"и眖ㄣΤ狝叭穦獵秨﹍碞羣狝宽眖龟筋硂杠иぃ琌玻囊и粄ぃ琌Τ玻囊琌"チ狝叭"
"﹟ゼΘ"и灸矮ヘ夹临ゼ笷"ゼア毖"иご礛灸矮ぃ阶Θ┪ア毖и常琌い瓣
ッ崔チ翠иチ壁碙腨㎝チ壁稰薄崔チ翠疭︽現跋盢Θミи钡珼驹局╆疭跋翠и"ぃ阶Θア毖""讽くぃ琵荡ぃ癶罽""六癭荷否砮过﹍沧""チ狝叭"ㄓ钡珼驹ㄣΤ翠疭︹い瓣ㄓ钡珼驹
畊и略朝勉
MRS ELIZABETH WONG: Thank you, Mr President, for giving me the early chance to speak because it is really not my turn, so I am speaking out of turn because I am getting off this train in order to catch a boat to Discovery Bay, so thank you, Mr President.
Words fall short to describe a 156 years of British rule, particularly in the small hours of the morning, and I think it is difficult for me to express my feelings without turning my speech into some sort of confession, so I shall be brief.
Now, to do justice to the history of Hong Kong, I have actually anticipated this valedictory motion. I have written a book, the world's little red book it is like the Mao's Little Red Book called "Thanks for the Memories: Hong Kong 1997". It is about people we know, the great people, the brave people, special people and special places and special things. It is about this Legislature. It is also about the provisional legislature. Now, if you want to read about yourself you can, I am going to donate this to the library, you can check it up in the library, and I am in fact following it up with a sequel, and if you want to do something which appears in my sequel, you have got to do something either heroic or very crazy, or both.
And Mr President, as we say goodbye to the British rule and to each other, we must see the end as a beginning. I shall remember all of you and all of these with fondness and I remember you, every one of you, with affection including yourself, Mr President, whom I have condemned in one motion. I hope you have forgiven me. And in the parting of ways I wish you good luck, good health and God bless you, and in the famous words of MAO Zedong, he was my compatriot, we came from the same village, so I will say, I will spend the rest of my days "チ狝叭".
︙┯ぱ某璓勉畊и翠ネи克翠ネиいゅ厩弄ㄤい程瞏ㄨ禜琌и-
弄いゅ菌弄緙驹瓣羛瓁ㄊ讽и-
谋眔暗い瓣礚ー槽い瓣硂或蓝畓镑砆硂妓獻い瓣い璣帽竝羛羘иΤ┋砆淋叫ㄊ把芠硂帽竝祸Αи癘眔讽边琌边и穦绑单拦焊ひㄓㄓ獽癬瓁贾い瓣瓣簈瘤礛︑┪︓瞷и癸玻囊к┶┮и蔼砍瞷龟︽"瓣ㄢ"讽讽и钮い瓣瓣簈瘤礛硂琌玻囊い瓣琌い瓣瓣簈и稰笆砛и琌ゑ耕甧稰笆Τи筿紇穦瑈瞈и钮瓣簈谋眔稰笆и谋眔い瓣沧Θ眏瓣璣瓣盢翠纒ユい瓣さぱи-
硂初堡璣瓣и獽璶弧硂礷杠
碞璣瓣翠菌ㄓ弧玡-
ョぃ莱藕镀癸い瓣Τ猍跌,ㄒい瓣ぃ︘郴︓Τㄇ穦┮ぃい瓣把︓程计и谋眔い瓣癸瓣穦Τ贺ぃ篈Τぱиい吏Τ牡诡祇瞷进═ó氨獃拨ゴ玡ê琌ぃ獃óよ﹁包óずひ癸皑隔禦狥﹁и癸êユ硄牡弧硂琌ぃ獃ó︙ぃ祇布㎡玱琌ぃ耞ê﹁包"量瑿縬"初琌и穦┮逗êㄍ莱癸и弧璶挡烩盿и癸弧"烩盿倒и挡"⊿Τ挡烩盿瑅玱タГêㄠ狥﹁и程ぃ甧г硂ㄇㄆиミ癬ㄓゴ衡瞒иびび玥弧"ぃ璶び候眎τ祇凳"и弧"硂ぃ琌凳拜肈и琌ぃ甧г硂ㄇㄆ"タ畕地某┮弧и谋眔и-
璶碙︑チ壁弘
畊琵и锣酵ㄇ耕淮肞ㄆ逞3だ牧丁и璶蝴畊ぷㄤ琌硂计ㄓ讽畊斗璶斌ㄢン尺稲暗ㄆиぃ琌弧びび腜某瞷ぃ硂┮и既ぃ酵琖皇某蛤и厩琌盝ね畊琌ぃ筁畊淮ㄇи碙琖皇某ρ龟弧Τㄆ薄и-
莱赣厩策ぷㄤ琌璝璶眖現и10玧眏弧琌眖現и谋眔临Τㄆ莱赣琖皇某厩策現獀醇紌蔼現獀籖琌┦硂琌籔и-
ぃぇ矪畕地某纯竒弧筁碙и痷港厨夹肈琌"地碙︙┯ぱ"и碭Τ種饼把匡ㄤ龟и谋眔地痷港硂琌и痷み杠瘤礛Τи-
現ǎ穦Τぃ弧杠︽ㄆ絋琌Τ稰τ祇τ–Ω祇ēぃ穦びぞ
ㄤ龟и临Τ杠璶弧丁ぃ甧砛и酵のㄤㄒ糂紌某иぃ笵糂某ぃ笵︑搿腹碞琌"unguided missile"ぷㄤ琌碞–ンㄆ薄常璶篕琌稲琌痷港絴嘲糠某玥琌"smart bomb"–Ω弧杠ぃ羆琌粂い︓腜某и眖現某闽玒︑眖蛤繦ㄊи獽ǐ眖現隔
谅谅
MR ERIC LI: Mr President, "Borrowed time, Borrowed place": a familiar phrase to us all before the signing of the Sino-British Joint Declaration in 1984. Clearly, the return of Hong Kong to China is, and has always been, inevitable. The question is, how do we, the people of Hong Kong today, perceive our departing temporary Sovereign?
In a historical context, Britain might have been the "borrower"; but the fact is, that many of our fathers, our grandfathers and great grandfathers chose to migrate here. To them, Hong Kong under British rule, was more than a prosperous harbour; it was a safe haven which self-reliant people could call home and where they could raise their children in peace and with hope for a better future.
British merchants might have been motivated by profit only, when building their business empires in the colony; but they also created ample business and career opportunities in the process and established a valuable network with China's distant outside world. Early British Governments might have neglected long term improvements to our housing, welfare and other livelihood problems; but such an environment strengthened our spirit of self-help. Too little democracy might have come too late; but we are blessed with an exceptionally strong team of apolitical civil servants who are trained to administer Hong Kong professionally. Successive British Governments might have offered us more bold promises than tangible deeds; but a growing number of self-assured local politicians have earned international repute while articulating the case for Hong Kong.
The remarkable history of Hong Kong created our unique pluralistic political culture and a thriving, almost legendary, economy. Although it still sometimes hurts to be reminded that we were often considered second class British citizens, we are extremely proud to be Hong Kongers. As far as many of us are concerned, we already enjoy a high degree of "autonomy", "freedom" and "independence" under British rule without the need to draw up specific constitutional rules and a national boundary.
It would be hypocritical to say that the British Government provided us with all the ingredients of success. China has also played an at least equally important role. But it is also true that, because of the British presence, we learned and developed our own skills. These skills we used for fishing, farming, trading and eventually for achieving financial security. Much more recently, we applied our minds and accumulated skills to democracy, human rights and self administration. It will take us a little time to assimilate this relatively new knowledge and mould it into our own unique, pluralistic culture. But success is never likely to be far from sight. There is no denying, in any case, that British traditions and practices have already become very much part of our own local heritage and of our sense of values. We have a deeply rooted desire to live as free men, to decide our own fate and to set our own political agenda. This agenda will reflect the true aspirations and vision shared by the people of Hong Kong. To respect Hong Kong today, is to let us conduct our own affairs and fend for ourselves.
On the eve of British rule, this city of proud people bids farewell to the British Government. We draw great satisfaction from the success achieved so far and our new national identity allows us to stand tall, to face the future with confidence and dignity. Despite difficult beginnings, I sincerely hope that, when looking back at the 150 years of British rule, the people of Hong Kong, as well as the people of Great Britain, will choose to focus on the good fortune and mutual benefits derived during that period.
Mr President, history is still in the making. The departure of the British Government does not mark an end to be forgotten but rather the beginning of a new chapter in Hong Kong's history. While Hong Kong reunifies with China, Britain, in a sense, is also faced with the challenge of reunification with the rest of the European Community. We both have a separate but significant role to play in the wider international community. The contribution to our people and to the world community will be far greater if we look ahead positively and if we strengthen existing natural ties with genuine friendship, care and mutual support.
May God bless the Queen and her people at this time of fond farewell. May He give us all the courage and wisdom we need to guide Hong Kong and Great Britain. May we always live and work together in peace and total harmony.
Mr President, I shall deliver the speech to the second part of the motion in my mother tongue.
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畊菌穦ǎ靡и-
谅谅
MR RONALD ARCULLI: Mr President, firstly I would like to thank our audience in the Gallery, otherwise we would be talking to ourselves like we have been doing for the past week. But I think this is both an occasion to jest as well as to reflect on some of the serious points of life, so I think I will get rid of the serious points of life first because in my life there is not really too much seriousness these days. We cannot even follow amendments here to the extent that when we pass Bills we have to adjourn to see what we have passed.
PRESIDENT: It is a sign of maturity.
MR RONALD ARCULLI: ...... which indeed, Mr President, is a sign of maturity, but of course I am referring to Government Bills and not Private Members' Bills.
I was in fact going to thank the Secretary for Housing for staying behind because he probably has the most difficult job of all government officials today, but seeing that his wife tells us in the newspapers that he works until about 3.30 or 4 o'clock, that is about the time he left.
Well, I think I would like to go down, not Memory Lane, but go down the voting sheet and maybe try and give a few words and claim parliamentary privilege for what I am about to say. The Honourable Allen LEE, I would describe him as the most trusting party leader. He leaves most things to us.
The Honourable Martin LEE, for a legal heavyweight he is not a very good comedian did not raise a single laugh despite all his wisecrack remarks about the Liberal Party.
The Honourable Frederick FUNG, the most misunderstood Member of this Council.
PRESIDENT: Or hard to understand.
MR RONALD ARCULLI: The Honourable IP Kwok-him, who is not here, so I will wait for him. The Honourable Ambrose LAU, the fastest kid on the block. No sooner did he join this Council, he acquired Maria TAM's party and kicked her out at the same time, all within a matter of weeks. Mr LAU, you have no idea how much we are going to miss her in the Provisional Legislative Council (PLC).
The Honourable Miss Emily LAU, not easy to say something funny about. Single-minded. I do not agree with my friend, the Honourable Edward HO, by the way. Single-minded to the point of being blind at times. Sometimes it is a strong point, sometimes it is a weak point, and I mean that sincerely, because Miss LAU and I had a conversation many years ago and she thought that I was too good for the Legislative Council, that I should have gone straight to the Executive Council, but of course, you know, Mr Allen LEE was there, the Honourable Mrs Selina CHOW was there, and do you think they would make space for me? No way.
One or two absent Members. The Honourable James TIEN, the most improved politician within a span of three, four years. Mr James TIEN in the 1980's was so right that he was sitting outside of this Chamber.
My good friend and close friend, the Honourable Paul CHENG, the big picture man details are nothing, just concentrate on the big picture.
Miss Miriam LAU, Party Whip of the Liberal Party, the most difficult job. You have no idea how difficult that job is. When we say we are the Liberal Party, Mr President, we are the Liberal Party. If we feel like it, we turn up and vote. If we do not, we will not, like we did a couple of nights ago. We did not feel like coming in. We did not come in.
The second-last, Dr the Honourable LEONG Che-hung, Chairman of our House Committee. His hairstyle belies his fairness. Looking from the front he neither favours the left or the right, but when you look from the back you do not know where he is coming from.
Mr President, you, the last. I think you have, probably amongst all of us, and I mean this in all sincerity and seriousness, sacrificed the most because we know how you cannot resist the odd repartee here and there. Did you notice Mr Speaker joining in the debate signalling us how to vote? Poor man has been contained for two years. But I think when we go on to the PLC you will feel unleashed, but please try and control yourself. Do not make us, sort of, embarrassed because this is the start of a new government and so on.
But lastly, Mr President, I think what I really would like to say is this, that the cut and thrust of politics in Hong Kong has changed so dramatically in the last nine years when I first joined that even I cannot recognize this Council, and all for the good. And all I can say to friends that will not be joining us at the PLC is that, for whatever it is worth, the Liberal Party will do its utmost to make sure that we have good and fair electoral laws to contest the elections in 1998, when I expect unfortunately to see most of you back here again!
MISS CHRISTINE LOH: Mr President, it is time to bid you fond farewell. It is also time to say goodbye to Britain, and I suppose in a day or so that emblem of the lion and the dragon will be removed and we will have new images and new icons for the future.
I never thought I would be in politics, Mr President. I never thought that I would be and I never sought to be, and it came as a shock in 1992 when I was invited by appointment to join this Council. I never thought I would run an election. I do not know how many people here, particularly those of, kind of, my generation ever thought that they would be in full-time politics, but here we are. And as the Honourable YEUNG Sum said, I know there are many of you who were involved in student politics back in the seventies and, gosh, we are all here.
So, I never thought I would run an election and win. I never thought that I and others would found a political party. I think my parents and my friends never thought I would do anything like this. So, I would like to think, Mr President, that this represents a generational break. When I was young, and I am sure many of you will feel the same, none of us ever thought that we would want to be the Governor. Probably none of us ever thought of wanting to become a legislator or an Executive Councillor because we never saw these people. We never knew what they were doing for us. But I think young people today, and certainly this is confirmed by my visits to schools and talking to even high school students, they notice us. They notice that this Council exists. They notice our work and some of them say to me that they too would like to be a legislator. Little Johnny or Little Mary in Hong Kong can, I think, in future aspire to be the Chief Executive, and this is something quite extraordinary.
Also our young children can also aspire to be Chinese leaders. We will have a country in a very short time. Just now when we were having dinner, Mr President, upstairs, a couple of my colleagues were talking about running for the National People's Council (NPC) and they said, "Well, are you going to do it? Are you going to do it?" Well, it is something that Hong Kong people now can do. I am certainly not ready for the NPC. If nothing else I must improve my Chinese. But also for me it is extraordinary that I could run an election in Cantonese. When I first joined this Council it was very difficult for me to talk for more than about 20 seconds entirely in Cantonese. Well, I am very pleased that I can do so now and I suppose it is a kind of transformation.
I will the only member of my immediate family on 1 July who will become Chinese again. This is extraordinary. I think I am going to wake up and I am going to think, boy, we are in China. Legally and rationally and intellectually I can cope with this new, this new status but I must admit emotionally I still have some problems. It is not easy for me to think of myself and to feel myself as a citizen of the People's Republic of China. There is nothing bad about this. I think I am going to remember always warmly those images and icons of British rule in Hong Kong. That experience, I think, has not done me any damage and I hear many acknowledgments in this Council today that obviously it was not all bad. And I think it is important for us to acknowledge our past in order to go forward in the future.
In looking at political life I have also realised that first of all it is a strange kind of business. It is the kind of business where you can be out of it for thirty years and come back and be president. You can also be out of office for 18 years and come back with a landslide victory. And sometimes you have to go out in order to come back in, and I guess this is one of those moments where some of us will leave this Council in order to get back in, in a way that we want to get back in.
Another thing that I have really enjoyed about this last five years as a legislator is the extraordinary number of people that I have met and an extraordinary number of people that I have been able to work with. I never thought I would become a champion of women's rights. It was not something that I knew anything about before 1992 but I have come to meet many women who have been fighting for women's rights. I have come to meet many other groups, labour groups. I never thought I would stand up in this Council in the last week and speak about labour issues. It was not something that I knew anything about. So, the privilege is that we are able to meet a vast range of people serving in this Council. And each one of them, each group that comes to meet us in a way shares something with us that they believe most in, and in that ten minutes, in that half an hour, in those few times where we interact on a particular subject that moves them, in a way they are giving us something that they most believe in, and I find that a great privilege to be able to share that with them.
Well, Mr President, I have decided to embrace the future. I have decided to embrace change, and I must get used to thinking of myself as a citizen of the People's Republic of China. I do not know how long that is going to take before my heart feels it but I will try and do what I can. I acknowledge that in politics, if we are going to attach ourselves to this country, we will have to acknowledge that we are going to be citizens of that country. It is not very easy for me but, as I said, I know this is going to be a challenge that I will face.
So, I do want to say goodbye to the British warmly. I do want to welcome China in the hope that despite all the difficulties and the conflicts that we do have because of our very different values and culture, we will be able to work them out.
And I wish you well, Mr President. Thank you for presiding over us over the last two years.
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谅谅畊
MISS MARGARET NG: Mr President, I support the motion.
It is not easy to sum up 150 years of British rule in seven minutes and be fair. So I will not try to do so. This is an occasion to bid farewell, not to settle scores, and as the Chinese saying goes, men of honour do not yell at each other when they part company. The immorality of colonialism is obvious. Yet we are all bound by history. What we do and think right reflects the epoch we are caught in. No doubt, the right-minded among us, British or Chinese, are glad that tonight we are putting that embarrassment to an end.
Mr President, let us leave to the judgement of history whether Britain retreats with honour. I note that British and Chinese people have this in common: we both think much of our history, except we Chinese have much more history to think about.
Today, let me, as someone born in Hong Kong and have spent her life here, acknowledge rather the good things which had come of this tiny part of history.
The first thing for which I give acknowledgement is the English language. I was forced to learn English, like millions of other Hong Kong children. But having learnt that language, I have come to appreciate how fine it is. Of course, to me, Chinese is the most beautiful language in the world, but as I have grown to recognize, English has its own beauty.
More than that pleasure, having acquired the English language we are given direct access to a whole new world of literature, thinking, and institutions, among these institutions is the common law.
And this makes us, the Hong Kong people, unique in our bilingualism. This is the only place where mastering both Chinese and English languages is common and institutionally enforced. Once having mastered these languages, the learning of the entire world is at our feet. We can choose from a unique range of options. We can be, if we choose, more well-rounded than the Renaissance Man.
The second good thing I want to acknowledge is the legacy of the common law, and the rule of law under the common law system. Mr President, as the legal profession's representative in this Council, throughout the past two years, I have on many occasions voiced my views on the importance of the rule of law, and of safeguarding the legal system which gives it effect. I shall not repeat these views today.
What I wish to point out on this occasion, is that this uniquely complements our Chineseness. It is not that China had never developed a sophisticated system of law. But the Chinese concept of law and the legal system is very different. It emanates more from a need for authoritative control and to preserve the collective good, than the need of the individual to be protected from those in power, and of citizens to settle their disputes without violence. As China's legal development was seriously disrupted in the early 20th Century, the common law stepped into the breach in the small territory of Hong Kong. Forced to learn the ways of the conqueror, we have now become proficient in that law, and found it an invaluable instrument to achieve our aspirations in the modern world.
Thirdly, I want to give acknowledgement for the creation, albeit inadvertently, of this refuge so close to China, to millions of Chinese people in a very difficult period of our history. It allowed our forefathers to escape to a safe environment, a well-regulated place where although they might have to pocket their pride, they were allowed to lead a quiet life.
The British colonialists of those days were a practical breed. They ran an efficient bureaucracy, made comprehensive regulations, looked after health and hygiene, and ran a relatively well-ordered and clean city which in 1923 impressed Dr SUN Yat-sen.
Time and again, Hong Kong had acted as a place of refuge for the sorrowful Chinese who had to leave their country; revolutionaries, poets, intellectuals, the hungry masses. The British largely left them alone, and so gave them breathing space. In that breathing space, they made whatever living they could, and raised their families, and so, in time, brought about our generation.
Mr President, many have commented on Hong Kong as an economic miracle. But the more profound miracle is a cultural one. Out of those unequal treaties grew a people who consider equality their right. Out of colonialism grew a people who firmly believe in freedom, in human rights, democracy, and the rule of law.
We, the Hong Kong people, are a fact here to stay. We have our sense of dignity. We are confident, accomplished, proud of our Chinese heritage, unashamed of our British advantages, alive to the issues of the world and Hong Kong's role in them. On the eve of the change of sovereignty, we are calm and collected, ready to meet new challenges as we always are. Mr President, we take the change of sovereignty in our stride. Few people are better equipped to do so.
Tonight, we have to say our farewell to the British Government hurriedly, because each of us are busily moving into a new phase of our lives and history. As they no doubt wish us well, Mr President, I return those good wishes.
Mr President, as we ring out the old so we ring in the new. As we bid farewell with good wishes, we welcome the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, also, with sincere goodwill. I wish it should continue its stability and prosperity with all my heart. It must not fail the 6.5 million of Hong Kong people. Indeed, with their assistance and unfailing courage, it cannot fail. Thank you, Mr President.
MR HOWARD YOUNG: Mr President, as this Council bids farewell to the British Government, it is not bidding farewell to the legacy of rule of law, a sound legal system and a sound civil service system and the use of English as a business language.
For 13 years now we have known that there would be a change of sovereignty and that this Council would not be able to exist in its current form under the auspices of the Royal Instructions and the Letters Patent. This hour is only 67 hours away now.
Now, as we usher in the new era of a Special Administrative Region and ask ourselves whether we will have continued stability and prosperity as indicated in the motion, we will have to use our own efforts to prove to the world that this can be achieved. What will happen after 1 July 1997? What about the future of
Hong Kong? Is it a prediction? Is it fiction? Is it a forecast? Is it a guess?
In three days' time it will be the first time anyone will be able to show that it is fact. It is upon us now and we will have to prove to the world that one country, two systems can work.
As for the world looking on us during this time of change I only hope that the world will give us a chance to prove ourselves. And in one year's time I hope the thousands of journalists will flock back to Hong Kong again, not only to boost our tourism industry but also to see for themselves that Hong Kong is stable and is prospering and the system does work.
And as for the mystery question which will no longer be asked of us, Hong Kong people, when we go abroad, "what will happen after 1997?", or "what comes after 1997?", Mr President, the answer has always been simple: it will be 1998.
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穦Г-
-
秨穦и-
穦ㄓ-
璝︽畉今岿и-
穦у蝶矗и-
猭и-
だ獺и-
е獽穦ㄓΩ蛤產硂某ㄆ绑いш簍ミ猭穦某à︹
иセЫい程肚碈拜и稰程瞏ㄨ琌ンㄆ讽礛ㄆ穦弧琌Τ闽璣瓣ㄆ癸иㄓ弧玱琌иギ好拜︙服诡Τ"弊兵"常琌瓣и烦иぃ笵產穦钩и妓Τ硂好拜иǎêㄇΤ兵︹"弊盿"服诡穦谋眔だ┣︙-
常琌璣瓣︙场常琌瓣-
琌疭碿疭腨τи-
い瓣疭┤-
讽現┎﹛ミ猭Ы某А琌瓣︽現Ы某玥琌瓣癸и-
翠ネ穝ㄓ弧и-
穦谋眔︙场程璶戮︗常パ璣瓣踞ヴи-
ぺ︙璶ノ璣瓣ó璣瓣óㄤ龟ぃ琌程ó︙и-
Τê或狥﹁琌眖璣瓣ㄓㄤ龟ǐㄓ祇癬穦笲笆獽琌癸璣瓣参獀は稰и-
Τ眏疨は崔チ稱︓瞷и-
砆嘿"克璣睹翠""はい"龟琌ぃ┮и-
パ﹍︓沧常ぃ纯"克璣"и-
Θぶ琌JPMBEOBEチ囊Θ獽и-
琌程ぶ硂ㄇ晃繷琌程ぶ秈翠璣現┎吭高〆穦琜篶и-
秈瓃吭高琜篶┮ΤΘЧ琌硂计丁Τㄆ現秨﹍秨и-
硂竤"逮ㄆだ"┮孔穦笆珹玡祇癬いゅ笲笆罤ㄆン猳陈弗めㄆン玡晋τи琌暗硂ㄇ钡20ぃ翠璣現┎猋洁︓瞷и-
硓筁そ秨そキ布匡庢跋よ秈硂ㄇ吭高琜篶某穦и稱и-
琌綼︑"ゴ秨兵﹀隔"и-
眖ㄓ⊿Τ"克璣"眖⊿Τ崔チいだㄇ禣と繺碞琌盢ㄓい瓣胔╆翠疭跋いи-
琌璶綼︑ゴ秨и-
隔ぃ穦莉眔ヴ︙界
ぃи獽璶蛤26︗ㄆ瞒秨硂ミ猭穦 莱赣琌ミ猭Ы3ら嘿ミ猭穦辨產候︑盺︗戮某縩伐闽みτи-
戮某竒弧穦竒盽硂某ㄆ绑膥尿ш簍"紇囊刮"à︹︓ぃ把匡ㄆи辨-
玡硚妓骸闽み翠
и稱ぃ澈弧せだ牧и琌⊿Τ絑洪琌酵酵猭辨畊搭ぶ┾废ê或ì瞴м砃獽穦
略朝勉
朝挪狶某璓勉畊и-
硈尿秨5ら穦某τ硂ぱ程穦某ョ秈︽禬筁20ㄆ-
だ痟и稱и程硂Ω程癪膍碞琌程祏祇ē琵產Ν翴產ヰ
稱硂ㄢミ猭Ыи-
チ羛碭︗"穝"弧琌厩狥﹁疭琌иΤ盞︗弧碞琌朝胞糭某栏毽и"稴ぷ"–讽и臛阶い祇ēЧ拨チ囊羆Τ碭︗某 ッ笷朝岸穨眎ゅ 繦獽穦и"糛"瞷-
庢も稱ゲ璶"糛"糂紌某┮弧и-
Ыずㄆㄏ荐疨阶產琌皐癸ㄆぃ皐癸и-
硄筁1996┬璹材3腹兵ㄒㄒッ笷某程∕﹚やии讽礛璶稰谅チ霉不瓣某绊竒蕾玥绊ミ猭Ыぃ莱赣箇︽現玥┮程斌は癸ㄏиタ礚種い莉眔硄筁硂砛弧琌ミ猭Ы硂Ω程穦某いチ㎝チ囊程Τ砞┦∕﹚琌и-
瞷▆┮畊逗ョ苂砛и-
弧и-
秈˙硉よ琖皇某祇ēいョ癳и-
秈˙硉贱и谅谅產
霉不瓣某璓勉谅谅畊иネ纯痙厩竒蕾厩癸翠さぱ眔竒蕾Θ碞の瓣悔┮︗иぃ虫ゎ稰獶盽藕镀稰佩砓硑Θ翠竒蕾眔Θ碞璶耴碭翴
材︑パ竒蕾
材戈癟︑パ瑈硄
材猭獀
材穨產弘の骋灸祇弘
材き翠甧篈
材せ蔼瞯のぃ耞秨現┎
材祙の
材琌獶盽璶碞琌い瓣癸翠竒蕾戳や
硂ㄢиチōだ把ミ猭Ы埃璶膀糷痲и璶ぃ︙蝴翠竒蕾Θ璶眔キ颗琌翴ぃ甧硂碭ぱ癸иㄓ弧タ琌程珼驹硂碭ぱ边и產ǎびび材癸弧杠琌"さぱ⊿Τ祇ネ腨ㄆ薄"渤)琎ぱ讽ии癘眔и癸びび弧"さぱ癚阶猍跌┬单拜肈ぃノи璽砫莱赣淮肞"さΝΩ斌∕獺ㄏ┮Τチ囊ぃ穦а癘ии谅琖皇某у蝶チ癸иさぱ斌∕ㄆ琌淮淮盿筁и獺и-
チ籔チ囊のセЫずㄤ現囊㎝縒ミ某さ膥尿翠祇甶Θチ碔眏穦膥尿
иせ︓碞弄いゅ厩把籔いゅ笲笆㎝玂敞笲笆纯竒は崔チボ笴︽程玡帹禗и"祇癬硂ㄇ笲笆ヰ稱讽そ叭"琌翠璣現┎現郸龟琌ぃ耞秨и纯沟そ叭羆服碸﹚眃иō璹暗"笻は"現эよㄏи眔26布Θミ猭Ы某и痷璶癑み稰谅
计ぱい瓣盢Μ翠獀舦"瓣ㄢ"琌い瓣現┎矪瞶翠拜肈琂﹚現郸玱⊿Τ钡把σ闽竒喷硂筁祘いΤΤ紐納︓磀芠篈硂琌┮螟и辨翠–А穦候盺︗瑻みㄇ荷秖"瓣ㄢ翠獀翠"ぇ膥尿ǐи-
チ碔眏笵隔のい瓣参捷ミ篯妓
翠瘤礛琌い瓣12货い灿疭︽現跋翠い瓣程秈程羉篴カи-
庢笆癸い瓣現┎現郸のい瓣癸拜肈粄硂よぃ琌Ч⊿Τ紇臫翠穦竒蕾︑パチ現獀ゅて﹚祇喘
谅谅畊
眎▆某璓勉さぱセЫ璣瓣現┎笵
╯澈и-
笵琌ㄇ或㎡
璣瓣恨獀ㄇ或κ璣瓣崔チ恨獀荡计丁琌笲ノ︽現盡地瑅だ筳地弘璣地地よΑ恨獀硂よ戳ㄓ翠⊿ΤチΤ纯弧"翠瘤礛⊿Τチ玱Τ︑パ"ㄤ龟и-
睲贰┮孔︑パ琌硂20ㄆ筁ぃぶ恒そチ舦崔チ"碿猭"睲贰弧┮孔︑パ翠戳ㄓ琌鞍到弧猭
⊿ΤチΤΤ︑パ翠︙驹ごまê或眖い瓣嘲ㄓヌ讽螟チ㎡ㄤい琂Τ竒蕾ョΤ現獀︙"拜肈"瞷ぇぃぶ穦弘璣圭腀舦传獀舦圭腀膥尿パ璣瓣恨獀㎡и粄ぃ琌硂ㄇい瓣璏ぃ腀種耴瓣胔╆ぃ腀讽绑绑タタい瓣-
琌癸い瓣獺み獺ヴ
戳獺厨狶︽ゎネ矗硂妓芠诡弧"翠粄"い瓣ぃ獺璣瓣ぃ綼"讽い瓣硋˙秨э翠荐ち戳辨い瓣穦穦ぱぱ跑硂妓耴獽ぃ琌礚ー匡拒はτ琌伐ㄣ縩伐種竡ㄊ瞷チ笲翠κ窾刁硂ぃ虫ゎ琌薄厩ネ琌粄﹚翠㏑笲籔俱い瓣㏑笲硈砮癬ぃだ澄┮孔耴チ壁耴瓣產ê竒琌辅龟翠い瓣Ν癸璣瓣弧"ǎ"
璣瓣莱赣琌崔チ盡現参獀琌踞み材穦钩捆ㄠ硈瑍峻ㄖ砆奔ㄏㄇ翠┮堡ㄒㄆ矗纔╭ゅ﹛縒ミ猭猭獀单常э绰传τ砆獻籯э硑㎡材ㄓ璣瓣崔チ恨獀よΑ墩耕眏竒嘲尿秈︽эㄒま秈匡庢舦猭秨現┎单硂贺贺穦砆璣瓣は地潮垦场だτ砆﹚眖τ翠ǐ癶笵隔㎡
и-
辨璣瓣崔チ参獀ら菌沧挡ぃ穦琌盡恨獀ら秨﹍辨菌穦靡ㄇ硂よ踞み琌ぃゲ璶
畊筁璣瓣参獀ぇぃぶセ弘璣贾讽璣瓣┪灵じ里┮弧"狝叭翠ぃぃ丁钡狝叭璣瓣"さぱ璣瓣璶瞒秨弘璣璶э跑┚癸禜暗い瓣い瓣現┎稰瞷龟薄猵硂琌礚玴獶и谋眔ぃ莱赣"ш璣瓣"み篈"шい瓣"и-
セㄓ碞琌い瓣独ブ涧堵泊氟瑈い瓣﹀и-
礚斗疭種冀┪簈佰きせい瓣嘲簈Ρボи-
┚瓣и-
礚斗ㄨ種璶―厩腶本瓣篨礚斗璶―厩ネ佰"竡玦瓁秈︽Ρ"ボ稲瓣きせる戳丁翠笴︽やㄊチ笲カチ琌︑祇佰瓣簈も庢き琍篨ボ籔瓣チみ硈み稲瓣莱赣琌︑礛τぃ琌┛礛礚斗ㄨ種ш︓厨笵弧ㄇ厩璶―ギ厩ネ"钮赋份份杠讽疭跋"硂痷琌ぃ┮孔虏琌瞷ゅい瓣嘲盧烩砈凡吹┏ńи辨耴瓣挡崔チ参獀┮盿ㄓ琌翠い瓣痷タ镑╋癬繷讽︑礛い瓣癸︑チ壁ōだΤだ獺み礚斗罛磡硑ㄨ種ш簍い瓣
畊糂紌某弧璶蛤璣瓣衡眀и谋眔莱チ拜肈衡眀璣瓣現┎常琌鞍到璣瓣狦痷琌Τ港種穌チ︙玡ぃ穌き崩某現︙⊿Τ玦崩︽匡はτ祇┮孔"舱"硂钵贺玂のい瓣現┎┮ノΘ恒チ匡庢祇甶ㄣ㎡
璣瓣ㄏ翠崩︽チ琌伐筐ㄓ琄ぱ﹉づ阶-
ノみ︙筐羆ゑ⊿ΤΤチ匡庢羆秤筁⊿Τチ匡庢
ぃ筁チ眖ㄓぃ琌綼讽舦界ぉτ琌綼チ秖ㄓ翠ぃ莱碵薄腀綼璣瓣現┎倒ぉ-
チ︑パ舦タ-
盢ㄓぃ莱碵薄腀綼い瓣現┎倒ぉ-
チ︑パ舦妓
璣瓣癶翠翠莱赣睲贰笵翠㏑笲の-
︑㏑笲程沧眔綼︑磝搐チ笲笆琌初腨德憨矮и-
┿ぃ莱虫虫琌ㄇユ酵癚基临基膚絏τ琌и-
玡硚︑パ︓ネ㏑癩玻и-
﹚璶ㄏチ矮Θ硂妓玂靡翠羉篴铆﹚
畊セ略朝勉
朝胞糭某璓勉畊さぱ產∕﹚某и谋眔琌獶盽筁るだΓ窵⊿Τ丁稱耴ㄆ
さ边Г硂计瘤礛и穦某芔何だ牧瞷玱琌だ弘穦某芔钮稱ㄆ薄翠眖寒翠竒菌俱菌祇甶Θ伐璽脖┪琌Θ碞獶嘿狥よ痌竒蕾纒よ硂螺琌パ硑Θタ竒蕾痴┮弧旧璓翠Θи玥粄Τよ材翠竒筁и-
Τ猭獀穦材碞琌產┮弧и-
ǒ对骋笆翠ê贺对灸穒弘承硑翠螺材琌翠籔瓣方闽玒祘翠戳ㄓ捌玻珇ㄑ莱ゑ耕铆﹚硂琌Τ闽玒и疭癘眔翠砲瓣砯基窥獽﹜ㄒ兵弊ガ壳竒
硂ㄇ薄猵硑碞翠さぱ祇甶タㄇㄆ┮弧翠現┎恨獀и-
俱穦祇甶и-
ョ硂祇甶筁祘いΤㄇ羘琌眔ぃ現┎倒ぉ诀穦程计ぱи-
某ㄆ绑ず硄筁兵ㄒΤぃぶ獽癬穝嘿嘿ぇ孔﹛骋つ挡и-
玡絴現┎﹛坝つ挡瞷Τ弧﹛骋つ挡и稱ぃ阶琌﹛坝┪﹛骋硂筁祘陪ボ翠穦ㄇ跑てи︑琌把籔骋笲笆包笲笆硂筁祘讽い翠現┎陪琌逼ジ膀糷羘疭琌逼ジ┮孔克い膀糷羘硂薄猵蝴丁︓パい瓣弧璶Μ翠翠Τ某現獀祇甶ㄇ膀糷┪琌ぃ羘硋˙砆и稱眏秸眖и︑竒菌┮眔и種眎▆某┮弧翴翠現┎筁丁琌崩︽甅ㄥ崔チ弘璣狦眖琘àㄓ弧硂甅恨獀よΑ琌硄筁︽現跑琌地地︓硂硋˙Τ跑てㄏи-
硂ㄇ戳砆逼琂克い妮膀糷硂硋˙Τи-
羘и谋眔硂翴琌琌篊ㄇ篊羆秤礚
и︑某穦穝祏祏稰牟иさ边钮ぃㄆ祇ēи尺舧硂и稱ㄆ笵иぃ尺舧某穦иぃ尺舧某穦ず┮孔秸程璶Т硂籔и把籔骋笲笆┦ぃ皌–Ω匡庢А璶綠模磁某и把のき–Ω琌и–Ω常ぃ尺舧匡庢и稱и刮砰ㄆ琌笵ие某穦畊и踞み砆某穦и瞷谋眔ぃ岿ㄒ硂计ぱずи祇谋Τㄇㄆ琌弘眒疭琌さぱ 莱赣弧琌琎边 ㄢ初и痷某穦眔泊氟﹚и谋眔硂獽暗某穦脁毖ぇ秤盢秤ぇアㄇ畊Τㄇ琌畃癹隔锣谅иㄆ"稴ぷ"痷琌畃癹隔锣и谋眔硂ㄇず甧琌и刁繷驰56︓10ぃ朝挪狶某矗某э跑瞷現┎そ恏ㄒи程и-
琌沽刚暗さぱ程澈礛硄筁и谋眔┮иΤ踞みパи琌はи踞みи穦砆и瞷タ泵ゃ
Τㄇ拜и穦把匡硂Ωиぃ弧ぃиごσ納硂程临緇ぶ丁и璶弧и猋洁翠硄筁и-
產眔さぱΘ碞иョ堡さぱ翠┮局Τち癸盢ㄓ"瓣ㄢ翠獀翠蔼︑獀"иΤ獺みи谋眔иョぃ琌Τ荡癸獺み狦翠︑ぃ把籔砈も芠恨弧и-
琌ぃ穦Θ"瓣ㄢ"臮竡琌ㄢぃ呸胯蝴稱よ猭单Аぃ瘤礛琌Τ苦и-
蛮よ癬ミミ筁祘い碙の肪硄琌璶и谋眔璶и-
霍み翠盢ㄓ莱赣琌Τ祇甶
畊и辨倒иㄇ丁и谅畊矪ㄆ腨и程讽某パ琌は"毙癡"и猋洁畊そ笵и谅矪ㄆさぱミ猭Ыの盢ㄓ羬ミ猭穦Ж羅い倒ぉи-
やョ谅畒┮Τㄆ-
痷腊и-
Γ硂Ω某穦ずи︑Τ瞏稰硂躬纘и穦辈ㄓ
糂ホ某璓勉畊ノぃノや废㎡
谅谅畊さぱ肈ヘи琌郴磂某苂璣瓣現┎絴い瓣現┎は筁ㄓ絴い瓣現┎苂璣瓣現┎礛ㄢ癬絴癬苂某临璣ゅいゅがノ︓稰谅璣ゅ︽眖κ玡弧︓ヘ玡パノЭガ弧︓Θノ碭蔼竲礟ㄓ喘︑糒ぺ苂︑︓崩綪︑╆璽某ぃ崩綪︑╆璽临崩綪︑膟饱├珿︑礛┮螟ョ┤ヾゑ┤現┎ㄓ陪ボ產い舦и-
玡芔弧筁硂珿ㄆΤ㏄舦產い"㏄"⊿Τ"舦"ē耴タ肚и弧杠肚亩舱ㄆ盽矗眶ии弧眔ê或-
璝琌钮ぃㄓ碞钮ぃㄓさΩ硂弧杠琌弧眔程篊"ǒ璚-
谅谅"иョ稱矗翴碞琌狦-
"┰ガ"-
痷篏齿ぃ筁ㄓ┮狦-
稱"┰ガ"单ぃ叫畊ヰ穦ㄨ琵-
ヰ穦眔產が婚ジㄏ-
硈凡诀穦⊿Τ
и稱谅êㄇ矗ㄑ狝叭ㄆи琌肚患兵程稱钩硂兵硄隔奥奥锣锣ǐㄓǐ痷ǒ璚τ-
ョ璶ㄍи某讽某肥肥ぃ荡-
ぃノ睰谅谅-
иョ稱谅猭舱︗ㄆиごǎ猭臮拜и獺琌钮眔硂计ぱи-
ㄆ兵ㄒА惠璶-
腊и琌ア辨Τㄇ兵ㄒぃ莉硄筁и稱蛤-
璓種-
琌暗ひ
и璶谅玂舱ㄆиΤ胊策篋ê獽琌盽拟盿猜狥﹁边獽痙ㄓ珿璶骋沸-
穐ㄓ穐ぃ筁硂Τ矪ê獽琌埃腊и穐狥﹁ぇиぃ倪┤-
и琌倪┤瓣絵
禭诀穦иョ稱矪︗ㄆ璓谅и砛ぃ谅-
ㄆ龟硂琿憨ら-
琌腊и狦иΤ框簗ぃゴ候琌穦癘眔-
и禗-
и﹚穦癘本-
и畉翴а奔癘狟ね弧и祇ē叫矗矗焙╄癘и龟琌谅產ぃ弧或程硂杠琌璶碞琌腀キ籔-
籔翠カチ
辩模┚某璓勉畊るらセЫ某臛阶いи纯ノ玓粂"蘑"ㄓゑ畴伴窜翴êΩ琌ミ猭Ы璣瓣崔チ参獀κきㄓ┮祇斑眎礟
畊妓弧罢渤
辩模┚某畊иさぱ稱珼驹и稱ノ硂玓粂ㄓ祇ēи稱坚睲 碞иΩ┮弧ゼ钡 琌и獶璶玍癲セЫ某㎝ㄆиさΩノ硂玓粂琌稱盢ぇゑ畴い瓣現┎のゼㄓ疭跋現┎酚虫Μ崔チち拎碿ㄆ盢ぇ祇喘
崔チ程拎碿馋筁縒掉盡筋今舦㎝﹛坝つ挡稰框狙碞琌硂ㄇ拎碿ㄆ⊿Τ繦崔チ沧挡τア翠耴ぃ筁琌パ璣瓣崔チ跑い瓣崔チ
眖ヘ玡祇甶镣墩и-
崔チ縒掉盡场だ盢穦抖筁寸眖ㄓパ璣瓣琁︽盡参獀跑盢ㄓパい瓣龟琁盡"伴窜翴"陪琌翠崔チ戳ㄓ疭︹硂筁祘い计カチ礚眖匡庢-
チ種︓癸現┎∕郸笲筁祘薄舦ョ眔ぃヴ︙玂毁筁丁"伴窜翴"秨﹍Τㄇ稬э跑琌耴伴窜翴現獀辈ㄓ眖膚〆穦崩〆穦眖疭跋羬ミ猭穦硂┣璍计パいよ粄"︑"ヴ伴窜翴現獀讽舦盢某穦某畊╬Τ癩玻贱洁や︑
崔チ疭︹琌筋今舦崔チ猭ㄒい笻は舦碿猭舼癬ㄓìΤ玴ㄓ翠伶τぃ彼沧眔硋˙э到兵碿猭砆絣堡い瓣現┎澈贺贺琌τ獶瞶パそ礛笻は翠カチ種腀ガр兵眏舦玂毁猭ㄒぉ临崔チ現┎讽﹚刮兵ㄒそ兵ㄒ单碿猭ヘ獽琌ゴ阑翠克いオ現獀笆︓さぱ硂ㄇ碿猭だ控澈礛临活Ω緍翠繷恒翠カチ︑パ
﹛坝つ挡筁ㄓ琌崔チ参獀糶酚ㄓ戈セ產胋耞崔チ現獀舦︓︽現Ыミ猭Ы︓跋办舱麓㎝吭高琜篶А砆戈セ產癩刮┮胋耞┪Θ戈セ產㎝癩刮贾场﹛坝つ挡現┎琁現常戈セ產痲ㄌ耴ㄤ琌籹硑Τ犁坝吏挂龟借玱琌臮膀糷カチネ礚跌骋莱Τ舦痲︑ミ猭Ыま匡某穦ず膀糷羘祔糤現┎琁現ョ祔癸膀糷Τ堡疭跋Θミ戈セ產盢穦確笯ゼㄓチネ拜肈ョ盢穦瞷癶玡ぱミ猭Ы硄筁计兜э到骋舦痲猭ㄒ坝ミ癬纈吝艭璶村弧疭跋紀埃硂ㄇ猭ㄒи-
ǎ崔チΑ﹛坝つ挡薄猵亥臩狠
畊狦璶羆挡и㎝ㄤ膀糷某筁ㄢㄓЫずи穦ňゎ崔チ跑蘑ぃ稱硂蘑ゼㄓ疭跋ゥ▅堡и-
Θ罿琌眏畉種ゼㄓ疭跋и-
ǎご琌翺ネ疭琌耴讽いи-
ǎ琌洪現舦簿ユぃ琌翠痷タ耴畊и戳辨Τぱ硂崔チぃ穦Ττêㄇ砆埃畊и辨硂ぱ荷еㄓ羬讽硂ぱ羬翠眔痷タ耴稰谋Τ硂ぱは琈翠耴
畊略朝勉
畊セ畊ぃ穦碞弧杠ヴ︙掉∕琌谋眔琌珿種侣ㄆ矗讽セ畊そ秨掉∕狦Τヴ︙ぃ骸琌╬糶獺倒セ畊┪╬籔セ畊癚阶狦礛糶獺倒セ畊τ赣獺ョそ秨倒碈ざセ畊倒獺玱ゼΤそ秨セ畊临Τ碭ぱ讽畊穦禭诀穦盢赣獺そ秨虑秆睦セ畊掉∕埃硂よ猭セ畊⊿Τㄤ矪瞶よ猭
糂簙煌某璓勉畊璣瓣钢ガ狶Kipling纯笵璣瓣笵璣瓣㎡種琌ぃ秆璣瓣崔チ獽ぃ秆璣瓣妓セЫ璣瓣現┎笵放璣瓣崔チ獽瞶┦璣瓣現┎笵
畊筁计ぱ璣瓣崔チ参獀砆嘿"狥よぇ痌"翠獽璶耴い瓣礛τ璣瓣崔チ临⊿Τ过┏挡璣瓣篗翠ぇ临Τ13箂窰妮"ぱ礚ぃ床ぇ横畊"秈ぇ璣瓣崔チ砰╰硋亥秆砰Ω驹挡瓣羆参霉吹褐獽璣瓣崔チ琌"ぃ笵紈"抖莱菌奸瑈讽Ω驹崔チ璶―縒ミ奸撮癬璣瓣ョ癸硂ㄇ崔チ崩︽"獶崔て"現郸翠獶璣瓣崔チτ琌パぃキ单兵框痙ㄓ菌拜肈珿綡キネ矗"瓣ㄢ"篶稱ぇい璣蛮よ硄筁㎝キ酵秆∕翠拜肈セЫ璣瓣現┎癸い璣蛮よ硄筁碙菌碙瞷龟のが教が琵よΑ秆∕翠拜肈倒ぉ蔼蝶基翠拜肈秆∕硄筁㎝キ酵よΑ秆∕菌框痙拜肈矗ㄑΘㄥ絛
畊璣瓣崔チ参獀い眖ㄓ⊿Τ遏妮よ钩翠眔硂妓Θ碞碞ヘ玡璣瓣緇13妮ㄓ硂ㄇ妮琌チネ箉竒蕾到朝佩砓琌璣瓣硂ㄇ妮┮崩︽猭ゅ﹛╰参㎝基芠А籔翠畉ぃ环ㄤ羉篴祘玥琌硍畑︓璣瓣セ翧Τカ翠Θ翠Θ㎡硂絋琌眔菌厩產贝拜肈
畊菌琌瞷龟筁瞷龟琌菌┑尿セЫ璣瓣現┎笵璣瓣参獀翠筁菌︑Τそ阶и-
稰砍届琌ゼㄓ璣瓣囊ボ翠琌硄い瓣爵假獶毁锚硂杠┮沫醇紌莉苂砛и-
腀翠耴ぇい璣ㄢ瓣ご礛镑翠ㄢ瓣ね爵假玃秈ㄢ瓣チ痲の㎝キの祇甶翠耴籔ㄤ弧琌沧挡ぃ弧琌柜穝じ秨﹍るら癬"瓣ㄢ"よ皐ぇ翠疭︽現跋盢龟︽"翠獀翠蔼︑獀"翠筁羉篴琌パい瓣砰翠承硑ㄓい瓣璣瓣猭㎝ゅ﹛や翠ノ翠眔ぱ縒玴瞶︗竚ㄏ翠眔Θ翠镑承硑翠羉篴﹚镑獀瞶翠畊翠疭︽現跋﹚羉篴ぃ度琌翠獺み㎝腀辨┮琌璣瓣い瓣㎝瓣痲┮翠疭︽現跋羉篴﹚ぃ度琌穦眔セЫ褐穦眔約翠㎝瓣腀
畊翠疭︽現跋﹚羉篴膀セ琌∕翠刮挡璓龟筋"瓣ㄢ"翠秈羛獺翠讽產盢㎝τぃ弘玂翠穦㎝坑籔酱玨ネ㏑"㎝"籔""琌癸ミ""琌虫秸虫"㎝"玥琌じの㎝坑矪いネネぃ"㎝"種㎝キ矪瓣粂いΤ"㎝龟ネ玥ぃ膥"弧猭阶粂いョ弧筁"㎝τぃτぃ㎝"и稰谅и粄醚30ρ狟ね琖皇某祇ēいま靡и琌ē︽璓琌㎝τぃ弘Τщ布иΤищ布︓甃ㄎ瞶某癸и蝴弧琌穃ぃ幢讽"I did not kick out Maria TAM. I merely kicked her up."U" "P""UP"
畊璶翠ぇ丁翠ぃ現獀刮砰ぇ丁砰瞷㎝τぃ弘"瓣ㄢ"ゲ﹚Θ翠疭跋琌穦砰瞷︑パチ㎝﹚羉篴
畊セ略朝勉
綠產碔某璓勉畊さぱ硂堡某ㄏ瑈い地荐﹀и稰伐ベ150ぃキ单兵⊿Τい瓣稰槽琌骸睲現┎砱γ籊毖100い璣羛羘盢翠舦耴临瓣ㄏぃぶ翠稰稫磓癸ゼㄓ現舦獺み竒ノ竲щ布瓣暗单そチ玱ぃ┋琌パ瞷現舦砱γ籊毖の癸舦︑パ筋今妓玱ㄏい地ㄠΤ篒礛ぃ狦κ玡"瞒玱瞒"κ"腀痙ぃ痙"硂琌い瓣磀玸
璣瓣現┎笵Τκ稰ユ栋薄狐狦и-
び端稰獽穦砆êㄇヘチ壁竡瞨疨у蝶瓣竡眖︓芥瓣搁簙狦и-
疷チ壁芠﹚璣瓣現┎硂κ翠〆龟癸璣瓣現┎ぃそキ
丁┮畊и穦阶瓃セ粄眖翠璣現舦竒喷の眔ア︙ㄏ疭跋羉篴计兜琌は砱γ拜肈Τ弧い瓣琌量薄チ壁眖"倒"︓"倒堵窥"眖κ玡︓薄竊るらョ稧現そ竝Θミら翠穦琌ジ砱γ硂иぃ眔ぃ嘿砛翠璣現┎ゴ阑砱γよ∕み"は砲γ腐琭"パ︗地膟稧竝环璾翠璣現┎產╇砱γ籊毖砱﹛γ絋龟瞷翠璣現┎竡防克琵и琖皇某盽ノ珿ㄆ蛤產量瓃Τぱ綡キぱ籔㏄ㄓ床˙癚阶瓣產ㄆ疭琌︙ゴ阑瓣ず砱γ拜肈綡キ拜"㏄ви璶ぶ砱﹛γ秆∕瓣ず砱γ拜肈㎡500窾ì镑盾"㏄ㄓ穘繷"50窾琌ì镑"穘繷"5窾ì镑盾ぃノê或5 000"綡キ弧"㏄в禗и╯澈璶ぶ"弧琌ㄢ"琌ㄠ琌иㄠ"
畊蝴疭跋稧间癸俱翠羉篴常璶╯澈疭跋к颗瓣ず砱γ獻眔跌疭跋現┎∕み砱γ瓣ずぃ虫ゎ琌贺︽ㄤ龟竒Θネ策篋场だ獺璶耕竡防克眏玦镑р硂策篋э跑
程眔眡稧現盡タ縩伐╯璹ňゎ胳革兵ㄒňゎ╬诀篶沟翠挂砱γ︽硂よ琌獶盽璶セ辨のΝΘㄆ礛τ盡癘穦硓臩璶紐納ê獽琌ら稧現そ竝縒ミ拜肈ら稧現そ竝璣ゅ"ICAC"盢跑"CAC"⊿Τ種孔縒ミ"Independent"疭跋秆睦弧硂琌皌膀セ猭ゅセ玱ぃ秆埃翠の戈紐納ら稧現そ竝暗痷タЧ縒ミのそタы┪穦策琕ㄓ┪︓砆ΘㄉΤ疭舦в┪Θㄊ現舦翠ゴ溃钵ǎだ現獀ㄣ猭獀の稧间常琌硂ㄓㄏ翠羉篴璶膀娄狦礚猭礚ぱ砱﹛狿猭穦ㄏ翠耴ǐ繷隔玙叫疭跋癸疭跋は砱γ︗蝴疭跋羉篴
畊弧筁は砲γ拜肈и稱酵酵某現拜肈ヴ稧現盡甐笷里程钡琘厨砐拜い硓臩ňゎ翠せ某現祇甶ぃ琌肚参璣瓣崔チ現叭﹛τ琌讽纯砆璣瓣現┎窜翴︽現ミ猭ㄢЫ某珹綡浆灵じ-
讽現┎膍璸眏秸翠カチ礚ì镑醇紌钡チ畊潮垦瞶阶А粄璣瓣琌耴玡计ゴ秨チぇㄏ疭跋祇ぃΜ珺﹉づ阶硂潮垦阶琌妮龟セ粄チ祇甶瓣悔奸瑈мの戈癟祇笷吏挂Τ伐舦現┎礚瞶恒チ︑パ硂ㄓチ祇甶獺琌翠ぃ耞の瓣悔奸瑈ぃк┶┮璓
畊セ略辨ゼㄓ疭跋讽舦穦钮チ種ぃ璶臮セō琂眔痲籔奸瑈璉笵τ︽Τ肚ē弧赋疭ō娩ぃぶ讽笵ら灵じ单崔チ現舦芥ゎチ祇甶さぱ灵じ疭跋現┎秨隔琌ゎチ祇甶ㄏゼǎ"翠獀翠"ぇǎ"翠獀翠"ぇ甡
畊κ玡"瞒玱瞒"κさぱ"腀痙ぃ痙"琌磀玸瞷禜璶翠р痙︘み種щ癪膍疭跋疭跋獽璶Τ玦ㄊ現舦弧"ぃ"铆翠舦痲硂妓翠獽ぃ穦"腀痙ぃ痙"τ琌穦"弧痙獽痙"秨┹穝翠朝胞糭某竡タ迭腨弧穦把匡и獺讽匡诀穦ゑи蔼иゑ淮硂琌產常笵材匡庢и璝ア毖и穦材ㄓ璝材ア毖и穦材把匡︓и镑硂某穦ゎ
畊セ略朝勉
朝篴篱某璓勉畊Ν贬
セ秈ミ猭Ы盢ㄢ籔︗ㄆㄆ痙禥拘㎝稰薄畊谅ê或そタ穦某璓パ琎边︓さΝêㄇ某甧ア︹ゼΤ丁干玊╧-
腉ㄓ⊿Τ丁盢ぇ酵腉︑礛酵繷緑иㄤ龟粄醚ぶ瓣狟ね-
硓筁陆亩拜иぶ烦и氮弧竒禬筁60烦-
拜иΤ弧晾拜︙иごΤê或繷緑и禗-
и繷緑琌痷Τ肅︹琌安(渤)
ē耴タ肚и禬筁60烦翠璣恨獀崔チ恨獀竒菌κきиǎ靡翠崔チ恨獀禬筁だぇ丁きせ翠竒蕾現獀ゅて琌だ辅炊霉渤ネ璚炊筂琌疊ㄆ弧瞷ア穨计渤êゑ瞷璶т獽眔叫︓克狟ねざ残тǒ璚舦痲ぃノ弧琌砆┛跌ぱ璶边⊿Τぱ安戳⊿Τ猭﹚安戳骋舦痲琌и-
骋ㄓぃ耞薄猵祔祔Τ┮э到︓ヘ玡ゎ骋舦痲ご礛琌ゼ笷璓瞶キ
и-
琌翴簑だ睝蛤現┎㎝戈よ舦痲璝琌蛤秈瓣產ゑ龟琌禡よ繦崔チ参獀翠璣現┎沧挡и-
辨ゼㄓ疭跋現┎膥尿舦痲筁寸獽穦陆ō秆浚硂ㄆ琌ぃ穦瞷и-
眔膥尿
畊︑眖い璣羛羘帽竝繦寸筁憨筁寸戳ぃ┋い璣筁寸戳丁瞷╉琌璣瓣現┎э跑癸地現郸璓瞷ぃぃね薄猵Τㄇē阶弧ぇ翠獽⊿Τチ⊿Τ︑パ⊿Τ舦р弧Θ琌翠Τㄇ崩猧膇祇抡阶┪ē阶箇戳盢︓簿チ奸ゲ礛穦粿穦Τщ゜┗弧Θ翠獽穦钩﹁癪ǹゅ残現舦盰检妓翠诀初穦瞷Τ﹛チ伐澜ど诀発㏑薄春
畊临Τ3ぱ翠獽耴瓣┋瓃薄猵ぃ穦翠瞷ぃ辨穦翠瞷產睲贰瞷琌计ぱ獽琌るら碞琌弧疭跋Θミ"翠獀翠蔼︑獀"挡崔チ参獀セǎ靡崔チ参獀だぇ谋眔獶盽蔼砍︙┯ぱ某弧钮瓣簈稰縀笆τи癸耴虏虫τē琌Τみ薄
ネ寸筁ㄨ
︙单紋┋︙单Τ種竡
谅谅畊略朝勉
纯胺Θ某璓勉谅谅畊紋舦耴玸敞畄瞋炒筁┕弧и矪稴ㄆㄤ龟и稱禗產и琌稲瓣稲翠и筁芖砆弧琌瓣Ч俱и琌础き琍篨Τ地跋よい瓣嘲囊盡現礚匡庢ē
芖钡匡庢羆参せるら琌い瓣篴ら-
匡庢Τㄤ瑈国ê碞琌堵現獀崔チ参獀翠Τ耕稧间匡庢и獺ōい瓣莱赣は︙ス瞒秨い瓣嘲產常谋眔┋褐碸ㄓ翠≧阑某穦ゅて≧阑現獀ゅて蹦克チ現郸и辨┕穦膥尿碸ㄏ┮Τ﹛癸竤渤溃硂琌眔產苂洁
拜и︙ぃ羬ミ猭穦"羬ミ穦"㎡ииㄠ珿ㄆ禗產Τぱρ畍иㄠ弧"纯城讽痁"иㄠ禗"ささら琌匡иぃ钡〆ヴ"ρ畍ミ璓筿禗ии谋眔иㄠ⊿Τ暗岿程иㄠ璶秈︽匡秨吭高穦程沧琌块痁琌パ匡庢匡ㄓ妓產璝ぃ钡羬ミ穦獽ぃ穦Τ羬ミ穦或-
璶钡㎡弧ぃ琌膊攀舦禥临Τ羬ミ穦舱Θ虏虫らセ簈佰倒產钮ê獽琌"块Ч懥〆筁"块砆〆ヴ筁иミ猭Ы琌侥笆纯Ω┽阑チチ羛羛穦或иぃ┽阑︑パ囊翠秈羛㎡產纯竒骋膀糷舦痲琌硂るщ布Ω琌砆-
芥ぃ筁и琌癸ㄆぃ癸狦筁ㄢ某穦纯竒眔竜筁ㄒチ膀ρ羛穦糭﹋磁单叫瞇и琌癸ㄆぃ癸
畊临Τㄢぱ獽秨臩蝗и某рêセぬ吹宾癳ぉ璖び硂セΤノぃノ︑∕﹚т∕﹚獽τ硂琌暗眔
︓筁┕翠羉篴琌Τ碭翠琌猭獀穦稧间穦肚碈戈癟祇笷ㄉΤē阶︑パ翠⊿Τ笆睹ㄏ眖秨﹍ぱぇいΤ计κ璸笴︽ボ⊿Τㄏ翠笆睹笴︽ボョ⊿Τ旧璓ヴ︙そ瘆胊琂礛或璶Μ候或璶临せ忌笆崔チ猭ㄒ┮ぃ饼づ琁и癸羬ミ穦较ネ疭跋現┎较ネ稰谋琌"さチ種耴珿绰縒掉"拜"ㄈе璶ó璶暗ㄇ或㎡"и虏虫禗產и穦叉и某砊и驹︾籲眖膀糷いㄓ膀糷い膥尿菏诡疭跋現┎笲膥尿翠╆ゴぃキ
畊и稱眖秨﹍瞷某穦ゅて琌ぃ耞э跑ぃ琌碙禥и稱疭跋現┎碞⊿Τ"Honourable"硂и谋眔–翠璶暗羘或ㄆ暗眔羆ぇ癸ぃ瞶ㄆи-
獽璶羘临Τだ牧丁и稱搬地竒盽糶钢"るΤ潮氟蛾Τ磀舧瞒ㄆ螟腀ń糮甋"產タ何谋и稱"穌"иㄠ倒и糶璣ゅи瞷沽刚弄ㄓ"A good beginning, a good ending"
谅谅畊
币某璓勉谅谅畊
セㄓи琎边糶钢瞷吏挂竒э跑и稱程祏祇ē朝挪狶某弧祇ē璶ゑи祏и瞷祇ēご礛ゑ祏
畊璣瓣挡翠恨獀璣瓣恨獀舅场だセЫ繦ぇ挡硂碞琌菌瞷龟セ略钢癑み腀︗某玡祘繟腀翠羉篴
и钢琌琎糶祔и穦эㄤ龟琌妓
摧る弊酚某ㄆ绑
竡磅ē笵祏
さ堡莱荷綤
︙斗κ稰杠飞
瞷э琌Ν
绰锭弊酚某ㄆ绑
竡磅ē笵祏
さぱ堡莱荷綤
︙斗κ稰杠飞
谅谅畊
虫ヲ昂某璓勉畊ㄤ龟竒綤Чョ何眶150筁и-
タ稱璣瓣痙或倒и-
Τ或琌眔и-
膊攀琌羉篴常カ稧间現┎临琌酱玨竒蕾Τ╰参猭獀穦硂ㄇㄆ常弧筁籔ㄤ叉瞒璣瓣崔チだぃ璣瓣瞒秨翠琌⊿Τ倒翠痙チ讽ㄤよ縒ミ菌и-
讽瓣チ琌舧乃秨み-
镑痷タ縒ミ叉瞒崔チ穦
硂计ぱ產璝Τ诀穦竒筁い吏穦ǎ眎縊挡眒ê琌玡┮ゼǎ程簘獹縊耿犁硑獶盽舧乃猑Τぱи钩琌籔糂紌某癬ǐ氨ó初糂紌某弧硂ㄇ狥﹁痷拎ㄤ龟糂紌某硂蝶阶иぃ琌材Ω钮ǎ逗盯酵Τㄇㄆ纯蝶阶︙и-
耴穦Τ硂贺み薄τ獶痷み臩舧乃み薄㎡ぃ琌и-
秨5ぱ5穦某┮⊿Τ诀穦ㄉ炊舧乃み薄
琎边и產垃安и稱籔-
癬祇Τ计ぱ安戳莱赣ㄉぱи-
ㄏ垃ㄉ锭舮ゼゲ稰痷タ耴み薄︙и-
⊿Τ硂莱赣琌舧乃ら㎡и稱ㄓ稱稱ぃ硄琌и-
耴盿倪み薄㎡琌и-
甡┤穦耴盽砆弧琌⊿Τ猭獀弘⊿Τ︑パ⊿Τ舦⊿Τチい瓣㎡硂琌ベ╯澈и硂み薄琌蛤ㄤせκ窾翠み薄妓璝璶舧贾и獺ㄏぃ眎縊挡眒穦舧贾眎縊挡眒ぇ琌痷舧贾㎡
︑眖帽竝い璣羛羘翠パ玡ゑ耕超穦篊篊邻秈耕秨穦パ眖玡⊿Τ硂或︑パ舦チ祇甶︓瞷秨﹍ㄉ翴翴︑パㄇ舦の伐ぶチㄤ龟臮筁硂и-
盽本娩碻亥秈琌浇Α碻亥秈㎡芖秨﹍チ˙ワ10ぇず竒匡羆参翠耕芖Ν秨﹍チ秈祘瞷薄猵翠筁10ぃ穦Τチ秈祘
糕蚌┚某弧и磂и稱硂琌籔и耴み薄Τ闽霉不瓣某弧碸﹚眃璹笻はよㄏ莉26眎匡布讽匡ミ猭Ыи籔常琌よ讽匡琌и眔26 000眎匡布и钡琌崔チ毙▅⊿Τ稲瓣稲翠ê贺チ壁稰薄и稱せиㄆ龟ョ稰㏄瞅癬笴︽ê贺稲瓣薄胔讽礛讽現獀э跑稲瓣薄胔よΑ穦э跑劣锣稱盢ㄓ妓稱ぃ硄琌╯澈翠︙匡︽現﹛︙痷タ辅龟瓣ㄢ翠獀翠
程и稱ノ翴丁酵酵计︗ㄆ干琖皇某ㄇ贱兜Ги玡糭﹋ぃ產Τ猔種щ布А琌˙硂穦某芔и獺и箋贱倒ê碞琌⊿Τ把щ布Ω计程贱︙琌硂ぃщ布㎡產稱稱材琌霉不瓣痴и痷璶弧ㄆみ羘產癸痴晃繷胔Τ借好材琌郭Θ某и粄醚琌カ現Ы某毒浪膀瞶琌иびび厩硂иǎ郭Θ某Τ瞷τ玻ネ稰牟и稱蛤弧и-
眖現璶ッ环癘眖現ヘ琌或и-
╯澈琌璶稦ㄇㄆ临琌璶︑暗ㄇㄆ辨郭Θ某镑稱睲贰稦ㄇㄆ琌﹚璶︑稦羆ぇ稦眔ㄆ薄獽琌Θ狦盽盽拜︑暗琘︗竚璶匡┪琌或ㄤ龟竒琌а癘璶硓筁êㄇ︗竚稦稱稦ㄆ硂计ぱㄓи-
Τ诀穦稦ㄇи-
稱稦ㄆ堡岿ア诀穦и-
ぃ琌璶ㄓ絴и辨產Τ诀穦はи-
產㎝璉春璝︙穦Τ硂或だ
谅谅畊
ヴ到圭某璓勉谅谅畊翠纯竒砆嘿"ㄓ丁ㄓよ"(Borrowed Time, Borrowed Place)瞷硂ㄓ丁盢筁ㄓよ盢耴临筁κき玡100ㄤ龟琌到朝琌程50挡硑碞翠Θ程膀セи稱Τ7
(1) ︓き箂丁畉ぃい瓣穨の坝穨弘璣ㄤい琌盿癩碔醚のм砃庢撮翠
(2) ︓瞷ΩΤ秖の撮翠矗ㄑ稧基骋のм砃醚だ单
(3) 約狥对骋竊稽のΤ克杯狟ねΘ地勾τ盿ㄓ瓣悔芠"对骋"ㄏ翠戳骋盞栋穨竒蕾砰╰ǔ硉祇甶"竊稽"盿ㄓ坝穨蔼痲笲の蔼κだゑΜ硓筁纗籛蝗︽τΘщ戈伦玴セ窥瓣悔芠ㄏ翠地璣瓣ぇ祇甶籔禩诀穦
(4) 璣瓣猭獀╰参碙︑パの舦矗ㄑ▆現獀の坝穨吏挂琵︑パ祇揣┮ま瓣悔щ戈
(5) 璣瓣ゅ﹛珹現叭﹛の硄阶秸╰参のま璣瓣龟叭竒喷絋龟翠琁︽▆恨獀よΑ
(6) 崔チ現┎"ぶ暗ぶ岿"み瞶ぇ秖竨叫臮拜Θミ贺吭高〆穦琘ㄇ絛氓玥ヴ蹦"縩伐ぃ箇竡"種Θ碞程Θ︑パ竒蕾砰╰
(7) 计ㄓ翠常ㄉΤだ︑パτ程チ硋˙祇甶琵翠硂瓣悔カ璓籔奸瑈ㄏ痙翠瓣ョぃ耞瑈翠い﹁ゅて翠Τじてユ瑈程い瓣嘲秨芖チ祇甶ㄢ─竒翠锣禩碩糤チㄓ┕繵羉硂ちㄏ翠現獀竒蕾のゅてよ钵眒
眖ê或膀セㄓ地籔璣瓣骋畉ぃ琌ささら常猔跌翠膥尿玂玃ㄏㄤΘ堡程ㄢㄊ癸翠ガЫㄏ谋眔い瓣現┎稱竒蕾龟︽"瓣ㄢ"現獀玥碭稱跑"瓣"ㄒ琌辊眏笲"伴匡庢"の眏秸獀单竒蕾籔現獀ㄤ龟琌ぃだ澄安現獀癶竒蕾常﹚紇臫"表"瓣ㄢㄏ癸翠玡硚稰紐納癸甽ㄢ─邻参丁琌璽计
羆服碸﹚眃ネ盢瞒埃玃秈翠チ︽現ㄏ场龟琁"狝叭┯空"矗蔼琁現瞯翠カチ矗ㄑㄎ狝叭┮絋龟璣瓣篴篗癶
臮翠筁Θ碞セЫ莱カチ璣瓣笵よ稱翠ゼㄓ留紐и-
痷璶癸翠疭︽現跋腀辨"瓣ㄢ翠獀翠"镑痷タΝら龟瞷
セ略朝勉や某谅谅
独綺笽某璓勉畊и獺產单┮Τい瓣常弧单κき单Τさぱ崔チ程Ω穦某い璣瓣筁さぱ碞ぃ穦Τ崔チミ猭Ыи-
莱︙硂κき璣瓣参獀菌㎡и-
笵秨﹍琌琿拎菌翠ぃ琌い瓣瓣幵ョ琌璣瓣瓣幵讽璣瓣琌ノ买ㄓ崩綪緙废礛徤翠琌瞷и-
讽礛笵硂计ㄓ璣瓣絋р翠眖膟膟礚よ跑Θ庢籇カτ璣瓣絋ョ翠痙▆猭獀やΤそ叭钉ヮΤ砏瞯笲だ▆︑パカ初琌и-
﹍沧ぃа癘翠琌摧ぃ常カ璣瓣﹍沧常琌⊿Τ斌恨瞶舦﹍沧盢恨瞶舦╟╟磝搐もいぃ甧砛翠Τ讽產
畊狦翠⊿Τ秨﹍チ灸矮⊿Τ舦杠さぱ硂某穦讽い┤琌硈硂ㄇ稬チΘだ⊿Τ硂ㄇㄤ龟琌и-
翠硂20ㄓㄓτぃ琌璣瓣界
璣瓣琌虑地地よΑセ弘璣狝叭璣瓣ぃ⊿Τ崩笆翠チてはτゎ翠チ˙ワ狦璣瓣Ν獽龟︽獶崔チて临現チミ猭Ы砞ミ匡某畊杠戳獽ぃ穦瞷ê或玂羘は癸チ狦讽抖莱チ種ま匡и-
獽莱赣Τ龟悔竒喷靡匡ぃぃ穦端甡翠はτㄏ現┎現郸禟ち翠穦惠―膀セ猭ョぃ穦糶眔瞷玂ㄊ玂﹛贡ョぃ穦碸﹚眃現эよ笻は膀セ猭虑管ミ猭Ы猭戳管и-
翠カチチ舦и-
临﹚璶癘眔碸﹚眃よ﹍沧ぃ筁翠チ盿ㄓ灿˙ワ眖讽ミ猭Ы臛阶い眔ê蛤翠癸チ匡璶―ご琌Τ环环禯瞒┮菌痷华琌璣瓣ぃ琌瞒秨ぇ玡倒翠盿ㄓチτ琌璣瓣︑╬︑崔チ参獀稱ㄏ翠チて笲笆螟
耴挡и-
κ瓣幵⊿Τи-
翠秆叉и-
︑翠幵癲κ玡翠眖睲瓣参獀摧チ跑Θ璣瓣崔チ摧チ耴瓣翠┤ご礛琌砆参獀Θぃ︑パそチるらぇ翠ご礛ぃ讽產ご礛ぃ︑匡︑現┎㎝某穦ぃ匡程続讽翠狝叭羬ミ猭穦Θミそ猭そガ常癶瞒秨崔チ翠澈礛耕ご崔チ眔ぶチ︑パ㎝舦讽チㄉΤチ膀セ猭临璶膥尿玠и-
砏﹚翠Τ单チτ琌ず常礚猭э翠㎝翠㏑笲ご礛ぃ琌翠┮∕﹚翠ご礛璶г砆参獀幵癲讽и-
佰瓣簈癬ㄓぃ腀種暗ィ刘-
琵и-
產膥尿埃硂翠幵癲ぃ璶暗ィ刘琵и-
ミ匡現┎の某穦硂ミ猭Ы戳琌砆竬辟и辨翠癸チ琌ッ环ぃ穦氨ゎ
и︑琌緿膟地ōだミ猭Ы6и克㎝иκㄓ衡琌い瓣暗翴ㄆи-
琌膟地и-
稱砰瞷ンㄆê獽琌莱赣Τ舦匡拒︑瓣膟礛︑み稲狝叭и辨るらぇиご礛硂狝叭腊翠腊い瓣-
莱Τ舦
馋莱某璓勉谅谅畊い瓣︑ㄓ琌搂竡ぇü癸璣瓣硂κき翠参獀и稱иぃ穦у蝶"そ笵︑み"はτи穦谅腊い瓣盿硂箈ブ盿ê或临逞ㄢぱ獽ユい瓣
и簍勉惠璶笵ㄣ笷и尺舧︽êΤい瓣Τ︽ゲ穦禦ㄇも獺禦ㄇ︑尺舧狥﹁ㄓ︽Τ矪碞琌猋洁ぃ薄秨┹︑泊讽礛矪獽琌shopping禦狥﹁
材ン琌緗ǔ钩硂琌﹁春紈马病緗ǔ弧ゅ彻钩钩щ簀и谋眔и-
ミ猭Ы某某臛阶㎝щ布琌瞷さщ簀ぃ虫ゎ琌щ簀琌礟鲤琌玂徖翠穦カチ礟鲤и辨盢ㄓ翠疭跋現┎ミ猭诀篶い–Θ常琌瞷緗ǔノи-
某臛阶㎝щ布ㄓ暗疭跋щ簀礟㎝鲤蝴臔翠︑パチ
材ン琌垂瞴иа琌︙矪潦禦瞴琌だ腞и辨и-
膥尿玂и-
腞瞴ッ环常妓ぃ砆γ琕Τ弧и-
瞷ネよ琌ゼㄓㄓよ狦и-
稱盢ㄓи-
甝Τ瞓и-
赣眖さぱ秨﹍荷и-
秖玂臔и-
瞷タ﹡︘瞴
硂瞴琌硓硓瞴腞и妓辨盢ㄓ疭跋現┎Τ蔼硓カチ睲贰笵現┎笲
程ン琌и镁︽潦禦ぺ疭订返и稱產穦粄眔讽и镁祅ぺ疭订返┮郴稰谋ぺ疭订返ê贺动岸稱癬讽镁ü祇笷蛤иい瓣嘲┮稰猠螺眣眣ぱê贺稰谋痷琌Τ钵ΡぇМ
ぺ疭订返ㄏи稱材ンㄆê獽琌镁祇甶ㄓチ︑パ弘紇臫の﹁よ穦计ㄓ現獀祇甶и辨盢ㄓ疭跋現┎穦膥尿ри-
ミ猭Ы硂ㄓ秨承チ︑パ弘祇喘痷タ暗"翠獀翠蔼︑獀"
谅谅畊
ッ笷某璓勉︗Ν贬
畊иさ祇ēぶ琌糶絑硂Ω琌и程Ω祇ē┮糶Ωタ竒絑
畊崔チ参獀盢璶挡璶癸崔チ参獀い蝶基ぃ甧安и钩芖琭法┪镀妓苂喘璣瓣竡翠参獀κ﹚穦砆ри弧Θ攀刺崔チ参獀┪琌簙
翠璓―祇甶竒筁κ锣跑璣瓣翠秨甶猭獀そ叭╰参の稧间現┎い瓣灸矮承硑翠菌螺吏臮地瓣產の跋ㄒ芖い瓣穝℡翠の緿よ程㎡い瓣嘲ご︑パ猭獀竒蕾瘤礛癬˙瞒い瓣瞶稱瓣ご礛环芖竒蕾猭獀芠├痢畓匡庢砱γ腨穝籇︑パごゼだ祇揣瘤Τ匡瞒瞶稱瞷穦临琌环穝℡钩丁パ縒掉克ゴ瞶洛皘妓и︘ㄢ琍戳╄ぃΤ炊匡τ⊿Τ︑パ5よぇいи程稲翠都方礚阶璣瓣纯竒翠莉筁或疭舦の痲礚粄璣瓣癸翠琌Τ癪膍
筁璣瓣の現┎翠崩笆︑パチ盢奴竜硂籔ㄓい瓣現┎┮嘿臕籔いよ緿覆靛現┎︙ゑ耕㎡籔いよ碞穦砆蔼崩盧硂琌臮ㄆ龟瞷禜и-
緿そ叭セて暗眔琌竒蕾祇甶琌痷ê或現獀琌じて獀琌ê或眖硂à獶ㄆㄆ種いよ現┎ぃ阶琌翠┎临琌ゼㄓ疭跋現┎痷タミ︑現┎恨獀獺
ㄆさぱ弧癸⊿Τ硄ó稰框狙иぃ觅Θ硂猭1祏既チ耞瓂ぃゎチó膥尿е硉玡秈安и-
Τ︗硁畓羆服讽礛и-
琌Τ硄ó﹚琌Τ縵匡Τ磟匡筁祘︓き匡庢ぃ琌チ匡庢礚粄5現獀岭芬ㄏ翠腳禥揭羆服碸﹚眃矗眶翠癸チ︑パ禗―硂贺芠├琌╟╟从翠福ぇい硂贺ずて基琌ッ环ぃ穦アи璶稰谅碸﹚眃ミ秨カチ璽砫現┎楚膀娄硂贺跑て盢┑尿︓疭跋現┎ㄏ翠沧ネノ┮埃︑の︽現穦某赋地┮┯钡セ琌碸﹚眃Α現┎のゅて
畊癸и硂驹ネ眖ㄓ⊿Τ︑い瓣嘲硂瓣ネ筁翠い瓣瓣瞒︑琂ョ环讽и临琌厩ネ纯把籔厩ネ笲笆瓣篊篊┰秨и砆讽肚瞏瞏稰琕癸穦竡玻ネ讥缉珼癬︑チ壁稰薄︑ぃ耞碝い璣酵и琌秈˙砆"瓣ㄢ蔼︑獀翠獀翠"腞讥缉┮ま羛羘碞琌玃ㄏиミв把現畊и癸︑硂匡拒眖⊿Τ筁ぃ阶琌竒э▆崔チ現┎ы┪琌縒掉︑現┎иㄏ㏑ご礛妓碞钩и-
盽佰"い瓣冠"簈迭妓"иみи冠㎝冠–冠方︑独猠5 000礚计い瓣冠ず甧﹍沧"畊иΤ獺みиΤネぇ货璏琌穦ネ碔ì︑パ贾τи-
瓣碞琌痷タ碔眏岸瓣谅谅畊
某璓勉谅谅畊и稱禗笷临琌ぃ糶絑ゑ耕и痷猋洁そ渤畊狟ね-
焙硂或弧龟硂臛阶琌иЫㄓ程磂ㄏ琌磂眔膥尿и璶量ㄇみ羘ョ琌痷港フ痷港ㄆぃΤ届
Τ闽硂某肈癸璣瓣150崔チ参獀иぃ稱弧びи谋眔翠琌㎝到琌莱赣Ττ礚莱赣Ττ礚и-
莱赣癸璣瓣現┎⊿Τ翠まチ稰框狙иΤ闽羆服琁現厨璓谅某いボ框狙┮иぃ穦弧框狙
骋舦痲よ硂ミ猭Ы琌疭ミ猭Ы150菌ずΤ琌硂ㄢ丁Τ诀穦硄筁ㄇ蛤膀糷の骋Τ闽玒ぃ現┎┮尺舧猭ㄒの舦痲堡琌ó┪耴и-
獽ぶ硂措笵盢ㄓぃ穦Τ诀穦矗某兵ㄒ硂单弧盢ㄓミ猭穦琌Τ玱⊿Τも㎝竲盢ㄓミ猭穦匡庢Θだョ穦搭ぶ旧璓骋舦痲诀穦搭ぶ
硂ミ猭Ыずи程稱酵酵琌バ玊某и稱琌籔и癸氮程某и璶稱禗硂ㄢずㄤ龟и琌猋洁и籔癬и瞏瞏稰琌翠程穦毙▅и獺ね-
琌钮拨祇ēフ︙璶快穦и谅腊и暗毙▅堡程硂ぱ盽иō娩弧紀猭
︓坝-
龟琌筁策篋ㄌ苦現┎-
快Тち环ㄓ弧硂琌ぃ胺眃翠程沧ゲ﹚ǐチêぱ坝璶把籔硂某穦笴栏-
琌把籔坝渤戈セ竡穦琌パ坝現囊磅現-
莱赣稱稱︙ㄏ︑硓筁匡布眔チやτぃ琌ㄌ苦現┎蠢-
快Тち┪辨碻秈某穦辨Τぱ產痷粄粄痷痷把籔硂某穦笴栏
璶酵琌筁ㄢи-
弧幅籔羛и谋眔硂ㄢず幅籔羛某穦ず闽玒碞ì妓и-
Τ穦癬ǐΤ玱琌┪蔡и-
ㄢì辨產癬玡ǐ碞朝胞糭某弧穦瞷畃癹隔锣薄猵硂琌иだぃ稱︓チ囊琎ぱバ玊某р-
囊иぃ笵琌弧и讽-
囊豁и辨琌硂種痷Τ囊瞷跑Θ19布2布羆Τ21布琖皇某弧チ羛琌秈˙程еиョ稱弧-
琌ど眔程еど琌顶ミ初ど種Τ闽チ產弧иぃ稱弧び-
痷琌てて祘琌硂ㄢ琍戳ず荷硂某穦荷疭跋快そ荷翠璣現┎и-
璓穛程и璶弧琌程篏獽琌さ边摧︑
谅谅產
︙玊く某璓勉畊秨﹍钮︙┯ぱ某计︗酵╬竒菌会Τ届程讽礛ョΤ痷み弧杠タ某┮弧痷薄眔ㄓΤぶ砛↖ぃ璶ノ"磂"硂
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タ琌ê竤は砱γ笲笆いゅ笲笆敞辰笲笆は筿杠基к某砐翠к某崔チ繦い腑︓ê琌溃刮砰秨﹍ゥ▅и-
跋舱麓穦そ蝶某穦ρ舦痲穦单篊篊较ネ翠井籈秖穦そ竡翠拜肈琌產炊筂闽猔琌把現刮砰獽Θミи籔独綺笽某单癬承ミびキ厩穦ê临Τチそ竡穦の蹲翴い腑把現刮砰秨﹍秈某穦把現ョΤチ膀セ猭笲笆タΑ秨﹍Θミ現囊Τ︑パ囊翠幅チ囊のチ单い腑秈˙莱赣琌或㎡莱赣琌現囊硓筁某穦匡庢舱麓現┎磅現硂琌タ盽祇甶堡瞷部˙ぃ玡璶部˙ぃ笵и稱產穦稰框狙ぃ筁и-
瞷タ琌癸硂妓Ыи-
ゲ斗膥尿灸矮
酵耴玡パ癑稰耴癸иㄓ弧┪癸иチㄆㄓ弧眖ㄓぃ琌拜肈и-
盽弧计и-
痷み獺杠и稱產来眔搬ê獽琌"闽み穦胔瓣泊"и-
盽Τ闽い瓣癬酵Τ闽い瓣祇甶и-
琌眖瞶┦粄醚稰┦粄產琌璓琌痷港Ч⊿Τ耴硂拜肈и-
ぃノ钩┮弧墩羛羘箋ガ琌獽璶篊篊ゥ▅稲瓣稰薄篊篊毙▅贺稲瓣芠├┪琕稲瓣荐薄и谋眔и-
痷礚斗讽い璣穦酵牟罣翠氯堵ㄇ禦︓10じ禬カ初砆穖潦Τ逼びキΤ辨璣瓣硂玂痙ㄇ┑尿参獀и-
ê痷ㄓ竤ㄓи-
琌礚兵ンЧや耴Τ翴琌и-
┮獺ê獽琌璶辅龟"瓣ㄢ翠獀翠"ㄏ翠膥尿镑蝴羉篴铆﹚琌惠璶Τチ⊿Τチ琌ぃΘ︓さぱи-
ご礛獺硂翴┮и-
さぱご礛璶膥尿灸矮
и-
い瓣薄胔琌ぃ惠璶或ē粂ㄓ笷и-
眏秸и-
┮稲瓣產琌珹и-
瓣產菌ゅて办チ讽現┎琌チ痲и-
穦稲拦玱ぃ現┎磝舦τ稲拦┪稲拦êㄇ磝舦烩砈
畊и程稱酵酵獺みи稱眏秸翴ê獽琌獺み琌ンㄆ癸иㄓ弧ê莱琌┯踞拜肈τ獶獺み拜肈ㄏ琌程胊獺み┪琌Ч⊿Τ獺みи-
琌璶┯踞硂琌и-
よи-
產秏い瓣琌и-
瓣產┮и-
斗璽硂砫ヴタи-
癸產斗璽砫ヴ妓礚阶и-
谋眔琌︙ぃ钮杠ぃいノ-
﹍沧琌眔荷腊-
毙▅-
ぃ阶琌或薄猵ぇぃ阶и-
琌磀芠┪贾芠眔縩伐щ把籔灸矮程и-
よ琌荐疨钡耴よи-
琌荡癸ぃ穦а癘チ灸矮
霉璓某璓勉畊и籔ッ笷某はиミ猭Ыㄓ畉ぃ–絞簍勉常琌ㄆ玡非称さΩи玱⊿Τ非称иセЫㄓㄤいン程疭ㄆ琌畊уи佰簈纯胺Θ某弧и璶砮过﹍沧さ边莱佰簈и谋眔睲Ν佰簈钩蔓伙妓┮祔и佰
硂兜某肈琌癳璣瓣現┎и谋眔狦纗㎝羆服差瞒秨и-
癳︽杠и-
ぃ琌癳ǐ璣瓣τ琌癳ǐ-
窖и-
ō崔チōだ癳ǐぃ琌ㄇτ琌ōだ眖àㄓ癳ǐ硂ōだい瓣ōだ琌るら獽穦︑礛玻ネи临ゼビ叫疭跋臔酚獺璶荷е逼钉近耕Ν玡иǎΤ逼钉ビ叫┮筐ㄇビ叫临穦еㄇ
癳ǐ崔チōだи稱ンㄆ碞琌俱翠ぇ┮瞷琌緙驹緙驹翠琿祏既丁ずぃ妮い瓣场だτΘよ琵ㄇい瓣驹秆発瞒︑產堕ㄓ磷螟硂钩だベ琂钩幵癲τ瓜痙琵и-
ダ硂ミ產堕
璣瓣ǐи-
钮ン籔緙Τ闽ㄆ碞琌Ги玡猴腹"IQ痴"独﹜グ某┮矗"弘緙"穦褐琌盿ㄓ"弘緙"さぱㄆ纯矗のチ˙ワ拜肈Τ粄びеΤ粄び篊讽礛癸チ囊ㄓ弧翠チ琌ㄓ眔び筐穦褐и稱矗芠翴碞琌翠褐祇甶眔び筐硂ぃ琌緙籔拜肈パ祇甶眔び筐程癬˙び篊┮瞷璶眖话猳祇玱綝у蝶"ó反"妓チㄓ眔び筐瞷璶硉祇甶綝у蝶チ˙ワ祇甶眔びе褐羬妓薄猵κ筐筐ぃ祇甶瞒秨玡玱稱е祇甶硉︑礛稴ㄓу蝶и獺埃チ拜肈褐拜肈琌璣瓣現┎瞒秨翠眔稰框狙ぇ矪
璣瓣ǐごΤ拜肈ゼ莉矪瞶璶焙禥︗1,500じ18 000ρご单︘臔瞶ρ皘Τ计窾矪í砲篈翠泵ゃ硂ㄇ贺贺拜肈ぃ︙莉眔秆∕拜︙ご穦Τê或拜肈и稱佰簈"The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind"и砮过﹍沧琌佰簈и稱叫產ǐ跋い钮獽穦睲贰笵氮иぃ稱酵硂氮и稱產ぃ璶某ㄆ芔ず癚阶ぃ璶快そずτ璶
さぱㄆ璓谅иぃ稱狡и穦┮Τㄆ纯璓谅┮Τ璓谅ぃ筁и临璶ㄇ璓谅碞琌êㄇ硂ㄢず癸и腊Γぃぶ-
琌竤竤穝簿チ竤竤ρ竤竤虫克㎝-
狟ねの狝叭ㄏノ產妮㎝產-
硂ㄢ戳丁倒ぉи種ǎ︓弧琌パ-
聾郸и狦и硂ㄢずΤヴ︙Θ罿ㄤ龟琌耴-
畊и略朝勉
独﹜グ某璓勉畊硂虫и笵籔и硂某穦êу某瞷緇15竒筁6ㄆи钮竒ㄥ弘ㄤい程и螟а琌琖皇某弧讽и-
タ╯穦某庢︽戳丁琌砛废弧"и⊿Τは癸废琌ぃ糛"и谋眔硂琌籔и程だぇ矪ぃ废иぃ废琵废玱ぃ砛糛废иぃ穦ぃ砛糛废糛废и暴Τ锣硂琌︑パ穦
и獺и-
60某Τ60贺縒ミ稱琌и-
ㄌ礛ユ狟ねㄏ現囊いㄇ拜肈╉眔糉甡穦Τ伐狠種ǎ現囊﹟︙猵硂某穦㎡и谋眔現ǎぃぃゴ候ㄌ礛ユ狟ねиさぱ蔼砍眎ゅ某癸и弧ら璓筿и逗盾и弧讽礛伐硂靡и-
現ǎㄏぃㄌ礛ユ狟ねи癸┮Τ某常⊿Τこ寄ぇみ-
┮弧杠瘤礛籔и種ǎぃи琌碙-
и獺狦翠穦膥尿硂妓碞痷Τ辨
谅谅畊
谅ッ闹某璓勉畊и笵иΤ诀穦祇ē┮Τ種ǎ常穦倒矗筁τиぃ稱狡ㄤ某種ǎ珺紌┮畊и璶ノよΑ笷
Welcome to the morning news:
Here are the main headlines:
- One-person-one-vote direct election to take place soon;
- Housing speculation under control; and
- Illegal immigration to China on the rise.
An unidentified spokesperson from the Office of the Chief Executive admitted late last night that the proportional representation election held in 1998 was a mistake. The landslide victory of the democrats was a major embarrassment for the Special Administrative Region (SAR) government. In order to prevent the democrats from winning again, the next election will be in the form of 60 directly elected seats in the Legislative Council. Sources close to China confirmed that the election of the Chief Executive will also be on a one-person-one-vote basis. New electoral registration will soon be required. Reliable information suggests that eleven million people in Hong Kong will be required to register.
The cost of real estate went up again by another 10% last month. However, the Secretary for Housing claimed that there was no speculation in Hong Kong. He says the market is expected to be stable in the range of $2,000 to $3,000 per sq ft.
Still on the housing issue. Vacancies in public housing have increased in recent months. Spokesperson from the SAR Government suggests that this may be a direct consequence of an over-supply of land. Reliable sources urge residents to apply early. Immediate occupancy is guaranteed.
After the setting up of the Human Rights Commission in 2003, our station carried out an opinion poll. Results indicate that residents have become more positive toward the SAR Government. The Hong Kong Freedom and Human Rights Index has gone up 88 points. The recent emigration rate has dropped by another 2%.
A group of 800 people were caught in Guangzhou last night after being smuggled into the city from Hong Kong. The use of aircraft for illegal immigration purposes is on the rise. The Chief Executive is worried and has agreed to set up a committee to investigate the situation.
The United States was granted permanent Most Favoured Nation (MFN) trading status by China. Professor S. K. LAU of the Chinese University speculated that it was in return for the United States Consulate's attendance at the inaugural ceremony of the now deceased Provisional Legislature.
We now turn to business news:
Shares in Diao Yu Islands' business are expected to increase again. According to the Wall Street Journal, the fishing and tourist trades will grow by 66% in the coming year.
The Hang Seng Index was up another 138 points today and stayed at an all time high 108 000 points.
Now, the sports news:
Veteran tennis star Michael CHANG, who recently retired, revisited Hong Kong and played at the centre court in the Minzhu (チ)Sports Stadium. He won the game 8-9, 6-4, 6-4.
The fifth annual football match between the Legislative Council (1996-97) team and Provisional Legislative Council team was held earlier. Final score 3-0. Winning the game, the Honourable Albert CHAN scored twice. While Andrew WONG scored once in the first half when he played in the Legislative Council team, after switching sides, he failed to score in the second half. (Laughter)
The weather report is sponsored by the Chinese Commercial Party:
According to the Hong Kong Observatory, a heavy rain signal is expected to be hoisted later this evening.
Education Department has already announced that "All schools will be closed tomorrow."
Social Welfare Department, undaunted by the weather warning, announced that "Individualized Home Help Services will continue tomorrow." So, senior citizens need not worry about the impending storm front.
Fellow Council Members, the above news announcement was only a dream. Let us hope it portends good things to come. Let us protect human rights, fight for democracy, maintain the rule of law and make Hong Kong a free, just and peaceful society.
Farewell London! Welcome Beijing!
畊瞷琌"いゅ"╧癸杠"侈и矗弧加璶ユ祙加基ミ莱羘禴弧и琌ぃ癬"
"糑иゑぃ癬и禦丁┬琵иㄠ厩Τよ凡竲加基ミど弧ぃ癬临琌иぃ癬"
Τㄢ菏夯ずユ酵"и祔痴夯舧み獽莉搭弧и琌ぃ癬"
"糑иぃ癬и嫁ゴ獽ミ夯弧琌临琌иぃ癬"
Τㄢ厩ネ癸杠"侈禬筁Θ厩щ布匡и讽痁弧и琌ぃ癬"
"糑иぃ癬и辅匡ご讽痁ヴ弧–痁常璶〆ヴ痁弧琌临琌иぃ癬"渤
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ゲ斗膥尿チ
セ略朝勉磝羘
独岸藉某璓勉畊セㄓ竒筁谅ッ闹某給溃禸栏иぃ莱祇ēㄆ龟и⊿Τ非称钮馋莱某ぺ疭订返碩礶弧珿ㄆи稱弧碭杠
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畊さぱ硂某琌и-
璣瓣笵腀翠疭︽現跋膥尿﹚羉篴翠倒璣瓣28恨產恨瞶κきκ筁︑Τそ阶иぃ稱冈酵ぃ筁璣瓣現┎ㄆ龟倒翠盿ㄓ獶盽Чи-
Τ竤纔╭そ叭蒥チ对灸秈┮祏祏计丁瞷ㄈ瑆︓常泊竒蕾螺
讽礛и-
辨るら翠疭︽現跋穦膥尿﹚羉篴琌璶膥尿玂﹚羉篴獶綼竒蕾︙翠竒蕾祇笷㎡硂琌綼▆綼蒥チ对灸綼и-
纔╭そ叭τ程璶琌и-
﹚璶玂瞷兵や琖チ︑パ舦㎝猭獀и獺セЫ–︗ㄆ常笵瓃兜璶┦
チㄆ纯弧璣瓣倒翠盿ㄓチだΤи-
璶ぃ耞и-
眔ㄇ稬チ堡и-
耴い瓣瞷はτ琌チ癶璣瓣崔チ参獀и-
礚猭璙―Τ祘チ街耴い瓣眔祘チ硂腀辨璶辅ぇи-
チ現祇甶琌紐納匡庢穦皐癸и-
チ囊Θ╯澈-
┤或
︑パи獺и-
ㄆ︓穝籇狟ね︓羆服纯そ秨弧紐納ē阶︑パ㎝穝籇︑パ硂ㄢンㄆ癸秨穦琌だ璶安и-
–р〤ぺ癬︓硈穝籇砆癬〤ぺ硂琌磀
舦琌琍戳и-
臛阶Τ闽щ禗牡诡拜肈纯矗のи-
盽Τ腹碞琌"牡舦礚舦礚玂毁"ㄆ龟翠牡钉琌や纔╭钉ヮи-
ぃ⊿Τ菏诡礚阶妓纔╭牡钉讽い璶Τㄇ胊だτи-
ぃ矪瞶杠碞穦腨瘆胊俱牡钉羘臕
猭獀讽礛琌程璶吏礚阶獀┪砱γよ瓣悔щ戈常辨ㄣΤそキ膙吏挂竒犁安俱穦砱γ脖︽竒アそキ膙诀穦и-
獽礚猭ま癩刮┪щ戈ㄓ翠硂羉篴よ膥尿щ戈
耴ぃ琌虫綼簈籖狜キ獽陪ボи-
翠蒥チ獺みи谋眔ゼㄓ疭跋現┎﹚璶獺ヴ翠蒥チい瓣程尺舧量"獺"硂礚阶暗或常璶量硂┮ウだ璶ㄆи-
璶が獺安и-
疭跋赋地ネ籔и-
﹛㎝そ叭⊿Τが獺闽玒и獺現郸崩︽常穦锚
材疭跋現┎癸и-
チ璶Τ"獺"珹"ēτΤ獺"癸и-
獺ヴ狦ぃ獺ヴ蒥チ碞穦矪矪砞ň恒玥俱穦猑㎝秨祘常穦腨ゴ阑
Τ弧杠и硂Ω竒琌弧材筂碞琌иぃ踞み翠チ︑パ舦㎝猭獀穦紇臫┪篟反и踞み琌翠ず场ㄇ琂眔痲穦蝴臔╬τ篟反翠局ΤΤチ︑パ舦㎝猭獀и-
踞み琌-
穦с炳翠チ︑パ舦㎝猭獀и辨и-
镑膥尿徖и-
チ︑パ舦㎝猭獀
谅谅畊
郭Θ某璓勉畊璣瓣翠龟︽150恨獀硂琌崔チ恨獀恨獀и-
さ程ミ猭Ы菌程Τ┦硂兜臛阶琌璣瓣笵и稱ぃ酵酵ミ猭Ы临Τ種㎝ちō
硂碭ぱи-
臮臛阶⊿Τ或丁瞏σи琌何眶癘常拜и-
虏虫拜肈и禭诀Ω筁氮-
拜肈琌и程猋洁︗某и谋眔–囊Τㄇ纔╭某и–囊い常匡︗某琌и粄程纔╭程眔и猋洁
材︗琌チ囊襖略ビ某и谋眔琌程对某現и籔穦玂ㄆ叭〆穦㎝兵ㄒ〆穦いㄆ谋眔癸ㄆ薄常ゑи非称眔┮矗拜肈瞏硂琌и盽璶厩策
碞玡帹τēи穦匡拒辩模┚某и匡ぃ琌Ги娩竒盽蛤и渡酵τ琌и粄琌だ痷港ㄏиぃ種Ω祇ē阶﹍沧ê琌︑ずみ猭
チ羛よи穦匡-
嘿"稴ぷ"朝挪狶某–Ω祇ē瘤礛某常穦竤癬ю阑驹矮┏瞷穦阁禫だ绊︑猭τ–Ω常睲贰弧種ǎ
︓羛穦и穦匡朝胞糭某セЫ玡и笵琌︗だ对笵み種骋ㄆ叭
︑パ囊よи穦匡糂胺祸某–Ω祇ēи硄盽常穦灿み测钮穦暗ì非称ひ眖簍勉い暗╯┮硄盽и穦钩揭妓痙み测钮祇ē盽谋莉痲▆荡ぃ篡初–Ω祇ē阶常だ冈灿睲贰弧ミ初
翠秈羛よи穦匡Χギ棚某и稱癬獽穦稱癬簈ㄤい4簈迭龟甧眔禟ちи瞷佰倒產钮"ッ环玡ッぃ氨˙碝―瞶稱﹍沧笷"Χ某ゑи-
耕淮某玱ぃ耞珼驹︑ッ环玡ッぃ氨˙
︓チ羛幅и穦匡ヴ到圭某眔琌┮︑笆讽匡衡琌匡庢陪Τ聋い瓣み讽セЫ產ㄤ龟現獀篈会螟荷秖暗チ羛幅ヘ夹
チ舦囊よи穦匡嘲糠某琌︑笆讽匡и畊チ舦囊承囊籈穦弧礷杠и盽癘み繷弧瞷眔某倒琿丁チ舦囊穦Θ翠磅現囊硂琌ヘ夹㎝瞶稱и谋眔パ硂环钩︓辨盢ㄓΘ翠磅現囊纔▆現郸ㄓ籔產膙硂琌翠穝┖и辨Θи笵ゼㄓ烦る盢穦だ羮ǒ
骋羛よи穦匡币某琌︑笆讽匡パГиō┮琌и骋ㄆ叭臮拜骋現郸и穦吭高種ǎ穦だ冈灿и秆睦莱︙矪瞶ㄤ龟現郸и琌紇臫и矗ㄑ计沮
Ν繺よи穦匡辩醇翬某緑程钩チ弘碞琌ぃ熬ぃи-
谋眔チㄤい贺弘碞琌縒ミσ︑︽∕﹚ㄤ龟琎边毒浪膀某纯矗のチㄇ猭
縒ミ某よи穦匡艷祸某и纯弄筁膟㎝ゅ彻疭琌厨级糶ゅ彻и⊿Τび丁秈︽╯猭芠翴иだ粄現獀耞よи-
璶縒ミσ┮穦籔だ笵喘胚
︓и︑┮妮チよи穦匡馋莱某иぃ匡毒浪膀某┪霉不瓣某и谋眔馋莱某钩瞷缠┦籔礚弧Чぃ琌現獀耞穦眔ての咎︑谋︽ㄆ硂妓穦ネ眔ゑ耕秨みе贾
程и稱弧弧セЫ畊и程框狙琌иセЫ砆匡畊渤琌瞴靡иぃ笵琌瞴硂ㄢㄓи⊿Τ诀穦钮筁碞臛阶祇ēぃ厩策硂и框狙и辨祔厩策
程虫ヲ昂某琎边иはи粄醚矗Τ種拜肈碞琌︙璶眖現и季み︑拜и琌拜み礚穃筁瘤礛產よΤぃミ初–ンㄆи常琌筁睲贰縒ミσ耞иやチ膀糷チ隔
程и稱弧и︙眖現Τ迭琌и躬纘и稱產弄羆挡"も礚隔换换礚ゎ挂繧и灸秈и薄ょ踞ㄢ珼禭獵琄挡︸玡︽"
畊и略朝勉
畊辩醇翬某琌ゴ衡祇ē氮臛Τ4だ牧
DR LEONG CHE-HUNG: Can I first say that I am a bit disappointed, and I am sure that goes for most of us in this Council, that the Government, the Administration, is not around at this valedictory motion. Not only are a lot of our remarks on them, our praises on them, have been wasted, but we have not been able to hear their views on us at this very last session of the legislature under British rule.
Personally, I am very grateful that so many Members have spoken so eloquently, starting with the small hours to late hours of this morning. They have expressed areas of their interests, their vision, their thoughts, their frustrations, and also brought back enriching memories of not just this Session but Sessions in the past, which to me symbolises and signifies the beauty and the bondage of this established institution of over a hundred years, this Hong Kong Legislative Council.
Let us hope that the culture of this institution can continue into the future for it is in this institution that the cradle, which is the cradle that the basis of the rule of law, is originated. It is for this reason that I think the 33 of us who will still be working in this Chamber for the next year or so should carry this particular culture forward for our new-comers.
Some of us in our speeches exhibit a sense of doom and gloom. This is understandable for the scepticism of the one country, two systems is not going to vanish with the fireworks of 1 July. Yet the feeling of doom and gloom will not disappear on its own. We have to work for it. Martin LUTHER KING once said, and this is something he usually says, "I have a dream". I think all of us around in this Council have a dream. If we do not have a dream we would have not joined this particular trade. But if we want this dream to come true, if we want to move one step forward towards the dream, then we have to start working for it. And can I quote John KENNEDY in saying that "let us begin".
There are a couple of legislators who, I think, might have gone home or left before the motion started, and did not actually speak in this motion debate. Now, it does not mean to say they are not participating. It does not mean to say they are not taking an active part in this institution, as like all sessions in the Legislative Council, not all Members speak. To them, let me offer a word which John MILTON said (John MILTON is an English poet, of course), and he said, "they also serve those who stand and wait".
Mr President, Winston CHURCHILL was asked on the closing days of the Second World War whether Hong Kong should be returned to China. "Over my dead body", he said. Well, Winston CHURCHILL is something of the past, but Hong Kong's reunification with China is imminent.
Mr President, for the last few days we have been more or less impounded in this building, like the gladiators of Rome in the Coliseum fighting for our beliefs. We have fought, we have perhaps even torn each other apart, but as the first light of the morning starts to shine in, in the dome of this building, let us all leave, go our different ways, but with one aim in mind, which is for the betterment of Hong Kong and its people.
Thank you, Mr President. But before I close, could I ask all Members to, or could I ask you, Mr President, to suspend Standing Orders to allow me to move a motion to let you, as the President, speak?
PRESIDENT: You do not have to, I also have this question. You do not have to worry about it, I will certainly speak to you.
Question on the motion put and agreed to.
某ぇ某肈竒窖∕莉硄筁
法此某畊и稱某︗ㄆ篤ボ谅畊ǒ骋
END OF SESSION
穦戳挡
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沮ミ猭Ы穦某盽砏иガセЫヰ穦尿礚戳In accordance with the Standing Orders of the Legislative Council, I now adjourn the Council, sine die.
Adjourned accordingly at Eight o'clock on 28 June 1997.
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