OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
ミ猭Ы穦某筁祘タΑ魁
Wednesday, 14 February 1996
せるら琍戳
The Council met at half-past Two o'clock
とだ穦某秨﹍
MEMBERS PRESENT
畊某
THE PRESIDENT
THE HONOURABLE ANDREW WONG WANG-FAT, O.B.E., J.P.
畊独Щ祇某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE MRS SELINA CHOW LIANG SHUK-YEE, O.B.E., J.P.
㏄辩睶┥某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LEE CHU-MING, Q.C., J.P.
琖皇某Q.C., J.P.
DR THE HONOURABLE DAVID LI KWOK-PO, O.B.E., LL.D. (CANTAB), J.P.
瓣腳某O.B.E., LL.D. (CANTAB), J.P.
THE HONOURABLE SZETO WAH
畕地某
THE HONOURABLE EDWARD HO SING-TIN, O.B.E., J.P.
︙┯ぱ某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE RONALD JOSEPH ARCULLI, O.B.E., J.P.
甃ㄎ瞶某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE MRS MIRIAM LAU KIN-YEE, O.B.E., J.P.
糂胺祸某O.B.E., J.P.
DR THE HONOURABLE EDWARD LEONG CHE-HUNG, O.B.E., J.P.
辩醇翬某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE ALBERT CHAN WAI-YIP
朝岸穨某
THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG MAN-KWONG
眎ゅ某
THE HONOURABLE CHIM PUI-CHUNG
糕蚌┚某
THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL HO MUN-KA
︙庇古某
DR THE HONOURABLE HUANG CHEN-YA, M.B.E.
独綺笽某M.B.E.
THE HONOURABLE EMILY LAU WAI-HING
糂紌某
THE HONOURABLE LEE WING-TAT
ッ笷某
THE HONOURABLE ERIC LI KA-CHEUNG, J.P.
產不某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE FRED LI WAH-MING
地某
THE HONOURABLE HENRY TANG YING-YEN, J.P.
璣某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN
襖略ビ某
DR THE HONOURABLE SAMUEL WONG PING-WAI, M.B.E., F.Eng., J.P.
独篿某M.B.E., F.Eng., J.P.
DR THE HONOURABLE PHILIP WONG YU-HONG
独﹜グ某
DR THE HONOURABLE YEUNG SUM
法此某
THE HONOURABLE HOWARD YOUNG, J.P.
法У地某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE ZACHARY WONG WAI-YIN
独岸藉某
THE HONOURABLE CHRISTINE LOH KUNG-WAI
嘲糠某
THE HONOURABLE JAMES TIEN PEI-CHUN, O.B.E., J.P.
バ玊某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE LEE CHEUK-YAN
某
THE HONOURABLE CHAN KAM-LAM
朝挪狶某
THE HONOURABLE CHAN WING-CHAN
朝篴篱某
THE HONOURABLE CHAN YUEN-HAN
朝胞糭某
THE HONOURABLE ANDREW CHENG KAR-FOO
綠產碔某
THE HONOURABLE PAUL CHENG MING-FUN
綠癡某
DR THE HONOURABLE ANTHONY CHEUNG BING-LEUNG
眎▆某
THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG HON-CHUNG
眎簙┚某
THE HONOURABLE CHOY KAN-PUI, J.P.
讲蚌某J.P.
THE HONOURABLE ALBERT HO CHUN-YAN
︙玊く某
THE HONOURABLE IP KWOK-HIM
腑瓣辆某
THE HONOURABLE LAU CHIN-SHEK
糂ホ某
THE HONOURABLE AMBROSE LAU HON-CHUEN, J.P.
糂簙煌某J.P.
DR THE HONOURABLE LAW CHEUNG-KWOK
霉不瓣某
THE HONOURABLE LAW CHI-KWONG
霉璓某
THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG
辩模┚某
THE HONOURABLE BRUCE LIU SING-LEE
郭Θ某
THE HONOURABLE MOK YING-FAN
馋莱某
THE HONOURABLE MARGARET NG
艷祸某
THE HONOURABLE NGAN KAM-CHUEN
肅繟某
THE HONOURABLE SIN CHUNG-KAI
虫ヲ昂某
THE HONOURABLE TSANG KIN-SHING
纯胺Θ某
DR THE HONOURABLE JOHN TSE WING-LING
谅ッ闹某
THE HONOURABLE MRS ELIZABETH WONG CHIEN CHI-LIEN, C.B.E., I.S.O., J.P.
独窥ㄤ军某C.B.E., I.S.O., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE LAWRENCE YUM SIN-LING
ヴ到圭某
MEMBERS ABSENT
畊某
THE HONOURABLE ALLEN LEE PENG-FEI, C.B.E., J.P.
腜某C.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE NGAI SHIU-KIT, O.B.E., J.P.
ぶ城某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE LAU WONG-FAT, O.B.E., J.P.
糂祇某O.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE FREDERICK FUNG KIN-KEE
毒浪膀某
THE HONOURABLE CHENG YIU-TONG
綠模磁某
THE HONOURABLE DAVID CHU YU-LIN
Χギ棚某
THE HONOURABLE LEE KAI-MING
币某
THE HONOURABLE LO SUK-CHING
霉睲某
PUBLIE OFFICERS ATTENDING
畊そ戮
THE HONOURABLE MRS ANSON CHAN, C.B.E., J.P.
CHIEF SECRETARY
︽現Ы某ガ現朝よネC.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE DONALD TSANG YAM-KUEN, O.B.E., J.P.
FINANCIAL SECRETARY
︽現Ы某癩現纯疆舦ネO.B.E., J.P.
THE HONOURABLE JEREMY FELL MATHEWS, C.M.G., J.P.
ATTORNEY GENERAL
︽現Ы某現皑碔到ネC.M.G., J.P.
MR MICHAEL SUEN MING-YEUNG, C.B.E., J.P.
SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS
現叭甝喘ネC.B.E., J.P.
MR CHAU TAK-HAY, C.B.E., J.P.
SECRETARY FOR RECREATION AND CULTURE
ゅ眃約冀㏄紈撼ネC.B.E., J.P.
MR HAIDER HATIM TYEBJEE BARMA, I.S.O., J.P.
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT
笲块纉ゅネI.S.O., J.P.
MR GORDON SIU KWING-CHUE, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR ECONOMIC SERVICES
竒蕾拷琖ネJ.P.
MR DOMINIC WONG SHING-WAH, O.B.E., J.P.
SECRETARY FOR HOUSING
┬独琍地ネO.B.E., J.P.
MR RAFAEL HUI SI-YAN, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES
癩竒ㄆ叭砛くネJ.P.
MR JOSEPH WONG WING-PING, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION AND MANPOWER
毙▅参膚ッキネJ.P.
MR PETER LAI HING-LING, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR SECURITY
玂兢紋圭ネJ.P.
MR BOWEN LEUNG PO-WING, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR PLANNING, ENVIRONMENT AND LANDS
砏购吏挂現辩腳篴ネJ.P.
MR LAM WOON-KWONG, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE
そ叭ㄆ叭狶坟ネJ.P.
MR KWONG KI-CHI, J.P.
SECRETARY FOR THE TREASURY
畐叭馣ㄤвネJ.P.
CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE
畊
MR RICKY FUNG CHOI-CHEUNG, SECRETARY GENERAL
毒更不ネ
MR LAW KAM-SANG, DEPUTY SECRETARY GENERAL
捌霉繟ネネ
MISS PAULINE NG MAN-WAH, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL
瞶ゅ地
MR RAY CHAN YUM-MOU, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL
瞶朝窜璟ネ
PAPERS
The following papers were laid on the table pursuant to Standing Order 14(2):
Subject
Subsidiary Legislation L.N. No.
Ferry Services (The "Star" Ferry Company, Limited)
(Determination of Fares) (Amendment)
(No. 2) Order 1996 68/96
Tramway Ordinance (Alteration of Fares)
(Amendment) Notice 1996 69/96
Banking Ordinance (Amendment of Seventh
Schedule) Notice 1996 70/96
Hong Kong Airport (Traffic) (Amendment)
Regulation 1996 72/96
Official Languages (Alteration of Text) (Boilers
and Pressure Vessels Ordinance) Order 1996 73/96
Immigration (Vietnamese Refugee Centres)
(Designation) (Consolidation) (Amendment)
Order 1996 74/96
Immigration (Vietnamese Refugee Centres)
(Open Centre) (Amendment) Rules 1996 75/96
Administration of Justice (Miscellaneous
Provisions) (No. 2) Ordinance 1995 (68 of 1995)
(Commencement) Notice 1996 76/96
Human Organ Transplant Ordinance (Cap. 465)
(Commencement) Notice 1996 77/96
Statutes of the Chinese University of Hong Kong
(Amendment) (No. 3) Statute 1995 78/96
Official Languages (Authentic Chinese Text)
(Boilers and Pressure Vessels Ordinance) Order (C) 13/96
Official Languages (Authentic Chinese Text)
(Commodity Exchanges (Prohibition) Ordinance)
Order (C) 14/96
ゅン
ゅン沮盽砏材14(2)兵砏﹚τユЫよ凝
兜ヘ
妮猭ㄒ 猭そ絪腹
1996寸近狝叭ぱ琍近Τそ
Μ禣∕﹚璹材2腹 68/96
1996筿ó兵ㄒ璹ó禣
璹そ 69/96
1996蝗︽穨兵ㄒ璹7そ 70/96
1996翠诀初ユ硄璹砏ㄒ 72/96
1996猭﹚粂ゅэゅセ
羚膌の溃甧竟兵ㄒ 73/96
1996チ挂禫玭螟チいみ﹚
侯璹 74/96
1996チ挂禫玭螟チいみ
秨いみ璹砏玥 75/96
1995猭馒兜砏﹚材2腹兵ㄒ
1995材68腹1996
ネら戳そ 76/96
砰竟﹛簿从兵ㄒ材465彻1996
ネら戳そ 77/96
1995翠いゅ厩砏祘璹
材3腹砏祘吧粇 78/96
猭﹚粂ゅいゅ痷絋セ
羚膌の溃甧竟兵ㄒ (C) 13/96
猭﹚粂ゅいゅ痷絋セ坝珇ユ┮
窽ゎ竒犁兵ㄒ (C) 14/96
Sessional Papers 1995-96
No. 57 Urban Council
Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the
Financial Year 1996-97
No. 58 Regional Council
Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure 1996-97
No. 59 Revisions of the 1995-96 Estimates approved by the
Urban Council during the third quarter of
the 1995-96 financial year
No. 60 The Hong Kong Academy for Performing Arts
Annual Report July 1994 to June 1995
No. 61 Li Po Chun Charitable Trust Fund Annual Report
for the period 1 September 1994 to 31 August 1995
No. 62 Trustee's Report on the Administration of the
Education Scholarships Fund
for the year ended 31 August 1995
き︓せ穦戳ず矗ゅン
材57腹 カ現Ы
1996︓97癩現Μや箇衡
材58腹 跋办カ現Ы
せ〓Μや箇衡
材59腹 き︓せ癩現
材﹗パカ現Ы硄筁
き︓せ癩現箇衡璹
材60腹 翠簍美厩皘厨
る︓きせる
材61腹 腳菹稯到獺癠膀
るら︓きるら厨
材62腹 毙▅贱厩膀癠
碞きるらゎ
恨瞶薄鶪┮级糶厨
Miscellaneous
Amendment to the Technical Memorandum on Noise from Construction Work in Designated Areas
Third Periodic Report in respect of Hong Kong under Articles 2-16 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights
馒兜
璹恨﹚絛瞅縱祘靖м砃称а魁
沮竒蕾穦ゅて舦瓣悔そ材2︓16兵矗ユΤ闽翠材Ω﹚戳厨
PRESIDENT: Honourable Members, I have received a request from a Member of this Council that this Council should observe silence in memory of those who have been killed in the hill fire at Pat Sin Range last Saturday. I have turned down the request.
Observing silence in memory of the dead is done, in this Council, concomitantly when obituary speeches are made. There are provisions in the Standing Orders of the Council for obituary speeches to be made at the sittings of this Council but parliamentary practice dictates that such speeches are made only on the occasion of the death of a Member of the Council or a distinguished statesman.
I certainly am, and I am sure all Honourable Members are, deeply saddened by the loss of lives and the injuries suffered as a result of the hill fire at Pat Sin Range. While I have the greatest sympathy for those who have died, and the highest respect for the teachers who have sacrificed their own lives when trying to save the lives of their pupils, I am afraid I cannot order the observance of silence in their memory at a sitting of this Council.
Members of the Council who wish to send their condolences to the families of those who have been killed in the fire, and to pay tribute to the teachers for their heroic and noble act, can of course do so personally.
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
Entry Requirements and Salary of Assistant Hawker Control Officer
1. 腑瓣辆某拜畊ネ挪ヘ玡瞶砪恨瞶ヴ戮羱筍籔牡戮羱筍钡τ蔼ㄤ场钉戮璝現┎セЫ
(a) 瞷瞶砪恨瞶ヴ戮兵ンの戮羱筍︙
(b) 讽Ы沮︙贺非玥络璹赣单兵ンの戮羱筍の
(c) 穦σ納祏戳ず浪癚砪恨瞶钉の牡钉场钉戮兵ンの戮羱筍
そ叭ㄆ叭氮畊ネ讽Ыい钮そ叭羱の狝叭兵ン盽叭〆穦某竒セЫㄆ絪舱〆穦у穝Θミ砪恨瞶钉硂∕﹚琌莱ㄢカ現Ы膀カチ種腀辨Τ恨砪拜肈τи癸腑某┮矗借高氮滦
(a) 瞶砪恨瞶ヴ戮兵ンの癬羱翴冈и氮滦ンA
(b) 戮兵ンの癬羱翴络﹚琌沮惠璶㎝砫ヴョ莉σ納
(i) 惠璶まΤ竒喷τ眖玡纯ㄆ叭钉盡砫砪恨瞶钉穝Θミ砪恨瞶钉
(ii) 惠璶矗蔼穝竨ノ戮キτ﹚羱ぃ穦耑睹ず场癸羱筍の
(iii) 惠璶矗蔼璶砞ミや盡砫矪瞶砪拜肈场钉ウΤ絋の︽戮︗琜篶
冈灿阶沮秨氮滦ンB
(c) и-
ヘ玡ゼΤゴ衡浪癚砪恨瞶钉のㄤ獶牡钉场钉戮兵ンの癬羱翴┷竨よ场钉瞷常ま秖戈菌τ恶干よョ⊿Τ拜肈硂薄鶪躬籖ョは琈穦癸场钉獶盽穛
ンA.1
瞶砪恨瞶ヴ戮兵ン
(a) 戮ビ叫斗ㄣ称戈
(i) 現┎狝叭骸τ瞷▆纯ヴ磅猭┪〓徊场钉ㄎ現┎いゅ┪璣ゅσ刚い眔の┪ㄣ称单厩菌ョい祘┪
(ii) 現┎狝叭骸τ瞷▆纯ヴ磅猭┪〓徊场钉ㄎ現┎いゅ┪璣ゅσ刚い眔の┪ㄣ称单厩菌ョい祘
(b) 钡戮ビ叫斗ㄣ称戈
(i) ЧΘい厩毙▅翠い厩穦σΘ罿笷E┪眔Τ闽厩菌ㄣΤ竒喷纯〓徊场钉のㄣ称籔カチ钡牟竒喷ㄎ┪
(ii) 翠い厩穦σきの珹璣ゅ揭祘ヒΘ罿笷E┪┪ㄣ单厩菌眔Τ闽厩菌ㄣΤㄢ竒喷纯〓徊场钉のㄣ称籔カチ钡牟竒喷ㄎ
ンA.2
砪恨瞶ヴ戮╰
戮 羱筍篒︓きるら
瞶砪恨瞶ヴ 11,030じ15,660じ
砪恨瞶ヴ 16,450じ19,045じ
蔼砪恨瞶ヴ 19,990じ23,080じ
羆砪恨瞶ヴ 24,165じ29,005じ
畊砪恨瞶ヴ 30,365じ33,290じ
恨戮╰
戮 羱筍篒︓きるら
恨 10,350じ13,230じ
蔼恨 14,055じ16,450じ
ǖ诡 17,270じ20,985じ
蔼ǖ诡 22,035じ26,460じ
ンB
翠羆服碸﹚眃ネ
羆服ネ
秨砞砪恨瞶ヴ穝戮╰
讽Ы淋叫セ穦沮戮舦絛瞅材1(b)兵碞秨砞砪恨瞶ヴ穝戮╰某矗ㄑ種ǎ
璉春
2. ヘ玡璽砫恨瞶砪琌パカ現羆竝の跋办カ現羆竝ㄆ叭钉踞ヴ硂ㄇㄆ叭钉Θ璶琌恨戮╰м砃服旧の硈戮╰材舱パ钉徊磅︽戮叭硂ㄇパ徖ネ服诡瞶厩皘蔼ゅ咎戮╰旧の恨瞶
3. 讽Ыセ穦瞷舱麓琜篶Τ翴
(a) 恨戮╰锣秸Τ闽场ぃ虫︗砪恨瞶睲间のň獀挛公舱璓盡穨醚烩旧㎝硈尿┦
(b) パ毙▅祘ぃ蔼のぃ菊糹︽磅猭戮叭珿借熬の
(c) 辅磅猭戮叭ゑ緉ㄤ舱綝笿螟そ渤–薄砪ㄏ-
禜ぃㄎ
4. 砪恨瞶舱箂某砞ミ盡砫砪恨瞶ゅ戮戮╰ㄤ程ㄣΘセ痲э到よ猭某筁寸戳丁祇倒璽砫砪恨瞶ㄆ叭钉兜疭瑉禟э到钉㎝瞯セ穦莉淋碞赣某矗種ǎ挪ㄆ叭钉璽砫砪恨瞶┮癸螟セ穦や赣某疭瑉禟箂るら秨﹍祇
讽Ы某
5. 讽Ы瞷タΑ碞秨砞縒ミ戮╰璽砫砪恨瞶紉高セ穦種ǎ讽Ы粄秨砞砪恨瞶ヴ穝戮╰Τ纔翴
(a) 赣戮╰穦Τ耕眏耴妮稰-
斗磅︽砪恨瞶戮叭-
盡㎝竒喷常玂痙
(b) 璹﹚穝戮╰羱盢砪恨瞶戮叭σ納ずτㄤ沟ノ兵ンぇいョ斗近痁の宽腨巨单砏﹚
(c) 挪穝戮╰矗ㄑ耕ㄎ戮穨琜篶躬纘癸砪恨瞶Τ肩虑э到借
(d) パ穝戮╰戈瞏盢眖徖ネ服诡钡磝砪恨瞶のㄤ籔徖ネ礚闽刁カ恨瞶戮叭莉穝秸踞ヴㄤ纯盡穨癡絤籔徖ネΤ闽ぇ戮叭
6. 讽Ы秈˙某穝戮╰蹦ノ挡篶㎝羱
戮 羱
瞶砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材8︓14翴
砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材15︓18翴
蔼砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材19︓22翴
羆砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材23︓27翴
畊砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材28︓30翴
钡戮竨ノ兵ン翠い厩穦σきEΘ罿称ㄢ拨穨竒喷┪ЧΘい厩揭祘τㄣ称莉戈竒喷ぃ筁竨ノ璶σ納琌肩мォ┪竒喷τぃ琌厩穨Θ罿硂穝戮╰盢耴"ㄤ戮╰"摸
7. 讽Ы纯σ納倒ぉ某秨砞戮╰场钉︗程沧∕﹚硂妓暗ぃ続讽Τ闽场ず砞场钉ぃ才ㄤ恨瞶挡篶τ獶猭耚芥А砆跌兜逮耑τ獶兜竜︽砪恨瞶ヴ斗磅︽戮叭ㄤ┦借ぃìやミ籔蝴や场钉
カ現Ыの跋办カ現Ы種ǎ
8. 讽Ыセ穦孔カ現Ы某璓や秨砞穝戮╰辨荷Ν龟︽︓跋办カ現Ы某ョ计や硂兜某
種ǎ籔某
9. セ穦痙種秨砞縒ミ戮╰秈︽恨瞶砪莉眔ㄢカ現Ы绊∕やセ穦戮舦絛瞅砏﹚セ穦斗碞穝戮╰羱筍㎝琜篶矗ㄑ種ǎ
戮╰琜篶
10. 某穝戮╰琜篶恨戮╰屡セ恨戮╰だ糷恨羆羱材7︓11翴蔼恨羆羱材12︓15翴ǖ诡羆羱材16︓20翴㎝蔼ǖ诡羆羱材21︓25翴赣琜篶ㄆ叭钉み某砪恨瞶ヴ戮╰だき糷琜篶糷瞶砪恨瞶ヴ砪恨瞶ヴ蔼砪恨瞶ヴ㎝羆砪恨瞶ヴ戮叭籔砫ヴよ常㎝恨戮╰癸戮ラ程蔼畊砪恨瞶ヴ埃璽砫服旧の磅︽砪恨瞶戮叭ョ斗钡磝ヘ玡パ徖ネ服诡踞ヴ戮砫赣斗蔼徖ネ服诡璽砫崩︽Τ闽現郸磅︽砪恨瞶猭ㄒの獶籔徖ネΤ闽刁カ戮叭
11. 璓セ〆穦や某琜篶種糤砞畊砪恨瞶ヴ戮タ絋は琈рパ徖ネ服诡踞ヴ戮砫锣簿穝戮╰赣某ョ穝戮╰矗ㄑㄎど诀穦眖τ辨矗蔼戮借のэ到戮癸щ㎝
羱
12. 讽Ыセ穦㎝瞷ㄆ叭钉妓穝戮╰斗狝-
ョ斗宽腨略玥の癸羮璚吏挂ㄒ斗近痁の磅︽籔その╇︽笆Τ闽菇碿の繧戮叭单
13. 竒σ納戮兵ン┦借㎝材12琿┮瓃疭某瞶砪恨瞶ヴ戮羆羱材8翴戮癬翴琌続讽
14. セ穦痙種某瞶砪恨瞶ヴ程蔼羱﹚羆羱材14翴砪恨瞶ヴ羱羆羱材15︓18翴蔼砪恨瞶ヴ羆羱材19︓22翴羆砪恨瞶ヴ羆羱材23︓27翴ゑ眔恨戮╰Τ闽戮羱の瞷祇倒ㄆ叭钉钉羬疭瑉禟某羱才┮瞣疉
15. セ穦ョ觅Θр某い畊砪恨瞶ヴ戮羱﹚羆羱材28︓30翴は琈ㄤ戮砫–跋畊砪恨瞶ヴ盢赣跋砰砪恨瞶钡服旧赣ョ斗踞ヴ籔徖ネ礚闽刁カ戮叭羆璽砫畊砪恨瞶ヴ穝戮╰程蔼戮钉斗狝叭どヴ赣戮戮︗
穝戮だ摸
16. 挪砪恨瞶┦借疭竨ヴ璶σ納ビ叫疭肩мォ┪竒喷τぃ琌猔ㄤ厩穨Θ罿セ穦やр穝戮╰耴ㄤ戮╰舱セ穦猔種讽Ыゅ材7琿┮瓃ぃ眎砪恨瞶Θミや场钉瞶パ
17. 程セ穦某琜篶籔羱秨砞砪恨瞶ヴ戮╰耴摸ㄤ戮╰舱
戮 羱
瞶砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材8︓14翴
砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材15︓18翴
蔼砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材19︓22翴
羆砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材23︓27翴
畊砪恨瞶ヴ 羆羱材28︓30翴
そ叭羱の狝叭兵ン盽叭〆穦
畊蔼祅篬砰〆
るら
腑瓣辆某拜畊ネи稱矗干借高そ叭ㄆ叭矗赣戮╰羱筍砞璸ぃ穦紇臫场钉叫拜現┎Τ戈陪ボ瞷ㄤ场钉砪恨瞶钉羱筍紇臫㎡
そ叭ㄆ叭氮畊ネи-
獺ヘ玡羱筍逼⊿Τ癸ㄤ场钉篶Θヴ︙紇臫ㄆ龟戮羱筍璸狦и-
单厩菌㎝竒喷ㄓゑ耕砪恨瞶戮╰戮癬羱翴耕单キㄤ场钉畊ネ筁竒喷陪ボㄤ场钉饼秸戮┕穝砞戮╰计ぶΤ147ㄤ场钉璶―锣戮︓砪恨瞶戮╰侯┮Τ芠兵ンи-
獺砪恨瞶钉ヘ玡羱筍挡篶の戮翴⊿Τ癸ㄤ戮╰篶Θ紇臫
朝岸穨某拜畊ネ碞Τ闽砪恨瞶ㄆ﹜筁и纯竒ǎㄢヴガ現癚阶硂拜肈ボи癸俱狝叭ㄇ猭㎝種ǎ瞷ヴそ叭ㄆ叭纯ヴ跋办蒥現羆竝捌竝獺ョ剪眡硂拜肈и︑讽跋办蒥現Ы某......
PRESIDENT: Please state your question, Mr CHAN.
朝岸穨某拜硄筁硂穝絪и癸赣絪Θセ痲ボ玂痙
PRESIDENT: Please state your question.
朝岸穨某拜瞷ㄢ蒥現Ы硂よや禬筁货じ現┎︙蝶︳瞷絪┮やΘセ痲τ琌Τ┮㎡и眏秸きせㄢ蒥現Ы硂よノ禬筁货じ
PRESIDENT: It is beyond the scope of the original question which deals with starting pay.
朝岸穨某拜畊ネ硂琌Τ闽借高(b)场だ拜の络璹兵ン㎝戮羱筍瞷ㄢ蒥現Ы硂穝絪ノ窥╯澈硂琌Θセ痲現┎Τ砫ヴセЫユ
PRESIDENT: Secretary for the Civil Service, starting pay only.
そ叭ㄆ叭氮畊ネそ叭羱の狝叭兵ン盽叭〆穦祇23腹厨竒睲贰現┎戮╰癬羱翴络﹚膀セ琌厩菌非玥のㄇ龟悔┮癸薄鶪ㄒΤ惠璶癸菇碿┦㎝繧┦单τ秸俱络﹚戮癬羱翴и-
σ納硂薄鶪︓砪恨瞶钉俱砰痲拜肈и獺ㄢ蒥現Ы朝某琌ㄤい蒥現ЫΘΤ氮硂拜肈
眎▆某拜畊ネ砪恨瞶ヴ戮╰戮兵ン㎝癬羱翴秸俱场钉いま癬ぃぶ某そ叭ㄆ叭セЫさΩ秸俱Τ吭高羱の狝叭兵ン盽叭〆穦種ǎ璝︙
そ叭ㄆ叭氮畊ネи-
讽璹のσ納硂羱筍琜篶σ納硂琜篶籔ㄤ场钉琜篶癸ゑ拜肈そ叭羱の狝叭兵ン盽叭〆穦σ納硂拜肈ョ盡猔╯硂翴┮и-
砞璸硂羱筍琜篶睲捶盢硂戮╰戮翴砞单竒喷の厩菌ㄤ场钉戮翴ㄆ龟琌菠ㄇτぃ琌蔼ㄇ
PRESIDENT: Dr CHEUNG, are you claiming that your question has not been answered?
眎▆某拜и稱璶―坚睲そ叭ㄆ叭種琌ボ⊿Τ吭高羱の狝叭兵ン盽叭〆穦種ǎ
そ叭ㄆ叭氮畊ネиも娩⊿Τ魁陪ボ讽琌纯吭高赣〆穦種ǎи穦よΑ氮滦眎某(Annex I)
Overnight Parking of Buses in Southern District
2. 綠產碔某拜玭跋跋某穦妮ユ硄ㄆ叭〆穦硄筁笆某玃叫現┎窽ゎいぺのぺó进硄甦氨獃玭跋そ恏の╬恏ぺ羆ず癸﹡チ硑Θ逮耑碞現┎セЫ琌穦玭跋辅龟瓃惫琁璝礛琌穦ㄤ跋そ恏の╬恏ぺ羆龟琁兜惫琁
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, in response to the motion passed by the Traffic and Transport Committee of the Southern District Board in November 1995, the Transport Department has conducted a comprehensive review of the overnight parking of buses at terminals in the Southern District.
The findings were submitted to the Traffic and Transport Committee last month following which it accepted that arrangements for overnight parking of buses at three out of the four terminals can be continued. The exception is the Ap Lei Chau Bus Terminal because of its very close proximity to housing blocks. The parking of buses overnight at this terminal will cease before the end of March this year. With the agreement of the Committee, the buses so displaced will instead be parked overnight along the section of Heung Yip Road in the Wong Chuk Hang industrial area. This particular problem has therefore been solved.
The overnight parking of buses at terminals, and at some on-street locations, is a long-standing practice necessitated by operational needs. The bus companies must first obtain the specific approval from the Commissioner for Transport who in turn consults the relevant district boards and government departments concerned before granting permission. All district boards are aware of these arrangements.
綠產碔某拜畊ネи谋眔眖笲块氮滦材琿Τ闽纍昪瑆ぺ羆拜肈のㄤ玭跋ぺ羆钡拜肈ǎ笲块竝セō⊿Τ环郸菠ㄓ矪瞶疭琌パいぺ芥硂或ó紅璓рぺ矪睹獃τ瞷拜肈畊ネΤ闽и借高程场だ╯澈現┎穦ㄤそ㎝╬恏龟琁ぃ耚ぺ惫琁現┎Ч⊿Τ氮滦и辨現┎и-
穦璹环郸菠窽ゎぺそ硂妓暗τぃ琌–跋某穦矗拜肈矪瞶硂琌Ч⊿Τ环郸菠
PRESIDENT: That sounds like a statement to me, Mr CHENG.
綠產碔某拜現┎⊿Τ氮程ê兜借高穦翠ㄤ跋そ㎝╬恏ぺ龟琁硂惫琁癸カチ硑Θ逮耑現┎璶氮滦い⊿Τ氮硂兜借高
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, as I have explained, the Traffic and Transport Committee of the Southern District Board has been consulted and has agreed to the arrangements for three of these four bus terminals. As to the reason why parking at bus terminals is required, this is for operational reasons to enhance efficiency and to reduce dead mileage. There is also a shortage of depot sites. Buses parked at depots in the Southern District serve that area and are all deployed on routes serving residential developments in Ap Lei Chau and in the Southern District.
Insofar as the Wong Chuk Hang site is concerned to which the Honourable Member referred, that particular depot was mainly for maintenance and it provided parking for only 40 bus spaces. With the grant of 14 routes to Citybus, the requirements for CMB have been substantially reduced; in fact 76 buses no longer operate from the Southern District. So, in fact, the sale of that depot site has not aggravated the current position.
綠產碔某拜畊ネи稱畊ōだ掉∕笲块Ч⊿Τ氮翠ㄤ......
PRESIDENT: Mr CHENG, please resume your seat.
I do not find the exchange very desirable. Mr CHENG's supplementary has nothing to do with the preamble of the supplementary and the Secretary's answer was an answer to the preamble which was not a question. The specific question was: Will the Government implement a similar policy in the other districts?
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, on-site parking and at bus terminals are necessary for operational reasons. As far as the Administration is concerned, these arrangements will have to continue.
PRESIDENT: I will have to in future rule Members' questions out of order if the preamble has nothing to do with the question.
糂胺祸某拜畊ネ叫拜笲块セЫぺそ現┎矗ユ糤潦ぺ祇甶璸购Τ惠璶笲块竝矗ユ耚ぺ某紉―赣竝種
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, when bus companies put forward proposals for route development programmes or for the expansion of their services, both the Government and of course the district boards are consulted, and as part of this exercise the requirement for parking spaces is taken into consideration.
纯胺Θ某拜畊ネ叫拜笲块瞷現郸琌砛ぺ氨獃ぺ羆㎝隔娩иぃ璸购いΤぺ氨矪祇甶
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, it must be recognized that in the urban areas, it is extremely difficult to find depot sites. Even when depot sites are available, it is essential to ensure that the buses can operate efficiently and at the lowest possible cost. If parking on-site and at bus terminals are not permitted, this would mean unnecessary dead trips.
Proportion between Air-conditioned and Non-air-conditioned Buses
3. 独岸藉某拜畊ネ現┎セЫ
(a) 筁セ翠丁ぺそぺいぺのぺぺ籔獶ぺ计ヘのゑㄒ︙
(b) 瞷丁ぺそ隔絬の獶ぺ计ヘ︙の筁丁ぺそ┮糤ぺ计ヘ︙
(c) ぺ籔獶ぺ布基キА畉禯の
(d) ぺそ︙络﹚隔絬ぺ籔獶ぺ计ヘの布基畉禯?
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, the Honourable WONG Wai-yin has asked for a lot of facts and figures. For easy reference, I have provided these in the Annex to my reply.
Turning to the deployment of buses on each route, our feedback is that most commuters welcome air-conditioned buses since they are cleaner, more comfortable and quieter. Having said this, some commuters of course opt for non-air-conditioned buses because of the lower fares.
There are different fare scales for both air-conditioned and non-air-conditioned buses. The main reason is because the the vehicle price as well as the operating costs for air-conditioned buses are higher than those for non-air-conditioned buses. The Traffic and Transport Committees of the district boards are consulted on service proposals and recommended fares.
Annex
(a) The number of air-conditioned (A/C) buses and non-A/C buses of CMB, KMB and Citybus and the proportion between these two types of buses in their total fleets over the past three years
CMB
No. of No. of Proportion of A/C
End of year A/C buses Non-A/C buses buses in total fleet
1993 103 816 11%
1994 123 796 13%
1995 153 737 17%
KMB
No. of No. of Proportion of A/C
End of year A/C buses Non-A/C buses buses in total fleet
1993 618 2 579 19%
1994 796 2 602 23%
1995 1019 2 494 29%
Citybus
No. of No. of Proportion of A/C
End of year A/C buses Non-A/C buses buses in total fleet
1993 99 111 47%
1994 140 107 57%
1995 264 104 72%
(b) The increase in the number of A/C buses by CMB, KMB and Citybus in each of the past three years
Increase in the number of A/C buses
Year CMB KMB Citybus
1993 20 107 90
1994 30 178 41
1995 20 223 124
(c) The difference in fares between A/C buses and non-A/C bus services operated by CMB, KMB and Citybus
Year CMB KMB Citybus
1995 33% 39% 20%
(b) Breakdown of the existing number of A/C buses and non-A/C buses of CMB, KMB and Citybus on each specified route
CMB Bus Routes (as at end of December 1995)
Route No. No. of A/C buses No. of non-A/C buses Total
Local Routes
2 - 11 11
2A - 9 9
2M - 2 2
3 - 6 6
3A - 1 1
4 - 13 13
8 6 15 21
9 - 4 4
10 - 21 21
10A - 6 6
11A - 3 3
13 - 5 5
14 - 4 4
15 2 5 7
15A - 9 9
15B - 4 4
15M - 6 6
15X 5 - 5
18 - 10 10
19 - 6 6
20 - 8 8
21 - 7 7
22 - 8 8
23 5 10 15
23A - 7 7
23B - 6 6
25 - 9 9
25M - 2 2
26 - 5 5
27 - 3 3
38 3 5 8
38A - 6 6
41 - 6 6
42 * 8 8
43 - 6 6
43X - 6 6
47 - 6 6
63 - 5 5
64 - 5 5
65 - 6 6
66 - 5 5
77 - 5 5
78 - 4 4
79 * 2 2
80 - 7 7
81 - 8 8
81A - 3 3
82 - 14 14
83 - 5 5
84 - 8 8
84M 2 4 6
86 - 8 8
88 - 8 8
91 * 6 6
91A - 2 2
93 2 2 4
93A * 2 2
94 - 6 6
94A - 6 6
45 - 5 5
95 - 5 5
95A - 2 2
95B 1 1 2
260X 4 - 4
262 3 - 3
304 - 10 10
308 - 8 8
338 - 1 1
357 - 8 8
374 - 3 3
388 - 10 10
389 - 10 10
392 - 8 8
399 - 3 3
500 1 - 1
504 6 - 6
537 4 - 4
543 6 - 6
590 11 2 13
595 3 - 3
720 - 12 12
721 6 6
722 - 6 6
780 3 8 11
781 - 4 4
788 * 10 10
Cross Harbour Services
101 * 14 14
101R - 10 10
102 5 8 13
102R - 20 20
104 - 12 12
105 * 12 12
106 - 7 7
109 - 5 5
110 * 5 5
111 * 10 10
111S - 5 5
112 * 11 11
112S - 10 10
113 - 11 11
114 * 4 4
115 4 - 4
116 - 7 7
121 - 3 3
122 - 3 3
300 5 - 5
301 7 - 7
302 2 - 2
303 2 - 2
305 1 - 1
307 4 - 4
336 2 - 2
337 1 - 1
348 1 - 1
606 - 5 5
619 - 7 7
641 - 6 6
680 3 3 6
690 - 8 8
691 5 - 5
802 1 - 1
811 1 - 1
A20 6 - 6
* Additional A/C buses may be deployed to supplement the service
KMB Bus Routes (as at end of December 1995)
Route No. No. of A/C buses No. of non-A/C buses Total
Local Routes
1 7 12 19
1A 10 19 29
2 7 12 19
2A 2 16 18
2B - 5 5
2C - 5 5
2D - 3 3
2E - 10 10
2F - 14 14
3 - 6 6
3S - 5 5
3B - 9 9
3C - 12 12
3D - 10 10
3M - 3 3
4A - 4 4
5 4 17 21
5A - 4 4
5C - 18 18
5D - 6 6
6 3 6 9
6A - 12 12
6B - 7 7
6C 4 18 22
6D - 9 9
6F - 8 8
6S - 8 8
7 4 8 12
7B - 7 7
7M - 3 3
8 - 12 12
8A 4 - 4
9 - 12 12
10 - 9 9
11 4 10 14
11B - 10 10
11C - 9 9
11D - 6 6
11K - 10 10
12 - 6 6
12A - 8 8
13D - 10 10
13E - 7 7
13K - 13 13
13M - 5 5
13X - 7 7
14 2 11 13
14B - 9 9
14C - 2 2
14R 4 - 4
14X - 3 3
15 - 13 13
15A - 12 12
16 3 21 24
16M - 6 6
17 - 10 10
18 - 5 5
21 - 10 10
23 - 8 8
23M - 8 8
24K - 5 5
26 4 12 16
26M - 5 5
26S - 15 15
27K - 13 13
28 - 15 15
28A - 4 4
29M - 9 9
30 - 7 7
30X 2 7 9
31 - 6 6
31B - 9 9
31M - 8 8
32 - 10 10
32B - 3 3
32M - 4 4
33A - 13 13
34 - 5 5
34B 2 2 4
34M - 2 2
35A - 6 6
36 - 5 5
36A - 7 7
36B - 14 14
36M - 5 5
37 - 13 13
37M - 4 4
38 - 16 16
38A - 5 5
38P - 2 2
38S - 8 8
39A - 3 3
39M - 5 5
39R - 1 1
40 4 10 14
40X - 13 13
41 - 10 10
41A 4 11 15
41M 3 8 11
42 - 12 12
42A - 17 17
42C - 14 14
42M 2 4 6
43 - 16 16
43A - 9 9
43B - 11 11
43C - 18 18
43M - 8 8
43S - 9 9
43X - 10 10
44 - 21 21
44M - 12 12
44S - 1 1
45 - 8 8
46 - 7 7
46X - 20 20
47X - 15 15
48X - 13 13
49X - 13 13
51 - 9 9
52M - 12 12
52X - 10 10
53 - 8 8
54 - 4 4
57M 3 12 15
58M 4 20 24
58X 4 12 16
59A - 15 15
59M 5 19 24
59S - 3 3
59X 6 11 17
60 - 10 10
60M - 13 13
60P - 6 6
60S 2 8 10
60X 3 20 23
61X 2 14 16
62X - 11 11
64K - 7 7
64M 2 6 8
65K - 2 2
66 - 13 13
66M 1 12 13
66X 4 13 17
67M - 14 14
67X 2 9 11
68 - 14 14
68A - 15 15
68M 7 15 22
68S 3 5 8
68X 6 21 27
69M 6 12 18
69X - 12 12
70 - 14 14
70K - 7 7
70R - 10 10
70S - 24 24
70X - 19 19
71A - 4 4
71B - 2 2
71K - 6 6
71S - 4 4
72 - 9 9
72A - 6 6
72X - 20 20
73 - 7 7
73A - 8 8
73K - 2 2
73X - 23 23
74A - 12 12
74K - 2 2
74R - 17 17
74X 5 19 24
75K - 6 6
75X 3 13 16
76K - 8 8
77K - 10 10
78K - 4 4
79K - 3 3
80 - 22 22
80K - 11 11
80M - 8 8
80S - 11 11
80X - 8 8
81 5 13 18
81C 4 21 25
81K - 11 11
81M - 7 7
82K - 6 6
82M 2 8 10
82S - 14 14
82X 3 5 8
83K - 8 8
83P - 2 2
83X - 5 5
84M - 5 5
85 - 10 10
85A - 12 12
85B - 10 10
85C 3 13 16
85K - 19 19
85M 5 15 20
85S - 22 22
86 - 13 13
86A - 8 8
86B - 7 7
86C 3 13 16
86K - 16 16
87 - 5 5
87A 3 10 13
87B - 14 14
87D 6 13 19
87K - 12 12
88K - 10 10
88M - 5 5
89 1 11 12
89B 2 11 13
89C - 14 14
89D 4 9 13
89X - 8 8
90 4 - 4
91 - 8 8
91M - 9 9
92 - 12 12
93A - 14 14
93K 2 22 24
93M - 6 6
94 1 1 2
95 - 15 15
95M - 10 10
96R - 10 10
98A 4 15 19
98C - 10 10
98D 8 11 19
99 - 1 1
100 10 - 10
203 8 - 8
203E 12 - 12
208 8 - 8
211 9 - 9
212 10 - 10
215X 14 - 14
216M 6 - 6
216S 6 - 6
219X 5 - 5
224M 3 - 3
224X 8 - 8
230X 3 - 3
234A 9 - 9
234P 2 - 2
234X 10 - 10
235 6 - 6
235M 7 - 7
235X 3 - 3
238M 4 - 4
238X 12 - 12
241S 7 - 7
242X 2 - 2
243M 7 - 7
252B 2 - 2
257B 1 - 1
258B 2 - 2
258C 1 - 1
258D 2 - 2
259B 2 - 2
259C 1 - 1
259D 2 - 2
260B 4 - 4
260C 4 - 4
261B 1 - 1
261M 4 - 4
262P 4 - 4
263R 6 - 6
267S 1 - 1
268B 3 - 3
269C 3 - 3
270 4 - 4
271 14 - 14
271S 8 - 8
272P 1 - 1
273 12 - 12
276 19 - 19
280P 5 - 5
281P 2 - 2
281S 7 - 7
282 5 - 5
284 10 - 10
289R 4 - 4
290 4 - 4
291R 1 - 1
292P 1 - 1
293P 2 - 2
293S 8 - 8
298 10 - 10
298R 4 - 4
299 11 - 11
848 - 10 10
868 2 - 2
872 - 8 8
885 - 5 5
886 5 - 5
887 - 17 17
888 - 5 5
889 16 - 16
891 - 10 10
A1 5 - 5
A7 4 - 4
A8 4 - 4
B1 6 - 6
Cross Harbour Routes
101 14 4 18
101R - 10 10
102 11 4 15
102R - 20 20
103 7 - 7
104 8 6 14
105 11 4 15
106 7 2 9
107 6 - 6
108 6 - 6
109 - 5 5
110 5 - 5
111 13 - 13
111S - 5 5
112 13 - 13
112S - 3 3
113 - 11 11
114 4 - 4
115 4 - 4
116 7 1 8
117 4 - 4
118 7 - 7
121 - 3 3
122 - 3 3
170 7 - 7
171 5 - 5
182 6 - 6
300 12 - 12
301 7 - 7
302 4 - 4
303 2 - 2
305 1 - 1
307 6 - 6
334 2 - 2
336 3 - 3
337 1 - 1
348 1 - 1
368 2 - 2
369 1 - 1
373 1 - 1
601 4 3 7
603 10 - 10
606 3 3 6
619 4 3 7
641 6 - 6
680 3 5 8
681 5 - 5
690 3 5 8
691 5 - 5
802 1 - 1
811 1 - 1
A2 8 - 8
A3 5 - 5
A5 5 - 5
Citybus Bus Routes (as at end of December 1995)
Route No. No. of A/C buses No. of non-A/C buses Total
Local Routes
1 6 - 6
1M 3 - 3
5 2 10 12
5A 3 5 8
5B 3 5 8
5M * 4 4
6 6 - 6
6A 4 - 4
6X 2 - 2
7 9 - 9
10X 4 - 4
11 8 - 8
12 4 - 4
12A 3 - 3
12M 3 - 3
37 - 4 4
37M 6 - 6
40 9 - 9
40M 10 - 10
48 - 6 6
61 4 - 4
61M 3 - 3
70 12 - 12
70M * 4 4
71 6 * 6
72 * 8 8
72A * 6 6
72B - 3 3
73 - 7 7
74 2 - 2
75 * 8 8
76 3 - 3
85 2 6 8
90 11 - 11
90A 2 - 2
90B 8 - 8
92 7 * 7
96 * 7 7
97 12 - 12
97A - 2 2
98 * 6 6
99 7 - 7
260 8 - 8
511 2 - 2
592 8 - 8
N72 2 - 2
N90 2 - 2
Cross Harbour Routes
103 7 - 7
107 6 - 6
117 4 - 4
118 7 - 7
170 8 - 8
171 5 - 5
182 6 - 6
681 5 - 5
* Additional A/C or non-A/C buses may be deployed to supplement the service
独岸藉某拜иゼ矗干借高玡и稱畊ネ掉∕╯澈笲块Τ氮и借高埃矗ㄑㄇ计Ч⊿Τ氮и(c)兜㎝(d)兜借高и璶―畊ネ掉∕笲块Τ氮и借高
PRESIDENT: It is for the Secretary for Transport to answer your question. He has provided an answer. If you seek clarification you can ask a supplementary, Mr WONG Wai-yin.
独岸藉某拜畊ネ笲块⊿Τ氮и借高材㎝材翴ぺ竒翠狝叭и借高璶拜ぺ㎝獶ぺ布基キА畉禯の︙络﹚矗ㄑ隔絬ぺ㎝獶ぺ计ヘи辨笲块祔滦冈灿酵酵硂ㄢ场だ叫拜笲块竝菏恨琜篶︙菏恨ぺそ秨ó进计ヘ才笲块竝┮у计ヘτぃ穦禬赣计ヘ㎡
PRESIDENT: There are several supplementaries here. I will let the Secretary answer the first supplementary.
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, regarding the average fare differentials between fares of air-conditioned and non-air-conditioned buses, I have given the average figures in part (c) of the reply in the Annex. For CMB, the difference is 33%, for KMB it is 39%, and for Citybus, it is 20%.
Insofar as monitoring is concerned, Mr President, the numbers and types of buses deployed on each route are proposed by the franchised bus companies and are subject to approval by the Commissioner of Transport. In giving this approval, the Commissioner takes into account the views expressed by District Board Traffic and Transport Committees when route development programmes are put to these committees.
Insofar as the actual deployment of buses is concerned, the Transport Department carries out surveys and spot-checks to monitor the position.
糂胺祸某拜笲块セЫ現┎︙絋玂ぺ㎝獶ぺゑㄒ痷タ才惠―Τ闽惠―よ-
硄盽谋眔甃ぱぺぃì㎝计ヘぃ镑ぱ玥谋眔ぺ计ヘびτ筁秖
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, I do not think it is practical for the bus companies to have two fleets of buses, one for the summer and one for the winter. Having said that, as I said, the Department does monitor the actual deployment of buses. The newer generation of air-conditioned buses in fact provide for warm air as well; they have thermostat controls. And as I said, our feedback and that from the bus companies is that more and more passengers prefer the comfort and the quality provided by air-conditioned buses.
独岸藉某拜畊ネ笲块セЫ筁丁ぺそぺ┮κだゑ︙
PRESIDENT: I am afraid that exceeds the scope of the original question, but if the Secretary has the answer.
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, I do not have the detailed figures, but I shall try and provide those for the Honourable Member. (Annex II) Bus companies must operate both profitable and non-profitable routes. But I can give Honourable Members an assurance that the revenue from passengers who travel on non-air-conditioned buses in no way subsidizes the operating costs of air-conditioned buses.
Repatriation of Vietnamese Migrants in 1997
4. 糂紌某拜畊ネ程Τい瓣﹛羘嘿翠疭︽現跋現┎舦簿ユ穦"秆"╄翠禫玭差チ闽ㄆ,現┎セЫ
(a) 瞷矪瞶螟チの獶猭挂現郸パㄇ猭ㄒ砏恨
(b) 讽Ы︙磅︽赣单現郸の
(c) ︙贺薄鶪穦磅︽瞷︽"秆"現郸?
玂氮畊ネ
(a) Τ闽矪瞶獶猭挂猭ㄒ更チ挂兵ㄒ翠猭ㄒ材115彻材4111819の38兵︓疉の矪瞶ㄓ︑禫玭獶猭挂猭ㄒ玥更チ挂兵ㄒ材IIIA场赣兵ㄒΤ闽ず甧竊魁セ更セ氮滦ンず
(b) ㄓ弧и-
現郸砏﹚埃獶膀疭笵ミ初┪瞶パ玥ゲ穦荷硉р獶猭挂缓﹡癸璝摸獶猭挂ㄒ翴祇瞷┪纯牟デㄤ竜︽獶猭挂玥ゲ斗狝Ч猭畑┮籃穦砆缓﹡︓ㄓ︑禫玭獶猭挂и-
┯空穦酚羛瓣螟チ盡そ竝┮璹非玥-
Τだ瞶パ甡┤綝笹甡ㄓ糵琩の∕﹚-
琌螟チ侯︽笆璸购场だ璝﹚-
妮獶螟チōだ禫玭現┎氮すΜのЧΘ続讽缓逼獽荷е盢-
缓禫玭︓砆郝螟チ羛瓣螟チ盡そ竝玥逼-
簿﹡ㄤよ
(c) 缓獶猭挂ぃ虫璶跌チ挂兵ㄒΤ闽舦临斗Μ甧瓣┪跋種Μ獺琌赣瓣そチㄓ弧讽Μ甧瓣龟獶猭挂ōだ缓獽秨﹍︓い瓣獶猭挂パи-
㎝い瓣Τ某┮ゐ斗い瓣龟翠砆獶猭挂ōだ獽ミㄨр-
缓い瓣
PRESIDENT: As the relevant extracts from the law are published material, I will have them removed from the official record, the Hansard. So, for all intents and purposes, the printed extracts are placed at the seats of Members for their reference.
糂紌某拜畊ネ璶氮滦(a)琿い現┎⊿Τ氮и借高и借高(a)场だΤㄢ拜肈Τ︙猭ㄒ砏恨矪瞶螟チ㎝獶猭挂畊ネ現┎氮滦(a)场だ琌氮Τ闽獶猭挂拜肈矗チ挂兵ㄒ兵ゅ氮滦(b)场だ玂矗の禫玭弧翠┯空穦酚羛瓣螟チ盡そ竝┮璹非玥ㄓ糵琩-
琌ㄣΤ螟チōだ狦и-
現┎さぱ┮魁チ挂兵ㄒ材13兵疭矗禫玭畊ネ叫拜現┎ㄓ弧翠琌⊿Τ猭ㄒ矪瞶螟チ︙翠疭璹兜猭ㄒ矪瞶禫玭螟チ
玂氮畊ネㄤ龟糂某借高и璶氮滦い竒秆睦睲贰籔矪瞶獶猭挂現郸Τ闽猭兵ゅи璶氮滦(a)场だ膜ㄓ︓矪瞶螟チ翠猭ㄒ璶氮滦(a)场だ膜ㄓ讽礛產筁硂ㄇ兵ㄒ穦フㄓ︑禫玭獶猭挂琌Τ甅疭郝螟チōだ祘и氮滦(b)场だ睲贰秆睦パ侯︽笆璸购兵ン碞琌翠㎝ㄤΜ甧翠斗セō跋ず秈︽郝螟チ祘êㄇ砆郝螟チōだ禫玭莉眔ㄤ把籔瓣氮莱Μ甧硓筁羛瓣螟チ盡そ竝逼獽穦簿チ︓砆郝獶螟チ禫玭玥パи-
癳禫玭
独綺笽某拜畊ネ現┎琌セЫ埃禫玭⊿ΤㄤΤ戈暗螟チ?璝琌杠︙
玂氮畊ネ翠猭砏﹚埃パ禫玭秈セ翠挂ず⊿ΤㄤタΑ螟チ郝現郸猭ㄒ︓︙パ禫玭ㄓ獶猭挂Τ硂贺兵蹿砏﹚и竒璶氮滦㎝氮糂某借高秆睦ㄢΩ
PRESIDENT: Last supplementary.
糂紌某拜畊ネパ猭ㄒびи-
⊿Τ丁灿и稱叫現┎睲贰и-
и籔独綺笽某妓踞みи-
Τ猭ㄒ砏﹚︙郝獶禫玭ㄓ翠螟チのи-
︙矪瞶硂ㄇ?Τㄇぃ琌ㄓ︑禫玭-
ㄓ翠碝―現獀臔現┎靡龟穦︙矪瞶㎡砛現┎и-
琌......
PRESIDENT: You can ask only one supplementary, Miss LAU.
糂紌某拜叫拜и矗兜干借高Τㄢ某矗拜
PRESIDENT: Would you please resume your seat. Take that first supplementary first, Secretary for Security.
玂氮畊ネ瞷薄鶪琌猭砏﹚и-
Τ疭祘郝パ禫玭ㄓ翠獶猭挂琌螟チ猭砏﹚埃禫玭ㄓ翠⊿Τㄤ猭﹚祘ぃ筁и璶氮滦い矗и-
現郸琌砏﹚獶猭挂ゲ斗缓﹡埃獶膀疭笵ミ初┪瞶パチ挂ㄆ叭矪矪沮硂ㄇ疭瞶パ︽ㄏ皍薄舦琵-
痙翠
PRESIDENT: I have earlier said last supplementary but since then I have one further Member who wishes to ask a question. I will allow two more supplementaries.
︙玊く某拜叫拜"秆"現郸琌続ノビ叫螟チ戈ㄤヴ︙瓣膟τ羛瓣螟チその瞷郝螟チㄇ篋ㄒ琌続ノヴ︙ビ叫螟チ戈τぃ阶ㄤ瓣膟涧︹┪ㄤ
玂氮畊ネи狡Ω郝螟チōだ猭㎝猭現郸琌続ノパ禫玭ㄓ翠獶猭挂︓ぃ琌パ禫玭ㄓ翠獶猭挂и-
⊿Τ或疭﹚猭ㄓ砏﹚и-
ゲ斗糵琩-
螟チōだ︓︙矪瞶硂ㄇ獶猭挂и璶氮滦い(b)场だ竒弧眔睲贰и-
璶穦盢-
缓﹡埃獶チ挂ㄆ叭矪矪粄Τ疭笵ミ初┪瞶パ穦笲ノㄤ皍薄舦琵-
痙翠
糂紌某拜畊ネそキ癬ǎ叫拜現┎穦σ納ミ猭┮Τㄓ翠碝―現獀臔礚阶琌禫玭獶禫玭常翠猭ㄒ砏﹚钡郝
玂氮畊ネチ挂兵ㄒずΤ闽郝禫玭螟チōだ兵ゅ琌疭兵ゅи-
琌疭薄鶪璹硂妓兵ゅи獺讽翠ぃΤ禫玭差チ拜肈êㄇ兵ゅら穦繦ぇτ
Marine Accidents in Narrowed Fairways
5. 糂胺祸某拜畊ネ挪セ翠瞷秈︽兜恶祘翠笵Μ現┎セЫ
(a) 筁セ翠办祇ネユ硄種Τぶ﹙ㄤいΤぶ﹙ま璓㏑端の
(b) セ翠办ずΤぶ種堵翴Τ︙惫琁搭ぶ種单堵翴祇ネ
竒蕾氮畊ネ
(a) и稱坚睲翴碞琌翠办笵ぃ穦恶祘τΜ讽礛琘ㄇ跋秈︽祘ㄒ瞷い吏㎝纒秈︽﹁跋┏繥笵の穝臟隔繥笵綫砞恨笵祘笵穦既Μ玈硂ㄇ祘せ┏┪丹┮Τ笵獽穦確溜︓ぶ溜380そへи︗某玂靡笵ぃ穦恶祘τッΜ
Τ闽借高(a)场だ筁ユ硄種计
286﹙
239﹙
き 294﹙
硂ㄇㄆン场だ妮淮稬種ㄤいま璓㏑端種Τ16﹙Τ﹙きΤ﹙
(b) 闽ユ硄種堵翴ㄆ矪矪絋﹚跋办だ獵︾猳弚のい吏硂ㄇ办淮稬種耕繵盞ㄆ矪蹦縩伐惫琁眏硂ㄇ跋办の翠办ずㄤ跋硂ㄇ惫琁珹
(i) 穝吧﹚笵の掬獃跋絬ㄏ环瑅差唉耕︽緋の搭ぶΤ窱疾繧跋办
(ii) э到烩狝叭珹烩翠矗ㄑ癡絤砏﹚┮Τ3 000痉┪差唉斗竨ノ烩翠
(iii) 秸皌も㎝糤砞穝砞称の北いみ眖τ眏セ翠差岔︽恨瞶╰参ㄤいㄒ琌皑芖秨砞穝ユ硄北服旧赣跋ら痲羉Γユ硄
(iv) ┑翠ǖ呸弗丁の糤秸差弗щǖ呸狝叭и-
程沧ヘ夹琌翠办矗ㄑ24ǖ呸狝叭の
(v) 酚ユ硄秖の龟悔惠璶璹差唉︽硉
埃瓃ユ硄恨瞶э到惫琁ㄆ矪瞷タ秈︽兜"ㄆ笆闽繧蝶︳の到ノ翠办ゼㄓ郸菠侯╯"硂兜╯穦セずЧΘ莱Τи-
﹚らΤ闽到ノセ翠办現郸
糂胺祸某拜畊ネ碞るㄢ看砯耫近疾ㄆン現┎Θミ秸琩〆穦赣〆穦ЧΘ秸琩纯16兜璶某眏竒蕾セЫ赣16兜某いΤぶ兜現┎钡莉钡某ㄣ砰︙ㄇ某ぃ莉钡︙
竒蕾氮畊ネ羆珹τēさぱи璶氮滦(b)琿┮矗э到惫琁獽琌膀讽赣種ㄆンτ︓〆穦16兜某の現┎碞兜某莱и穦よΑ糂某矗ㄑ(Annex III)
︙┯ぱ某拜畊ネи辨竒蕾坚睲弧恶祘ぃ穦笵Μ礚粄翠よ竒Μ瞷⊿Τ羭︽寸猘玥и獺常ЧΘ辽祘ぃ筁翠硂或γ琕琌ぃ羭快辽ㄆ竒蕾弧笵⊿ΤΜ⊿Τ矗┕ノㄓ獃差よ灿差唉常硄筁ㄆ龟笵琌Μ緇笵τ⊿Τ獃差矪┮差唉常笵︽叫拜硂穦紇臫
竒蕾氮畊ネ俱砰τē瞷獃差よパ蝴ㄈ翠いァ┪﹁场Ч锣簿垃狥の穝獵そ隔玭跋办êㄇ跋办Τ铆﹚︗竚ㄑ差唉氨獃︓某矗êㄇ祔よ璶琌玡い吏Τㄇ獃差よㄒ猳弚磷俄瞷êㄇよ恶ぃ┮祔よセぃ莱Τ差氨獃差唉莱氨﹚獃︗緇ごΤ讽ì镑溜玂痙笵程よ瞷禬筁800そへи矗猭程800そへず︓ぶ斗玂痙380そへ笵祏戳氨獃玥ノㄤ︗竚
独岸藉某拜畊ネΤㄇ祘弧蝴ㄈ翠┕Τ1 600そへ禯瞒竒Ω恶瞷Μ︓竒蕾┮靡龟800そへ禯瞒罽τ差唉硂计丁玱糤ぃぶ叫拜竒蕾380そへ笵禯瞒琌膀或非玥络璹硂妓笵甧ぶ看差唉瞷差唉硂妓380そへ笵琌临続ノ羉Γ蝴ㄈ翠讽ЫΤ惠璶北秈蝴ㄈ翠差唉计ヘ
竒蕾氮畊ネ祔よㄆ矪Τゅ砏﹚妓ㄏノ硂380そへ笵︓380そへ笵琌荡癸ì镑差唉莱ノ炊硄看и-
┮ǎ程秎近┪砯耫差溜常琌阀40︓50そへ┮380そへ笵ずㄑ硂摸差唉︽狦ウ-
砏痻杠
糂胺祸某拜畊ネи耕Ν玡矗ê秸琩〆穦纯ㄤ厨い獵︾玭琌繧堵翴Τ兵笵ê蹲叫拜竒蕾セЫΤㄇ疭惫琁皐癸硂疭繧堵翴
竒蕾氮畊ネи璶氮滦い矗獵︾硂堵翴硂琌瞷瞷耕淮稬窱疾ㄆンよи-
龟悔︙北の差唉︙︽и璶ノ瓜よΑ糂某矗ㄑ(Annex IV)
Indoor Air Quality
6. DR JOHN TSE asked: Will the Government inform this Council of the following:
(a) what are the principal indoor air pollutants commonly found in commercial buildings, factories and residential premises in Hong Kong, and what effects these pollutants have on public health;
(b) whether such buildings are designed and operated to provide sufficient outside air for each unit inside each building; if so, whether there are guidelines specifying the minimum level of fresh air to be provided, and what action will be taken if the supply of fresh air is below the specified level;
(c) whether the Government has carried out any research to gather data and information on indoor air quality and its associated health risks; if so, how many buildings are affected by indoor air pollutants, and how many occupants are put at health risk due to the presence of indoor air pollutants;
(d) whether any measures, apart from the publication of educational materials, have been adopted to prevent building-related illnesses (for example, Legionnaires' Disease) occurring; and
(e) whether any strategies or plans have been drawn up to improve indoor air quality; if so, what are the details?
SECRETARY FOR PLANNING, ENVIRONMENT AND LANDS: Mr President,
(a) The most commonly found air pollutants in commercial and residential buildings include carbon dioxide, tobacco smoke, volatile organic compounds, microbes, radon gas, and air-borne particulates. The types of pollutants found in factories are setting-specific, depending on the chemicals and processes employed. Long-term exposure to high concentrations of indoor air pollutants may have harmful effects on health. Exposure to environmental tobacco smoke can lead to lung cancer while a microbe found in water-cooled air conditioning system could cause Legionnaires' Disease.
(b) Buildings in Hong Kong are designed to provide sufficient fresh air for each occupant. The Building (Planning) Regulation sets out the required standards of ventilation for office and residential buildings. The Factories and Industrial Undertakings Ordinance requires adequate ventilation in factories and notifiable workplaces. The Public Health and Municipal Services Ordinance also requires owners of public places such as restaurants and cinemas to design and operate their ventilation systems to ensure adequate circulation of fresh air. Offenders are liable to penalties such as fines and suspension of business licence.
(c) We have recently commissioned a consultancy study on indoor air pollution in offices and public places. When completed in mid-1997, the study will provide information for the assessment of the nature and extent of indoor air quality problems and the need for prevention and mitigation measures.
(d) An effective means to prevent building-related illnesses is to ensure adequate ventilation; this is currently effected through legislation governing buildings and workplaces. In addition, the prohibition of smoking in public places under the Smoking (Public Health) Ordinance can reduce the health impact of environmental tobacco smoke. As regards Legionnaires' Disease, preventive measures include a code of practice issued in December 1994 on the design, installation, operation and maintenance of air-monitoring and water systems, monitoring the occurrence of Legionnaire's Disease and investigating notified cases. Apart from information leaflets on the disease, a hotline has been set up by the Electrical and Mechanical Services Department to handle public enquiries. A territory-wide survey on cooling towers is also being carried out and will be completed by April this year. The data from this survey will assist in identifying the source of the disease in case of an outbreak.
(e) The need for longer-term measures to improve indoor air quality will be assessed in the light of the findings of the consultancy study on indoor air pollution mentioned earlier. In the meantime, we propose to extend the statutory provisions governing ventilation in factories and industrial undertakings to office buildings. The proposed new legislation, which will cover matters such as ventilation and maintenance requirements, will be submitted to this Council later this year.
DR JONH TSE: Mr President, given the fact that most people spend over 80% of their time indoors perhaps some of us here spend over 90% of our time indoors together with the negative effects of indoor pollutants, will the Government establish a set of air quality standards to regulate and control air quality in public buildings and residences?
SECRETARY FOR PLANNING, ENVIRONMENT AND LANDS: Mr President, as I have mentioned in my main reply, the ventilation standards of these types of buildings are already provided in law and they are enforced and monitored by the departments concerned. None of these monitoring and inspection results indicate a problem. Establishing an indoor quality standard is something we can consider later, but at the moment, we do not see any major problems arising from the standards we have set for the ventilation of mechanical air-coolers and conditioners.
綠產碔某拜砏购吏挂現璶氮滦(e)场だ矗の某穝猭ㄒ叫拜現┎穦穝猭ㄒい癸蹦ノいァ╰参坝穨加㎝紅蝴㎝玂緄よ菏恨璶―秈︽﹚戳浪琩搭ずγ琕祘
砏购吏挂現氮畊ネ瞷穨㎝坝穨加┮杆砞秸竊╰参砞璸杆皌㎝笲猭ㄒ砏﹚и-
ごσ納らま秈ㄇ穝猭ㄒ秈˙菏恨и-
穦硂よσ納
WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
Use of Tear Gas
7. MISS MARGARET NG asked: Will the Government inform this Council:
(a) of the dates and locations when tear gas was used in Hong Kong in the last five years, together with the circumstances giving rise to such use and the quantity used on each occasion;
(b) whether there are any policies and guidelines governing the use of tear gas; if so, what the details are; and
(c) whether any tests have been conducted regarding possible harmful effects of tear gas on human beings, particularly when used in confined areas; if so, what the results are?
SECRETARY FOR SECURITY: Mr President, between 1991 and 1995, the police used CS (o-chloro-benzylidenemalononitrile) gas on 25 occasions to maintain order in Vietnamese migrant detention centres (five times), to prevent smugglers escaping in "Tai Fei" or "Chung Fei" (17 times), to arrest armed or violent criminals (twice), and to deal with a civil disorder (once). From 1991 to 1995, the Correctional Services Department have used CS gas on 15 occasions in the Whitehead, High Island and Nei Ku Detention Centres to restore order during disturbances or during camp transfer operations. The quantity of CS gas used on each occasion varied from one round to over 3 800 rounds of CS cartridges and grenades.
The use of CS gas is subject to the general principle of use of minimum force in achieving specific objectives. This principle is provided in, for example, Rule 38 of the Immigration (Vietnamese Migrants) (Detention Centres) Rules, Rule 238 of the Prisons Rules and the relevant internal guidelines on the use of force of the Police Force. In essence, these provide for the following:
(a) only the minimum level of force should be applied;
(b) the use of force is to restore order quickly;
(c) whenever possible, warning will be given;
(d) force will not be used as a punitive measure;
(e) force will cease immediately when the objective has been achieved;
(f) the degree of force permissible is determined by the senior officer present; and
(g) the decision to use CS gas within buildings, if required, rests with the senior officer present.
The Government does not conduct tests itself but keeps itself abreast of research conducted overseas on the effects of the use of tear gas. In the late 1970s, the Police Force replaced CN (w-chloroacetophenone) with CS smoke because the latter had been proven to be a much less toxic chemical agent. In addition, research so far has not been able to establish that tear smoke will cause prolonged or seriously harmful effect if it is used properly.
Telephone Lines for Elderly CSSA Recipients
8. 霉璓某拜侯穦穿"侯穿"璸购ま砏﹚縒﹡端摧┪Τ疭惠璶ρ穦莉穦褐竝"竝"戈杆筿杠τㄤρ玥斗琘ㄇ褐膀ビ叫現┎セЫ
(a) 瞷烩侯穿ρいΤぶ琌縒﹡竖Τぶ琌獶縒﹡
(b) (a)兜┮ㄢ摸ρいΤぶ莉竝戈杆筿杠Τぶぃ莉戈
(c) 竝у戈獶縒﹡ρ杆筿杠非玥︙の
(d) 竝Τσ納戈┮Τ烩侯穿ρ杆筿杠璝Τ挡狦︙
SECRETARY FOR HEALTH AND WELFARE: Mr President,
(a) Of the elderly persons currently in receipt of Comprehensive Social Security Assistance (CSSA), about 53 300 are living alone, about 23 900 are living in residential institutions and about 16 600 are living in a family.
(b) We estimate that about 8 400 elderly clients living alone and about 3 700 elderly clients living in a family are receiving special grants to pay for their monthly telephone charges. We have no readily available statistics on the number of elderly CSSA clients who have received special grants for the provision of telephone lines.
(c) Elderly CSSA clients not living alone may be provided with special grants for installing telephone lines if they can demonstrate a need for this facility to maintain contact and communication with other people. This special grant would be provided, for example, if all other members of the household were habitually not at home during the day and the elderly person thus left alone had no other easy access to a telephone.
(d) Special grants for installing telephone lines are provided to those who need such a facility. It would not be appropriate to provide this special grant to all elderly clients regardless of whether they have such a need. For example, most elderly clients living in residential institutions already have access to communal telephones; many already have their own telephone lines installed before they join the CSSA Scheme; and some living in private tenements are able to use communal telephones provided by their landlords.
Aviation Fuel Rationing at Kai Tak before Christmas 1995
9. MR HOWARD YOUNG asked: Will the Government inform this Council:
(a) of the circumstances leading to the necessity for adoption of special arrangements for the distribution of fuel to airlines at Kai Tak airport immediately before Christmas last year;
(b) what is the prescribed minimum level of fuel supply at the airport and whether the level of supply will be increased upon the commissioning of a new fuel tank; and
(c) what is the present progress regarding the project to construct additional fuel receiving facilities; and whether the commencement of the project has been delayed, and if so, what the reasons are?
SECRETARY FOR ECONOMIC SERVICES: Mr President,
(a) On 27 December 1995, the management of the Oil Companies Tank Farm at Kai Tak airport advised the Director of Civil Aviation that scheduled deliveries of aviation fuel from Singapore to the Tsing Yi oil depots would be delayed by two to three days because heavy seas on the delivery route required the oil companies'/tankers to reduce speed. Consequently, the total stock of aviation fuel in Hong Kong fell below the usual level maintained by the oil companies. Fuel rationing at Kai Tai airport was put into effect on that date and lifted on 2 January 1996 upon arrival of the tankers and replenishment of stocks.
(b) The oil companies supply aviation fuel continuously from the Tsing Yi oil depots so as to maintain the stock at the airport close to the maximum level of about 27000 cu m, which is equivalent to 2.7 days' consumption. A new fuel tank is expected to be commissioned in March 1996. This will increase the total storage capacity at Kai Tak to 35 000 cu m, which is equivalent to 3.5 days' consumption.
(c) The additional fuel receiving facilities currently being constructed by the oil companies at Kai Tak comprise the new fuel tank mentioned in (b) above and a second dolphin for off-loading fuel from barges. Construction of the new dolphin was due to commence in September 1995 but has been delayed due to objections raised by a utility company, which has expressed concern that the works may affect a submarine gas pipe. Discussions are under way between the companies concerned to resolve the matter.
Payment of Premium before Resale of HOS Property
10. MR BRUCE LIU asked: In the judgement in M.P. 3630 of 1994 (CHAN Chi-hung and LAW Lai-wan vs TSE Ying-piu and WONG Yiu-lai Flavia) (the "said judgement") delivered in September 1995, the judge interpreted paragraph (a) of the Schedule to the Housing Ordinance (Cap. 283) to mean that an owner of a Home Ownership Scheme property ("HOS property") shall have "first paid to the Authority the amount of the premium" before completing the sale of the property to a new purchaser. That is to say, such owner cannot use the proceeds of sale to pay the premium to the Authority. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council:
(a) whether the administration accepts the reality which is that an owner of HOS property would sell his property and concurrently on completion of his sale pay the premium to the Authority from the proceeds of such sale; and
(b) if so, in order to remove any doubt cast by the said judgement, whether the Administration intends to amend the Schedule to the Housing Ordinance?
SECRETARY FOR HOUSING: Mr President, when a Home Ownership Scheme (HOS) flat is sold, it is common practice for the purchaser's solicitor to send the assignment document and the sale proceeds to the vendor's solicitor, subject to an undertaking that the vendor will pay the premium to the Housing Authority before the completion of the sale. The assignment takes effect only after payment of the premium. In this way, the vendor can cover the required premium payment from the sale proceeds. The use of this form of transaction is subject to mutual agreement between the vendor and the purchaser.
The requirement for payment of premium under the Schedule is clear, and solicitors have generally not encountered difficulties in handling the sale of HOS flats either before or after the court case mentioned.
Expenditure Guideline Projections' Reference Date
11. MR SIN CHUNG-KAI asked: It is mentioned in the "Practitioner's Guide Management of Public Finances" published in March 1995 by the Finance Branch that the reference date for expenditure guideline projections is 1990-91 and that the expenditure ceiling for 1990-91 has been used to determine the expenditure guideline projections for subsequent years. Will the Government inform this Council:
(a) of the criteria adopted for choosing 1990-91 as the "reference date" for expenditure guideline projections; and
(b) whether a new reference date for the 1996-97 expenditure guideline projection will be adopted; if so, how many expenditure guideline projections will be covered by this new reference date?
SECRETARY FOR THE TREASURY: Mr President, the Government has for many years followed the fundamental principle that government expenditure, over time, should be planned to grow at a rate no faster than the forecast trend growth rate of the economy measured in terms of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP). This broad working hypothesis was reinforced with the introduction of the Medium Range Forecast in 1986-87. From that time, the additional resources which could be made available each year to fund new/improved government services was controlled by reference to the forecast trend growth rate of GDP. However, at that time, there were no formal overall expenditure guidelines.
In 1990, given the substantial infrastructural investment planned over a number of years, particularly in connection with the Airport Core Programme, and the need to assure ourselves that this investment could be accommodated without breaching the principle of controlling expenditure referred to above, the Financial Secretary adopted a fixed reference point for the purpose of planning future government expenditure. This fixed reference point was based on projected spending in 1990-91 and was used to determine the expenditure guidelines for 1991-92. These guidelines were published, for the first time, in the printed version of the Budget speech in March 1992.
Since that time, the expenditure guidelines have been rolled forward each year to take account of:
(i) the forecast trend growth rate of GDP;
(ii) the effect of price changes; and
(iii) changes in the scope of government activities (for example, the guidelines have been reduced to reflect the creation of government trading funds, the expenditure on which ceases to be a charge on the General Revenue Account).
The expenditure guidelines for 1996-97 have been prepared on this same basis. There is no intention, at this time, to adopt a new reference date in calculating the expenditure guidelines for future years.
Withholding of Passports of Imported Workers
12. 糂ホ某拜るら沟縱笲块そ骋牡よщ禗ㄤい瓣臔酚砆骋叭そΙ痙ぃ莉祇临癸Τ闽щ禗牡よゼ硄秸琩挡狦ぇ玡Τ闽骋叭そ程羘嘿盢赣у臔酚癳┕約碞現┎セЫ
(a) 牡よ钡骋щ禗砆骋叭そ珹パい瓣嘲のセ翠秨快Ι痙臔酚︙矪瞶赣单щ禗
(b) 秸琩璝牡よ絋骋叭そ┪Ι痙骋臔酚琌穦矗癬禗の
(c) 瓃骋臔酚砆Ι┿い瓣嘲讽Ы︙-
ㄏㄤΝら秏
SECRETARY FOR SECURITY: Mr President,
(a) Upon receipt of complaints from imported workers about the withholding of their passports by labour service companies, irrespective of their country of origin, the police will investigate to ascertain if any criminal offence has been committed. Where necessary, the police will also liaise through established channels with the appropraite authorities in the country of origin of the workers or the companies concerned.
(b) The fact that a person may be holding another person's passport does not necessarily mean that a criminal offence has been committed. There are, however, certain specific charges that can be considered where the circumstances justify, such as possession of unlawfully obtained travel document under section 42(2)(c)(i) of the Immigration Ordinance, or being a money lender demanding or accepting the passport as security for a loan contrary to section 29(5) of the Money Lenders Ordinance. The police will decide whether to institute legal proceedings against the labour service companies concerned depending upon the merits of the case, and may, if necessary, seek advice from the Attonery General's Chambers.
(c) When necessary, the Immigration Department, in consultation with the Labour Department, will liaise with the relevant authorities in China through established channels to assist those imported workers who do not have valid travel documents with them, with the aim of facilitating their return to China.
"Shenzhen-Hong Kong Convergence" Concept
13. 腜某拜セ翠籔い瓣約狥跋ぷㄤ瞏㎝痌ㄢ竒蕾疭跋竒蕾㎝チネよ羛么ら镣候盞ヘ玡Τ厨笵瞏カ﹛竒ЧΘΤ闽瞏㎝翠竒蕾よ,矗┮孔"瞏翠晃钡"阀├碞現┎セЫ
(a) 現┎琌眡瓃よず甧のΤ闽"瞏翠晃钡"某璝礛現┎Τ碞兜よ籔いよ﹛絉坝の
(b) 現┎琌Τ碞セ翠籔瞏痌ㄢ約獂の环竒蕾籔瞏カ痌カ﹛┪ㄤいよ﹛絉坝璝礛冈薄︙
FINANCIAL SECRETARY: Mr President, the Hong Kong Government has not received any report or proposal from the Chinese side on the subject of "Shenzhen Hong Kong convergence", nor has the subject been raised with us by Chinese officials. No discussion of such a report has taken place between the Government and the Chinese side.
We believe it is essential to maintain a high level of economic co-operation between Hong Kong and the neighbouring regions in Guangdong Province. We pursue this fully. For example, the Hong Kong Government plays an active part in developing the border liaison network with relevant authorities in Guangdong Province. More recently, the Infrastructure Co-ordinating Committee (ICC), brings together senior officials on both sides to co-ordinate the development of cross-border road, bridge, marine channel and railway projects, as well as air traffic control and airspace management in the Pearl River Delta. However, there has been no focussed discussion on comprehensive and long-term economic co-operation between Hong Kong and Shenzhen/Zhuhai.
We remain committed to strengthening economic ties between Hong Kong and neighbouring regions in Guangdong Province, while leaving our private sector to identify and pursue the commercial opportunities. We are always willing to consider any new proposals for improving bilateral economic links, which are consistent with the principle of "one country, two systems" and with Hong Kong's status as a separate customs territory. Given the spirit of the Sino-British Joint Declaration and the Basic Law and our international commitment to the World Trade Organization, Hong Kong's economic relationship with Shenzhen/Zhuhai, Guangdong or the rest of China should be one of mutual benefit, pursued on the basis of separate economic systems and policies.
Pre-recorded Putonghua Telephone Enquiry Service
14. 朝挪狶某拜現┎セЫ
(a) ヘ玡パ現┎场矗ㄑ"筿杠魁"吭高狝叭埃約狥杠の璣粂琌穦炊硄杠矗ㄑよ獽カチぷㄤ琌ρの穝簿チㄏノ
(b) 琌穦σ納癡絤钡絬ネ┪璽砫矪瞶筿杠吭高炊硄杠矗ㄑ兜狝叭の
(c) ︳璸矗ㄑ瓃炊硄杠狝叭–肂秨や︙
CHIEF SECRETARY: Mr President,
(a) Many departments have recognized the need to improve their telephone enquiry systems to meet the needs of the public, particularly the elderly and new immigrants. At present, there are eight computerized telephone enquiry systems which provide services in Putonghua. These include the Department of Health (on Aids counselling and pharmaceutical services), the Social Welfare, Regional Services, Labour, Census and Statistics and Civil Aviation Departments and the Office of the Telecommunications Authority. The Rating and Valuation and the Education Departments also plan to introduce Putonghua to their computerized telephone enquiry systems during 1996.
Other departments which have a major interface with the public such as the Immigration, Legal Aid, Water Supplies and Customs and Excise Departments are also considering introducing this service in future.
(b) Training courses on handling telephone calls in Putonghua are being provided by the Government to personnel responsible for answering telephone enquiries.
(c) Where a computerized telephone enquiry system exists, the additional cost of adding Putonghua as a language is not substantial, although this does vary depending on the complexity of the programming work involved.
Importation of Professionals from Mainland China
15. 辩模┚某拜現┎る龟琁兜刚喷璸购祇1 000帽靡パい瓣块盡恶干セ翠獶い戈そ盡穨㎝恨瞶現┎セЫ
(a) Τ颗秖兜刚喷璸购穦部锚蚌癡セ盡の-
ㄆ穨祇甶
(b) ︑龟琁刚喷璸购ㄓΤ璹ヴ︙莱祏戳㎝戳現郸蚌癡セ盡獽ら兜刚喷璸购の
(c) 穦σ納祇帽靡计ヘ禬筁皌肂50%獽浪癚刚喷璸购
SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION AND MANPOWER: Mr President, as regards part (a) of the question, the pilot scheme to bring in professionals from China is strictly restricted to those who possess special qualifications and experience of China which are in demand, but not readily available in Hong Kong. All employers wishing to apply for quota under the scheme are required to establish and substantiate their need for a particular professional from China and each application is carefully scrutinized by the Immigration Department before deciding whether it should be approved.
As of 31 January 1996, 688 out of the 1 000 quotas allocated have been approved for which 374 employment visas have been approved. It is not likely that the small number of such professionals who have so far entered Hong Kong for employment, will have any impact on the training and career prospect of the local professionals.
As regards parts (b) and (c) of the question, the pilot scheme is a limited extension to the existing policy on the entry of overseas professionals who possess special skill, knowledge or experience of value to but not readily available in Hong Kong. Whether the pilot scheme should continue depends on the local demand and supply of such professionals from China. In view of the slow take-up and utilization rate of the quotas under the pilot scheme, we will closely monitor the progress and conduct a review as and when a sufficiently large number, say 75%, of the visas have been approved.
Stamping of Government Department Letters
16. MRS ELIZABETH WONG asked: Will the Government inform this Council:
(a) whether government departments will be required to stamp all letters sent out as from 1 April this year; if so, whether the new arrangement will cause extra work to government departments; and
(b) if the answer to (a) is in the affirmative, will the Government provide a breakdown by department of the estimated increase in expenditure on staff cost in the financial year 1996-97 arising from the introduction of the arrangement mentioned in (a) above?
SECRETARY FOR ECONOMIC SERVICES: Mr President,
(a) Government departments are required to pay individually for their own postage with effect from 1 April 1996 under the Post Office Trading Fund operation. The purpose is to reflect the true cost of the postal service used by government departments and to introduce a financial discipline on them to economize on the use of such services. This, however, does not mean that they have to affix stamps to every letter they send. Same as for the private sector, apart from using stamps to pay for postage, government departments can use franking machines to frank postage or post letters vide the Prepayment In Money or Permit Mailing systems. These arrangements, which are designed to meet the needs of business and bulk posters, obviate the need for affixing stamps.
(b) Given the availability of alternative means for paying postage, we envisage that only a very small proportion of letters sent by government departments would need to be affixed with stamps. The workload involved would be minimal and can be coped with by existing staff of all departments.
Office Rental Allowance for District Board Members
17. MR AMBROSE LAU asked: It is mentioned in the Policy Commitments published by the Government last year that an accountable office rental allowance of $4,500 will be introduced to assist district board members to set up ward offices in their constituencies so that they could discharge their duties more effectively. Will the Administration inform this Council:
(a) of the effective date of the introduction of the allowance;
(b) whether the Administration agrees with the prevalent view of district board members that the amount of the allowance is insufficient for such purpose;
(c) whether the Administration will consider raising the allowance to a more realistic amount to achieve the intended purpose;
(d) whether maximum flexibility will be allowed in the use of the allowance so that its intended purpose can be achieved; and
(e) whether the procedural steps for the disbursement of the allowance will be kept to a minimum?
SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS: Mr President,
(a) We intend to submit a proposal for introducing a new Office Rental Allowance for district board members to the Finance Committee on 8 March 1996. Subject to the Finance Committee's approval, the allowance will be payable to district board members from 1 April 1996.
(b) The allowance is intended to assist district board members to set up and maintain ward offices to enable them to discharge their duties in relation to district board business more effectively. The amount of $4,500 was worked out on the basis of a survey conducted in 1995 which established that the rent for an office of 30 sq m ranged from $5,000 for offices in public housing estates to $9,000 for those in commercial buildings. An average rental of $7,000 was thus considered a reasonable ceiling. Given that a rental element equivalent to $2,500 is already included in the existing honorarium for district board members, this new office rental allowance has been set at $4,500 per month.
(c) The amount is considered reasonable. Subject to the approval of the Finance Committee, the allowance will be revised annually.
(d) We intend that recipients of the new allowance will be able to use it against rental costs as well as other office maintenance costs including rates, management charges and utilities expenses. District board members may also pool their allowance to run joint offices. We consider this approach to be one which will give district board members maximum flexibility in determining how they choose to spend their office rental allowance.
(e) The allowance will be accountable and tax-exempted. District board members will have to provide supporting documentation when claiming reimbursement. This procedure will be simple and straightforward.
Traffic Improvement Projects for Central and Western District
18. 独綺笽某拜挪﹁跋┏繥笵盢穦丹秨硄ó盢穦旧璓い﹁跋疷笵隔ユ硄璽颤粿糤現┎セЫ
(a) ﹁繥硄óい﹁跋笵隔ユ硄の︽瑈秖箇璸穦糤ぶの
(b) 現┎琌Τヴ︙笵隔の︽隔э到璸购皌﹁繥硄ó璝礛赣单璸购秈甶︙Τ闽祘のЧΘ
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, whilst the opening of the Western Harbour Crossing (WHC) is not expected to result in any significant increase in traffic in Central District, there will be an increase in through traffic in Western District. At present, an average of about 55 000 vehicles a day travel through Western District with peak hourly flows of 4 000 vehicles in the morning and 4 200 in the afternoon. This is forecast to increase to 74 000 vehicles with peak hourly flows of 5 400 in the morning and 5 600 in the afternoon. We do not expect the WCH to have any adverse impact on pedestrian flow.
To cope with the increase in traffic, seven road improvement projects, with suitable pedestrian facilities, are in hand. Five will be completed in 1996 and the remaining two before mid-1997. Details are provided in the Annex.
Annex
(1) Belcher Bay Link
Progress remains good and the scheduled completion date is September 1996
(2) Rock Hill Street Extension and associated traffic management measures
Work is on schedule with completion in July 1996.
(3) Smithfield Extension
Work is proceeding at full speed. The scheduled completion date is June 1997.
(4) Victoria Road Improvement Stage 2 phase 1
Under construction with scheduled completion date in November 1997. Improvement works on carriageway will be completed by mid-1997.
(5) Junction of Victoria Road/Cadogan Street Widening
Upon partial termination of the tenancy affected, works will commence in August 1996. The scheduled completion date is December 1996.
(6) Pedestrian Subway and junction improvements at Pok Fu Lam Road/Pokfield Road
Work is in hand and the scheduled completion date is June 1996.
(7) Pok Fu Lam Road Widening - Stage V
Work is in hand and the scheduled completion date is September 1996.
Attendance at Hong Kong Museum of Art
19. DR DAVID LI asked: In order to boost public attendance at the Hong Kong Museum of Art (the Museum) and enhance the public's appreciation of the art treasures on display in the Museum, will the Government inform this Council:
(a) of the attendance record of the Museum in the past three years;
(b) whether the Government will consider allowing groups to tour the Museum free of charge;
(c) whether additional provision will be allocated for the launching of publicity campaigns to publicize the Museum's activities; and
(d) whether the Museum will establish closer ties with its counterparts in overseas countries, such as the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, and arrange the loan of exhibits from these overseas organizations to add variety to its own exhibits?
SECRETARY FOR RECREATION AND CULTURE: Mr President, I am replying on behalf of the Urban Council.
Concerning the first part of the question, the attendance record of the Hong Kong Museum of Art in the past three years is as follows:
Year 1993 1994 1995
Attendance 155 000 147 000 143 000
These figures do not include attendance at the Flagstaff House Museum of Teaware in the Hong Kong Park, where part of the Museum's collection of Chinese teawares and antiquities are on display, or attendance at educational and extension activities organized by the Museum. The attendance record of the Flagstaff House Museum of Teaware and educational and extension activities in the past three years is set out below:
Attendance
Year Teaware Museum Educational and Extension Activities
1993 224 000 16 000
1994 185 000 27 000
1995 173 000 38 000
As regards the second part of the question, the Urban Council at present charges $10 for normal admission and $5 for admission by the disabled, students and senior citizens aged 60 or over. To attract more visitors to the Museum, the Urban Council has implemented a number of incentive schemes. These are:
(a) A 30% group discount for groups of 20 visitors or more, for both normal and concessionary admission.
(b) An annual museum pass for unlimited admission to the Council's four main museums (Art, History, Space and Science) at $100 for normal admission and $50 for concessionary admission. A 50% discount is offered for museum pass purchased after 1 October as they are only valid for six months.
(c) A group pass which admits four visitors but is valid for one visit only. The pass is calculated at the normal rate for the admission of two and is $20 each.
(d) A monthly pass, mainly targeted at tourists, at $50 each and is valid for one month from the date of issue. A 10% discount is offered to holders of the pass at all museums' shops and the Council's publication centres.
(e) For pre-booked group visits of 20 people or more, the group leader is admitted free and a free guided tour is given by docents trained by the Museum.
The Urban Council is currently examining ways and means to further popularize museum facilities, particularly those of the Hong Kong Museum of Art.
Regarding the third part of the question, publicity for museum activities is an ongoing effort of the Urban Council's Public Information Unit and a variety of methods are used. These include issuing press releases and feature articles to the electronic and print media, placing advertisements for major exhibitions in newspapers and magazines, advertising packages at Mass Transit Railway stations, Star Ferry Approaches, on TV stations and radios, arranging press conferences and previews of exhibitions for the media and inviting the mass media to attend opening ceremonies of exhibitions. In addition, the Museum produces posters, handouts, exhibition catalogues, and souvenirs to help publicize special events. As part of the Urban Council's current exercise to formulate a Five Year Plan for the museum services, the need for additional publicity will certainly be examined.
Finally, on the question of maintaining closer ties with overseas museums, since the opening of the Museum of Art in Tsim Sha Tsui in November 1991, the Museum has jointly organized 18 major exhibitions with museums and institutions in Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States. The Museum will continue to maintain an international character in its exhibition programmes.
Professional Staff Establishment of Transport Department
20. DR SAMUEL WONG asked: In regard to the manpower resources required for various transport-related studies (such as the Bus Only Lane Study, the Freight Transport Study and the Parking Demand Study) being carried out by the Transport Department, will the Government inform this Council:
(a) whether the existing establishment of professional staff in the Transport Department is adequate to handle the extra workload arising from the above studies;
(b) if the answer to (a) is in the negative, whether additional staff have been or will be recruited; if so, what are the details; and
(c) whether a forecast has been made of the additional manpower resources required for implementing the recommendations of the studies; if so, what are the details?
SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT: Mr President, of the three studies mentioned, the Freight Transport Study and the Parking Demand Study have been completed with the assistance of consultants under the management of the Transport Department. These studies are being examined by the Administration.
The Bus Only Lane Study will also be assigned to consultants who will assist in evaluating and designing bus-only lanes and implementing recommended schemes. The Transport Department is now preparing a consultancy brief and the Study is scheduled to commence in August this year. A special team comprising a Senior Engineer, an Engineer and one Senior Transport Officer, has been set up through the temporary redeployment of staff. Funds have been sought for the creation of these posts in the 1996-97 Estimates.
Two other important studies will also commence later this year. These are the Third Comprehensive Transport Study (CTS-3) and the Electronic Road Pricing Feasibility Study. While the former will be undertaken using existing departmental resources, the latter will require the creation of a dedicated project team comprising professional engineering and technical staff. Funds have also been sought in the 1996-97 Estimates for this purpose.
The longer-term manpower resources that may be required for implementing the recommendations of the various studies will be considered when specific action plans are drawn up.
MOTIONS
COMPANIES ORDINANCE
THE SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES to move the following motion:
"That the Companies (Fees and Percentages) (Amendment) Order 1996, made by the Chief Justice on 23 January 1996, be approved."
He said: Mr President, I move the first motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The Companies (Fees and Percentages) (Amendment) Order 1996 was made by the Chief Justice. It increases certain fees payable to the Registrar of Companies in relation to the inspection and photocopying of liquidators' statements sent to the Registrar under the Companies Ordinance.
The fees are increased, on average, by 9.2% in line with the increase in costs due to inflation as measured by the Government Consumption Expenditure Deflator (GCED). These fees were last revised in August 1994.
As a trading fund, the Companies Registry is required to provide an efficient and effective service while meeting the cost of the services that it provides from the income it receives. Since its establishment as a trading fund in August 1993, the Registry has introduced a number of measures to improve its services. These include obtaining customer's views of its present and proposed services by way of visits, questionnaires and surveys and introducing additional facilities such as on-line indexes of documents and listed company directors in refurbished and user-friendly premises. The latest service introduced last week is a facility to allow customers to have remote access to the Registry's names and document indexes and to order company searches by fax.
The Registry has budgeted for these modest fee increases to enable it to continue with its programme of developments and improvements in technology and services while ensuring that it can cover its increased costs. The revised fees, if approved, will come into operation on 1 March 1996.
Thank you, Mr President.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
REGISTERED TRUSTEES INCORPORATION ORDINANCE
THE SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES to move the following motion:
"That the Registered Trustees Incorporation Ordinance (Amendment of Second Schedule) Order 1996, made by the Secretary for the Treasury on 23 January 1996, be approved."
He said: Mr President, I move the second motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The reasons for this proposal are identical to those I have just outlined in moving the first motion except that the proposed revised fees in this case are in relation to inspection, certification and registration of documents, and related matters, under the Registered Trustees Incorporation Ordinance.
Thank you, Mr President.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
BANKRUPTCY ORDINANCE
THE SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES to move the following motion:
"That the Bankruptcy (Fees and Percentages) (Amendment) Order 1996, made by the Chief Justice on 23 January 1996, be approved."
He said: Mr President, I move the third motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The Bankruptcy (Fees and Percentages) (Amendment) Order 1996, and the next three motions that I am going to move, namely, the Bankruptcy (Amendment) Rules 1996, the Companies (Fees and Percentages) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 1996, and the Companies (Winding-up) (Amendment) Rules 1996, were all made by the Chief Justice. These are to increase the fees payable to the Official Receiver's Office in relation to proceedings in bankruptcy under the Bankruptcy Ordinance and in the winding-up of companies under the Companies Ordinance.
Most of the fees were last revised in November 1994. We propose to revise them generally in line with the increase in costs due to inflation. This is measured at 9.2% as calculated by the movement of the Government Consumption Expenditure Deflator (GCED). The actual fee revisions will sometimes differ slightly from the inflation rate due to the need to round fees up or down so as to facilitate collection.
Where a fee has not been revised since 1988, the increase has been confined to 25% even though inflation since then has been 104.5%. This is to reduce the impact of the revision to a reasonable level. We propose to revise these fees each year by up to a maximum of 25% until they have reached the same level, in real terms, as in 1988. In relation to the costs of summoning a meeting of creditors, provision is also made for an additional charge for room hire. This is to reflect properly the extra costs that are incurred when it is necessary to hire rooms for meetings attended by numbers of creditors that are too large to be accommodated in the Official Receiver's Office.
The expected revenue from the fees being revised represents only around 11% of the Official Receiver's total revenue. This is because the majority of his revenue is derived from fees which are calculated according to fixed percentages, based on the realization of assets, dividends paid out and interest on bank deposits.
Due to the nature of insolvencies, the amount of fees and charges collected presently falls far short of the costs incurred by the Official Receiver's Office. In the current financial year, the total revenue is estimated to be $88.3 million, representing only 52% of the total expenditure. The low cost recovery rate is due mainly to the fact that approximately 83% of insolvency cases have realizable assets of less than $50,000, an amount insufficient to meet the Official Receiver's costs. The increases in the fees and charges being proposed in relation to personal bankruptcies and company windings-up are estimated to produce a total additional income to around $215,000 per annum. As a consequence, the cost recovery rate would increase only marginally to 52.12%.
The level of fee increases proposed takes careful account of the ability of those who are required to pay the fees to bear additional charges. For this reason, I am not recommending more substantial revisions which might otherwise be justified.
The Bankruptcy (Fees and Percentage) (Amendment) Order 1996 deals with the 14 fees and charges under bankruptcy. The total amount of additional income from the propose increases in bankruptcy fees and charges is estimated to be about $105,000 per annum. This represents an average increase of just 0.8% when expressed as a percentage of the total bankruptcy income, estimated to be $12.8 million for 1995-96.
Mr President, I beg to move.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
BANKRUPTCY ORDINANCE
THE SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES to move the following motion:
"That the Bankruptcy (Amendment) Rules 1996, made by the Chief Justice on 23 January 1996, be approved."
He said: Mr President, I move the fourth motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The Bankruptcy (Amendment) Rules 1996 revise the amount of deposit payable upon the presentation of a bankruptcy petition and in respect of compositions or schemes of arrangements put forward by debtors.
At present, a creditor presenting a petition for the bankruptcy of a debtor. must deposit $10,000 with the Official Receiver to cover the Official Receiver's initial costs and expenses of administration of the estate. A debtor who petitions for his own bankruptcy must also deposit $10,000 with the Official Receiver.
We propose to reduce the amount of deposit in respect of a debtor's petition following the recommendation of the Bankruptcy Report of the Law Reform Commission published on 29 May 1995. The Report considered that people should not be discouraged from recourse to bankruptcy proceedings because of an unnecessarily high level of deposit required.
The Report recommends that, at 1991 price levels, the level of deposit should be reduced from $10,000 to $5,000. Having regard to inflation since then, we now propose that the level of deposit be now reduced from $10,000 to $8,000.
Although the Law Reform Commission recommended a similar reduction in the deposit payable in respect of a creditor's petition, we consider a higher level of deposit is not beyond the reach of creditors, most of whom are trade creditors, financial institutions or banks. Given that the existing level of deposit of $10,000 was set 11 years ago, we consider that a modest increase of 12.5% to $11,250 is now justified.
The Bankruptcy (Amendment) Rules 1996 also revise the deposit payable when a bankrupt or a debtor lodges a proposal for a composition on satisfaction of his debts or a scheme of arrangement of his affairs out of monies to be provided by another person. The existing level is $10,000 and was last revised in November 1993. The inflation rate since then has been 17.8%. We propose to increase this level only by 12.5% to $11,250. This reflects the significant amount of work that the Official Receiver may be required to undertake in connection with such procedures.
Thank you, Mr President.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
COMPANIES ORDINANCE
THE SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES to move the following motion:
"That the Companies (Fees and Percentages) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 1996, made by the Chief Justice on 23 January 1996, be approved."
He said: Mr President, I move the fifth motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The Companies (Fees and Percentages) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 1996 deals with the 13 fees and charges applicable to company windings-up. As with the related fees under the Bankruptcy (Fees and Percentages) (Amendment) Order 1996, we propose to increase these fees generally in line with inflation to cover increases in costs, except where they have not been revised for some years, where we are proposing a more gradual adjustment.
The total amount of additional fee income from the proposed increases in fees and charges for company windings-up is estimated to be $110,000 per annum. This represents an average increase of just 0.2% when expressed as a percentage of the total income for windings-up, estimated to be $45.6 million for 1995-96.
Thank you, Mr President.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
COMPANIES ORDINANCE
THE SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES to move the following motion:
"That the Companies (Winding-up) (Amendment) Rules 1996, made by the Chief Justice on 23 January 1996, be approved."
He said: Mr President, I move the sixth motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The Companies (Winding-up) (Amendment) Rules 1996 revise the amount of deposit for the presentation of a petition for the winding-up of a company and rationalize the cost of summoning a meeting of creditors or contributories.
The present level of deposit of a petition is $10,000 and we propose to increase it to $11,250, being the same as that proposed for the deposit for a creditor's petition under the Bankruptcy (Amendment) Rules that I moved earlier.
The existing fee for all disbursements, printing, stationery and postage when the Official Receiver summons a meeting of creditors or contributories is calculated in a cumbersome and obscure manner, involving a sliding scale per creditor or contributory depending on the number of such persons attending. We propose now to update this to a fixed fee and bring it into line with the parallel fee under the Bankruptcy (Fees and Percentages) (Amendment) Order 1996, which we have proposed to increase from $1,320 to $1,440, with the additional charge for room hire when the numbers of creditors are too large to be accommodated in the Official Receiver's Office.
Thank you, Mr President.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
BILLS
First Reading of Bills
LEGAL PRACTITIONERS (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
INSURANCE COMPANIES (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
BUILDINGS (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
DUTIABLE COMMODITIES (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
Bills read the First time and ordered to be set down for Second Reading pursuant to Standing Order 41(3).
Second Reading of Bills
LEGAL PRACTITIONERS (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL to move the Second Reading of: "A Bill to amend the Legal Practitioners Ordinance."
He said: Mr President, I move that the Legal Practitioners (Amendment) Bill 1996 be read the Second time. The Bill introduces a local appointment system for notaries public in Hong Kong. It provides a statutory basis for the existing practice whereby only solicitors admitted in Hong Kong are appointed as notaries public. It also establishes the criteria and procedures for the appointment of notaries public.
The functions of a notary public in Hong Kong, as in other common law jurisdictions, are primarily to attest, authenticate or certify the due execution of documents and to take oaths and declarations in respect of documents for use in other countries.
Under section 40 of the Legal Practitioners Ordinance, the Registrar of the Supreme Court is required to register every notary public who produces his notarial faculty and who files in the High Court an affidavit of identity and pays the enrolment fee. In practice, all notaries public in Hong Kong are solicitors who have been granted notarial faculties by the Archbishop of Canterbury in England. At present, the Archbishop does not grant notarial faculties to applicants from Hong Kong without the prior approval of the Chief Justice. The applicants also have had to sit and pass a notarial examination organized by the Master of Facilities (who is a High Court Judge) in England. These arrangements, however, have no statutory basis.
The Bill provides new arrangements for examining and appointing applicants as notaries public in Hong Kong. Firstly, it amends the Legal Practitioners Ordinance to give the Chief Justice power to appoint as notaries public solicitors admitted in Hong Kong who are of at least seven years' standing and who have passed a qualifying notarial examination. Second, it empowers the Chief Justice to set the qualifying examination and to remove from registration, suspend, restore and lift a suspension in respect of a notary public. Third, it specifies the powers of notaries public. Fourth, it provides for the continued keeping of a Hong Kong Register of Notaries Public. Fifth, it preserves the professional position of persons who are notaries public in Hong Kong immediately before the commencement day of this Bill if enacted. Finally, I should make clear that the Bill does not affect the notarial powers of consular officers under the Consular Relations Ordinance.
Mr President, I commend this Bill to this Council.
Question on the motion on the Second Reading of the Bill proposed.
Debate on the motion adjourned and Bill referred to the House Committee pursuant to Standing Order 42(3A).
INSURANCE COMPANIES (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
THE SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES to move the Second Reading of: "A Bill to amend the Insurance Companies Ordinance."
He said: Mr President, I move that the Insurance Companies (Amendment) Bill 1996 be read the Second time. The Bill seeks to amend the Insurance Companies Ordinance to enhance protection for the insuring public.
The three main objectives of the Bill are:
(a) to update the minimum capital requirements for general and long-term insurers and the minimum solvency margin requirements for general insurers;
(b) to ensure that the solvency margin is commensurate with the level of risk covered by the insurer; and
(c) to restrict the use of the words "insurance" and "assurance" to persons regulated under the Insurance Companies Ordinance.
A number of other relatively minor or technical amendments are proposed to improve the operation of the Ordinance.
The purpose of the minimum amount of paid-up capital is to ensure that the insurer has a minimum level of financial resources with which to pre-finance its operations and to provide a reasonable safeguard against the risk that its assets may be inadequate to meet liabilities arising from unpredictable events. These minimum requirements are important safeguards of the interests of policy holders.
The current levels of these minimum requirements have not been updated since the Insurance Companies Ordinance was enacted in 1983. Aggregate inflation since then has been about 146%. The real value of these requirements has therefore been eroded and is now inadequate to provide the level of protection for policy holders originally intended. The Administration therefore proposes a 100% increase for the two requirements. The minimum paid-up capital requirement for an insurer intending to carry on or carrying on either general or long-term business will be increased from $5 million to $10 million, whilst that for both general and long-term business or general business alone but including compulsory business (for instance, employees' compensation insurance business) will be raised from $10 million to $20 million.
Similarly, the minimum amount of solvency margin will be raised from $5 million, or $10 million where the general business includes compulsory business, to $10 million or $20 million respectively. This increase will not only compensate for the effect of inflation but will bring the solvency margin requirement more into line with equivalent requirements in Australia, Singapore and Malaysia.
As any increase higher than 100% at this stage would be considered excessive by the insurance industry, we propose to review the need for a further increase within 12 months' time.
The solvency margin required for a general business insurer is also deficient in that it is determined solely by the premium income of an insurer without regard to his claim liabilities. Hence policy holders of an insurer which has no premium income but has outstanding claims are exposed to considerable risks represented by the absence of a solvency margin commensurate with the amount of his claim liabilities. To remedy this, we propose that a general business insurer be required to maintain a solvency margin determined on a "premium basis" or "claim liabilities basis", whichever is the higher.
The Bill also proposes to increase by 100% the level of fines set in 1983 for contraventions of the Insurance Companies Ordinance, so as to maintain their deterrent effect.
We further propose to prohibit use of the word "insurance" or "assurance" in business names without the consent of the Insurance Authority, unless the user is an authorized insurer, an appointed insurance agent or an authorized insurance broker regulated under the Insurance Companies Ordinance. The purpose is to prevent the public from being misled as to the authorized status and true nature of the business carried on by persons not regulated under the Ordinance. The proposal is in line with the Banking Ordinance, which restricts use of the word "bank" by persons other than banks.
To allow time for insurers to comply with the proposed capital and solvency margin requirements, a transitional period up to 31 October 1997 is proposed. For restriction on the use of the word "insurance" or "assurance", a transitional period of one year from enactment of the Amendment Ordinance is proposed, since some companies not engaged in the insurance business may be using these words in their business names. Other proposed provisions will apply with effect from the date of enactment.
Thank you, Mr President.
Question on the motion on the Second Reading of the Bill proposed.
Debate on the motion adjourned and Bill referred to the House Committee pursuant to Standing Order 42(3A).
BUILDINGS (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
THE SECRETARY FOR PLANNING, ENVIRONMENT AND LANDS to move the Second Reading of: "A Bill to amend the Buildings Ordinance."
He said: Mr President, I move the Second Reading of the Buildings (Amendment) Bill 1996.
The Bill seeks to improve the Buildings Ordinance in three areas.
First, as shown in the Kwun Lung Lau landslip, leakage of drains and sewers may affect slope safety. It is therefore essential to ensure that investigations of drains and sewers are done regularly, so as to enable any defect or leakage to be rectified as soon as possible. For public drains, sewers and water mains, Government departments have completed inspection of these buried services in 1995 and necessary follow-up repair will be completed before the wet season this year. In addition, programmes have been drawn up for periodic inspection of these buried services in future. Owners of private properties also have the duty to properly maintain the private drains and sewers serving their buildings. We therefore propose that the Building Authority should be empowered to require owners to hire an Authorized Person to investigate if there is any leakage, defect or inadequacy with the drains and sewers which serve their buildings, where such drains or sewers are laid in or in the vicinity of any slope or earth-retaining structure, and submit a report of the results to him. The Building Authority will be allowed to exercise this power only if he thinks leakage, defect or inadequacy of the drains or sewers may result in landslips or collapse of structures, and such landslip or collapse may cause a risk of injury to any person or damage to any property.
We also propose that failure to comply with the Building Authority's order or knowingly misrepresenting a material fact in the investigation report will be made offences.
Second, it is important to facilitate the recovery of costs of works carried out by the Building Authority. Under the existing Buildings Ordinance, the Building Authority may, for reasons such as ensuring public safety, serve statutory orders on building owners to carry out building works. In case of non-compliance, the Building Authority will carry out the works on behalf of the owners, and the costs of works should be recovered from the owner of the property at the time when the order is served.
In Hong Kong, properties change hands frequently. An owner served with the order may have already sold his property before the works carried out by the Building Authority are completed. Since the previous owner no longer has an interest in the property, it is often difficult to trace him and recover costs from him.
Since the works in question will enhance the value and assure the safely of the property, we propose that a person who is the owner at the time when the works are completed should be charged for the costs instead. To protect property buyers, the Building Authority will be allowed to do so only if he has registered the order at the Land Registry upon the service of that order. A prospective buyer will therefore have notice of his potential liability before he buys the property.
Third, under the existing Buildings Ordinance, the Building Authority is empowered to apply to the court for a closure order to close a building for, say, safety reasons. When the building becomes fit for re-occupation, the Building Authority will issue a notice of expiry of the closure order and post a copy on the building. However, the building may be demolished subsequent to being served with the closure order. There is currently no provision effecting the automatic withdrawal of a closure order upon the demolition of the concerned building. We therefore propose to amend the Buildings Ordinance to dispense with the service of a notice of expiry of a closure order, when the building to which it relates is demolished or ceases to exist.
Mr President, I commend the Bill to this Council. Thank you.
Question on the motion on the Second Reading of the Bill proposed.
Debate on the motion adjourned and Bill referred to the House Committee pursuant to Standing Order 42(3A).
DUTIABLE COMMODITIES (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
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Question on the motion on the Second Reading of the Bill proposed.
Debate on the motion adjourned and Bill referred to the House Committee pursuant to Standing Order 42(3A).
MEMBER'S MOTIONS
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That in relation to the -
(a) Land Registration Fees (Amendment) Regulation 1995 published as Legal Notice No. 35 of 1996;
(b) Land Registration (New Territories) Fees (Repeal) Regulation 1995 published as Legal Notice No. 36 of 1996;
(c) Land Registration Fees (Amendment) Regulation 1995 (Amendment) Regulation 1996 published as Legal Notice No. 37 of 1996;
(d) Land Registration (New Territories) Fees (Repeal) Regulation 1995 (Amendment) Regulation 1996 published as Legal Notice No. 38 of 1996;
(e) Land Registration (Amendment) Regulation 1996 published as Legal Notice No. 39 of 1996;
(f) Ferry Services (The "Star" Ferry Company, Limited) (Determination of Fares) (Amendment) Order 1996 published as Legal Notice No. 40 of 1996;
(g) Aerial Ropeways (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996 published as Legal Notice No. 41 of 1996; and
(h) Lifts and Escalators (Safety) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996 published as Legal Notice No. 42 of 1996,
and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 24 January 1996, the period referred to in section 34(2) of the Interpretation and General Clauses Ordinance (Cap. 1) for amending subsidiary legislation be extended under section 34(4) of the Ordinance until 6 March 1996."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
All these eight Regulations, namely, Land Registration Fees (Amendment) Regulation 1995, Land Registration (New Territories) Fees (Repeal) Regulation 1995, Land Registration Fees (Amendment) Regulation 1995 (Amendment) Regulation 1996, Land Registration (New Territories) Fees (Repeal) Regulation 1995 (Amendment) Regulation 1996, Land Registration (Amendment) Regulation 1996, Ferry Services (The "Star" Ferry Company, Limited) (Determination of Fares) (Amendment) Order 1996, Aerial Ropeways (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996 and Lifts and Escalators (Safety) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996 involve fee increase.
Members of the Subcommittee formed to study these Regulations have identified issues which require further consideration. To allow time for the Subcommittee to consider these points in depth and to seek further clarification from the Administration, it is necessary to extend the time allowed for making amendment to the subsidiary legislation until 6 March 1996.
Mr President, I beg to move.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) (Fees) Regulation, published as Legal Notice No. 9 of 1996 and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 10 January 1996, be amended -
(a) by repealing section 8;
(b) in the Schedule -
(i) in Part I, by repealing everything after "PART I";
(ii) in Part II, by repealing items 1 to 5, 6(a) to (f) and (h), 7, 9, 10 and 11;
(iii) by repealing Part III."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the second motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
A Subcommittee was formed on 12 January 1996 to study the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) (Fees) Regulation and six other Regulations, Orders and Notices. I was elected chairman of this Subcommittee which has six members. The Subcommittee held three meetings, including two with the Administration.
Members noted that most of the fees listed in the Regulation were to be revised upwards by 10% to the current cost level effective on 1 March. Ten fees were also introduced to account for necessary charges in procedures consistent with the Ordinance. Members studied carefully the cost computation of the fees, the number, rank, and cost of staff employed for the services and the method used to calculate the rate of fees of three items. Members asked how the cost could be justified in terms of the efficiency of the Marine Department and the Administration replied that this had been ensured by way of established control mechanisms within the Government such as careful allocation of resources and auditing.
Members also asked how other parts in the region were dealing with foreigners on seafarers' qualifying examinations, and was satisfied that Hong Kong could maintain competitiveness in the region with the fee increases.
Members learned that the fee level set at full cost recovery for foreign seafarers helped to protect job opportunities for Hong Kong seafarers.
After finding all available and relevant information, the majority view of the Subcommittee was that the fees relating to local seafarers should not be increased in the light of the present economic situation. However, those fees items related to foreign seafarers should be increased as they would not affect the livelihood of the community in Hong Kong and since it would not be right for Hong Kong to subsidize foreign seafarers. I was asked to move to repeal the fee increases as set out in the Regulation with the exception of those items related to foreign seafarers.
There was however a different view expressed which was to support the Regulation. The reasons were that the increased fees would not stimulate inflation and would not adversely affect the livelihood of the community.
Mr President, I have to report to Members the developments since the House Committee last received the report of the Subcommittee. In drafting the resolution to repeal, we have encountered some difficulties. As we had to deal with a total of 132 fees, our Legal Adviser had initially intended to separate them into different categories of existing fees which were currently charged under the Merchant Shipping (Fees) Regulation (sub. leg. of Cap. 281), the Merchant Shipping (Recruiting of Seamen) Ordinance (Cap. 135), or simply done administratively and which are being transferred to Legal Notice No. 9 before us.
Given the time constraint, I was advised by our Legal Adviser that it would not be safe for us to attempt to identify which fees are being transferred and which are being increased and by how which, without assistance from the government department concerned. As the decision of the Subcommittee is to increase only those fees applicable to foreign seafarers, and given the problem we encountered for locals as I have outlined, the only option left for us was to word the resolution to repeal to exclude the proposed increases for foreign seafarers. Taking this approach would not prevent the Government from continuing to collect existing fees under existing arrangements. The only move that would jeopardize existing arrangements is if the Administration were to proceed to appoint a date of commencement for the new Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) Ordinance and to repeal the relevant legislation which formed the legal basis of the present arrangements before we are able to effect the transfer, which would be as early as when the Administration could present them to this Council. I ask Members forbearance and understanding with such a complex and difficult package, and urge Members to support my motion to repeal, in order that the Administration and ourselves could do this in such a way so as to be totally satisfied with the knowledge as to the exact consequence of our voting decision to every one of the 132 fees. The Administration is of course at liberty to come back at any time to ask the case to be reconsidered once the categorization is complete.
Mr President, before I close, may I, on behalf of the Liberal Party, once again state simply and clearly that we advocate the freeze on all government increases in fees and charges because we believe in times of economic downturn as the one we are experiencing, it makes no sense for the Government to accumulate so much surplus, drawing the pockets of citizens, whatever the row in the community. The Government is certainly not practising what it preaches and is not leaving money in the taxpayers' pocket.
During the last Budget, the Financial Secretary estimated a deficit of $2.6 million for this financial year. Instead, we are in fact looking at a surplus of $10 million which brings our reserves to a total of $158 billion which is $13 billion more than the forecast present to this Council last year.
Why does the Government insist on soaking all this money from the community? Why does the Government insist on "users pay" and full cost recovery when the Treasury's balance sheet is so healthy? Why is the Government adopting commercial principles for services rendered to the public?
Mr President, the Liberal Party objects to the way that the Administration through its top echelon misrepresents and menaces our case to the business sector, the media and the community. We accept that a supposedly executive-led government which needs no votes in this legislature has to lobby for support. But what has been said about our position and our case is unfair and unwarranted. And so long as the biased messages continue, so will we continue to reiterate our case. We are confident our policy on government fees and charges is beneficial to enterprise, is helpful to livelihood and enjoys wide support in the business community.
Mr President, with these remarks, I move that the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) (Fees) Regulation be amended as set out in the Order Paper.
Question on the motion proposed.
SECRETARY FOR ECONOMIC SERVICES: Mr President, first I would like to take up Mrs CHOW's points that the Administration stands ready to come back and provide any justification, any fact, any figures needed, with the hope that we will convince Members that what we have proposed is fair and reasonable.
If I may, Mr President, I would just like to make a few points on the motion. Firstly, the motion proposes to repeal several items of legislation where no increases are actually sought in the fees charged. These items concern fees for miscellaneous services set under section 8 of the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) Fees Regulation and fees payable in relation to crew accommodation under Part I of the Schedule of this Regulation. These are existing fees presently included in regulations made under the Merchant Shipping Ordinance and they are transferred to the new Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) Ordinance.
The motion in effect asks Members to repeal fees which have already been agreed by this Council and which have been enforced for some months. Moreover, all fee items under section 8 and Part I of the Schedule are paid by shipping companies in respect of services. The livelihood of seafarers is in no way affected.
Secondly, the motion proposes to repeal the great majority of fees to be set under the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) Ordinance and the Merchant Shipping Ordinance where fee increases are indeed proposed. The consequence of this motion would be twofold. Firstly, if Members were to vote today to repeal fees for miscellaneous services provided under the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) Ordinance, the Director of Marine would no longer have the ability to charge any fee for any such miscellaneous service under that Ordinance. Secondly, and more importantly, the great majority of fees to be made under the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) (Fees) Regulation falls under a new piece of primary legislation which is the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) Ordinance. The coming into force of this Ordinance is entirely reliant on there being in place a comprehensive body of supporting regulations. These regulations, I believe, have already been agreed by Members with the exception of the fee regulations. If we are unable to set fees for the services to be provided by the Marine Department under the new Ordinance, then clearly that puts in doubt the wisdom of bringing into effect the new Ordinance. We would have then to continue rely on using an old and outdated piece of legislation. The new Ordinance the purpose of which is to regulate the welfare of seafarers then cannot come into effect, notwithstanding that it has in its entirety the support and backing of Hong Kong's maritime community. This Ordinance provides for the legal backing of various international conventions including those of the International Labour Organization as they apply to seafarers. It cannot be, I suggest, the intention of the legislature when they actually approved the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) Bill in June 1995 that such a circumstance could be allowed to happen.
I would also like to point out that none of the fees involve any real livelihood dimension. In dollar terms, the proposed increases are modest and will have a minimal effect, if any, on inflation. For example, the fee in relation to Engine Room Watch Rating Certificates and Navigational Watch Rating Certificates will increase from $140 to $155 in percentage terms, around 10% similar to that which is proposed for the majority of the items involved. There will only be a handful of items which will have a greater rate of increase. But in respect of most of these items, there have been no increases since 1966, 30 years ago, and 1975.
Mr President, I know some Members have strong feelings on the matter of government fees. I can assure Members that the Administration has been very cautious and reasonable in proposing the fees for the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) Ordinance. Indeed the Administration will still only recover less than 30% of the cost for this group of services, even if the fees were implemented. Let me say it again. These are not livelihood issues. Many of the fees concerned are paid by employers, not seafarers. It would be sad if Members were, in rejecting the fees, forcing us to put on the backburner a piece of modern legislation designed to protect the seafarer, his employer and the industry as a whole a piece of legislation agreed in all aspects by the seafarers themselves.
Mr President, I am afraid I have to urge Members to reject the motion.
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MR RONALD ARCULLI: Mr President, firstly, I would like to congratulate our friends in the Administration for a very divisive and decisive lobbying efforts of my colleagues in this Chamber. In today's speech, Dr HAUNG, on behalf of the Democratic Party, no longer makes reference to the higher unemployment rate or to the economic slow-down. He talks about inflation and livelihood as being the factors in which the Democratic Party will consider applications for increases in fees and charges by the Government. As far as our friends in the DAB are concerned, they used the words "provided it does not have a direct impact on livelihood". I do not know any fees and charges that the Government imposes that does not have an effect on livelihood sooner or later. I hope the Government is not taking a line of dividing the community into issues which some of the members of the community may perceive to be livelihood issues whereas others would perceive to be expenses to be borne by the business sector because the business sectors surely but sadly would revise their costs and indeed pass on the cost, if they can thus assuming business survives, to the consumer. So from that point of view, we must not allow short-term arguments and the greed of the Government in terms of raking in unwanted and unnecessary dollars to go to government coffers because if the Government continues doing that, the demand for government expenditure to increase will surely rise, expectations would surely rise and that is only fair. Mr President, so, I urge my colleagues in the Council here not to be swayed by short-term arguments, certainly not arguments that they need the money to implement a new and modernized Ordinance, when we have instances of non-increase in fees by government department upwards of 30 years.
Mr President, I think with those words, I obviously will support the Honourable Mrs Selina CHOW's motion, but I urge other Members in this Chamber to do so as well.
Thank you.
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MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I would just like to point out that what the Secretary for Economic Services said is technically correct, in that existing fees are included in the entire package before us. However, it is not correct for him to lead Members into thinking that by repealing the motion, existing fees cannot be charged. They are being collected right now. And so far the Administration has chosen not to bring into effect the new Ordinance just as Dr HUANG has said earlier, and therefore nothing prevents the Government from bringing it into effect after and only after the necessary subsidiary legislation is eventually passed.
I have to point out that the difficulty we have now is, as I pointed out earlier in my speech, in identifying the fees which are being transferred from those which are being increased, and so on, particularly given the time constraint and the legal advice we received that it would be unsafe for us to take on this exercise without the assistance from the Administration.
I would also take this opportunity to rectify the Secretary for the Treasury. We are advocating a freeze on increases of fees. We are not advocating a freeze of all fees.
Question on the motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
Mr IP Kwok-him and Dr Philip WONG claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on the motion moved by Mrs Selina CHOW to amend the Merchant Shipping (Seafarers) (Fees) Regulation. Will Members please proceed to register their presence by pressing the top button and cast their votes by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr Henry TANG, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr James TIEN, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr Paul CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Miss Christine LOH, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Miss Margaret NG and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen voted against the motion.
Mrs Elizabeth WONG abstained.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 34 votes in favour of the motion and 14 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
Suspension of Standing Order 36(4)
DR LEONG CHE-HUNG: Mr President, I rise to seek your consent for me to move without notice a motion to enable the duration of the division bell for certain divisions to be shortened. On 9 February 1996, the House Committee unanimously agreed that I was to move such a motion to reduce to one minute the duration of the division bell in the event of further divisions being claimed in respect of the remaining motions to be moved under the Interpretation and General Clauses Ordinance at this sitting.
PRESIDENT: You have my consent.
DR LEONG CHE-HUNG: Mr President, I move that in the event of further divisions being claimed in respect of the remaining motions to be moved under the Interpretation and General Clauses Ordinance at this sitting, Standing Order 36(4) be suspended so that the President may order that the Council do proceed to each of such divisions immediately after the division bell has been rung for one minute.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to.
PRESIDENT: I now order that in the event of further divisions being claimed for the remaining motions to be moved under the Interpretation and General Clauses Ordinance at this sitting, the Council do proceed to each division immediately after the division bell has been rung for one minute.
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That the Merchant Shipping (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996, published as Legal Notice No. 10 of 1996 and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 10 January 1996, be repealed."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the third motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The Merchant Shipping (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation was studied by the Subcommittee I mentioned earlier on in my second motion. I think that the deliberation and arguments are almost identical to the ones which I have presented in my last speech. I urge Members to support my motion for similar technical reasons that I have outlined when I spoke on the last motion. Thank you, Mr President.
Question on the motion proposed.
SECRETARY FOR ECONOMIC SERVICES: Mr President, in response to Mrs CHOW's second motion, I have already explained the rationale behind the proposed fees revisions.
May I just make that point again that in fact in June 1995 this Council approved the new Ordinance. Since then we have been working on a whole set, a complete set of regulations, and I think Members have actually approved all of them with the exception of fees. Without this set of regulations on fees being approved, I am afraid we cannot bring in the new Ordinance and therefore we are still relying on the use of the outdated existing Ordinance.
I also would like to reiterate that in fact the increases proposed are very modest, 10%, and they were last revised actually in 1994. Since then, inflation has actually exceeded this level that we have now proposed. Most of the items related to Legal Notice No. 10 are for examination fees, such as fees for examination for Certificates of Competency as Trawler Masters and Trawler Engineers. These are not fees that have to be paid regularly. Clearly the proposed increases will have little impact on the livelihood of seafarers as such.
I do urge Members again to reject the motion.
Question on the motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
Dr Philip WONG claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on Mrs CHOW's third motion which is for the repeal of the Merchant Shipping (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996. Will Members please register their presence and then proceed to vote by selecting one of the three buttons below the top button?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr Henry TANG, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr James TIEN, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr Paul CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Miss Christine LOH and Miss Margaret NG voted against the motion.
Mrs Elizabeth WONG abstained.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 40 votes in favour of the motion and six votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That the Companies Ordinance (Amendment of Eighth Schedule) Order 1996, published as Legal Notice No. 11 of 1996 and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 10 January 1996, be repealed."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the fourth motion standing in my name on the Order Paper. I shall speak about the Companies Ordinance (Amendment of Eighth Schedule) Order 1996, the Limited Partnerships Ordinance (Amendment of Schedule) Order 1996, the Companies Ordinance (Fee for Taking Affidavit, Affirmation or Declaration) (Amendment) Notice 1996 and the Trustee Ordinance (Amendment of First Schedule) Notice 1996 at the same time, since these four Orders and Notices were studied en bloc by the Subcommittee I mentioned early.
If increases in fees as set out in these four Orders and Notices were not allowed, the Administration said that the Company Registry would incur a deficit of about $7 million in the financial year 1996-1997 and could not proceed with improving its customer services. Members of the Subcommittee however observed that the Registry was in fact earning money because there would be a projective surplus of $8 million after taxation and before interest. Members also observed that the Government would be able to get from the sum of profit tax and interest payment at about 10% on its investment in the Companies Registry Trading Fund.
The majority view of this Subcommittee was that this return was high and that the fee increases should not be supported. The Subcommittee therefore asked me to give notice to repeal these four Orders and Notices. A Member of the subcommittee however expressed reservation about his stance. He said he would consult some smaller commercial and industrial establishments first before he could decide whether the increases were reasonable.
Mr President, with these remarks, I move that the Companies Ordinance (Amendment of Eighth Schedule) Order 1996 be repealed.
Question on the motion proposed.
SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES: Mr President, first of all, I am grateful that some Members have indicated that they are prepared to approve the various proposals put forward by the Companies Registry.
By way of response to the Honourable Mrs Selina CHOW, perhaps I will make one particular point regarding deficits and interest and loans related to the Companies Registry. The point was made that the Registry would be operating at a deficit without the fee increases on the ground that without the repayment of interest on the loan to the Registry by the Government there would be no deficit. The point here is that the Registry is operating at arm's length from the Government and is financed partly by a loan from the Government. If it is to operate on a quasi-commercial basis as intended, then it is to be expected that it should pay interest on any loans. If the Registry were to be given free money or no-interest loans, then in financial terms, it would make no sense for the Government to establish it in the first place. I am sure we all recall that the setting up of the trading fund system for the Companies Registry was passed by this Council as recently as 1993.
The objective of funding services in this way is to enable those services to respond more effectively to the needs of their users by giving management the financial flexibility to run the services in a more commercial way.
Mr President, the last point I wish to make is this. This Order and the related legislative amendments in fact constitute part of a package of fee proposals in respect of the Companies Registry, two elements of which Members were good enough to support earlier this afternoon. And I therefore look forward to your continued support and to approve the fee revisions. Thank you, Mr President.
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MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I only wish to speak in response to the Secretary for Financial Services' speech earlier on.
Why should the Government keep on operating on quasi-commercial principles while at the same time it is collecting all these taxes and building up such a huge reserve. The appeal of the trading fund concept at the time was that certain services operated by the Government should in fact be on par in terms of efficiency, so that there could be savings for people who use those services, but not for the Government to keep on justifying securing a certain return on net fixed assets, a certain percentage return plus interest plus tax. Everything goes into the Government pocket and it all comes from the private sector.
I of course regret that the Democratic Party cannot in fact support my motion as it was said earlier on by Mr Ronald ARCULLI. All businesses would in fact affect livelihood. The two are inseparable, particularly when we think of small businesses which make up the majority of business and enterprise in Hong Kong. I am quite disappointed that the Democratic Party should take this position.
Whether this motion passes successfully or not, I would really like to call on this Council to think about not just this particular case, but about the broad direction in which the Government is taking us. Why is it that the Government is making a profit from us while at the same time we are in fact contributing to taxes? Thank you.
Question on the motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Noes" had it.
Dr Philip WONG and Mrs Selina CHOW claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on Mrs CHOW's fourth motion which proposes to repeal the Companies Ordinance (Amendment of Eighth Schedule) Order 1996. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Miss Emily LAU, Mr Henry TANG, Mr James TIEN and Mr Paul CHENG voted for the motion.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Eric LI, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were eight votes in favour of the motion and 40 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was negatived.
Clapping from the public gallery.
PRESIDENT: Please maintain order.
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That the Limited Partnerships Ordinance (Amendment of Schedule) Order 1996, published as Legal Notice No. 12 of 1996 and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 10 January 1996, be repealed."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the fifth motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
I have set out the reasons for repealing the Limited Partnerships Ordinance (Amendment of Schedule) Order 1996 when I moved the last motion and I would not repeat them here.
Mr President, I beg to move to repeal the Order.
Question on the motion proposed.
SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES: Mr President, I would only make one point, and that is, again like the previous motion, the increase is needed so as to enable the Companies Registry operating under a trading fund system to continue to develop and to upgrade to meet demands from the users. Not to have the increase will of course means that taxpayers will be subsidizing the users, although the users themselves are very keen in fact to have the new developments and the new improvements which will be quite different from what they were used to many years ago the almost Dickensian conditions inside our Companies Registry. Therefore I will continue to urge Members to support the fee adjustment. Thank you.
Question on the motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Noes" had it.
Mrs Selina CHOW and Mr James TIEN claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on Mrs CHOW's fifth motion which proposes to repeal the Limited Partnerships Ordinance (Amendment of Schedule) Order 1996. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members please check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Miss Emily LAU, Mr Henry TANG, Mr James TIEN and Mr Paul CHENG voted for the motion.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Eric LI, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were seven votes in favour of the motion and 39 votes against it. The therefore declared that the motion was negatived.
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That the Companies Ordinance (Fee for Taking Affidavit, Affirmation or Declaration) (Amendment) Notice 1996, published as Legal Notice No. 13 of 1996 and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 10 January 1996, be repealed."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the sixth motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
I have set out the reasons for repealing the Companies Ordinance (Fee for Taking Affidivat, Affirmation or Declaration) (Amendment) Notice 1996 when I moved the last motion and I would not repeat them here.
Mr President, I beg to move to repeal the Notice.
Question on the motion proposed.
SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES: Mr President, I do not have anything to add except to thank Members once again for supporting the Companies Registry and its users. Thank you.
Question on the motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Noes" had it.
Mrs Selina CHOW claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on Mrs CHOW's sixth motion which proposes to repeal the Companies Ordinance (Fee for Taking Affidavit, Affirmation or Declaration) (Amendment) Notice 1996. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Miss Emily LAU, Mr Henry TANG, Mr James TIEN and Mr Paul CHENG voted for the motion.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Eric LI, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were seven votes in favour of the motion and 40 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was negatived.
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That the Trustee Ordinance (Amendment of First Schedule) Notice 1996, published as Legal Notice No. 14 of 1996 and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 10 January 1996, be repealed."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the seventh motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
I have set out the reasons for repealing the Trustee Ordinance (Amendment of First Schedule) Notice 1996 when I moved the fourth motion and I would not repeat them here.
Mr President, I beg to move.
Question on the motion proposed.
SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES: Mr President, I have nothing to add.
Question on the motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Noes" had it.
Mrs Selina CHOW claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on Mrs CHOW's seventh motion which proposes to repeal the Trustee Ordinance (Amendment of First Schedule) Notice 1996. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. We are three short of the head count. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Miss Emily LAU, Mr Henry TANG, Mr James TIEN and Mr Paul CHENG voted for the motion.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Eric LI, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were seven votes in favour of the motion and 40 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was negatived.
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That the Clubs (Safety of Premises) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996, published as Legal Notice No. 16 of 1996 and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 10 January 1996, be repealed."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the eighth motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The Subcommittee concerned has studied the Clubs (Safety of Premises) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996 carefully and held an unanimous view that this Regulation should be repealed. The reason was that the Government would be making ends meet by the end of March next year when the 328 clubs which are currently operating under the Certificates of Compliance and paying $660 per annum would be converted to operate under the Certificates of Compliance and would be paying from $3,200 to $49,000 per annum, depending on the floor area they occupy. Such a development renders the proposed increase totally unnecessary.
Mr President, with these remarks, I move that the Clubs (Safety of Premises) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996 be repealed.
Question on the motion proposed.
現叭璓勉畊ネ穦┬玻兵ㄒ琌る秨﹍ネヘ砞ミ甅帽祇靡砏恨穦ňの縱惫琁沮赣兵ㄒ砏﹚竒犁穦ゲ斗眔僚靡┪靡
酚現┎現郸現┎狝叭ㄏノΜ禣ノ砰莱璶ìや场Θセ硂兜玥獶盽璶琂琌セ翠祙Μ璶吏琌и-
蹦ノ祙膀и-
瞷某рΤ闽Μ禣矗蔼9%ぃ筁琌璶Μ帽祇靡㎝僚靡龟悔秨や筁祘い˙艼
某穦痙種き︓せず現叭羆竝琁︽靡笲Θセ︳璸笷1,380窾じτさ眖帽祇靡㎝僚靡Μ禣い┮眔Μ痲︳璸Τ460窾じ羆Θセ33%
и璶眏秸セ砏ㄒ癸チネ㎝硄等礚紇臫и略玃叫ミ猭Ы某ぃ璶紀埃1996穦┬玻禣ノ璹砏ㄒ玥и-
祙獽斗膥尿戈êㄇ穦τ场だ穦常琌╬犁θ诀篶┪╬產穦狝叭硂陪礛琌ぃ瞶㎝ぃそキ
谅谅畊ネ
独綺笽某璓勉畊ネ硂兜砏ㄒ璶籔ňΤ闽и-
讽糵某顶琿纯ボ穦や㏄辩睶┥某某璶琌谋眔繧ㄤ龟琌璶拜肈Μ禣玱ぃ琌膀繧祘τ琌膀縩縩㎝繧琌⊿Τ﹚闽玒┮蔼繧穦┮ㄤ龟跑盢Τㄇ竒蕾Θセ锣簿︓⊿Τ繧穦┮ōи-
谋眔現┎莱赣浪癚俱ンㄆぃ莱琵硂ぃそキ薄鶪膥尿
ぃ筁チ囊竒筁σ納谋眔ぃ斗硂兜浪癚τ挡禣硂兜秸俱癸硄等㎝チネ⊿Τ钡㎝盞ち紇臫и-
谋眔礚猭や㏄辩睶┥某硂兜某ぃ筁и-
璶―現┎ゲ斗浪癚俱Μ禣琜篶и-
谋眔瞷琜篶ぃそキ
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I would like to point out for Members' attention that in fact as far as the information that has been submitted to the Subcommittee is concerned, the amount of existing fees as proportionate to the cost per establishment in terms of gross floor area just covers the 1994-95 prices of cost per establishment. In other words, the existing fees are already recovering the cost at the moment. If we raise the fees, then we are actually paying more than what the actual figure is being outlined to us on the cost. I would just like to supplement that point for Members' attention.
Question on the motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Noes" had it.
Mrs Selina CHOW and Mr TSANG Kin-shing claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council will now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on Mrs CHOW's eighth motion which proposes to repeal the Clubs (Safety of Premises) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Miss Emily LAU, Mr Henry TANG and Mr James TIEN voted for the motion.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE, Mrs Elizabeth WONG and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were six votes in favour of the motion and 40 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was negatived.
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That the Boilers and Pressure Vessels (Amendment) Regulation 1996, published as Legal Notice No. 33 of 1996 and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 17 January 1996, be repealed."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the ninth motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The Subcommittee I mentioned earlier formed to study the seven Regulations, Orders and Notices took on the study of the Boilers and Pressure Vessels (Amendment) Regulation 1996 on 19 January 1996 as well. Having studied the statistical information provided by the Administration for issue of Certificates of Competency, Members of the Subcommittee held the view that the Labour Department should be able to operate the scheme within budget even without the fee increase.
Therefore I move that the Boilers and Pressure Vessels (Amendment) Regulation 1996 be repealed.
Question on the motion proposed.
毙▅参膚璓勉畊ネ沮1996羚膌の溃甧竟璹砏ㄒи-
某秸俱沮羚膌の溃甧竟兵ㄒ材6兵┮帽祇靡Μ禣
パ靡癸Τ莉眔竨ノ踞ヴΤ闽琌Τ腊ΜΘセよΑビ烩靡Μ禣ノ琌そキ㎝瞶暗猭и-
某盢ㄢ兜Μ禣だ矗蔼︓300じの557じ某Μ禣碩琌9%才現┎禣秨やキ搭基计/き︓き/せ跑笆
и璶眏秸硂兜Μ禣秸俱癸羚膌の籡═甧竟巨の局Τ紇臫伐稬ぶ癸ヒ摸禣基计㎝カチ礚紇臫
и略玃叫セЫ某∕硂兜某
谅畊ネ
独綺笽某璓勉畊ネチ囊ぃ種現┎弧杠Τ斗ボ靡靡ㄣΤ巨羚膌㎝籡═甧竟┮硂籔ㄤΤ闽穦ㄤΘセ糤и-
谋眔硂籔硄等㎝チネΤ闽狝叭よτē琌Τ闽и-
や㏄辩睶┥某某
Question on the motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
Mrs Selina CHOW and Dr Philip WONG claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are called upon to vote on Mrs CHOW's ninth motion which proposes to repeal the Boilers and Pressure Vessels (Amendment) Regulation 1996. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr Henry TANG, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr James TIEN, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr Paul CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Mr Eric LI, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Miss Christine LOH and Miss Margaret NG voted against the motion.
Mrs Elizabeth WONG abstained.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 41 votes in favour of the motion and six votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
INTERPRETATION AND GENERAL CLAUSES ORDINANCE
MRS SELINA CHOW to move the following motion:
"That the Employment Agency (Amendment) Regulation 1996, published as Legal Notice No. 34 of 1996 and laid on the table of the Legislative Council on 17 January 1996, be repealed."
MRS SELINA CHOW: Mr President, I move the tenth motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
The Subcommittee formed on 12 January to study seven Regulations, Orders and Notices took on the study of the Employment Agency (Amendment) Regulation 1996 on 19 January as well. Members of the Subcommittee held the unanimous view that the current amount of licence fee at $1,400 should not be further increased. This amount was already three times of the amount charged in October 1992 at $500 and was a result of three counts of increases since then, first to $800 in November 1992, then to $1,000 in December 1993 and again to $1,400 in December 1994. Since only three years and four months had passed for the amount to be brought upwards from $500 to $1,400, Members considered that a further increase would not be justified.
Mr President, with these remarks, I move that the Employment Agency (Amendment) Regulation 1996 be repealed.
Question on the motion proposed.
毙▅参膚璓勉畊ネ沮沟赌兵ㄒ材XII场砏﹚ヴ︙Τ種翠竒犁戮穨ざ残┮ゲ斗骋矪矪ビ烩礟酚
瓃礟酚禣筁┕环矗ㄑ祇礟狝叭Θセ酚現┎現郸狝叭Μ禣莱璹ìΜ场Θセキи-
パ癬–秸俱礟酚禣рΜΘセゑㄒ硋˙矗蔼辨き︓せ镑Μ场Θセ
沮1996戮穨ざ残┮(璹)砏ㄒи-
某р帽祇礟酚Μ禣矗蔼︓1,720じ礟酚捌セΜ禣玥秸俱345じ穝Μ禣盢パせるら癬ネ某碩琵現┎Μ场Θセ
иゲ斗眏秸某禣癸瞷1 000丁戮穨ざ残┮竒犁Θセ㎝柬Τ淮稬紇臫ㄆ龟羛穨ざ残┮︽穨ぃは癸さΩ碩硂兜某ョぃ穦紇臫ヒ摸禣基计㎝蒥チネキи略玃叫セЫ某∕硂兜某
谅谅畊ネ
腑瓣辆某璓勉畊ネ硂兜砏ㄒ某碩23%チ羛猭琌и-
ぃは癸現┎禣琌ノΜΘセи-
穦σ納碩琌蔼硄等﹚︑ミ初碞硂兜砏ㄒи-
穦や㏄辩睶┥某某
パチ羛ミ猭Ы某るきらㄊ砐拜┮Τ闽舱〆穦秨穦и-
常⊿Τ把穦某τゼだ笷チ羛硂よ種ǎ璓ㄏи-
さぱщ布璶癸せ兜舱〆穦種ǎ矗は癸и略瞏簆種
独綺笽某璓勉畊ネ㏄辩睶┥某睲贰弧硂兜砏ㄒ某秈︽碩獶盽硉и-
谋眔穦癸戮穨ざ残┮そ竒犁硑Θ螟程ぶ癩現穦瞷溃и-
谋眔瞷さ竒蕾耕螟吏挂ぷㄤ癸そ莱Τ戈и-
谋眔現┎莱挡硂兜禣
Question on the motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
Mrs Selina CHOW claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on Mrs CHOW's last motion which proposes to repeal the Employment Agency (Amendment) Regulation 1996. Will Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: We are two or three short. Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Edward HO, Mrs Miriam LAU, Dr LEONG Che-hung, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Miss Emily LAU, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr Henry TANG, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr James TIEN, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Mr Paul CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr Ambrose LAU, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the motion.
Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Miss Christine LOH, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan and Miss Margaret NG voted against the motion.
Mrs Elizabeth WONG abstained.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 34 votes in favour of the motion and 11 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
PRESIDENT: I have accepted the recommendations of the House Committee as to the time limits on speeches for the motion debate and Members were informed by circular on 12 February. The mover of the motion will have 15 minutes for his speech including his reply and another five minutes to speak on the proposed amendment. Other Members, including the mover of the amendment, will have seven minutes for their speeches. Under Standing Order 27A, I am required to direct any Member speaking in excess of the specified time to discontinue his speech.
PROPOSAL OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY'S AD HOC COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE DOMESTIC PROPERTY OWNERSHIP BY SITTING PUBLIC HOUSING RENTAL TENANTS
MR LEE WING-TAT to move the following motion:
"セЫは癸┬〆穦そ︘め局Τ╬︘穨拜肈盡砫舱〆穦璶―そ︘めビ厨戈玻某"
ッ笷某璓勉畊ネさぱиΩ盢Τ闽碔め現郸拜肈盿ミ猭Ы臛阶Ω臛阶琌るセЫ讽硄筁セ矗笆某璶―┬〆穦篗綪碔め現郸瘤礛さΩノ嘿硂現郸ぃ筁琌侣碔め現郸┑尿
畊ネ硂穝碔め現郸ノ"蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌"ㄓ被耿膀糷蒥チ秨ヘ夹
ㄤ龟現郸┮眏秸琌癸êㄇネ竒э到そめ搭ぶ戈眏-
潦禦﹡┪煤蒥現郸陪種碞琌"Τ蒥チ莱煤"硂現郸玥そキ莱ノ穦褐現郸狝叭ぇ琌続
狦и-
やそめいネ祔э到﹡チ碞璶煤ユ蒥и稱拜ネэ到蒥チ讽-
︘そミ洛皘琌莱赣煤ユゑ蔼︘皘禣ノ︓蒥︘皘禣ノネэ到產畑弄厩莱煤ユ禣厩禣┪蒥厩禣硂ぃ琌或ē羜钮筁碭現┎矗洛励Μ禣籔Θセ本恥の洛励だ兜Μ禣の程厩碩糤厩禣ㄤ龟タ琌現┎稱秈˙玠搭癸穦褐狝叭┯踞瞷
畊ネ瞷ΤそめいΤ58%め-
︘そ⊿Τ竒筁ヴ︙戈玻糵琩﹡チ玡琌硓筁睲╊れホ┪╬加︘そ-
︘そ局Τ﹚戈玻︘そぃヴ︙糵琩︘琿丁瞷秈︽糵琩τ璶-
煤ユ蒥硂贺暗猭蛤"衡姐"⊿Τだ
畊ネ侣碔め現郸崩︽竒玻ネ產畑ぃ㎝ㄆンめ恶厨戈璶眏皌案のそ秨瞷璶そ秨–戈玻產畑Θぇ丁玻ネ現郸穦產畑ぃ㎝ㄆン祇ネ┬兵ㄒ璹店厨戈め璶┯踞ㄆ砫ヴビ厨戈玻戈獶盽羉狡穨布独═ó礟酚︳基穦繦蒥初τ跑てτめ⊿Τκだκ獺み眖產畑Θ眔タ絋戈侣碔め現郸㎝穝現郸妓穦ㄏめ埃め膟搭┪戈玻キ現郸穦╊床產畑穦ㄏ侣そ恏跑ρ恏籔穦の┬〆穦躬纘籔產︘現郸璉笵τ梗
畊ネ┬〆穦秈︽現郸吭高玡近の╬加﹡チ╆硂ㄇ┮孔"碔め"臦そ穦ョ辣憨帝こ硂ㄇ碔め猑硂贺こ跌琌現┎︑谋┪ぃ︑谋硑Θ顶糷丁こ跌竒瞷穦盿ㄓ穦ぃ铆﹚ㄤ龟翠穦の現囊ぃ尺舧ョぃ矗顶癸ミ┪Τ窥籔⊿Τ窥だ猍ㄓ臛阶穦現郸の穦戈方だ皌拜肈狦┬〆穦┪┬尺舧笆珼癬顶膀ぇ丁ぃΜぇ丁ベ┪珼癬顶丁ベ狦τ盿ㄓ穦极のぃ铆﹚硂琌現┎稱猭
畊ネパ硂穝碔め現郸吭高戳秨﹍︓瞷現┎ごゼ矗辨笷ㄣ砰ヘ夹ㄢる吭高戳竒筁и-
ぃ耞钮ぃ筁琌現┎蔼﹛ぃ耞滦"戈方瞶だ皌""Τ莱璽踞"单崩綪┦腹ㄏミ猭Ы┬ㄆ叭〆穦ㄢΩ疭穦某ぇい畊﹛ごぃ矗ヴ︙ㄣ砰ヘ夹╯澈硂現郸︳璸–Μぶ虫︗腊Τ惠璶㎡–Μぶ肂現┎﹛癹磷俱糵琩︘め戈玻筁祘穦疉の胑︽現禣ノ┬竝盢渤盡穨代秖畍畍跋┬竝矪瞶ビ叫も禣ノの產癸︳基Τぃ種ǎτ禗︽現禣ノЧ留縡眔岿簗κ熬︽現禣ノ︳璸癸硂現郸獺め穦钩崩︽侣碔め現郸妓埃め膟ㄓ発磷硂現郸穦Μぶ虫︗のΜぶ肂龟妮好拜癸Θセ痲現郸現┎蔼﹛ご礛ぃ臮狦崩︽胔好硂現郸琌ぃ琌Τㄤ留旅ヘ
畊ネ┬〆穦盢﹡秖ぃ耞碩矗蔼Ι埃眖τㄓ︘虫︗︘虫︗羆计秖パ箂667 700淮稬糤︓き684 000и狡Ω箂虫︗羆计秖667 700き虫︗羆计秖684 000硂きず瞓糤眔窾︘虫︗筁きキА–瞓糤眔3 400τ丁﹡瞓糤14 800︓箂箂箂硂ず┬〆穦箇璸穦扳畉ぃ窾﹡虫︗硂ずㄑ莱秖礛糤﹡禥﹡まぷㄤ琌癸厚ビ叫ま尿ノ蒥琌硓筁胓籃┦現郸ㄏそ﹡チ潦禦禥﹡
畊ネ癸そめぇいネэ到﹡チи-
粄ノ躬纘┦現郸ま-
潦禦﹡碞竒ì镑ㄤ龟筁せタそ﹡︘め獶盽裤臘ノ厚ビ叫潦禦﹡禬肂ビ叫パ︓12ぃ单τ煤ユ蛮︘め┮砞疭﹡皌肂ョΤ禬肂粄潦┮ぃ琌-
ぃ稱ǐτ琌-
ビ叫ΩΩ砆∕畊ネ⊿Τヴ︙胓籃┦現郸︘そ﹡チご礛︑笆︑谋瞒秨そ現┎︙璶羭埃獶Τぃㄤヘ
畊ネチ囊粄硓筁躬纘┦惫琁まそめ潦禦﹡の穝σ納扳そ璸购竒矪瞶そ︘めぇいネэ到︘め拜肈τ礚斗矗胓籃┦穝碔め現郸
畊ネセ略朝勉笆某某
Question on the motion proposed.
PRESIDENT: Mr Edward HO has given notice to move an amendment to this motion. His amendment has been printed on the Order Paper and circularized to Members. I propose that the motion and the amendment be debated together in a joint debate.
The Council shall debate the motion and the amendment together in a joint debate. I now call on Mr Edward HO to speak and to move his amendment. After I have proposed the question on the amendment, Members may express their views on the motion and the amendment.
MR EDWARD HO's amendment to MR LEE WING-TAT's motion:
"埃"は癸""やそ戈方莱赣惠璶だ皌玃叫"蠢"┬〆穦""璹"埃"璶―そ︘めビ厨戈玻""某""矗蔼Θセ痲の荷秖搭ㄤ耑チ祘""
︙┯ぱ某璓勉畊ネи笆某タッ笷某某タず甧某ㄆ祘ずи┮更
る┬〆穦纯碞"环┬郸菠い戳浪癚"秈︽秸琩挡狦陪ボΤ13%そ︘め局Τ╬︘穨硂瞷禜竒忌臩穦林阶眏疨粄局Τ穨τㄉそ戈方琌ぃそキるョ秈︽チ種秸琩砆砐そ︘めいΤ65%ボぃ钡そ﹡チ局Τ穨τ╬加︘めい玥Τ68%種ǎ砆砐いΤ88%ボ局Τ穨そ︘め莱赣綞そ
"蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌"吭高戳ずи-
莱赣钮そ渤種ǎτミ猭Ы臛阶瞶莱σ納"そ︘め局Τ╬︘穨拜肈盡砫舱"竒筁ㄢ癚阶τ矗玥莱絋ボや临琌は癸赣玥
盡砫舱玥琌蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌璶氨ゎ戈竒蕾ì酚臮セō︘惠璶︘め狦-
匡拒膥尿そ﹡︘玥斗煤ユカ
璶∕﹚そ︘め竒蕾キゲ斗パ-
ビ厨戈玻硂琌そキ秆∕拜肈闽龄ッ笷某某ノ硂м砃闽龄ㄓゎ硂玥辅龟狦某琌は癸硂玥иセぃ惠璶矗タ某щ布よΑ∕﹚や┪は癸
セや蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌玥硂ョ琌︑パ囊ミ初瘤礛さぱΤㄇ︑パ囊ㄆゼゲ畊穦某
翠ぶ︘菌ㄓ琌現┎璶秆∕拜肈現┎ョщ秖穦戈方篒︓きるら現┎у禬筁1 000そ臣戈羆肂1,420货じ玥そ璸购琌酚臮竒蕾キぃì秆∕︘惠璶カチτぃ琌酚臮ì局Τ穨︘め
硂и稱弧ッ笷某弧舱某琌璶膀糷秨и稱禗瞷┮﹚㎝戈玻肂竒κだぇ程蔼Μぇи谋眔-
ゼゲ嘿"膀糷"
芠и-
ゲ斗氨ゎ戈局Τ穨の讽戈玻︘めи粄穦Τ痷タ惠璶戈カチ临⊿Τ眔戈沮┬〆穦参璸近Τ15窾めτぃ耞Τ穝簿チㄓ翠Τ秖穝簿チ伐惠璶︘そ┮┬拜肈丁ずゼゲ镑秆∕
セ翠戈方㎝膀Τぃ琌и-
弧е獽еㄆ龟そ砍硉戳ョ祏τ搭篊ㄓの璶–糤窾虫︗箂箂龟瞷环璸购硂ぃ琌ン甧ㄆ惠璶ゴ瘆┕硉癘魁
︓┮孔"ビ厨戈玻琌耑チ"拜肈盡砫舱竒Ω瞏癚阶︙搭ぶ耑チ祘盡砫舱某璶―煤ユ蛮︘め窾ビ厨戈玻琌┮Τめκだぇきτ硂ㄇ碔め匡拒ぃビ厨-
ぃビ厨玥煤ユカビ厨戈玻琌ゲ斗ョΤㄒ穿ㄤそ诀篶猭穿矪┪┬穦タ崩︽Жみ顶糷┬璸购ョ惠璶カチビ厨"絋玂︘め┮ㄉΤ戈琌惠璶だ皌ㄏ戈方镑Ττそキ笲ノ"┬〆穦ョ惠璶ビ叫︘そカチビ厨硂贺瞶璶―眖ㄓゼ獶某種玥ぇ︑パ囊某矗蔼Θセ痲㎝搭ぶ耑チ祘︓灿竊и穦琵ㄆ㏄辩睶┥某某и程钮カチ種ǎボ局Τ穨そ︘め璶盢そユ临и谋眔硂顶琿璶蹦秨篈钮ㄇカチ種ǎ
畊ネセ略朝勉タッ笷某某
Question on the amendment proposed.
MRS ELIZABETH WONG: Mr President, I rise to make several points in support of the original motion. First of all, to introduce a system where a lot of the people have to undergo consciously a declaration of assets will create, in my opinion, administrative chaos.
Secondly, if the asset declaration is not checked, then it will probably introduce abuse. If checked, it will again be a nightmare of administrative control.
Thirdly, in Hong Kong where social mobility is lauded as characteristic of success, I think it is very uncharacteristic of Hong Kong people to actually be envious of those people in public housing who have become wealthier than before. We should be happy for them. We should not penalize them.
Fourthly, we all need a roof over our head, but I really do not, for the life of me, see how this asset declaration scheme will help to create more housing for those people who are not housed. How do you create units?
So let us have a system where we must build and build more units for people without housing and let us have a new, innovative housing policy where people have a roof over their head and feel they belong. Until we have that, let us not muck about with the policy and create problems, for not only residents but for those people who are in control of the policy. Let us not tinker with the policy.
With those remarks, I support the Honourable LEE Wing-tat's original motion. Thank you.
讲蚌某璓勉畊ネ┬〆穦妮"そ︘め局Τ╬︘穨拜肈盡砫舱〆穦"ら玡そガ"蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌"吭高ゅンㄤい眏秸ㄢ玥
1. そぃ琌╬癩玻そ琌穦そΤ癩玻琌Τ惠璶矗ㄑ﹡┮珿そ﹡チ⊿Τゲ礛舦沧ōㄉノそ戈︓"脓"
2. 惠璶倒ぉそ戈Τそ戈方眔Τそキ笲ノ
盡砫舱硂ㄢ玥某璶―戈現郸莱煤蛮计窾め"蛮︘め"惠璶ビ厨戈玻の璝ㄤ戈玻瞓のА禬筄琘肂盢Τㄢ匡拒ぃㄉΤそ戈传ēぇ斗煤ユカ┪綞そ莉纔磃兵ン潦禦﹡ㄤヘ琌ㄏ-
乃そ虫︗琵ぉΤ惠璶ぇ產畑盡砫舱某そ戈方斗莉瞶だ皌弘琌眔や琌パ現郸紇臫約獂の瞏环龟琁狡馒м砃拜肈珿ぃ眔ぃ稸╯
硂現郸種琌皐癸Τ窥碔めㄏ-
ぃ穦ッ环臦そτ癸-
秈︽戈玻糵琩礛τ硂ㄇ戈玻糵琩惫琁璝矪瞶ぃ讽盢穦玻ネ耑チ狦τ穦ま璓獻デ╬留舦у蝶︓┬竝秈︽硈﹃戈玻糵琩τщ胑戈方琌眔ごΤ坝篹︓︙蝶﹚糵琩戈玻夹非穦ョΤ某
渤某いΤ碭兜琌眔и-
╯ㄒノ垦ネ礟琌莱讽璸衡戈玻ぇず㎡ㄒ癸翠砮ㄓ硄砯勘等蔼加基ぃ耞鰐どぃぶ翠珹い顶糷圭腀竊︾罽ǒǒ璚璚ㄑ糷加玂のら緄ρ︓疵セ硂兜戈玻莱莉眔僚㎡ㄒ布═ó穨单糵琩ぇㄇΤ基癩ㄒ独痌腳︓赋单玥ぃ璸衡ず琌讽璝癸硂ㄇΤ基癩璸衡杠︙糵﹚㎡︙璹硂眎糵琩睲虫㎡癸盡砫舱某の戈玻瞓肂穦ョま癬ぃぶ某
盡砫舱某糵琩戈玻"蛮︘め"いΤㄇ讽琌現┎Μ綞╊紇臫τ加硂ㄇ讽琌礚斗竒筁糵琩τ︘そ-
讽莉眔︘そ琌妮贺干纕┦借㎡ヘ玡現┎のチ丁癸АΤぃ猭癸硂ㄇそ︘め莱秈︽戈玻糵琩㎡
龟琁硂兜現郸盡砫舱︳璸–︽現禣ノ蔼笷300窾じ龟琁硂兜糵琩┏镑ㄏぶ碔め癶そ㎡и-
硂技碔めτ斗癸窾め秈︽戈玻糵琩琌骋チ端癩㎡
畊ネセ觅Θ絋玂そ戈方眔瞶だ皌讽и-
よ计糷﹡︘徖ネ兵ン伐畉﹡︘丁伐疷羬㎝糳临Τ泞﹡チ㎝澜めτよㄣΤ讽竒蕾碔めご沮帝穦Τ戈玻そи-
镑跌璝礚窣盾︓玂臔硂技碔めτгみ琵硂ㄇ絘澜め膥尿﹡︘螟吏挂盾ら厨彻纯厨笵そ碔め局Τㄢ╬穨3,000窾じА︑簿チご臦そ虫︗┬竝琵そ虫︗﹡︘τ沧ゎㄤ玱τ北禗現┎ヘ玡拜肈琌瞷︽現郸籔砏﹚ぃそ︘め局Τ﹚Μの癩碔τ沧ゎㄤ硂癸Τ痷タ惠璶糷﹡チㄓ弧琌伐ぃそキ
讽礛秆∕顶糷﹡︘拜肈璶临琌璶糤そ絋玂そ戈方莉眔瞶だ皌ョ妮ゲ斗セ觅Θ璹現郸の砞ミ诀ㄏそ戈方镑惠璶莉眔瞶だ皌琌ぃ﹚璶―┮Τ"蛮︘め"А斗ビ厨戈玻и-
璹猭ㄒ┪砏﹚甭舦┬竝ㄣ砰薄鶪璶―琘ㄇ︳璸Μの戈玻瞓蔼﹚肂碔めビ厨戈玻︓Μの戈玻瞓肂ぶ瞶㎡產畑ㄒセ粄盡砫舱┮某肂窾じ琌瞶琌Τ闽戈玻瞓某﹜続讽矗蔼︓禬筁150窾じ
畊ネセ略朝勉谅谅
朝胞糭某璓勉畊ネ"┬〆穦そ︘め局Τ╬︘穨拜肈"盡砫舱璶―そ︘めビ厨戈玻某膀ㄢ兜玥材そ戈方琌そΤ癩碔ぃ琌╬癩玻材そ戈方莱赣酚惠璶だ皌パ璚そ筄15窾ㄑぃ莱―珿某硓筁戈玻糵琩虑璶―场だ竒蕾Τ┮э到︘乃虫︗琵ぉΤ惠璶玥惠璶煤カ搭ぶ現┎癸硂ㄇ︘め瑉禟
硂礷玥钮ㄓ甎甎笆钮ラΤ笵瞶眖瞏糷Ωㄓ獽穦祇谋Τぃ瞶ぇ矪ゑよ弧加都加畒︗Τ螟眔т眔畊︗玱砆ル璸近び畒︗Τㄑぃ莱―瞶パ璶―ボ窥甶ボ癩碔硅讽礛加チぃ穦眏碞絛Τㄒぃㄌ璶痙膥尿珇玥斗煤き琍皊┍禣
妓硂ㄒΤㄢ兜玥加そノ獶┮縒ㄉ琌酚惠璶τだ皌戈方┪砛畊ネ穦弧硂ゑ畴ぃㄢ贺薄鶪ぃ荷и┯粄絋Τぃぇ矪竒犁ョΤ安加竒犁ρ钩瞷┬〆穦ê妓暗е獽璶"磅擦"パ瞷┬〆穦パ現┎磝舦舦碞螟はиョよ碞琌ㄢА癸どゆカチぃ琌そ︘ゑ礚ーぃ蔼砍﹟匡拒產竩そ︘匡拒緇玱獶盽ぶ琌そキ瞶
筁跋秨闽﹡チ穦いそ﹡チ羘ぃぶи程筁ㄇ﹡のそ恏畊﹡チ穦钮︘﹡﹡チ種ǎチ极弧琌ぃぶ﹡チ弧眔︙"砛﹛ぃκ﹎翴縊"
┬〆穦璶―そ︘めビ厨戈玻礚好琌┑尿の耎碔め現郸ゴ阑の皐癸у︘そ﹡チτ近そ產畑玥Τ15窾碞瞷Τ窾め紇臫そ﹡チㄓ弧弧琌狹ó羱ぃ礚秆∕そㄑ―拜肈はτ琌骋チ端癩硑Θ"碔め"㎝"獶碔め"︓そ﹡チ㎝獶そ﹡チだて畊ネи-
粄現┎硂贺暗猭龟悔琌盢瞷翠そ戈方拜肈锣簿┮孔"碔め"ōそ﹡チ跑Θ竜ο妓癸-
だぃそキ
狦и-
臮そ菌讽現┎蹦蛮夹非絪皌┬筄计そ︘め琌睲╊┪Μ璸购紇臫τ莉そ竚τ礚斗糵琩讽ョ⊿Τ羘ぃ局Τ╬穨の惠璶ビ厨戈玻ㄆ龟┮Τそ﹡チА碻猭硚畖眔そ荡獶┮"臦"﹡︘舦龟そ﹡チ莱眔玂毁и-
⊿Τ弧硂琌"脓"
礛τ场だ局Τ╬︘穨そ﹡チ讽いΤΘ琌︑︘︓禬碔め度妮计场だそ﹡チ局Τ╬加ㄤ璉琌Τ砛畊ネ筁и┮よΤΘ﹡︘そиぃぶ﹡チ砆璶禦ㄇも加-
﹡︘吏挂澜ㄢ︘い虫︗戳澜薄鶪-
砆竊︾罽潦禦も加ㄓ干毕瞷﹡︘そび澜薄鶪畊ネ拜и︙ぃ璶―現┎秆∕澜拜肈㎡и禗畊ネ璶現┎秆∕弧丁秆∕ぃ
ぶㄓи纯桂ΩΤぃぶ︘め︘めご礛﹡︘虫︗ず硂弧現┎セō⊿Τ兵ン┪澜め拜肈よ暗眔ぃτ﹡チ璶砆潦禦╬加
и-
パ龟悔翠穦玂毁ぃì镑瞷ぃぶρ產癶τぃヰㄏи-
獵稰み荒パ現┎⊿Τ癶ヰ玂毁-
盢ㄓネΤ玂毁τ砆潦禦ㄇ稧基も加盢ㄓ癶ヰ非称
┮弧┮孔"碔め"龟悔ぃ琌碔め┮孔"局Τ╬穨そ﹡チ"セōΤ璚癑и-
粄現┎瞷︽現郸琌ぃタ絋
и-
粄┮孔"戈方穝だ皌"琌盢ㄇ絘í砲˙
и-
荡癸ぃ觅Θ現┎現郸и-
やッ笷某某は癸┬〆穦璶―そ︘め穝ビ厨戈玻︓︙┯ぱ某タパび泞参種琌觅Θ現┎暗猭┮и-
常ぃやタ膀硂ㄇиさぱ祇ē琌や某は癸タ
谅谅
THE PRESIDENT'S DEPUTY, DR LEONG CHE-HUNG, took the Chair.
辩模┚某璓勉瞶畊ネ┬〆穦砆カチ篕ろ┦璹現郸ゼは琈炊霉﹡チ種腀︓癸翠俱砰﹡︘拜肈硑Θ睼睹ョ硑Θぃぶぃそキ㎝ぃ瞶瞷禜程沧玃ㄏ玻坝㎝蝗︽產寥眔骸臆骸τカチ玥璶膍沧ネ传虏倦﹡┮
翠┎き秆∕ホ谄Ю╝チ﹡︘拜肈秨﹍膀糷カチ砍そ犁┬︓さ矗ㄑ﹡┮ㄏ俱砰穦戈㎝穦玂毁ごΤ耕铆﹚祇甶礛τタ硂翠┎瞶莱ぃ居膥尿绰硂ヘ夹祇堡琌膀┬〆穦Θ舱ΘΘだ㎝現┎セō琂眔痲泊ǎそら痲勘等癸玻坝の蝗︽產痲篶Θ腨獽み碝―秆∕硂礚ヰゎ砍そ璸购ㄆ龟┬〆穦戳硈﹃篶琌琇礛璝处ㄒ
穝碔め﹚竡璶煤カ現郸潦禦﹡锣扳倒そ﹡チ﹡ョ硂薄鶪禦眖硂ㄇ薄鶪陪現┎Τ種扳τぃ琌秖そ犁┬硂贺薄鶪そ﹡チ穦妓磃癸近15窾カチΤ或腊㎡
穝碔め現郸ㄤ龟紇臫窾碔め玱璶骋畍笆渤璶產ビ厨戈玻程︳璸Τ计惠璶煤ユカ狦-
圭腀煤カぃ腀綞瞒刚拜現┎璸购Θ腊15窾块┮ㄤ龟現┎暗猭ヘぃ筁琌稱芥τぃ琌
現┎礚種祇甶そㄓ秆∕顶糷カチ︘拜肈Ы﹚ㄒ
. そ┬砍璸购い﹡砍计秖ゑそ砍计秖現┎安砞カチ癸﹡惠―秖耕硂安砞礚龟悔计瞶沮
. 現┎硄筁穝現郸ㄏ﹡穨盢︘骸︘┮扳倒そ﹡チ現┎粄羭ㄏそ﹡チ潦禦︑竚﹡┮﹡贾穨τョ乃ㄇそ虫︗倒近琌瞷╬加禥祘現┎粄痷Τ秖﹡﹡チ┻扳﹡虫︗盾τ現┎穦獺Τ秖﹡﹡チず璓碔τ璶扳︑虫︗τ璶潦禦╬︘虫︗
. ┬〆穦崩穝碔め現郸材纔倒穝碔め潦禦﹡иу蝶筁硂現郸Θセぃ
. 產常笵Τㄢヴ┬ㄆ叭〆穦某ミ猭Ы某肚碈靡龟翠┎の┬〆穦蔼糷纯硓臩箂箂氨そ篶高拜-
種ǎ現┎˙˙船斌そτ璶そ﹡チ潦禦﹡硂薄鶪だ陪
現┎∕みㄏカチ︘﹡┪綞┕╬加硋亥ぃ稱砍そ禗и-
現┎┮孔琵カチ﹡ヘぃ筁琌稱耚叉┯踞そ砫ヴτㄆ龟и祇谋Τ碭笆诀靡現┎Τ硂贺種腀
. 現┎粄砍そ癸┬〆穦ㄓ弧琌胑癩現璽踞礚ヰゎ蝴恨瞶禣ノ单現┎ぃ稱璉璽硂钓
. 粄籔そゑ﹡竤犁硑耕﹚の铆穦吏挂﹡﹡チ耕堡︑局Τよ虏虫ㄓ弧現┎粄甧恨瞶
. 現┎玂毁玻坝の蝗︽產痲ぃ穕ㄏ场だそ﹡チ潦禦╬加玂毁╬加基硂絋陪ボ現┎Τ笆诀ぃ膥尿┑そ璸购
ㄆ龟畊ネ翠Τせκ窾埃场だ碔め礚好硂ㄓ较ネ竤い玻顶糷τ-
辨ㄉ耕蔼借ネよи-
翠ごΤ计κ窾い单﹡チ-
ネキい单τ砲絘︘め獶盽讽いヘ玡ご礛烩侯絯Τ11窾иョ翠竒蕾薄鶪ぃ耞ǐ℡よ基加基玱ぃ耞ど硂贺薄鶪癸炊霉カチㄓ弧潦禦╬︘┮ㄤ龟琌獶盽螟ぃ矗ㄑ铆﹚﹡┮
さら臛阶琌Τ闽そ︘め局Τ╬︘穨拜肈某は癸舱璶―そ︘めビ厨戈玻セ瞏稰觅埃膀ぃそ﹡チネ眔э到τ胓籃-
玥临Τ
. 硂暗猭耑チτぃ瞶ㄆ龟垦ネㄣ┮孔"戈玻"セぃ璸衡︘め癩碔场だ
. 某ぃそキ產畑ΘΜぃЧパめ北ㄒめ戮瞶パㄤ戈玻Μぃ镑Ч倒產畑め盢礚猭璽踞
セ略朝勉や某
虫ヲ昂某璓勉瞶畊ネиき烦獽秨﹍︘そ┬︘讽иΘ產ミ璶挡盉獽惠璶綞瞒硂そ虫︗そ琵ぃぶ產畑今铆﹚ネ讽硂ㄇ產畑ΘΘ吏挂э到常穦笆碝т﹡┮
琌現┎瞷玱矗硂ゅン硂ㄤ龟琌胓籃┦ゅン硂贺胓籃┦琌璶琵笵狦ネэ到獽璶翴祙ㄤ龟現┎莱赣硓筁祙叭ㄓэ跑硂骋眔τぃ莱硓筁そ畊ネи稱иㄆッ笷某穦冈灿哪瓃硂ㄇ芠翴
и稱弧翴碞琌и匡跋ずΤ恏珹釜疐恏痕冰れ攫㎝ホ芚恏硂у恏穦睲╊硂у恏︘め硂ゅン某砆ユ蛮戳
︑眖秨﹍龟琁硂碔め現郸ㄓ現┎常倒ぉそ︘めユ蛮戳癸ㄇ吏挂セㄓ畉ㄤ跑眔吏挂耕︘めㄓ弧硂ユ蛮戳琵-
ずΤ耕铆﹚ネ羭虏虫ㄒ釜疐恏κ虫︗﹡チ瞷斗煤ユ计κじ綞秈㎝坑Αそ璶煤ユ竒琌2,400じ琌玡せ狦璶煤ユカ2,400じき獽单12,000じパ500じ糤︓12,000じ糤碩琌计
и獺硂穦ゴ阑︘め癸縩伐┦ョ穦几筁祘抖祘и辨┬竝┪┬穦穦癸硂現郸
ㄤ龟玥и琌は癸俱碔め現郸ぃ筁и谋眔и璶眏秸┬〆穦崩硂現郸琌籹硑穦ベベぃㄓ︑そ﹡チ㎝獶そ﹡チ籹硑そ﹡チ籔そ﹡チぇ丁ベ
┬竝捌竝霉璖丛纯竒矗筁"崩┰現郸"硂"崩┰現郸"よㄏㄇそ﹡チ瞒秨そよノㄇ护碽┦現郸まㄇそ﹡チ潦禦﹡ㄤ龟硂惫琁程沧穦旧璓╬穨カ初惠―糤╬穨カ初惠―糤穦ㄏ加基玙ど程沧甡ぃ虫琌そ﹡チτ琌砰翠カチ
и辨現┎┪瞷у蝶硂現郸┪觅Θ硂現郸常秆硂翴硂現郸ぃ虫皐癸そ﹡チㄤ龟甡琌翠カチㄇ竒"─"埃-
竒禦穨ぃ惠璶穨肺减
ㄤ龟癚阶硂兜ヘ現┎竒盽弧秈︽浪癚龟︽現郸и種硂翴┬独琍地ネタ╯Τ闽环┬郸菠ゅン穦い矗癚阶現┎莱赣禗и-
俱砰┬郸菠琌妓礛σ納硂戈玻糵琩某
硂戈玻糵琩某狦痷Τ惠璶и眏秸и玥琌は癸硂某莱赣琌狝叭环┬郸菠ㄤい兜ヘヘ夹τぃ莱瞯瞷獽矗ㄓ癚阶ゼカチ睲贰ユ环┬郸菠獽箂床ㄓ癚阶иノ砃粂琌"筣掸"縤眔ぶ獽ぶ盢そ﹡チ玠眔ぶ獽衡ぶ
и谋眔硂現郸腨ゴ阑そ﹡チ㎝非称Τ┬惠―и眏秸翴Τ┬惠―珹獵硂ㄇ獵盢ㄓ挡盉ぃ琌︘そ碞琌潦禦╬加瞷︽┬現郸辨旧璓场だカチそ﹡チ┪非そ﹡チ瑈╬穨カ初и辨┬独琍地ネ镑浪癚硂現郸礛矗癚阶硂ゅン
㏄辩睶┥某璓勉瞶畊ネ琍戳ミ猭Ы璓硄筁扳そ某タさぱ臛阶矗ㄑ▆膀娄碞琌そ戈方琌だ皌程Τ惠璶カチō
琍戳某骸ìそめ竚穨種饼さぱ臛阶玥врそ戈方瞶だ皌倒Τ惠璶τ⊿Τ︑パ囊Νㄇ纯竒弧筁や吭高ゅン玥癸ゅン某惫琁ノ乃そ虫︗よΤㄇ胔好︑パ囊粄ゅン碞︙рそ戈方繦㎝穦吏挂锣跑τ秸よ琌タ絋灿竊碞Τゲ璶続讽э琂ㄏ戈方眔続讽だ皌ョ搭ぶ癸瞷Τそ﹡チ逮耑
и獺矗某ッ笷某ョぃ穦璶―ゴユ祙ㄓ戈るきせ窾じ產畑︘-
そはτ硂ㄇ单ゴ產畑碞璶单そき︘╬加-
⊿Τ兵ン︘そ
︑パ囊竒筁冈灿τ瞏吭高チ種眔挡阶籔┬〆穦参璸挡狦璝计カチ粄ぃ莱赣笆ノそ┊场だパるじ┮煤ユ祙蹿τ眔現┎畐┬Μ膥尿竒碔Τそ﹡チ矗ㄑ–め–るじ┬瑉禟
︑パ囊纯碞吭高ゅン瓾‵バ釜疐じ芖㎝い﹁跋秈︽摸贝癚カチ種ǎ笆﹡チ穦そ钮穦拜单络﹚︑パ囊程某沮
и-
祇瞷计祇種ǎカチぃ阶琌そ﹡チ常钡そ戈方莱ノΤ惠璶ō拜肈碔め﹚竡琌或琌そキτカ琌瞶σ納よ種ǎ︑パ囊琎ぱㄤ龟そガи-
程某珹璶絛氓
材и-
粄璶煤ユカ產畑莱赣Τ
近肂產畑Τ54,400じ產畑
酚硂Μ︳璸Τぃ7 000そ產畑紇臫τ翠璸硂ㄇ琌程蔼Μ阀6%產畑鶪翠瞷瓣チネ玻羆––Μ168,000じ–る14,000じ產畑璸衡琌56,000じオ
戈玻琌近肂ぇ220產畑琌2,992,000じ
璹硂计ヘи-
σ納產畑璶潦竚╬加基穦单-
镑戈︘ぇ﹡基畉ぃㄢ琌璽砫厨舱┮瓃產いぃ穦场倒ぉ產畑ㄏノи-
ョ臮のΤ﹡チ癸ネ癩┮ノ戈玻ó礟单眏疨種ǎ┮璹计莱赣璶糴肞ㄇ
材絛氓琌カ莱睲捶﹚瞷ぇτぃ琌厨┮瓃︓きオ狦砞Τ碩穦ㄏ紇臫﹡チ稰紐納らョ穦縀祇ベ︓琌ㄇ眏疨ビ禗
材絛氓琌籔﹚璶崩︽︑パ囊琍戳矗"絬匡拒"獽Τ兵ン﹡チ秖潦禦瞷︘虫︗┪穝そ┪﹡
絛氓琌矗ㄑ仓縩ㄑ蹿璸购躬纘耕碔肝そ﹡チ煤ユカぇずビ叫﹡рカ㎝蛮ぇ畉仓縩ㄑ蹿矪瞶и-
獺硂癸縀-
ビ叫﹡Τ﹚ノ
材き碞琌瞷禗诀惠びи-
某砞ミ盡砫禗措笵荷е矪瞶硂よ禗
и-
粄吭高ゅンいр匡拒舦ユ﹡チも琵-
∕﹚琌ビ厨戈玻ㄆ龟硂琌暗猭и-
粄璝-
┮ビ厨產畑笷ぃ碞ぃ惠璶ビ厨戈玻传杠弧ョぃ惠璶煤ユカ
︙┯ぱ某弧筁Τ矗"禬碔め"莱赣砆綞︑パ囊纯竒冈灿σ納硂某︓σ納1,000窾じ琌狦蹦硂暗猭┮Τそ﹡チ常ゲ斗ビ厨戈玻龟︽玥и-
ぃ觅Θ┮и-
ぃや硂某
瞶畊ネ膀瓃瞶パи㊣苸ㄆや︙┯ぱ某タ
朝挪狶某璓勉瞶畊ネそ戈方琌Τи獺⊿Τ穦は癸и-
ゲ斗み笲ノそ戈方笷Τの瞶だ皌さΩ┬〆穦現郸某琌暗戈方瞶だ皌龟琌好拜
沮そガ現郸吭高ゅンず甧局Τ戈玻瞓禬筄そ近肂110τ–る產畑羆禬筁近肂產畑竒蕾瞶莱Τ潦禦﹡τぃゲ︘そи-
ぃ窽穦拜计る丁吭高穌荷福ツ碞琌稱璶60窾めそ﹡チいт计竒蕾Τ┮э到︘め聾哦
埃ぇ讽ЫΤ︙瞶沮粄產畑羆琌瞶蝶︳非玥㎡硂某狦龟︽杠и-
胔好穦淮產畑Θ穐瞒セその硉產畑だ瞒ρ產畑Θ酚臮硂籔吭高ゅン矗–產畑"АЧ俱砰"瞶├Τ┮ぃョ籔翠┎竒盽矗產畑璶癸ρだ酚臮ヘ夹璉瞒
戈玻糵琩種琌辨┮孔"禬碔め"︑︽竚穨某い現郸玱琵ㄤ匡拒煤ユ瞷そ︓き羭陪礛礚猭笷璓ヘ夹よ讽Ыヘ玡ゎごゼ絋ち禗и-
狦現郸眔崩︽╯澈笷或ㄣ砰ヘ夹ㄒΤぶそ虫︗τ乃ㄓ璝场だ︘め圭腀煤ユ禥杠崩︽硂現郸種竡穦Τ㎡
眖秆∕近拜肈àㄓи-
粄某い現郸龟悔癬ぃびノΤ闽某┬竝惠璶计κ窾じ︽現禣穦Μぶ计虫︗ττ硂某セō碞ぃ琌戈方瞶笲ノ某狦讽Ы種﹖︽杠穦稰谋┬〆穦よ虑迭蔼よ盢カチ猔種锣簿"禬碔め"ō癹磷カチ癸ㄤ砍そ虫︗ぃì宁砫硂贺"琩ō產"よ猭龟琌逮耑︓伐
チ羛绊そ犁┬琌Τ铆﹚穦τそ犁┬莱瞷︽碔め現郸ㄤ龟搭癸竒蕾锣﹡チ戈龟ぃ莱癸︘め秈︽戈玻糵琩秈˙笻はㄏ﹡チ﹡ヘ某いゴ阑"禬碔め"現郸"ノ︑"の"碔"玥簍枚硂琌ぃそキ㎝ぃ瞶穦狝叭Μ禣玥
そ犁┬現郸瞷崩︽戈方琌そキだ皌㎡氮琌﹚酚ヘ玡┬絪皌現郸τē秈そ近產畑膀セ琌穦程惠璶秆∕﹡︘拜肈顶糷戈玻糵琩ヘ玱琌璶竒︘禬筁︘めい┾ぶ计竒蕾吏挂祔"禬碔め"璶-
Ч┯踞戈方だ皌ぃそキ砫ヴ癸-
τē硂琌荡癸ぃそキ籔ㄤ弧琌"戈玻糵琩"ぃ弧琌"衡姐"ㄓ眔禟ち
癸搭近溃и-
粄程沧よ猭琌そ矗蔼そゑㄒ┬〆穦莱眏恨瞶のǖ琩栋いゴ阑ㄇ痷タ垒ノそ︘め筁15る┬竝秸琩舱栋い秸琩恏い3 000ョΘΜ500虫︗и-
谋眔璶┬〆穦┬竝眏恏恨瞶癸ㄇそ︘め垒ノそ拜肈莱Θ秆∕よ讽Ы莱赣璹躬纘┦現郸ま旧Τ︘め匡拒︑竚﹡┮チ羛某Τ闽﹚基莱эノ"竚Θセ"扳その﹡﹚基把计σ納ノ"ㄑ"よ猭琵︘め局Τ︑虫︗
┬〆穦莱ぃ浪癚┬現郸穝現郸ゲ斗臮のそキ玥ㄏ–めА︘玡現郸玂毁τぃ莱盽э︘兵ン管﹡チ莱Τ舦そ現郸闽セ﹡︘拜肈и-
粄現┎璶み矪瞶ㄆ龟瞷現┎筁矪瞶﹡の﹡︘拜肈常琌Θ
朝岸穨某璓勉瞶畊ネ┬〆穦る矗"蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌"吭高ゅンボ辨ノ現郸よ笷璓э跑カチ"そ沧ō褐"芠├┬〆穦羘嘿璹Τ闽現郸ヘ夹"蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌τヴ︙そ︘め璝ㄤ竒蕾笷酚臮セō︘惠璶キ獽莱氨ゎ钡そ戈璝-
匡拒痙そ虫︗﹡︘獽莱煤カ"
チ囊ぃ觅┬〆穦穝よ穝某ゼ┬戈方眔瞶だ皌碞硂Ω臛阶セ穦栋い癚阶穝現郸癸睲╊τ砆竚︘そ︘めぃそキぇ矪
せ現┎祇甶芖臟眏︽綞╊芖﹁加à糽稨の盿ホ讽現┎籔﹡チ艭Θ伐侥現┎璶笆ノň忌钉よㄏ﹡チ綞-
﹡┮挡狦﹡チ礚ー︙ぇ砆逼︘禜恏讽現┎腢畴﹡チ︘そ﹡チ琂礚斗ビ叫ョぃゲビ厨﹁加à糽加穨眔現┎┯空璝-
︑竚穨ㄉΤ程蔼窾じ禦加疭磃瑉禟干纕τ﹡チョ跌砆逼︘禜恏現┎竭纕兵ンぇ﹡チ礚笆ビ叫ョ礚斗ビ厨礚ǎ硂у﹡チ︘そ琌Τㄤ疭┦
讽現┎癸砆綞╊﹡チ弧琌蹦贺护も琿村弧﹡チ羘嘿︘そ矪ㄤい珹﹡チ煤ユ稧﹜ネ铆﹚の耕滴続吏挂﹡チョ礚斗Μの戈玻糵琩ㄏ局Τㄤ穨現┎戈-
潦竚穝╬穨璶腀種ョ膥尿そ﹡︘硂琌戳現┎村弧硂ㄇ﹡チ癸硂ㄇ﹡チ克┯空弧杠贺贺ē勉村弧筁祘いぃ耞︑現┎﹛いτぃぶ﹡チ克φ钮現┎﹛癸-
硂ㄇ┯空﹡チ膀獺現┎﹛弧杠程钡竚の干纕獶盽堡琌珇┦虫﹡チぃ惧眔璶―現┎玂靡τㄏ瞷┬〆穦㎝┬竝﹛ペ粄現┎纯瓃┯空
パ現┎焊は焊筁爵┾狾ㄏ硂у﹡チ癸┬竝计玡龟琁"碔め現郸"は莱疭眏疨﹡チ眏疨粄現┎讽篡腇-
τ瞷┬竝崩"戈玻糵琩現郸"の璶―﹡チ煤ユカ簔跌硂у﹡チ︘そ疭硂贺矪ㄆも猭癸﹡チ琌獶盽ぃそキ
ㄆ龟ヘ玡﹡︘そ﹡チㄤいぃぶ獶竒近絪腹τ莉皌そㄤいΤㄇ﹡チ現┎綞╊ㄤ﹡┮τ莉竚ョΤㄇ疭瞶パτ莉現┎絪皌┬珿セ粄┬竝эヴ︙籔めΤ闽現郸玡ゲ斗σ納Τ闽現郸そキの瞶┦ぃ莱盢浪癚礘翴虫虫﹡チ璽踞τЧ┛跌﹡チ讽︘の钡そ竚菌璉春の瞶パи眏秸琌"讽菌璉春㎝瞶パ"瞶畊ネ現┎琌ぃ┵炳菌
瞶畊ネセ粄┬竝瞷秈︽現郸浪癚筁祘俱砰σ納ョゼǎ芠の礚だ瞶沮ㄆ龟┬竝穝現郸琌┵炳┕菌ョ簔跌穝現郸┮盿ㄓぃそキのぃ瞶よ
膀瓃セ眏疨は癸┬竝龟琁"そ︘め戈玻糵琩現郸"璶―┬〆穦荷硉浪癚瞷︽"碔め現郸"疭癸綞╊﹡┮τ砆竚︘そ﹡チ╯澈琌そキㄏ現┎Νら叉"焊は焊"碿
瞶畊ネセ略朝勉や某
糂紌某璓勉瞶畊ネい┬竝窾煤ユ蛮め秈︽┾妓秸琩挡狦祇瞷禬筁Θ︘め局Τ╬穨ㄤいΤㄇ"禬碔め"局Τ禬筁丁穨ㄇ计そガぃぶカチ稰敢钵Τㄇそ﹡チ︓癸и弧硂ㄇ"禬碔め"龟ぃ莱赣膥尿︘そ
瞶畊ネи獺╆Τ硂贺稱猭ぃ琌ИбΤ窥τ琌谋眔碔Τ┪Τ琌ぃ莱赣膥尿ㄉノそ戈方临Τタ近︘そτ-
惠璶ゑ硂ㄇ
ぃ筁パセ翠崩︽そ現郸常倒カチ禜碞琌そ琌︘讽現┎璶﹡チ穐ㄓ碞穦跑眔螟琌硂讽┬〆穦某璶煤ユ蛮そ︘めビ厨戈玻﹡チ碞ぃ钡硂某
иフ璶﹡チビ厨戈玻琌穦ま癬阶瘤礛瞷钡紇臫琌碭窾め┪ぶ计︘め某纯矗硂翴琌﹡チ踞みκ窾そ﹡チ常穦紇臫
瞶畊ネ┬〆穦矗硂某ぇи纯‵バ跋籔チ囊某秨Ω吭高穦ㄢΩ籔チ囊霍秨Ωパи︑秨把祇ē﹡チぃ琌裤臘琌祇ē讽いΤㄇやそ戈方莱赣瞶だ皌-
粄Τ禦加莱赣綞そ
ぃ筁Τㄇ﹡チョㄓア穨瞯どそ超┪掉┮-
踞みㄏ瞷Τ窥禦加らぃ┋ア穨杠獽⊿Τì镑窥ㄑ加-
踞み瞷ǒ璚眔ㄓそ﹡︘戈ら穦赤ア璶近加-
穦谋眔眔ぃ纕ア
瞶畊ネ﹡チ硂よ紐納琌甧瞶秆钩翠竒蕾硂妓酱玨よ澈礛留旅硂妓腨﹡︘拜肈瞷炊硄﹡チご礛璶单┪ㄉΤそ﹡︘舦カチ辨ㄏ崩︽硂現郸狦-
綞そτ禦加ら狦-
Μ禴玥┬〆穦莱赣σ納-
薄鶪τ-
矗ㄑ纔Ω莉皌そ逼
瞶畊ネパそ琌カチ璽踞ㄓ络璹┮环耕カ癸Μㄓ弧そ絋-
矗ㄑ腊玃ㄏ-
ネキ眔蝴︓矗蔼癸俱穦τēョ腊覸秆砲絘拜肈狦Τì镑Τì镑禦加そ﹡チご礛﹡︘そず穦ㄏㄤ稱ㄉノ硂ㄇ戈方礚猭ㄉノ硂ㄇ戈方
癸そ﹡チㄓ弧ビ厨戈玻耕ネ┪谋眔ぃ钡ㄓ璶琌材Ωビ叫そ"筁闽"-
碞穦谋眔骋ッ秇礚兵ン膥尿﹡︘そ︓肚倒ぃ筁ㄤ龟ビ厨戈玻璶―ぃ╱ǎ︙┯ぱ某ョ矗ㄤよ猭穿┪ビ叫厩毙▅戈瑉禟ビ叫穦褐常Τ硂妓逼
癸竒︘そ狦-
辨膥尿ㄉノそ戈方и-
璶癸-
硂妓璶―и谋眔ぃ琌璙ㄨτ某い戈玻ビ厨场常琌そ秨祅癘戈и谋眔琌钡琌拜肈肂и獺現┎璶碞穜皍Τㄇ﹡チ谋眔-
娩絫Τ穦Τ"‵剐簎簎炳岿▆チ"瞷禜
礛τ┬竝瞷┯粄ビ厨戈玻逼ぇいΤ簗瑌﹡チ盢戈玻锣簿τ発磷煤ユカョΤ借好硂某⊿Τ戈玻⊿Τ瞇籠┮Τ戈玻兜ヘ琌Τ簗瑌ぃボ璶絃∕硂兜某и辨現┎σ納癚阶硂現郸ㄇ稱稱Τ⊿Τ快猭棒峨簗瑌㎡Τ杠獽荷秖暗
瞶畊ネ紉Μカ拜肈Τㄇ﹡チ粄そ疭琌êㄇ侣恏恨瞶㎝加借畉籔╬加Τぱ瞁ぇ┮-
粄現┎络璹カ基ゲ斗σ納硂ㄇ玥癸êㄇ﹡︘吏挂碿侣跋﹡チ碞Τろそす
羆珹τē瞶畊ネи觅Θ┬〆穦某玥辨Τ禦加﹡チ乃そ倒近﹡︘ぃ筁и辨現┎璹┬現郸过┏秆∕┬ㄑ莱ぃì硂拜肈狦﹡チ禦ぃ﹡璶砆︘そτ煤ユカ-
碞穦谋眔┬〆穦某琌糤Μτ礚種秆∕腨┬拜肈ョ翠"繷腹寄"拜肈
瞶畊ネи略朝勉や︙┯ぱ某タ
THE PRESIDENT resumed the Chair.
馋莱某璓勉畊ネиチ祇ēぃ筁и獺и璶ビ厨痲и瞷琌︘そチやッ笷某某ぃ觅Θ┬〆穦糵琩そ︘め戈玻и獶盽種独窥ㄤ军某┮弧杠┬〆穦êㄇ蔼﹛┪盙辨-
Τㄇ承種ぃ璶苝秈à稱ㄇΤ承種よ猭ぃ璶稱ㄇ硑Θだてτ笷ぃΘセ痲よ猭и璶拜拜-
ノЧ硂よ猭妓秆∕タ逼钉窾︘拜肈㎡ㄏрê窾场睲埃ㄓê窾︙矪竚㎡硂ㄇよ猭и谋眔ぃ琌蝴臔┮孔"瞶戈方だ皌"筁ㄓ┬〆穦⊿Τちち龟龟矪瞶瞶だ皌戈方拜肈瞷┮孔"蝴臔よ猭"讽チ某吭高そ﹡チ種ǎΜ场だ琌は癸羘-
ぃ谋眔┬〆穦琌蝴臔瞶だ皌はτ琌"砲蕾絘"
览某い現郸Ξ糵琩そ︘め┮Τ戈玻挡狦瞷煤ユ蛮︘めのゼㄓ┬〆穦秸綞璸购紇臫﹡チ场惠璶矗ユ筪灿礚框癩現鶪癘魁硂贺砆┬竝眏陆癬┮Τ產┏暗猭︑礛ま癬﹡チ縀疨к┶薄狐現┎Τゲ璶糵稸粄痷σ納硂贺耑チ惫琁琌讽
瘤礛场だ﹡チ局Τ戈玻硂ㄇ戈玻琌苦蝴ネㄣ盢Τ闽戈玻璸衡ずゼΤ蛮籃薄鶪τ瞷某戈玻瞓肂タ吭高ゅン┮弧龟ì镑潦禦籔瞷﹡︘虫︗璝﹡虫︗礛τ﹡ヘ玡基カ55%璝局Τ硂单计ヘ戈玻瞓ぃ单カ初砎╬加虫︗狦╬加虫︗ぃ局Τ現┎妓﹚-
琌才︘そ戈㎡硂琌Чぃ才盽瞶临Τ某ㄆョ弧瞷そ﹡チ局Τ穨琌Τ-
┪菌羭ㄒ弧-
玡﹡︘吏挂獶盽澜τ┬竝ビ叫秸綞祇谋琌⊿Τ辨┮-
对稽Τㄇ㎝ㄠ癬Τㄇ玥縒︑ㄑ糷も加ぃ筁┋笲現┎筁ㄓ蔼基現郸ㄏ加基礛丁どㄏ-
砋いㄇ窥硂龟琌-
龟悔惠璶蛤局Τ╬虫︗┮孔"そ碔め"Чぃ狦瞷┬〆穦┮﹚局Τ╬加虫︗絬玥硂兵絬龟琌獶盽璙ㄨ
チ紉高﹡チ種ǎ沽刚瞶だ皌戈方玥т隔矗は某
チぃ種璸衡┮Τ產玻そ琌贺┬戈方獽莱赣σ納┬基瞷そ渤┕バ芔琩綷そめのΤめ膟局Τ︘穨薄鶪┬竝莱赣ㄌ硚畖т街局Τ穨
и-
璹┬戈玻琌赣︘め┮局Τ╬加瞓絬璸衡σ納
瞷近そ肂ㄤい璸衡ㄌ沮琌–產畑摸莱Τ︘虫︗縩Τ闽縩妮加縩璝︘め璶潦禦╬︘虫︗加基玥珹縱縩瞷加龟ノ縩縱縩Θ︓Θぇ丁┮┬〆穦ゲ斗璸の硂
Τ闽產畑澜单惠璶﹡︘縩
酚臮癶ヰ┪礚穨惠璶綼虫︗ㄓΜ蝴ネ璸
膀埃璸衡–產畑局Τそ縩1.5﹡︘縩斗璸の翠╬加–キよμキА扳基產畑ㄒ┬〆穦某戈玻瞓149.6窾и-
璹"┬戈玻瞓"玥292.9窾κ窾じㄤ瞶┦㎝糴肞常ゑ某Τ┮矗蔼
チ粄и-
穦琂礛躬纘︑パ祇甶縩仓癩碔現郸碞ぃ莱赣筁腨璙祔Τ翴癩碔﹡チ常砆跌相相ㄤ龟瞷︽蛮現郸絬ョ獶盽璙ㄨゼ笷瞶だ皌戈方ヘ夹琌琵︘め璉璽肂竒蕾璽踞ら盽ネ借┮и-
眏疨粄莱蛮現郸盢瞷現郸эㄢ钡穿螟めの煤ユ︘め
癸某パ惫勉絋笷は癸ミ初┮チ琌や畊ネセ略朝勉
眎▆某璓勉畊ネ┬〆穦そガ"蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌"吭高ゅン沮┬〆穦弧琌璶絋玂翠戈方眔Τノ眖τ痷タΤ惠璶矗ㄑそ┬硂泞参玥獺⊿Τ穦は癸琌┮矗ㄓ呸胯の某穦ぃ穦痷タ笷┮孔"戈方Τノ"碞会Θ好拜и稱矗拜肈
硂現郸癸秆∕そㄑ莱祏龟
狦┬〆穦粄硄筁︘め煤ユ蛮┪"カ"碞穦ㄏêㄇ┮孔"碔め"穐瞒瞷Τ虫︗乃竚虫︗琵倒近カチ荷е加骸ì瞷穦惠―玥硂稱猭Τ拜肈
︑眖┬〆穦龟琁"蛮"現郸ㄓ龟琁┮眔狦ぃ陪帝ぃ硂ㄇ"蛮"︘め秖穐瞒そ虫︗︑眖龟琁"蛮"現郸ㄓ╬加基碩ど竒叉瞒カチ潦禦瞷現┎ノ"戈玻瞓禬筄﹚肂"よΑ璶︘め煤ユカ硂快猭ぃ筁琌传傣ぃ传媚︘め穦╬加基び禥τ圭腀煤ユカご礛痙そ﹡︘硂贺"禥ǐ︘め"現郸龟悔ノΤぶ龟Τ坝篹緇
龟悔現郸龟琁挡狦ぃ痷タ暗戈方瞶だ皌瞷現郸琌瞷︘そ顶糷︘めぇいだ皌眖俱穦àㄓ弧硂贺顶糷ぇずだ皌琌セぃそキ玥
璝璶そ︘め竚穨莱ノ躬纘よΑ
眖玡蛮瞷矗カ現郸琌"胓籃"よΑτ獶躬纘よΑㄏ︘め锣╬竚穨︘め﹡︘そ骸獽璶ビ厨禬筄肂碞璶煤蛮┪戈玻瞓禬筁110碞璶煤ユカ
硂暗猭Ч┛菠︘め︘そタ盽糤拜肈︘め產畑竒蕾のΜ硋˙э到碞-
Μ眔э到ぇ悔碞璶胓籃-
璶-
煤ユ禥翴┪"カ"硂暗猭ぃ穦笷璓"躬纘"ぇτ穦谋眔琌耑チ渤硑Θ穦だて璝┬〆穦ヘ夹琌痷璶琵そ﹡チ竚穨杠-
莱赣璶暗琌材糤基﹡ㄏ竒蕾兵ン眔э到そ︘め镑璽踞硂ㄇ﹡基の腀種綞┪材基扳そセЫ琍戳某臛阶いョ纯矗扳そ某琌︽よ猭┬〆穦σ納"ㄑ"現郸ㄏそ︘め荷е竚穨
璝璶р籔︘め竒蕾本恥︙ぃр硂呸胯莱ノ
璝狦┬〆穦現郸ヘ夹琌稱笷璓Τ┯踞現郸ê碞ぃ莱赣ノカㄓ綞τ莱Μ"仓秈Α"よ猭Μㄇ獽-
Μ翴沮籇"そ︘め局Τ╬︘穨拜肈"盡砫舱ず舱癚阶ぇい纯竒Τ舱矗筁硂兜某程パ︽現拜肈の疉のΘセ拜肈τ砆∕
稱τ狦璶沮︘めぃキΜ癬ㄓゑ耕そキ玥龟琁琌Τ拜肈┮狦弧璶煤ユ禥翴┪カㄏめ镑ユи-
谋眔莱赣莱ノ硂呸胯或ぃノ㎡碞琌龟悔螟︑蛾ㄤ弧穦籹硑砛︽現拜肈
程翴そ犁┬ヘ夹琌或㎡
現┎弧戈方ぃì璶瞶だ皌ヘ玡そㄑぃ莱―秖近ビ叫㎝羬︘め祏戳ず礚猭"加"拜肈膒挡現┎┮璹"环┬郸菠"い蹦"╬加纔"現郸ぃщ秖戈方硓筁そㄑ莱ㄓ秆∕穦︘惠―現┎羘羘弧Τ竒蕾ぃ莱︘そ︙ぃ㎡穝℡Τ80%︘そ螟笵穝℡碞羬竒蕾盰检穦羘更笵╆ぃそキ盾
瞷そㄑ莱秖ぃì︘秈そ璶龟琁﹚戈糵琩硂翴临瞶秆秈そ╰参獽ぃ莱р︘め眏崩竒蕾祔碔肝τ︘そΤ︙ぃТ┮孔"碔め"痷タ琌穦碔め盾螟笵璶ㄏそ"砲めて"琌現郸盾и辨現┎碙カチ︘惠―穝浪癚环┬現郸ヘ夹ㄏ穦い顶糷カチ礚阶Μぶ常Τ诀穦眔︘そ┬
讽礛安︘め秖ぇ匡拒竚穨и-
穦舧ョ莱赣倒ぉㄇ躬纘琵-
竚穨ぃ莱ノ胓籃よ猭┪р场だそ︘めぉ疧暗Θ穦ぃゲ璶だて
畊ネセ略朝勉
糕蚌┚某璓勉畊ネそ現郸セㄓぃ琌и眏兜иセㄓゴ衡щ布琌и钮チ囊某キ╆そキみ篈蝶阶ンㄆ硂ンㄆい-
玱Τぃ種ǎ琂笷癸琘ㄇㄆ薄猭だ笷現獀ㄢ┦┮иぃ眔ぃ碞硂ㄆ薄祇︑猭
畊ネи-
璶秆翠そ現郸琌獶盽獶盽現郸ぷㄤ琌きパ讽い瓣螟チ撮翠現┎芠俄蔓糳砞そ俱翠跋常Τそ砞臮のカチ惠璶眖τ旧璓穝℡翠そ矪ぉэ▆
璶眏秸и-
そ現郸筁琌翠現┎タ絋現郸斗候癘ぃ琌┬竝現郸讽礛┬竝琌現┎妮Τ闽诀篶ぇ┮и-
璶絋粄そ癸翠筁羉篴の思よ常Τㄤノ㎝疭︹︓翠﹡チノそ琵-
礚臮ぇ紐τよ眔﹚Θ碞㎝Θ罿
ヘ玡翠そ﹡チ簿チ︓緿瑆よ︗穦谋眔-
翠ㄓ︘﹡┮灿簿チ玱礛禦钩碔Τ癬ㄓ-
阶秸琌翠︘そ稧﹜ì靡ㄆ龟Τ翠そ﹡チ簿チ竒潦禦
翠現┎眏秸︑琌そキそ秨㎝硓蔼現┎眔チ囊やи绊獺チ囊現郸场だカチや眔琌会そキ会Τ秈み硂拜肈眖ㄓ瞶阶常弧璶そキ或硂Ω玱眏秸璶ぃそキ㎡硂瞶阶胔好琌籔计窾匡チΤ稬М闽玒㎡畊ネи⊿Τ弧"琌"龟Τ硂贺胔好
翠Τ场だそ﹡チ︘ㄓそ穦眔ΘΤΘ碞獽粄﹡┮彼ぃ眔綞彼ぃ眔ǐㄆ龟狦暗翠よ常狦┬竝⊿Τ穝現郸セ丁侣穦跑Θ侣荡癸ぃ穦
┮現┎龟琁"碔め現郸"㎝"癩碔糵琩"琌迭︙硂迭睦竡琵カチ〓﹡チ钡琌璶ㄓそ﹡チ笷︑粄吏挂莱躬纘-
钡ゼㄓ钡琵êㄇΤ惠璶┯-
┮莱眔
硂そ現郸ぃ琌兜沧ō疭舦и-
璶秆タΑ禦加基琌ッ讽礛翠戳Τ999ぃ琌ッ环
朝岸穨某矗のㄓΤ芠场だ祘ㄒ-
ㄓ琌局Τ┬临-
"加"单現郸琌眔┬竝瞏ち秆㎝蝶︳讽礛現┎現郸礚阶ヴ︙常琌︑讽礛現┎琌カチ現┎︑ㄤ現郸︽獽荷暗
и-
某莱瞏ち縩伐Τノ璶―現┎沽刚ㄏㄤいぃ琌び兵ㄒ跑眔и-
ぃ琌︑Τ惠璶τ躬纘笷現囊ヘ夹㎝ヘ
┮畊ネи玥や┬竝竒盽浪癚иぃや某弘
略朝勉
霉璓某璓勉畊ネチ囊ㄆㄤよ弧磷滦и穦栋い癚阶膀セ穦厩┮孔"戈そ﹡チ"拜肈и辨и-
祔┮量ㄢ珿ㄆㄤず甧镑ㄏ糕蚌┚某癸チ囊癸Τ闽現郸ミ初菠ぃ筁璶冈灿秆睦и獺璶碭揭
и產量"秨"珿ㄆ
玡朝ネ產穐穝カ马そ恏ê矪玡计临琌秏よ琌︽矪-
琌程︘材у﹡チê矪そ砞琁砲程碭る–ぱ璶˙︽だ牧程ぺτ潦禦ら盽ノ珇ョ伐ぃよ獽綟跋碭穝恏笵隔呼蹈そ砞琁ョ膥祇甶現┎綟遏╬︘ノ╃芥い–よ计じ基Θユê琌遏计玡临计じよ筁ㄢ朝ネ︗狟ねê遏祇甶坝┮扳芥加锣も禦芥い潦窾じ朝ネぃ窽稱或"秨"丁钡現┎寥计货じêㄇ產禦芥い寥窥╯澈琌現┎戈临琌戈現┎㎝產㎡
讽現┎よ眏秸戈そ﹡チよ玱籔┬〆穦だ琌街戈街┬〆穦弧︘め眀ヘ莲セ寥窥琌ㄓ︑坝め眀ヘ╯澈琌街ㄏノ硂ㄇ坝め狝叭㎡οを︑οō┮孔坝め眀ヘ籔︘め眀ヘ琌计笴栏穦竤砰闽玒琌が笆
砛ぃノи弧產常フそ璸购筁┕碭翠﹡贾穨絯㎝骋戈ど璶―┮盿ㄓ俱砰竒蕾祇甶狦琌︙璶и-
σ納┬現郸ぃ莱σ納﹡チぶ拜肈τ莱σ納俱砰穦の竒蕾が笆闽玒
材珿ㄆ琌芥墨狦珿ㄆ
眎琌︗Τ泊砪笵臮竒蕾の癸墨狦尺祘讽︗Τ窥ㄓ禦墨狦眎獽–じ芥倒τ讽︗絘ㄓ禦墨狦穦じ芥倒眎临穦癸絘弧"叫ぃ璶а癘и戈じ墨狦"
讽礛瓃眎珿ㄆ妮店篶ぃ筁硂琌膀セ竒蕾阀├狦и-
盢カ初だ澄и-
獽ぃカ初﹚ぃ基荷秖糤и-
柬硂タ琌瞷そ籔╬加カ初瞷禜パ︘そ璶才﹚兵ン芠そ籔╬加琌ㄢだ澄カ初и-
ぃ╬加ㄓσ納そ筃阶璶场だそ﹡チΜ┮孔"カ"
產ョσ納膀セ竒蕾阀├и-
笵そ虫︗计ヘ环ゑ╬加虫︗计ヘ虏虫璸衡狦そキА琌1,000じ╬加キА琌4,000じ讽и-
盢ㄢカ初τ陪瞷禜獽琌そ穦淮稬どτ╬加玥穦碩╯澈︙孔"カ"㎡
и辨瓃ㄢ珿ㄆ倒ぉ產ㄇ稱鲁膀и-
癸穦現郸だ猂㎝ミ初и-
琌ぃ钡ヴ︙碔め現郸のㄤ┑尿
セ略朝勉
產不某璓勉畊ネиや┬〆穦程┮祇吭高ゅン璉弘の膀セ玥そ戈方莱赣惠璶瞶だ皌
筁40翠竒蕾眔藕祇甶ぃぶ翠カチ咎︑ぃ阶琌﹡︘そ┪╬加竒蕾鶪常眔э到眃ぇ產计ぃぶ硂琌尺瞷禜琌竒蕾祇甶㎝痷︑竚穨糤瞷ㄓ弧ご礛ぃìΘ环环ぃΘタゑиョ觅吭高ゅン┮矗膀セ弘碞琌讽そ﹡チネ吏挂莉眔э到龟莱ユ临そ虫︗穝絪皌倒Τ惠璶產畑︘狦ぃ琌硂妓暗┪Τ诀杠癸硂ㄇ︘そ﹡チㄓ弧ラΤ沧ō玂毁瞷╬㎝そ㎝ㄑ加蹿兜禯稶ㄓ稶セ碞螟獺︘そ穦︑匡拒瞒秨戈﹡┮
沮吭高ゅン材彻某產畑ㄒ狦–る禬筁40,800じτ戈玻瞓禬筁149.6窾穦穝現郸紇臫狦硂妓兵ンㄓ弧畊ネゑ耕璣瓣緿瑆单ㄤ秈瓣產ㄓ弧硂痁暗蔼Μ┪蔼戈玻琌翠薄鶪ㄓ弧-
ご礛穦讽︑琌膀糷︓谋眔︑莱赣膥尿砆戈狦產畑竒局Τ瓃竒蕾兵ン瞷﹡基ㄓ弧и荡癸獺琌璽踞眔癬莱盢そ虫︗ユ临ョ程硂20祇甶狦倒ぉ-
荡癸玂毁êㄇ︘そぃ斗璶綞瞒杠-
ぃ谅临琌┣癸20ㄓ-
狦玶候ㄑ加杠瞷跑碔ぃ琌碔めê或虏虫狦倒ぉ沧ō玂毁-
Чぃ斗璶σ納硂ンㄆ杠-
さぱ┪谅琌20-
ョゼゲ谅ê加基膥尿慉ど杠琌斌诀穦
狦よ琌谋眔そ虫︗莱赣Τ瞶だ皌杠и碞璶戈玻糵琩琌程よ猭琌耑チ惫琁и獺Τ场だ某у蝶硂琌耑チ惫琁и碞谋眔ぃ琌硂妓弧瞷硂穦ㄓ弧產畑饼ビ叫そ戈獽璶Τ闽讽Ыビ厨ㄤ產畑の癩現戈弧琌钡﹡︘そ﹡チㄤ龟琌ㄉΤ纔玴そ戈狦眖穦俱砰ㄓ埃洛励ぇそ琌程磃褐狝叭畉ぃ钡狦ノㄇㄤ计ㄓ弧畉ぃ–產︘そ獽Τ產璶瑉-
畉ぃゑ硂琌ぃㄆ龟產畑︘そ琿丁ぇ┬〆穦璶―-
穝ビ厨籔竒蕾鶪Τ闽戈絋﹚-
莱膥尿钡材產戈и谋眔硂琌礚玴獶ョぃ莱砆跌兜耑チ惫琁
材狦硂ㄇそ﹡チ痷獶局Τ戈玻杠璝璶暗戈玻糵琩莱赣琌虏虫祘ゼゲ琌狡馒┪ぃ暗祘材-
ョΤ舦匡拒斌膥尿︘そ狦-
斌杠ョぃ斗璶竒筁┮孔惫琁Τ硂惫琁и粄ぃ穦癸ㄤ斗璶祙ㄓ戈ぃそキ
瞷そ近单"加"ビ叫禬筁14窾め-
讽い常琌筁锰ǎ▂ネパ稬砆﹡︘吏挂碿τ瘆侣╬︘虫︗ず临璶㎝ㄤ產畑︘虫︗癸厩穨のōみ祇甶常硑Θぃ▆紇臫獺Ыず荡场だㄆ常種硂ㄇ產畑常Τち"加"惠璶иョ種馋莱某┮弧硂14窾め癸ゑ綞ㄓ祏戳ㄓ弧ぃ穦Τ磃拨澈癸程Τ惠璶ㄓ弧и谋眔е翴よ猭-
磃ご礛琌硂現郸璹ミㄓ琌紇臫瞏环狦и-
ぃэ跑沧ō褐獽穦硑Θ︘そ穦Τ礚瞷禜璽踞┪璽踞戈穦稶ㄓ稶ぶ硂琌ぃ胺祇甶狦弧璶胓籃杠硂妓碞穦跑Θ胓籃翠程Τネ玻┪程对竤-
璽踞┪戈Τ礚そ﹡チ
珿иや┬〆穦蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌吭高ゅンず┮矗現郸ヘ夹ョや︙┯ぱ某タ辨┬〆穦荷е璹瞶現郸荷秖Θセ蔼痲よ猭躬纘吏挂э到そ﹡チユ临虫︗穝絪皌倒程Τち惠璶﹡チ
ぃ筁иョ稱虑诀穦窗玃┬〆穦荷秖е砍そ犁┬ㄏΤ惠璶產畑のΝ秆∕ㄤ﹡︘拜肈ㄆ龟辅Θその﹡虫︗Τ窾丁龟ア辨и赖ち㊣苸現┎荷秖糤挤ㄏそ璸购镑荷е硑褐Τ惠璶產畑
и略朝勉や︙┯ぱ某タ
地某璓勉畊ネи穦碞跋﹡チ種ǎ祇ē膀и匡跋㎝и恏竒喷癸跋﹡チ種ǎ琌讽剪眡
畊ネ埃蛮めぇ戈玻ビ厨ゴ阑癸禜碞琌そ︘め
瞷俱砰璸购紇臫そ︘め秸綞ず僚そ︘め戈現郸紇臫琌弧-
Τゐ斗ビ厨τㄏㄓ煤肂︘め秸綞穝加-
斗煤ユ穝加︘芠俄侣恏產畑ㄒ琌800じ︓900じ安-
秸綞穝恏琌2,400じ琌玡τ穝現郸盢穦︘めㄓㄉΤ烈ビ厨纔磃硂現郸盢紇臫︓秨﹍﹡チτ–Τ20000め紇臫﹡チ钡硂現郸紇臫摸﹡チ计ヘ环ゑ蛮︘めい禬筁近肂110戈玻︘めせ浪癚そ︘め戈舱∕﹚俱砰紇臫︘め莉竚ず蛮現郸紇臫讽Τ∕﹚種琌琵﹡チ秸綞Τ齿诀穦-
璶煤ユゑ┕ㄢの-
穐綞┕┕ョ璶掸讽禣ノ杆穝﹡
讽┬〆穦∕﹚┮σ納︓さョ莱⊿Τэ跑﹡チㄌ礛秸綞璶煤ゑ︘-
穐綞ㄌ礛璶禣ノ杆穝﹡硂ㄇ⊿Τ丁τэ跑и癘眔ミ猭Ы┬ㄆ叭〆穦發拜┬竝Τ︙璶э跑現郸┬竝琌絢ㄤ勉弧讽∕﹚Τ讽穦吏挂瞷э跑╯澈琌或э跑┬竝玥⊿Τ睲贰埃獶┬竝さぱ弧讽現郸琌岿粇のぃそキ琌筁纔︘め┮瞷璶タ⊿Τ硂僚﹡チ穝加妓璶戈玻ビ厨紇臫玥и稱ぃΤ或瞶沮璶瞷э跑硂現郸
闽硂吭高ゅンиョ碭恏秨吭高穦и稱┬竝穦笵吭高穦眔ㄓ挡狦琌璓羘﹡チ借高︙瑂綟ê畒加﹡チ加璸衡蛮τさぱ┬竝璶э跑硂現郸璶-
秨﹍紇臫-
璓膀︑ō跋﹡チ硂Ω硂Ω︘め戈玻ビ厨吭高㎝-
僚戳矗腨к某㎝璓は癸闽硂碭Ω吭高穦и璶は琈跋﹡チ種ǎ琌︓┪ぇガ紇臫ê竤﹡チ種ǎ
и略朝勉やッ笷某某
郭Θ某璓勉畊ネи琌稱チ笷碭翴ミ初秈˙弧и-
種ǎ
材и-
穦は癸︙┯ぱ某タのやッ笷某某ㄤ龟и-
琌稱倒ぉ┬〆穦睲贰癟碞琌辨甧砛ッ笷某某и-
ミ猭ЫいΤщ布诀穦硂盡砫舱弧睲贰癟碞琌и-
は癸硂盡砫舱矗糵琩戈玻も琿ㄓ笷ヘ夹狦硂も琿琌ぃ钡礚阶ㄤヘ夹琌ê或瞶稱弧眔或笆钮常琌ぃ钡┮孔"ends"Τ或"means"ぃи-
ぃ钡硂琌材翴┮祔∕и-
は癸︙┯ぱ某タㄤ龟и-
琌稱笷硂癟
材馋莱某チ笷и-
猭眖硂吭高ゅン菌眔產盡砫舱"そ︘め局Τ╬︘穨拜肈盡砫舱〆穦"ぃタ玥ēぃ抖セ膀セ盡砫舱稱矪瞶そ﹡チ局Τㄇ╬穨琌徤ㄇそ虫︗-
琂礛局Τ╬穨碞莱赣﹡︘ㄤ穨暗╯êㄇ癩碔-
︘そ碞琌ぃ虫ゎ碔癬ㄓ跑碔め临琌禬碔めㄤ龟チ╯и-
穦種硂琌Тよи-
種狦-
局Τㄇ╬穨τ硂ㄇ穨﹡︘縩琌ì镑產﹡︘杠硂薄鶪ぇ购兵耕糴肞絬и-
種т躬纘よ猭躬纘-
穐ǐи-
ぃ種硂よτ暗ㄇ闽糵琩そ︘め戈玻硂琌材翴種ǎ
材и-
よㄤ龟籔︑パ囊某Τㄇぃи-
琌玥は癸碔め現郸蛮現郸膀セи-
谋眔ぃ莱Τ蛮現郸硂現郸┬〆〆穦ぃ琌莉ㄇ戈方ㄤ龟琌ォミヘそ﹡チユㄇョぃ穦笷セ現郸ヘ璶êㄇ綞瞒膀セ笷ぃ硂ヘ夹
┮膀硂翴種ǎさぱ∕いи-
稱硓筁硂Ω诀穦盡砫舱辨-
狦璹某ぃ璶蹦某┮矗も琿硂も琿琌そ﹡チぃ钡τ翠硂矪挂琌ぃ続﹜
セ略朝勉
腑瓣辆某璓勉畊ネ︑眖きホ谄Ю翠┎砍そ秨﹍祇甶︓さΤ67窾產畑240窾﹡そ犁┬40筁瞷砛そ產畑竒蕾吏挂パ︘そ讽砲璚跑Θ眃︓嘿眔碔肝局Τ︑穨禥┬ó︓妓戈玻皐癸硂瞷禜┬〆穦祇蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌吭高ゅン某癸"碔め"秈︽戈玻㎝糵琩
チ羛觅璶蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌現郸琌笷そ戈方瞶そ皌ヘ会借好癸êㄇ垒ノそ︘めрそ跌"沧ō"局Τ肚肚甝""ㄏ⊿Τ惠璶盢虫︗讽纗ぇノぃ腀種ユ┬竝硂妓癸τ纐纐礚ー近そ翠﹡チ琌伐ぃそキ┬竝蹦惫琁琌翠贾ǎ┬現郸
畊ネ翠穦ΘぃИбΘら︘そ﹡チ︑纗籛竊稽┪т瞶稱產畑盿ㄓネ吏挂э到﹡贾穨琌и-
翠種腀ㄤ龟璶癸そ﹡チ蹦戈玻糵琩現郸龟︽琌拜肈戈玻﹚竡の琌瞶ゲ礛某ぃヰ程酵阶琌ぺ礟酚单垦ネㄣぃ琌ノщ戈璝戈玻璸衡琌そキ㎡┮糵琩侩猭ゲ斗眔よキ颗琂璶腨ョ璶艶砰瞷そキぃ耑チ
畊ネ穝碔め現郸ㄤ龟琌ぃ竒蕾玥ぃ璸Θセ痲現郸┬竝璶疭Θミいァ秸琩舱–︽現秨や笷350窾じτ–Μ虫︗и獺程ぃì500弧ぃ弧ぶぃぶ癸秆∕そ拜肈玱腊ぃ︽現秨や碞碔め计ヘ碞﹚硋搭ぶゼ︘骸︘めゼ獴瑚羀盢戈玻锣磷牟デ戈玻糵琩夹非环ㄓ弧惫琁痲硋搭ぶ挡狦琌辅眔耑チ端癩狦
畊ネチ羛琌觅Θ璶瞶ㄏノそ戈方祏戳ㄓ弧莱躬纘よΑそ︘め綞そㄒ玂痙"碔め"材纔匡拒舦の糤﹡肂环ㄓ弧┬〆穦琌莱縩伐╯Τ某矗の"ㄑ"ユ璝р虫︗癳ぉめの盢そ虫︗扳ぉめ篶稱τぃ琌蹦ㄇ耑チ惫琁琂笷ぃそキだ皌戈方箇戳ヘは稴癬ぃゲ璶カチ羘
セ略朝勉
法此某璓勉畊ネㄤ龟翠そ┬現郸Τよ眔翠カチや㎝︑花程璶琌現┎耕稧﹜и-
钡﹡硂ㄇそ恏τ-
戳﹡êㄇそ恏ぶ綞眕┮ら獽ミゑ耕铆﹚跋弘硂翴眖и-
Ω匡羭щ布щ布瞯琌そ恏穦ゑ耕蔼ゑàび芖╬加跋耕蔼璶琌-
ミ跋弘τ硂跋弘ぇ┮眔ミ琌场だ﹡チ膀セ硂ㄇよネΘ︓ê跋挡盉ぃ﹚膀硂贺铆﹚跋闽玒ㄇ盉闽玒┮硂贺跋弘パτミ癬ㄓτ硂ㄇㄆ薄琌現┎讽ゼ箇璸眔硂琌穦現郸ゑ耕タ捌ノ
材ノ碞琌-
﹡︘そ恏计ゑ耕瘤礛场だ–Μぃ產畑Τㄢ︓Θ常ユぇ逞緇ぃぶ窥繦秸ノ戈硂贺窥カチΤ诀穦э到-
ネ︓翠Τ钡︘そ恏讽竒蕾癐癶瞷ず场禣-
Τ秸ノ戈τ眔蝴┮硂癸ず场竒蕾ョΤ矪
иョ稱矗翴碞琌-
Μ瘤礛ぃ蔼ゑ耕ユ㎝祙ぇ临Τ緇窥┮ゐ惠–Ω常硓筁穨︽笆沟糤戈ョτ翠絵薄鶪祡波┪骋戈闽玒パτミ┮硂ㄇ薄鶪弧琌厩眖ㄆ╯讽稱禜ぃ
畊ネи┮矗翴骋戈闽玒ネ玻跋铆﹚﹡チэ到ネ琌現┎▆郸埃獶現┎弧倒и-
钮琌現┎瞷秖戈拜肈┪┬〆穦穦瞷秖í玥琂礛и-
穦莱杠龟礚斗盢硂兜膀セ現郸秸ㄓ
畊ネê或某矗種ǎ常⊿Τタ弧ê贺┬現郸癸穦ノи稱癘魁いタ弧瞷翠そ┬現郸ㄆ龟癸穦铆﹚癸ネ玻蝴癸ず场禣綿㏕琌Τノぃ莱ㄇぶㄆ薄﹛チぇ丁玻ネ硂或ベョ礚斗パ現┎笆ノê或暗吭高
闽戈玻糵琩某祇ēいΤ腨簗
材セ琌眔ぃ纕ア笆ノê或窥τ琌Μê或ぶそ虫︗現┎籔﹡チぇ丁玻ネê或ベ︙璶硂妓暗㎡
材┬竝弧璶そチ毙▅毙▅そ﹡チそぃ琌ッ环局Τ戈玻現┎崩︽そチ毙▅琌惠璶骋畍笆渤㎡現┎筿跌冀ㄇ祏祇ㄇ虫眎穌そ秨吭高碞竒ì镑︙璶窾﹡チビ厨戈玻ま璓ê或и痷篘ぃ繷福狦現┎ぃ琌稱Μそチ毙▅ぃ斗ノ硂贺よ猭╯澈璶暗或㎡
临Τ翴祔┬氮﹚璶倒иユ程┬竝竝毒硄ネボ非称Τ璸购扳そ琂礛瞷竒Τ璸购扳そ┪ゴ衡芥êㄇそ︙临璶穌ê戈玻糵琩㎡狦┬竝竒ゴ衡キ基┪Θセ扳そぉ﹡チê瞷︙璶穌戈玻糵琩㎡オも穌戈玻糵琩も稱芥そ讽Ы玡⊿Τ璸购扳そиぃ穦篕安讽Ы瞷ゴ衡扳そ临璶秈︽戈玻糵琩杠ぃ叫êㄇГ快そ﹛灿み稱稱硂ㄢ兜現郸穦︑ベ㎡よ璶糵琩﹡チ戈玻よ璶キ基盢虫︗芥倒﹡チ硂ㄢ現郸癦ぃがベ盾
畊ネи膀セ辨┬繰み钮и-
Ыず種ǎさΩ∕挡狦さミ猭Ыパ匡羭玻ネ膀セは琈カチ種ǎ讽礛讽Ы穦暗ㄇチ種秸琩︘╬加穦谋眔Τ窥そ﹡チ︙ぃ穐ǐ㎡硂虏虫阀├璉-
⊿Τ︙骋畍笆渤ㄓ暗ê或挡狦鶪癸穦Τê或璽ノ︙璶硂妓暗㎡и疭眏秸狦現┎σ納璶キ基扳そ杠︙临穌ê或戈玻糵琩㎡狦痷璶崩︽硂穝現郸琌穦盢Τ現郸Ч崩陆㎡
羆挡τēи辨┬莱镑秆睦琂礛よΤ璸购扳そ(и獺獶﹚琌钮チ種∕﹚)︙籔戈玻糵琩硈砮癬ㄓ㎡и辨ぃ璶ア翠竒秈筁寸戳チみゑ耕疊笆竒蕾惠―ゑ耕絯產癸玡春獺みぃぃ璶ㄇぶ狥﹁τ穕アび
畊ネи略朝勉やッ笷某某
︙玊く某璓勉畊ネさぱチ囊Τ某纯祇ē┮и荷秖穦虏祏のぃ狡
ミ阶よㄓ弧и-
琌は癸硂現郸そ﹡チ戈玻糵琩現郸и-
借好ㄤそキ┦ミ阶睲捶и稱眏秸Θセ痲拜肈弧硂拜肈и-
讽礛既安﹚и-
瞷ぃ借好硂現郸そキ籔и-
癚阶Θセ痲﹚璶Τㄣ砰ヘ夹琌璶笷或狥﹁タ琌┬竝┮弧璶Μㄇそ虫︗┪糤ㄇΜиぃ镑钡毙▅そ渤ぷㄤ琌-
璶毙▅癟ず甧タ琌程ㄣ阶よタ琌и-
璶﹚よョぃ莉ミ猭Ы钡よ
狦弧Θセ痲弧弧Θセ︓さ┬竝倒и-
计陪ボ龟︽硂碔め現郸蛮現郸-
︽現禣琌750窾じ狦龟︽硂穝現郸-
絪ぃ惠璶硂或┮璶糵琩癸禜ぃ琌ê或350窾じτ沮┮硓臩计碔めΤ窾τㄤいΤ42%局Τ穨14 000硂14 000︘め斗璶盢-
穨基ビ厨и-
安砞硂14 000︘めいぃ琌–常┬竝借好传ēぇ︘め┮ビ厨戈玻常莉┬竝钡琌娩絫借好τ璶︳и︳璸15%ㄒ
Somebody spoke loudly in the public gallery
PRESIDENT: Order in the gallery! Order in the gallery! ( The President's order was disregarded) Have that gentleman removed! Security guard, remove him!
︙玊く某畊ネ传ēぇ15%璸衡硂14 000︘めぇいΤ2 100︘め穨基璶︳璶笆ノぶ窥㎡и⊿Τ计陪ボ┬竝︳–︘め┮惠禣ノи镑ノ计碞琌ヘ玡┬竝Τ闽﹡ビ叫干基┮紉Μ︳基禣ヘ玡┬竝紉Μ5,300じ埃獶┬竝弧硂计琌砫瞷Μ计ぃそキ玥獽ぃ莱借好硂计硂琌ヘ玡Μ﹡ビ叫干基禣ノ狦2 100め5,300じ琌1,113窾じ狦20%璸衡璶秈︽︳Τ2 800め獽璶笆ノ1,484窾じ︗某硂临ゼ璸衡狦硂ぃ琌穨τ琌ㄇ╬ネ種硂ㄇネ種Τ穨┪⊿Τ穨Τㄤ竟プネ癩竟ㄣ琌惠璶︳基ョ璶︳璸硂ネ種坝臕┕Μ单璶竨叫盡穨穦璸畍沮и秆癸丁そ虏虫︳基盡穨禣ノぃ穦2,000じ︗某р┮Τ癬璶ぶ︽現禣ノ狦硂ㄇ娩絫ㄒ璶禗璶锣ざ禗〆穦┪糵掉矪硂ㄇ盡穨璶畑êㄇ禣ノ︙璸衡㎡
狦痷タ络﹚ㄇ琌禬碔め璶-
煤カ硂カ︙︳衡㎡и┮┬竝⊿Τ癸–虫︗縒ミ畉昏︳琘跋恏Τ俱砰莱揭畉昏︳基狦璶–め璸衡カㄏ既ぃ酵霉璓某┮弧澄瞒カ初拜肈璝硂虫︗カ初ぶ㎡ぃ镑ぃσ納硂虫︗琌或︗竚蔼糷或よ㎡硂常瞣疉盡穨︳基拜肈盢ㄓ俱︽現禣ノ琌350窾じ㎡иΤ瞶パ獺иョ辨┬祔倒и氮滦и獺瞷龟︳璸琌ぃ穦2,000窾じ┮安讽Ы粄и矗硂︳璸膀娄琌Τ拜肈杠и辨讽Ы矗计沮ㄓ
и虏虫莱︙┯ぱ某弧-
︑パ囊辨矗蔼︓220戈玻羆讽礛矗蔼呼獽Μ灿︳基禣穦ぶ翴癸禜ぶτ︽現禣穦ぶ翴Μ虫︗ョ常獺穦ぶ┮ぃぃ弧ぶ窥Μぶ虫︗硂獽琌Θセ痲拜肈︓さи-
⊿Τ瞷Θ︳璸狦Μ碭κ虫︗琌眔硂或窥㎡產不某弧狦и-
ぃ蹦ノ硂現郸琌"Τ礚"Τ穐⊿Τ穐ㄓㄤ龟琌荡癸岿粇и┮计ㄤ龟–潦禦﹡τ︑笆ユそ虫︗︘めΤ6 000︓10 000ぃ璸衡Τ︑潦禦╬加綞
ㄤ龟и-
い瓣Τ芠├獽琌辨镑竚穨﹡︘︑竚虫︗镑辅腑耴и獺硂琌程璶ㄏ圭腀綼︑ǒ对禦加τ穐瞒そ虫︗盢ウユㄓ┮и-
荡癸觅Θノ躬纘よ猭τぃ琌ノ眏︓盿Τ胓籃┦よ猭┮иやッ笷某某谅谅畊ネ
PRESIDENT: I now invite Mr LEE Wing-tat to speak for the second time, but this time on the amendment to his motion. He has five minutes to speak on the amendment. Mr LEE, do you wish to speak?
ッ笷某璓勉畊ネи穦虏祏Τㄆさぱ裤臘祇ē筁祘いョ阶の︙┯ぱ某タ
и︑弧翴材吭高ゅンノ獶盽夹肈嘿"そ戈方瞶だ皌"厩(и⊿Τ或弄筁厩畊ネ┪ㄤㄆ纯弄)硂夹肈セōΤ︑蛾ㄤ弧腹笵硂ゅン嘿籔"埂逗ぃ惠""眔穢ぃ惠︾狝"⊿Τ或だ讽拜︑蛾ㄤ弧腹螟穦は癸┬祔祇ēи瞦穦弧程┬〆穦硂舱秸琩祇瞷カチ獶盽觅Θ硂玥и弧и-
痷瞶玥琌穦常觅Θㄒ狦ネэ到Τㄇ笿螟窥倒盾狦ネ铆﹚Τㄇ笿┪╝Θ╝チ穦ぃ穦ㄇ窥倒-
и獺產常穦や︓弧荐拜肈狦┬┪現┎┪癩現秸琩高拜碔Τ琌莱赣璶煤祙蹿и︳璸挡狦琌Θ常穦や硂弧杠セō⊿Τ疭ず甧琌︽ぇ常獺痷瞶┮и谋眔狦硂妓暗杠ノ硂腹┪硂㏑肈吭高某莉眔κだぇや琌ぃ螟程璶琌ㄤず甧琌は琈ㄣ砰薄鶪
畊ネㄤΩ闽┮孔局Τ戈玻穨セō琌碔Τ拜肈硂翴碔阶┦︙┯ぱ某タ琌弧贺非玥秖琘戈玻キ琌临眔膥尿戈ㄤ龟瞷┮某よ猭琌ヴ︙キ常ぃ穦莉眔カチЧや芠夹非硂ㄇ┮孔局Τ戈玻㎝穨產畑Τぃ鶪иΩ筿钡钮钮渤筿杠竊ヘいΤそ叭ゴ筿杠倒и
PRESIDENT: Mr LEE Wing-tat, please resume your seat. May I say a few words. Please resume your seat first. Although I tend to give Members certain latitude in making the second speech, I certainly hope that every single point that you make would be on the amendment. Of course you can seek to rebut arguments for the amendment to your motion, and to argue why your motion is preferrable, but I hope that the points you make would be on the amendment; why the amendment should not be accepted.
ッ笷某畊ネи临琌栋い酵硂拜肈︙┯ぱ某ㄤ祇ēい弧闽矗戈玻キиタ琌碞硂翴祇ē吭高ゅン矗產畑┪︙┯ぱ某┮弧礚阶150窾じ┪300窾じㄓ150窾じ癸產畑ㄓ弧琌碔Τ┪琌產畑Τ300窾じ琌碔Τ碔肝и弧筿竊ヘ钡そ叭筿杠弧ひ包ㄢ常琌暗そ叭狦癶ヰΤ80窾じ︓100窾じ硂掸窥20ず眔蝴ネ狦硂產畑ずΤㄢ拨穨寥窥笷璶糵琩戈玻キ
畊ネㄤ闽硂現郸琌秆∕近拜肈耑チよ单ㄆ弧筁иぃ览狡谅谅畊ネ
PRESIDENT: There is one more Member who had raised his hand after Mr LEE Wing-tat has spoken. Since Mr LEE Wing-tat has not made his final reply, I will allow Mr CHAN Wing-chan to speak first.
朝篴篱某璓勉畊ネиぃ琌璶祇ēи琌璶ビ厨痲иヘ玡ご礛﹡︘そ
PRESIDENT: I rule that being a tenant in a public housing estate is not a pecuniary interest that ought to be declared because it is something which is shared with members of the community in general.
┬璓勉畊ネ钮筁︗某種ǎи稱┦莱
現郸ヘ夹
翠現┎┬現郸ㄤい兜ヘ夹琌璶絋玂そ┬虫︗穦絪皌倒程Τ惠璶┬〆穦烈舱祇蝴臔そ戈方瞶だ皌吭高ゅン膀セ弘タ籔現┎現郸ヘ夹
そ渤は莱
︑眖吭高ゅン祇穦纯瞏㎝荐疨癚阶俱砰τē-
琌やゅン膀セ玥㎝弘硂讽礛琌躬籖カチ讽礛ョΤ矗ㄇ灿竊種ǎи禗︗某舱穦冈灿σ納カチ㎝セЫ某┮矗兜種ǎ
穦戈方だ皌
さぱッ笷某某は癸┬〆穦璶―︘めビ厨戈玻ㄤ龟癹磷そ戈方琌莱赣酚惠璶τだ皌硂膀セ拜肈瘤礛Τㄇ某ョ刚瓜盢硂癚阶糷Ω矗ど︓俱砰穦戈方瞶だ皌и觅Θ︙┯ぱ某弧猭翠ぶ砍︘戈方ㄤ龟琌Τ硂セ琌ぃㄆ龟現┎Τ砫ヴΤ惠璶產畑矗ㄑそ戈ョΤ砫ヴ絋玂そ戈方琌龟悔惠璶τだ皌現┎粄そ琌穦局Τ戈方荡癸琌ぃ莱赣跑Θそ﹡チ╬Τ癩玻礚兵ン戳┪ッ琵-
ㄏノ硂兜膀セ玥ゲ斗絋ミョ琌約カチ粄
琂礛そ戈方莱赣跌惠璶ㄓだ皌硂妓и-
ゲ斗ま甅诀蝶︳ㄇ產畑ご礛惠璶钡そ戈ビ厨┮螟癸そ﹡チτēビ厨戈玻阀├琌ゑ耕ネτ玻ネみ瞶к┶讽礛硂ョ瞶秆龟悔ヘ玡ビ叫侯穦玂毁絯┪猭穿Жみ顶糷┬︓盡厩ネ戈璸购常惠璶ビ厨戈玻┮ㄤ龟ビ厨戈玻セō獶或穝愤は癸ビ厨戈玻笆诀┤琌蝴臔琂眔痲硂よ猭絋龟禣秆
朝胞糭某の馋莱某矗そ︘め局Τ穨琌覸絯澜朝某ョ嘿癶ヰ惠璶Μ筁龟悔穝現郸狦崩︽癸硂ㄇ礚紇臫狦-
禦加︑ノ產畑Θ琌莱赣パそめ虑埃癶ヰ狦礚Μョ常ぃ穦硂穝現郸紇臫
︓朝岸穨某矗のΜ竭纕睲╊竚单菌拜肈瘤礛吭高ゅンセōユиョ辨Ωビ礚阶眖猭ㄒ┪現┎現郸ㄓΜ竭纕の睲╊竚荡癸琌ㄢㄆ沮﹛Μ兵ㄒ現┎紉Μ╬穨﹚璶ì肂竭纕現┎現郸埃籔穝紉Μ纯竒祇ヒㄢ贺传舦痲ぇ常琌瞷竭纕現┎砮現郸琌璶絋玂現┎睲╊︽笆紇臫﹡チぃ穦礚產耴┮睲╊紇臫﹡チぃ阶穨┪璶-
才讽加戈常莉眔絪皌そ虫︗ぃ才戈獽穦砆逼︘羬┬跋Μ竭纕の加戈ぃ睼酵
地某ョ矗の穝現郸癸恏︘め紇臫ㄆ龟吭高ゅン材4.4︓4.7琿竒Τ冈灿ユи-
ミ猭Ы┬ㄆ叭〆穦穦某ョ秆睦硂иぃ稱Ω狡
︓法此某┮矗の某扳そ虫︗倒そ︘め璸购и-
盢穦环┬郸菠浪癚いみσ納и谋眔硂某の吭高ゅン某⊿Τベㄢ常琌躬纘そ﹡チ潦禦﹡┪︑竚﹡┮硂и稱Ωそ疉の胑戈方瘤礛現┎ご礛∕﹚ゼㄓせ砍141 000そ虫︗砍そヘ琌璶酚臮痷タΤ惠璶產畑τぃ琌腊竒蕾耕碔肝產畑ㄓ骸ì-
︑惠―иち戳辨┮Τそ﹡チ︘そ琿丁は琌Τì镑竒蕾酚臮-
︘惠璶狦氮琌﹚杠-
琌莱赣匡拒禦﹡┪╬加ユ临そ虫︗獽┬〆穦穝絪皌倒Τ惠璶產畑﹡︘
Θセ痲
Τㄇ┪某借好現郸セōΘセ痲┪︽現禣ノ穦讽蔼┪Μ虫︗玱Τ硂よ某ㄤ龟礚斗筁納沮筁┕竒喷斗煤ユ肂︘め潦禦﹡種饼环ゑそ﹡チ蔼筁ㄢΘ潦禦﹡虫︗肂︘め笷2 000и獺某い穝現郸玃ㄏ竒蕾耕碔肝そ﹡チ潦禦﹡ョ穦┬〆穦–Μ计そ虫︗ぃ琌碭κ虫︗
︓︽現禣ノよ┬竝︳璸–300窾じ┬竝ゴ衡盢瞷Τи狡瞷Τ"そ戈舱"の"そ垒ノ薄鶪疭秸琩舱"ㄖ獽艶秸皌もτ礚斗糤戮︗獽莱穝Θセ痲讽蔼狦ゑ耕瞷縱Θセㄓ璸衡300窾じ砍そ虫︗
挡粂
畊ネッ笷某┮矗某琌は癸吭高ゅンず渤某ㄤい翴琌は癸璶―场だそ﹡チビ厨戈玻ㄤ龟ゅンず﹟Τ璶矗某┬〆穦舱ョ辨钮よ種ǎ︓︙┯ぱ某┮矗タи粄耕キ颗τそ琌そΤ癩碔ぃ琌╬癩玻莱赣惠璶だ皌︓︙镑ㄣ砰璹よの灿竊硂琌舱ヘ夹и赖叫︗某や︙┯ぱ某┮矗タτぃ璶やッ笷某某
谅谅畊ネ
Question on the amendment put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Noes" had it.
Mr Edward HO claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members the question to be voted on is that the amendment moved by Mr Edward HO be made to Mr LEE Wing-tat's motion. Would Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Before I declare the result, are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Miss Emily LAU, Mr Eric LI, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Miss Christine LOH, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr Ambrose LAU and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted for the amendment.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE and Mrs Elizabeth WONG voted against the amendment.
Miss Margaret NG abstained.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 13 votes in favour of the amendment and 31 votes against it. He therefore declared that the amendment was negatived.
PRESIDENT: Mr LEE Wing-tat, you are now entitled to a final reply and you have four minutes 25 seconds out of your original 15 minutes. Mr LEE, do you wish to speak?
ッ笷某璓勉畊ネи谅︗ㄆやи某и稱虏祏莱ㄢ翴
材翴琌闽独琍地ネ弧и某惫勉琌は癸糵琩筁祘ㄤ龟и稱琌粇穦и某琌は癸Τ闽某辨ぃ璶"癉"弧и琌は癸糵琩硂筁祘
材法此某弧種ǎ琌и-
チ囊ミ初弘盆種讽┬〆穦籔┬浪癚环┬郸菠の浪癚︙êㄇネ莉э到︘め潦禦︑︘┮崩硂現郸琌Τ惠璶㎡ㄤ龟硂現郸某扳そ琌玡矗и-
谋眔狦硂現郸龟琁礚斗矗ㄤぃゲ璶現郸┮и-
谋眔瞷暗猭琌セソ竚
畊ネи笵钡Τ璶某璶癚阶┮иぃ弧ê或谅谅畊ネ
Question on the original motion put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Ayes" had it.
Mr Edward HO and Mr TSANG Kin-shing claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall now proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I would like to remind Members that they are now called upon to vote on the question that the motion moved by Mr LEE Wing-tat be approved. Would Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and then proceed to vote by choosing one of the buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr Albert HO, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing, Dr John TSE and Mrs Elizabeth WONG voted for the motion.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Miss Emily LAU, Mr Eric LI, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Miss Christine LOH, Mr CHOY Kan-pui and Mr Ambrose LAU voted against the motion.
Mr Paul CHENG, Miss Margaret NG and Mr YUM Sin-ling abstained.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 31 votes in favour of the motion and 11 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was carried.
MEMBER'S BILLS
First Reading of Bill
PUBLIC BUS SERVICE (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
Bill read the First time and ordered to be set down for Second Reading pursuant to Standing Order 41(3).
Second Reading of Bills
PUBLIC BUS SERVICE (AMENDMENT) BILL 1996
MR LAU CHIN-SHEK to move the Second Reading of: "A Bill to amend the Public Bus Service Ordinance."
糂ホ某璓勉畊ネセ笆某弄1996そぺ狝叭(璹)兵ㄒ
硂兵ヘ琌璶璹そぺ狝叭兵ㄒэ跑ヘ玡盡ぺそ基斗︽現Ы硄筁τミ猭Ы礚舦筁拜暗猭ら︽現Ыуぺ基ぇ緇斗妮猭ㄒよΑ盢基ず甧矗ユミ猭Ы凝τミ猭ЫΤ惠璶虑硄筁∕某癸︽現Ы∕﹚璹
虏虫ㄓ弧兵ㄒヘ琌辨ミ诀ㄏ瞷チ匡ミ猭Ы镑糵某紇臫チネぺ基某兵ㄒ硄筁龟琁ぃボぺ基﹚穦綝ゎ琌ミ猭Ы糵ぺ基τ–Ω︽現Ы┮∕﹚狦ミ猭Ы⊿Τ矗钵某玥ぃ穦紇臫Τ闽ぺそ基龟琁
Τ粄兵ㄒ某琌"㏑┦э笆"︓穦腨瘆胊︽現旧笲琌и璶睲贰兵ㄒ某そユ硄诀篶基硄筁诀ぃ琌或穝诀瞷畉ぃ场局Τ盡舦╬犁そユ硄诀篶基Аミ猭Ы菏恨沮瞷︽猭ㄒ┮Τ盡寸近そ筿óその基А斗莉︽現Ы硄筁妮猭ㄒよΑ矗ユミ猭Ы糵某珿ぺそ基ヘ玡斗︽現Ы硄筁碞镑龟琁龟妮ぃ瞶ㄒ妓琌局Τ盡舦╬犁そユ硄诀篶⊿Τ瞶パぺそ基祘籔ㄤ诀篶ぃ鶪ぺ更秖琌ヘ玡┮Τユ硄ㄣい程蔼チネàㄤ基莱ミ猭Ы┮菏诡
瞷ぺ基祘パそぺ狝叭兵ㄒ┮砏﹚τΤ闽猭ㄒ琌き﹚きぇ玡玥パㄢ兵ぃ猭ㄒだ恨ぺ㎝いぺ竒犁τ讽猭ㄒ璶―ぺ基惠莉眔︽現Ы硄筁妮猭ㄒよΑ矗ユミ猭Ы糵某ョ琌и瞷某︙き穝猭ㄒ盢ミ猭Ы糵某ぺ基舦玠㎡現┎讽矗ユ倒ミ猭Ы戈Ч⊿Τユ︓讽現┎﹛ミ猭Ы弄臛阶Τ闽兵ㄒボぺ基硄筁诀礚э跑и獺現┎Τゲ璶氮硂拜肈
筁20ぺそ基Чぃミ猭Ы菏恨ぺそ琌基︓林阶は癸ご侣矗环禬硄等碩Ч簔跌チネぺそ瞷–基某矗А穦吭高ミ猭Ыユ硄ㄆ叭〆穦竒ユ硄吭高〆穦糵ユ︽現Ы硄筁ヘ玡诀竒獶盽瞶稱琌筁计竒喷陪ボ┮孔吭高ミ猭Ы琌よミ猭Ы某"糛糛"τぺその現┎玥"讽φ娩"さいぺのぺ基某竒ユ硄ㄆ叭〆穦綝セЫㄆは癸現┎ご侣やㄢぺ碩基螟フ琌ユ硄吭高〆穦硄筁いぺ碩﹡礛ゑいぺ︑璶―碩蔼瞶パ碞琌璶發筐基硄等ど碩刚拜瞷ぺ基诀︙镑そ渤のセЫㄆ獺狝㎡
и癑み辨セЫㄆや硂兵兵ㄒ
畊ネセ略朝勉笆某兵ㄒ弄谅谅畊ネ
Question on the motion on the Second Reading of the Bill proposed.
Debate on the motion adjourned and Bill referred to the House Committee pursuant to Standing Order 42(3A).
IMMIGRATION (AMENDMENT) BILL 1995
Resumption of debate on Second Reading which was moved on 10 January 1996
Question on the Second Reading proposed.
霉璓某璓勉畊ネセ翠块骋現郸硂计丁礚阶某穦ず常ま癬某るら妓︙庇古某竡矗癸チ挂兵ㄒ璹ミ猭Ы秈︽弄㎝弄τ赣き確弄臛阶綝セЫ∕讽チ囊癸翠カチ┯空ㄓミ猭Ы穦戳穦Ω矗摸兵ㄒ叭―ㄏミ猭ЫΤ舦癸块骋現郸秈︽菏恨き匡羭戳丁チ囊ビ硂兜┯空┮穝ミ猭Ы穦戳秨﹍チ囊ミ矗沧ゎ骋現郸絋玂ㄌ酚ミ猭Ы粄砏ㄒ㎝皌肂砛秈┪氨痙翠沟眖ㄆ產叭ㄣΤ疭мの瓣悔㎝ユ诀篶玥妮ㄒ
и璶秆睦︙惠璶猭ㄒΑ菏恨块骋現郸ㄤ璉ミ猭弘㎡翠現┎︑耎块骋璸购玃ㄏ块骋Θセ翠琂﹚环現郸硂兜現郸癸穦竒蕾㎝チネ常Τ紇臫瞷块骋現郸皌肂糵у㎝菏恨Чミ猭Ы㎝猭ㄒ菏诡よ︽現场糵у皌肂硓旧璓ㄇ筁逞︽穨瞷块骋薄鶪τよ沟㎝把籔┷竨骋いざ竒盽ノ菏恨簗瑌玠骋腨ゴ阑セ骋碞穨诀穦
挂砏玥惠璶某穦菏诡硂暗猭ㄤ龟琌ㄤ瓣產竒盽蹦ノ現郸逼チ囊览硂兵碞把σ璣瓣簿チ猭ㄒ砏﹚赣猭ㄒ砏﹚ず現︒璹Τ闽挂砏玥斗ユ某皘硄筁礛ネさΩ︙庇古某┮矗弘才璣瓣瞷砮暗猭鶪瞷癸チ挂兵ㄒ┮璹Ч才瞷︽現ミ猭闽玒逼ぃミ猭旧︽現︽現场ㄌ礛蝴矗現郸旧舦硂兵璹い璹ヴ︙块骋皌肂㎝菏恨灿玥斗パ毙▅参膚妮猭ㄒΑユミ猭Ы現郸旧舦ご礛パ︽現场рτミ猭Ы琌局Τ∕㎝э舦
さミ猭Ы穦戳秨﹍パア穨瞯蔼Τ闽菏恨块骋╬兵ㄒ緓"蛮璏璍"Ыず︗某某纯璸购矗兵摸璹兵ㄒぇ丁チ囊砆у蝶ぃ镑过┏ぃ琌"ち"ㄤ龟チ囊璹籔某セ璸购┮矗璹ぃ玥だ猍琌м砃だ猍τチ囊┮矗璹ス莉眔硄筁ヴ︙块骋璸购盢穦ミ沧ゎτ現┎硂よ粄硂猭
穦拜琂礛現┎㎝穦竒干骋璸购皌肂よ笷Θ某︙チ囊ご盢兵ㄒ矗ユミ猭Ы㎡現┎さ穦戳秨﹍睲贰笵ぃ某穦璸购矗菏恨块骋╬兵ㄒ┮ウ繦籔チ囊㎝穦某秈︽酵琌チ囊籔現┎酵瞷腨だ猍現┎绊∕ぃ猭ㄒΑ菏恨骋現郸τよ穦某玥膥尿籔現┎秈︽酵程沧笷Θ2 000骋皌肂某и-
Ч瞶秆穦某匡拒籔現┎秈︽酵笵隔琌チ囊ご礛绊骋現郸ゲ斗猭ㄒ菏恨τΤ闽皌肂计ヘ㎝菏恨灿玥ゲ斗パㄣ┦チ種诀篶ミ猭Ы程﹚管
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ョ粄現┎瞷逼干骋璸购皌肂パ5 000︓2 000ぃ琌琵˙現┎ゼ矗干骋璸购玡現┎ㄤ龟竒氨ゎу块骋璸购皌肂传ēぇ現┎矗5 000皌肂ㄤ龟琌酵店计瞷挡狦琌块骋皌肂パ箂糤︓2 000τ2 000ぃ琌龟借ら浪癚穦糤璶琌チ種琌眏疨やミ猭よΑ┪Μ候骋現郸沮チ囊る┮ЧΘチ種秸琩陪ボ觅Θミ猭よΑ┪Μ候骋現郸计81%耕觅Θ穦籔現┎某计19%块骋拜肈ぃ虫琌闽穦拜肈τ琌闽翠カチ拜肈┮チ囊ぃ钮爹穦種ǎ
硂兵兵ㄒ琌さ材兵Θ矗ユミ猭Ы╬兵ㄒ矗ユ筁祘い現┎纯竒兵ㄒ穦疉のそ┊瞶パは癸矗ユミ猭Ы程ミ猭Ы畊璣掉∕粄硂兵兵ㄒぃ疉のそ┊畊硂Ω掉∕獶盽璶硂陪Ч叉瞒︽現场某穦縒ミ┦㎝︑┦
チ囊辨穦ミ猭Ы某㎝ㄤミ猭Ы某や硂兜兵ㄒ
谅谅畊ネ
MISS MARGARET NG: Mr President, I oppose the Immigration (Amendment) Bill 1995 of the Honourable Michael HO for a number of reasons, one of which having to do with the importation of labour.
In the first place, this is an incomplete legislation. We are asked to approve a new policy whereby no one will be allowed to land or remain in Hong Kong for the purpose of employment, except according to certain regulations and set quota without knowing what these regulations or quota may be. Indeed so far as I know, no such regulation and quota are now in existence.
Secondly, this Bill, if passed without the regulation and quota in place, will cause great confusion to immigration. Since no regulation and quota exist, no one may come to Hong Kong for the purpose of employment, although the Honourable Member may not have intended it. Far more than foreign labourers, every kind of overseas employees will be affected, including business executives, administrative and teaching staff. The only exceptions are the three categories provided in the proposed section 11(1C). So every Immigration Department officer will now have to decide for himself whether a person seeking to come into Hong Kong qualifies for one or the other of these categories. While categories A and C may be easier to determine, B is obviously going to cause great uncertainty. Innumerable people at present on the staff of international organizations may have to be turned away.
Thirdly, I am by no means sure that this is the right approach to the problem of imported labour at this point in time, not only are we using a blatantly political means to solve what is acknowledged to be an economic and administrative problem, but this means is being proposed after, so I am told, broad consensus had already been achieved among the major trade unions and the Administration. In this light, the present Bill would be a step backward for its effect is to undermine what degree of consensus already achieved and put everything on hold while the Secretary for Education and Manpower drafts his regulations and sets his quota. And the parties will again each gather its forces in order to obtain the majority vote. If for any reason the regulations are defeated in this Council, then a further period of freeze and uncertainty will ensue.
Mr President, the above reasons are sufficient for me to oppose the Bill. But I rose to address this Council urged by a deeper and far more important reason. That reason is my fundamental disagreement with the use of legislation as manifested in this Bill.
Mr President, this community has been fighting long and hard for democracy, not because democracy is perfect, but because democracy provides the safest system which prevents unlimited and arbitrary power. The aim of democracy is not to ensure that only good people are the only people with popular support who will have power. The aim is that nobody will be able to exercise unlimited and arbitrary power, be it the executive, the legislature, or the Judiciary. Democracy is about empowering the people, so that they could decide more for themselves. The progress of democracy must be the establishment of more and more autonomous bodies and procedures whereby the people concerned will be able to reach a resolution of their dispute through rational means following a fair procedure. We are here to promote, enhance and protect autonomy, not to substitute our own decision, no matter how superior we consider it, for the decision reached through such a process. Above all, we must not only support the procedure of conflict resolution so long as we agree with the outcome, but use our legislative power to interfere when we do not agree with the outcome. The most benevolent interference is nevertheless an interference which would require very strong justification indeed.
Mr President, I would respectfully point out that the Honourble Michael HO's Bill is suggestive of an interference by way of legislation. It is arbitrary and without sound justification. It is not the proper use of legislation in a democratic system. It is not how we in the context of a democratic system would understand by the rule of law. Thank you, Mr President.
纯胺Θ某璓勉畊ネさぱミ猭Ы弄臛阶Τ闽块骋猭籔筁┕ゑ耕陪ぃぃ虫琌產祇ぃ種ǎ┪у蝶現┎ê或虏虫τ琌龟龟悔悔э跑現┎∕郸诀╯澈и-
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琌琵筁┕"﹛坝つ挡"簔跌舦薄鶪┑尿琌甧砛セ碞穨の戈眔ぃ膀セ玂毁
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咎︑▆み薄竊癸-
匡布薄щ▆み布
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щは癸布獽穦跑"璚ナ爱"逗窲ゴ年ぃ璶候窾ぃ璶パи-
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谅谅畊ネ
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疉の诀初骋骋戈珹砆玤Ι戈禬礚干╈ろ羱盝借び畉单猧確猧奸处臩骋磀篏綝笿沟礚▆糒羪㎝磅現礚穝诀初み祘块骋璸购┮疉の現┎场珹毙参骋矪穝诀初祘参膚矪㎝チ挂ㄆ叭矪璽砫﹛孔蕾蕾俱筁祘パ糵у皌肂磅︽菏诡︓浪北笻猭沟孔簗瑌κ癸沟弘皋璸現┎场菏恨孔稬ㄤ稬
︽現旧現┎羆琌璶单現郸瞷腨拜肈腀種Τ┮︽笆穝诀初骋戈处臩現郸窖簗瑌Τ惠璶粄痷浪癚㎝璹Τ磅︽砏玥︙庇古某タ盢糵у皌肂㎝菏诡磅︽舦砫ユミ猭Ы磷現┎玂毁沟痲τ┑粇┪эア粇現郸
糵у皌肂拜肈戳骋奸ョ处祇ㄇ沟块骋计ヘ筁场だ⊿Τ砆だ-
獽眖絃"ア萝"︑︽ㄤ絃"莜"跑ΘタΑ块"堵"Τ骋处祇┷兑-
禗-
匡拒暗"︑パ"┪"㏕﹚"匡拒"︑パ"骋眖ㄓ⊿Τ筁タΑ沟絃厨穞ボΤ跑砪芥皌肂Τ骋籔沟帽る︓ㄢ秨ぃì獽砆矗玡秆沟硑Θ骋璽杜临秏程絵
ま祇硂ㄇㄆン琌璽砫糵у块骋皌肂场⊿Τ粄痷蝶︳ビ叫骋计ヘ骋痙翠戳丁㎝Τ闽祘砏家獽繦獽у皌肂硑Θ眞礚絘⊿Τ莱祘щ夹基у続秖计ヘ骋硑Θ骋筁逞ぃ猭沟锣芥骋皌肂矗ㄑ回の簗瑌⊿Τ璸衡祘┮惠丁τу筁骋琵盯骋锣ㄤ絃Θи┮弧猭块"堵"
畊ネ㎝畒︗ㄆさぱ矗ユミ猭Ы硄筁╬兵ㄒ盢皌肂糵у舦簿ユミ猭Ы碞瓃糵у㎝蝶︳皌肂拜肈讽ミ猭Ы磝搐Τ闽舦獽眖玂毁チネ玥﹚Τ糵уよ猭㎝続讽皌肂
Τㄇ沟癩現誹瞶パ矗玡秆沟骋胔好沟讽琌筀ы戈ㄓ璸衡щ夹基㎝Θセ秨やス砆ㄌ猭煤计戈獽ミ瞷癩現螟秆沟ま癬骋戈ㄤ龟糵у皌肂璝Τ闽场非絋箇璸祘基㎝骋Θセ瞶ゑ瞯莱赣ňゎㄇ沟瓜硓筁穋骋戈寥柬︓ňゎ沟ノ皌肂ネ癩ㄣ狦莉眔硄筁э硂ㄇア粇惫琁舦常ユミ猭Ыパミ猭Ы┯踞砫ヴ続讽矪瞶
筁菏诡诀よ骋矪㎝チ挂ㄆ叭矪ョ瞏借好沮眡碭祇ネ骋戈絃骋矪常纯竒跌诡沟讽纯ユì镑ゅン莱﹛璶―堡﹛礚猭瑌眡ゅン璉"ぱ诀"沟矪み縩納ノフ矗蹿虫︑笆锣眀甭舦单縡ぱ筁硈チ挂ㄆ叭矪も骋セぃ琌痷タ磅︽︓骋秈︽к处祇ㄓ
癸菏诡挂骋琌┮妮沟厨㎝秨ňゎ"筁逞"骋跑Θ块"堵"ㄢ磅猭场常孔も礚郸骋矪ぃ穦絃"翴繷"チ挂ㄆ叭矪礚眖蛤秈挂︽萝琌硑Θ骋ア萝"筁郎"程斑Τ綼牡よ㎝チ挂矪ㄆ叭矪疭缓场钉ㄒ︽堵︽笆い絩埃ぇセ⊿Τㄤ箇ň快猭
ㄤ龟沟虑块骋︑も猭糷ぃ絘τ"笵蔼へ臸蔼"チ挂ㄆ叭矪ゅン﹛贡骋矪"篘ホ繷筁猠Α"菏诡惫琁Θア粇現郸杆耿瞺块骋現郸パ秨﹍龟琁さぱ┮ǎ骋荡獶穝翧ㄆ┮ぃ琌沟も猭稶ǎ蔼τ現┎癸秆∕拜肈港種㎝竒Τヘ窣碞琌セ暗ぃи﹚瞷琌まミ猭Ы菏服舦
畊ネる┏玥厨彻厨旧и綺佩ぃ厨旧孔︗ぃ腀硓臩﹎︽現Ы某拘瓃︽現Ы硄筁块骋現郸骋矪矗ユゅン⊿Τ珹闽菏诡璸购現┎硄筁琌块骋场だ玱⊿Τ﹚莱菏诡惫琁τさぱミ猭Ы碞琌璶璹莱菏诡惫琁τミ猭よΑぉ磅︽
硂絞厨旧琌痷絋辨現┎ミ猭Ыユ厨旧┮矗の癟靡︙現┎菏诡诀礚猭Τ玂臔骋痲現┎セ⊿Τ絋Ч俱菏诡璸购狦厨旧琌痷絋杠硂贺篈龟极
畊ネ狦⊿ΤΤ菏诡诀块骋現郸穦穦盿ㄓ璽莱セ逗窲砆ゴ年ョ篏砆玠у礚▆沟㎝ㄇㄓ骋叭そτ翠玥璽瓣悔γㄉ臕脖瓣悔诀初Θ"﹀诀初"璽砫菏诡現┎ミ猭Ы某莱赣砮过︑戮舦眏癸块骋菏诡︙庇古某╬兵ㄒ琌ミチ種菏诡块骋現郸材˙ら临Τ砛Τ闽菏诡拜肈﹟э秈
セ略朝勉や
︙玊く某璓勉畊ネи稱碞艷祸某癸硂兵ㄒ猭芠翴借好莱
材硂兵ㄒㄤ龟睲贰莉眔硄筁チ挂ㄆ叭ヴ埃獶竒筁硂兵ㄒ┮璹诀莉眔甭舦碻ㄇ玥礛уㄇ沟挂ㄓ翠τ硂ぃ続ノ瞷竒眔у痙翠硂兵ㄒ莱赣ぃ穦紇臫êㄇ瞷竒痙翠
材某矗瞷⊿Τ玥ョ⊿Τ皌肂┮и-
硄筁硂㎡ㄤ龟и癸矗硂拜肈稰Τㄇ佩砓ㄆ龟и-
ミ猭常穦﹚砰猭ㄒ甭舦猭ㄒ礛倒甭舦璹玥Θ┮孔"猭﹚诀"statutory scheme糹︽ㄇ現郸荡癸琌莱赣Τ砰猭ㄒ礛ΤΤ玥и稱產睲贰癘眔ㄏ琌ぃ瞣疉猭﹚诀ㄒ硄筁Matrimonial CausesAmendmentBill琌Τ闽瞒盉罽祏だ﹡临斗璹玥Matrimonial CausesAmendmentRulesパ玥ごゼ话の﹚┮兵ㄒ临ゼネ硂獽琌ㄒㄏぃ琌猭某笵璶Τ砰猭ㄒ甭舦笵現郸ヘ夹笵︙﹚玥
⊿Τ﹚硂猭﹚诀玡τ璹皌肂硂皌肂タタ琌硂兵ㄒ┮璶﹚猭﹚诀玻┮﹚璶硂诀パ毙▅参膚矗皌肂竒セЫ碻玥硄筁Τ硂皌肂и谋眔êㄢ翴м砃拜肈荡癸ぃノю阑硂兜兵ㄒ︽┦
и稱虏虫莱琌ヴ種疉︽現舦拜肈ㄤ龟狦и-
產钡チ硂芠├碞莱赣钡ㄢ阀├材琌そ渤镑Τキ单把籔舦讽礛硂把籔舦硓筁┪钡匡羭舦硂ㄇ常琌砰瞷把籔よ猭材琌︽現籔ミ猭ぇ丁颗狦и-
眏秸︽現旧τぃ琵Τだ┦ミ猭诀闽Τ瞶颗舦杠硂ぃ琌胺チ诀
ㄤ龟и-
┮璶―颗舦硂兵ㄒ┮璶―у琘ㄇ皌肂舦菌獶⊿Τㄒ穿霉璓某睲贰弧и-
ㄤ龟琌把σ璣瓣瞷簿チ猭ㄒㄏセЫи-
Τ诀ㄏセЫ硓筁某Αу┪璹現┎ㄇΜ禣и-
さぱ碞硂よ臛阶讽礛и-
琌ノ贺∕Αㄓ︽ㄏ硂舦硂琌セЫ颗舦–癩現箇衡惠璶セЫуの兜挤蹿惠セЫ癩叭〆穦у︓盢ㄓ膀吏玂瞶パ恶絛瞅璶沮猭ㄒ祘眔セЫу
︗某ミ猭Ы琌惠璶局Τ硂ㄇ颗舦㎡硂ㄇ颗舦琌瞶颗㎡и稱硂琌и-
さぱ璶σ納よи-
粄パ块骋癸翠俱穦竒蕾のチネㄣΤ紇臫┮ミ猭Ы莱赣Τ硂よ程颗舦
讽礛и獺盢ㄓミ猭Ы︽ㄏ舦穦σ納よ痲タ霉璓某秨﹍┮弧ち笆舦常琌現┎もい現┎磝搐矗皌肂舦硂兜兵ㄒ璹璶竒筁毙▅参膚矗ち戈㎝计沮┮琌パ現┎矗ㄓи獺硂現┎ミ猭Ы颗璹瞶皌肂キ颗惠璶
坚睲瓃计兜芠翴и略叫產や︙庇古某╬兵ㄒ
谅谅畊ネ
某璓勉畊ネ癸︙庇古某矗チ挂璹兵ㄒセ硈碭︗骋某盢穦щは癸布
и-
щは癸布ぃ琌現郸玥は癸τ琌и-
竒匡拒酵郸菠玃ㄏ現┎盢干骋璸购皌肂计ヘ瞷顶琿2 000キの26︽穨㎝贺ぃ眔块骋パ骋臮拜〆穦"骋臮穦"菏诡絋玂セ纔碞穨の碞穨诀穦ぃ紇臫
瞷癸穝璸购琌玂毁セ碞穨﹚阶ご琌ēぇ筁Νи-
粄瞷矗ユ╬猭盢菏恨块骋舦ユ倒ミ猭Ы獶続讽骋盢穦膥尿盞ち菏诡干骋璸购籔現┎酵氨ゎ块骋現郸讽и-
祇瞷干骋璸购菏诡诀ゼ玂毁セи-
獽穦匡拒矗ユ╬猭氨ゎ块骋現郸
︑ㄓ骋眏疨璶―沧ゎ块骋現郸硂琌и-
戳кヘ夹и-
ヘ夹荡癸⊿Τэ跑ミ初ョ⊿Τ癶罽и-
粄и-
瞷┮蹦酵郸菠琌Τ玂毁碞穨続讽よ猭程и略㊣苸Ыず闽猔骋拜肈┮Τ某ぃ璶郸菠ぃτΘは块骋拜肈毁锚
и略朝勉
バ玊某璓勉畊ネ︙庇古某矗硂╬猭︑パ囊σ納и-
ㄓ癸25 000炊硄骋皌肂倒現┎浪癚玠搭5 000稰伐ぇぃ骸繦現┎籔骋よ某笷Θ某現┎癸坝弧笷2 000皌肂硂计ヘ碞穦浪癚骋よ某玱钩Τぃ瞶秆粄2 000皌肂琌
現┎程矗ê2 000肂干骋璸购и-
ǎ稱ビ叫骋沟癸螟沮и┮坝ㄏ⊿Τì镑もぃ腀ビ叫块骋ㄤい瞶パ琌現┎砏﹚狦ㄢ琍戳ず┷竨ぃ沟秈︽繦┮惠も尿ㄓ現┎┮孔ㄢ琍戳琌祅ㄢ琍戳約Τ獽衡ê暗ㄢぱ瞒秨璶穝逼钉ㄏ沟癸現┎硂璸购セ礚獺みи獺現┎ㄢる獽弧⊿Τ沟玡ㄓビ叫┮セぃ惠璶块骋ê或ê2 000肂獽︑礛ぃ笷讽礛碞礚斗秈︽浪癚2 000皌獽Θ坝籔︑パ囊癸硂翴獶盽ぃ骸
︙庇古某矗╬い㏕礛⊿Τ矗皌肂眖チ囊ㄆさぱ簍勉いи-
睲贰笵瘤礛-
⊿Τ矗皌肂龟悔みい皌肂琌"憽矹"ゑ現┎临畉癬иミ猭Ы籔チ囊坝癚︑パ囊籔坝粄カ初惠璶块ぶ骋獽倒ê计ヘ皌肂ぃ﹚琌箂┪2 000┪5 000ぃ筁沮チ囊某秆睦坝セ螟Τ诀穦靡カ初Τ惠璶τ块骋ㄆ龟-
種琌箂
и稱矗翴иΩ︙庇古某矗狦痷Τ港種璶さぱ莉眔硄筁杠きせる矗㎡и-
稱現┎龟琁干骋璸购きせる琌ご琌у"憽矹"ㄓ狦琌杠и-
痷璶腨σ納︙庇古某ぃ筁︙某ぃ腀種硂妓暗さぱи-
讽礛ぃ靡現┎干骋璸购琌и-
稱禜畉穦╈┑︓уぃ2 000肂ㄓ畊ネ︙坝Τ硂妓好納兜块盡璸购い﹚Τ1 000皌肂沮現┎程矗ユ计眖る︓せ块659狦块659杠螟玂瞷ê2 000皌肂る临ゼ计уи-
癸硂翴稰獶盽ぃ骸
膀и┮弧瞶パτ︙某ぃ腀種筐ㄇ矗﹚璶さぱ矗ㄓи-
﹚璶∕﹚┮竒σ納︑パ囊㎝坝常は癸︙某硂兜兵ㄒ
谅谅畊ネ
腑瓣辆某璓勉畊ネ筁翠ア穨瞯蔼牟祇骋穖セ逗窲某ㄏ块骋拜肈Θミ猭Ы︓カチ緇逗荐癚阶肈ヘる骋砆玤Ι戈セЫㄆ璶まノ舦の疭舦猭笲ノ筁κ窾そ┊秨测癟さぱ︙庇古某矗硂兵╬兵ㄒ璶―ミ猭ЫΤ舦糵у块骋の诀初骋皌肂チ羛琌ぃや
羆服る琁現厨い矗5 000肂干骋璸购筁┕25 000肂块骋璸购竒現┎㎝骋よ秸程沧矗蛮よ钡タよ盢肂э2 000τ2 000肂ЧΘу翠┎穦硓筁诀秈︽浪癚∕﹚琌糤搭肂ヘ玡琂礛骋戈蛮よ籔現┎碞骋块拜肈眔醚笷Θ某块骋拜肈眔秆∕某ご礛绊ミ猭よΑ矪瞶骋拜肈琌穦跑眔⊿Τ種竡硂ョぃ琌続讽丁鶪癸現┎嘲尿矗ユ癚阶兜現┎禣某現┎箇衡㎝兵ㄒ糵某ミ猭Ы琌惠乃丁蠢︽現场矪瞶ㄣ砰
骋臮拜〆穦("骋臮穦")盢璽砫菏恨干骋璸购–﹙ビ叫Ω某矗蔼瘆玻ろ羱玂毁∕某莉眔硄筁瘆胊骋臮穦拜肈笷Θ醚牟祇骋臮穦基癚阶さΩ某矗╬兵ㄒ璶―Τ舦糵у骋皌肂の﹚砏ㄒ琌Ω粄骋臮穦"緋瞶"┪琌パウ菏恨琌"獺筁"㎡
畊ネ穦诀篶刮砰珹現┎ぃ场舱Θ场だ常Τ︑ōだà︹璶穦镑㎝坑篫抖笲Τ苦產讽簍亩︑à︹ミ猭Ы戮ぇ琌璽砫ミ猭︙某矗兵ㄒ某糵у骋皌肂ユパミ猭Ы程∕﹚碞琌э跑ミ猭Ыà︹盢舅琜篶パ︽現旧эミ猭旧パミ猭Ы旧現┎硂琌и-
┮ぃ钡
纯胺Θ某祇ēい盢や︙庇古某矗ユ╬兵ㄒ琌骋痲斑夹非獺硂琌チ囊碵薄腀稱猭ョ彩忌拎て痷タ骋某瞶┦∕郸
块骋拜肈チ羛璶―Θミパ骋よ戈よの現┎舱Θよ〆穦菏诡骋秈甶薄鶪癸︙庇古某硂兵╬兵ㄒチ羛ぃ穦や
畊ネセ略朝勉は癸兵ㄒ
郭Θ某璓勉畊ネиチ祇ē矗翴種ǎ
材チや骋某籔現┎坝癚┮笷璓干骋璸购诀и粄莱甧砛硂诀龟琁琿戳狦ΤぃТ到ぇ矪莱倒ぉ诀穦甧砛ㄤэ到и-
獺硂诀琌Θ更︑Τだ惧瞷ぃ琌硄筁︙庇古某╬兵ㄒ
ㄤ龟︙某兵ㄒ安砞盢穦Τ┪竒Τ诀恨块骋璝痷Τ硂诀琌顶琿и-
莱琵ウΤ诀穦龟琁纯胺Θ某┽阑瞷骋糵у硂妓у蝶靡瞷ゼΤ甅骋現囊㎝穦常钡诀珿и-
莱倒骋籔現┎┮笷Θ诀诀穦︙玊く某矗さΩ琌硄筁砰猭ㄒ璶单ㄒ糶Θネㄒ㎡硂タ砆まノи-
莱甧砛诀ぉ龟︽礛笵︙糶Θ诀
材チ辨瞷顶琿ぃ穦糤紇臫砍穝诀初ぃ材チや骋筁骋舦痲τ秈︽笲笆腀種Ыず布や-
骋程и-
ョ辨干骋璸购眔˙Θ狦セЫㄆ栋い秖ㄏ現┎蹦惫琁糤セ翠碞穨诀穦硂莱赣琌セЫㄆ顶琿よ
セ略チは癸︙庇古某╬兵ㄒ
㏄辩睶┥某璓勉畊ネバ玊某竒︑パ囊弧и-
ミ初ㄆ龟さΩ︑パ囊硂∕﹚琌獶盽羮螟∕﹚程┣碞琌ㄤ龟︑パ囊ず程躬纘и-
籔チ囊秸┪σ納やチ囊硂┦タタ琌バ玊某程獺︙庇古某港種堡硂港種琌ほ谋さぱとミ猭Ыチ囊Τ钉皑秈初某秈︽村弧绢肂睲贰糶︙庇古某╬弄"氨ゎ块骋"
硂ミ初ョ琌チ囊砮ミ初и-
臮ミ猭Ыきるら秈︽某臛阶チ囊独綺笽某弧璶氨ゎ块骋眎ゅ某弧璶ミ氨ゎ块骋璸购琖皇某弧穦縩伐現┎沧ゎ块骋璸购せるら地某璶―現┎眖硉ミ猭沧ゎ块骋現郸︙庇古某弧璶ミ块骋現郸独綺笽某璶―ミ氨ゎ块骋︗チ囊某ΩЫずЫ篈睲贰は琈赣囊玥碞琌璶沧ゎ块骋硂ミ初琌臟ㄆ龟靡沮絋苭"钢常ハ"霉璓某弧璶ミ猭菏恨璸购琂礛氨ゎ块骋临Τ或惠璶菏恨硂呸胯抡粇竒臩礚框
︙玊く某Τ迭秆睦琌猭﹚诀產笵ミ猭琌膀膀セ現郸︙玊く某︙秆睦-
籔-
膀セ現郸氨ゎ块骋琌璉笵τ梗㎡弧ミ猭琌璶程颗舦ㄤ龟種琌弧璶程∕舦狦砰猭は琈Ч籔ㄤは膀セ現郸玥礚阶琌チ囊︗某礚阶弧狝Τ眏獺さぱ狦刚瓜﹚块骋現郸眔続讽菏诡瞶パ稱璶弧狝セЫㄆ璶ぃ碞琌┪ㄤㄆぃ璶ぃ碞琌︳и-
醇紌狦︑パ囊┪ㄤㄆ砆-
ノ硂琌τ獶の"弘だ吊"瞶阶┮弧狝獺穦砆穦碽ぃ秆︙や块骋現郸︑パ囊澈穦甧砆縡腇腊チ囊р硄筁"氨ゎ块骋"猌竟
ぃ眔ぃ矗琌俱拜肈"﹛骋つ挡"瞷禜さぱ妮穦ㄆ钮弧ぃ琌钮弧某ボ穦は癸︙庇古某兵ㄒ狦﹛骋ぇ丁ぃ琌Τ"骋"ユ稱┤穦荡ぃ穦ぃや兵Ξ"氨ゎ块骋"眖羆服る琁現厨┮某5 000ぇ计る現┎玠2 000ぇ计癸沟叫ぃ螟φぃ籇癸26贺窽ゎ块骋珹箂扳穨㎝都穨ず常ボ﹛よЧ穦溃τ簔跌翠竒蕾惠璶и硂Ω睲贰笷坝ぷㄤ琌沟癸現┎硂ンㄆ矪瞶よ猭ぃ骸
畊ネиは癸︙庇古某兵ㄒ
法此某璓勉畊ネ骋拜肈и膀セぶ祇ēぃ筁и钮筁碙穛艷祸某ê絞簍勉稱ㄇ莱眏秸チ谋眔チ琌產硓筁絉坝ㄓ秆∕拜肈の程璶琌チぃ垒ノ舦礚阶琌現┎ミ猭Ы某и獺иチ纯ぃぶ盢ㄓ穦琌┮и疭癸ē阶Τ┮は莱
и︑拜チ囊硂兵╬琌沮チ笴栏砏玥τ矗沮舅某矗╬и-
碙穛璊ド某碞琌Ω腢粅現┎璶―ウ矗は猍跌猭現┎玱ぃ瞶穦┮璊ド某矗╬ㄏㄓ現┎矗ㄇΤ闽は┦猍跌のは摧痚猍跌璊ド某ご礛矗╬癸璊ド某场だゼ莉硄筁猭и-
∕﹚穦さミ猭ずΩ矗и-
膀セ獺琌そ笵菏诡現┎τ︽ㄏи-
舦
產膀ぃは癸︙庇古某╬ㄒ骋弧竒籔現┎笷Θ某琂礛Τ某碞⊿Τ瞶パēΤㄇ某粄璶や某ΘΤㄇ粄穦現郸璶玂ㄇ莱赣玂毁坝痲粄块骋搭硄等盢ネ玻矗蔼產Τは癸ぃ筁眖舅à弧и-
チ囊矗硂╬琌笻はチ弘и碞痷篘ぃ繷福┮ぃ眔ぃ癬ㄓ弧杠琂礛舅璹Τ╬ミ猭Ы某碞笲ノ╬菏诡現┎и-
Ω碞块骋拜肈籔現┎酵現┎Ч⊿Τは莱┮и-
笲ノ硂贺舦ㄆ龟и-
笲ノ硂舦硂兵ㄒ產菏诡種籔常琌竒筁產癚阶琂礛硂琌笴栏砏玥и-
宽某穦笴栏砏玥笲ノ╬祇揣菏诡現┎弘┮и︑拜痷ぃ诡谋硂︙穦笻はチ弘
谅畊ネ
畕地某璓勉畊ネ郸菠琌Τ顶┦量郸菠ぃ镑赤アミ初┻斌玥赤アミ初┻斌玥郸菠ぃ筁琌舦砃τぃ筁琌︑篡篡舦砃τΤ绊タ絋ミ初の玥镑笲ノタ絋郸菠
и略朝勉
玂璓勉畊ネ闽︙庇古某矗某兵ㄒи穦酵の現┎癸硂猭俱砰種ǎの癸挂ㄆ叭よ┮盿ㄓ拜肈иㄆ毙▅参膚穦冈瓃Τ闽猭癸块骋璸购ㄣ砰紇臫
硂兜㎝る︙庇古某ミ猭Ы矗兵ㄒだㄤきる綝セЫ∕и-
さぱ┮臛阶籔セЫщ布∕だ稬ㄤ稬さぱ兵ㄒ某パ毙▅参膚τぃ琌チ挂ㄆ叭矪矪璽砫﹚妮猭ㄒ璹ㄇご礛Τ僚薄鶪
ヴ︙ミ猭诀闽矗兵ㄒ常莱砰兵ㄒ┪非称ㄖ璹妮猭ㄒい睲贰弧兵ㄒ璶現郸㎝硂琌璽砫ヴそ︽現讽礛ㄇ冈灿м砃┦灿玥琌甧妮ミ猭Α﹚ㄓぃ⊿Τ璶現郸㎝旧薄鶪碞矗硂兜猭現┎矪瞶﹛よ兵ㄒ碞琌蹦ノ▆そ︽現よ猭讽礛セЫ穦癸兵ㄒ璉現郸国秈︽臛阶跌薄鶪ㄓ∕﹚琌璹硄筁ы┪∕
瞷琵и-
沮硂▆そ︽現非玥╯︙某┮矗現郸┪紇臫硂現郸琌或ウ璶ヘ琌矪瞶块骋拜肈︙某┮眎块骋現郸㎝暗猭㎡ず琌тぃㄓセ砏﹚毙▅参膚矗妮猭ㄒ璹Τ闽現郸㎝暗猭︙某矪и-
硂ㄇ現郸暗猭㎝皌肂莱琌妓硂琌兵伐疭猭ㄒ︗某癸硂┮戳辨笷現郸㎝暗猭睝ぃ薄玱砆璶―硄筁硂猭传杠弧︗某琌砆璶―硄筁ㄇ睝ぃ薄τ紇臫琌家絢ぃ睲某硂﹚ぃ琌璽砫ヴミ猭诀闽莱暗
斑﹚狦琌硂穦の氨ゎ┮Τ块骋璸购珹称沟㎝沟や干骋璸购ず⊿Τ矗ㄤ璸购Τ璸购狦硄筁硂碞琌单⊿Τㄎ現郸篟反兜竒秨﹍龟︽現郸硂暗猭琌Τ瘆胊礚砞
るセЫ秈︽臛阶いиノゴ瘆怠めゑ畴︙某讽矗摸ぃ瞶ぇ矪瞷パ薄鶪菠Τэ跑и璶эиゑ畴せセ讽и-
祇瞷硂ミ猭Ы穦某Τ件怠ぃ耞函穦某ず碞矗秆∕快猭钡函紇臫獶盽縩伐传穝怠め场だ常稰骸種τ滴続吏挂ず膥尿и-
ぃ筁Τ┪技玱ぃ或絫珿ぃ尺舧硂唉穝怠绊璶р穝怠めゴ瘆狦и-
酚硂種ǎ暗ㄤ场だ杆穝怠めτ暗ひ獽穦フ禣狦杆Т唉穝怠睲瞶件窰玥砛临σ納種ǎ琌︽┪ㄆ龟獶ê痙倒矪瞶骸件窰τ⊿Τ或絋璸购穝杆皌唉穝件怠辨ㄤ穦骋玱⊿Τヴ︙璶杆皌怠㎝肅︹︓Τぶ丁秈︽杆硂戳丁и-
砰常г獴ゴ吏挂璝Ττ稰ぃ続┪ネ痜杠穦弧"硂籔и礚闽ぃ琌и筁岿"獺產常睲贰硂贺礚種醚瘆胊︽龟抡荡
ぃ筁︙某盿拜肈ぃゎи-
硓筁チ挂兵ㄒτ絋ミ挂恨琌チ挂ㄆ叭矪矪皍薄∕﹚舦膀娄τ矪皍薄∕﹚玥沮︽現Ы┮璹現郸τ︽硂兵玠畓チ挂ㄆ叭矪矪皍薄舦挡狦盢礚猭┕莱ㄆンぃ薄鶪艶Τ矪瞶快猭ㄤ龟瞷︽挂恨镑だ祇揣ノぃ璹皌ǔ硉锣跑吏挂ゼ竒糵稸σ納狦薄鶪р瞷︽篟反┪碩э穦琌繧㎝ぃ璽砫ヴ暗猭讽礛妮ミ猭Αㄓ砏﹚挂現郸琘ㄇ瓣瓣產Τㄒ穿и-
ぃヘй脓ㄤ瓣產┪跋暗猭τぃ瞶穦硂ㄇ暗ㄆよ猭琌翠瞷惠璶и-
ぃ璶а癘禫絛瞅ミ猭砏︽現惫琁獽禫穦玠畓︽現紆┦︗癸埃穦沧ゎ┮Τ块骋璸购穦ㄏ挂恨ア紆┦
セョ穦ま癬種ぇ捌ノタΩ硂兵⊿Τ倒ぉ琘摸疭僚硂摸ビ叫挂┮ㄣ称兵ン獶﹚Τ疭мτ琌盿ㄓ秖щ戈戈щ戈癸セ翠竒蕾糤だ璶癸ㄓщ戈窖ぃ穦甡セ翠竒蕾临穦穕甡セ種璶玂臔セ沟
埃щ戈ぃぶ癸セ翠祇甶Θ瓣悔㎝跋坝穨㎝ゅていみ癬璶ノョ礚種いΘ碾и硂よ羭计ㄒ-
珹瓣蝗︽產坝の緉翠瓣そ沟︓ゅてよ玥珹ㄓ翠把ゅて㎝砰▅笆美砃產簍㎝笲笆临Τ獶現┎┪в腀刮砰沟-
礚疭м┪-
疭мセ翠常т躬纘竒蕾ゅての砰▅がユ瑈チ挂ㄆ叭矪矪瞷Τ皍薄舦沮薄鶪砛-
ㄓ翠ぃ筁セ玱ぃ甧砛硂妓暗ささら讽瓣㎝跋眏竒禩祇甶常Τヘ碞琌埃┪搭ぶ癸禩㎝笴毁锚龟琁硂妓兵﹚琌兜癶
р︙庇古某さぱ璶―︗硄筁籔砆セЫ∕ゑ耕︗某穦猔種セ璽ヘ夹ゼΤэ跑ぃ▆捌ノごゼ埃狦硄筁セ琌穦の祇岿粇癟⌒и-
┻斌胺秨㎝Τ挂恨τぇ玱琌睼睹家絢㎝ろ艶┦恨快猭陪セぃ翠瓣悔のㄈび跋磕禩いみ祇甶
膀瓃のиㄆ毙▅参膚祔秆睦現┎绊∕は癸︙庇古某矗弄︗某∕兵摸硂絢さぱ︗某莱Τ瞶パ∕セ
谅谅畊ネ
襖略ビ某璓勉畊ネㄓ弧﹛祇ēи-
ぃ穦莱и钮ㄇ抡荡阶沮┮ぃ眔ぃ莱ㄏ魁い坚睲玂秨﹍弧......
PRESIDENT: Mr TO, resume your seat first. May I explain a bit first. We are at a stage before the final reply. As explained in the past, I have no authority under Standing Orders to stop a Member who has not spoken yet from speaking. So I am calling Mr James TO to speak, although I have called the Secretary for Security to speak and who has spoken.
襖略ビ某玂秨﹍祇ē︙庇古某猭現郸ヘぃ睲贰弧ず⊿Τヴ︙灿竊⊿Τ妮猭ㄒ絑и稱拜現┎矗ユミ猭ЫΤぶ琌﹚Т讽Ч﹚妮猭ㄒ㎡и羭筁┕兵猭ㄒ琌и-
纯現┎璶―妮猭ㄒτ現┎琌Чぃ矗ㄑ玂弧現郸ヘ夹ぃ睲贰ㄤ龟и粄現郸ヘ夹琌睲睲贰贰碞琌盢セパチ挂ㄆ叭矪矪┮局Τ舦ユ倒ミ猭Ы硂碞琌兵ㄒ現郸ヘ夹и辨玂ぃ璶пΡ┮Τ笵瞶ぃ種硂現郸ヘ夹粄皍薄舦莱舅逼パ現┎局Τ硂妓弧ぃ弧兵ㄒ現郸ヘ夹ぃ睲贰
材羭杆件怠ㄒ硂碞稴は稰︙庇古某吝艭矗硂兵ㄒΤㄢ丁硂戳丁и-
甧砛現┎σ納︙皌硂龟琁某矗╬猭琌舦狦Θ璹猭ㄒΘ猭ㄒ現┎獽璶皌暗
и刚羭ㄒи纯竒︓丁沽刚璹現┎ㄇΤ闽チ靖砏﹚и讽璶―诀丁どΩ计Ω讽竒蕾弧硂妓ぃТΤㄒ薄鶪ㄒ膀笵瞶パ诀┪ネ痜瞶パ┪┑筐单瞶パ硂ㄇЧタ盽絪皌痁絛瞅讽竒蕾暗猭琌叭龟暗猭踞みス硄筁碞穦丁ど诀计ヘ┮笆璓ㄧ砰某弧狦稱э杠辨襖略ビ某σ納эΘ琘よτ硂琌-
暗眔讽礛程и-
ㄌ礛粄現┎琌ぃ稱э赣兜猭ㄒぃ筁硂琌経辅暗猭弧狦琌э杠σ納┮Τ莱︙э讽礛現┎村弧某は癸иê兜璹
妓ㄓ弧Τ闽︙庇古某兵ㄒ現┎ㄢㄓ眖ㄓ⊿Τ矗ヴ︙璹拜肈琌現┎ウ﹚ぃ莉硄筁盾ぃ琌狦セЫ某㎝骋某礛砆纯胺Θ某さぱ簍勉┮稰笆┪▆Τヴ︙锣跑硄筁︙庇古某兵ㄒ現┎︙矪瞶㎡璶ぃ碞琌羆服ぃ帽竝璶ぃ碞琌現┎璶皌玂矗ㄇщ戈盡穨瓣緉翠そ沟单現┎Τ丁﹚ㄇ僚兵蹿┪秈︽璹筁┕ミ猭Ы臛阶い薄鶪現┎穦璹猭ㄒ┪矗は癸種ǎ︓矗摸よ倒某э現┎さΩ玱Ч⊿Τ硂妓暗琌硂ㄇм砃瞶パ膁硂琌璽砫ヴ現┎┮㎡硂Чぃ琌経辅璽砫ヴ現┎┮
耴╯┏硂琌チ挂ㄆ叭矪矪皍薄舦ы┪ミ猭Ы∕﹚舦拜肈拜肈碞琌硂或虏虫狦и-
Τ戈方ㄓ暗Т┮Τ妮猭ㄒ杠さぱ碞パи-
ㄓ讽玂毙▅参膚τぃ琌パГ癸-
讽-
琌稱盢現┎舦ユㄓ㎡莱赣ぃ琌┮ぃ莱赣硂妓弧
谅谅畊ネ
毙▅参膚璓勉畊ネи稱眖块骋à現┎は癸硂兜兵ㄒ瞶パ
兵ㄒパ﹍︓沧常琌皐癸块骋璸购る現┎ЧΘ︑秨﹍龟琁块骋璸购浪癚礛籔珹沟沟ミ猭Ы某の現囊秈︽Ω約獂τ瞏吭高и蔼砍钮霉璓某祇ēい靡龟セ纯籔チ囊秈︽吭高㎝癚阶ㄆ龟霉某靡龟и-
籔チ囊ぃ笷Θ醚璶瞶パ琌パ﹍︓沧チ囊绊矗硂兵ㄒパ﹍︓沧チ囊常⊿Τ矗ヴ︙ㄣ砰块骋璸购某硂琌睲贰程硓筁約獂吭高現┎∕﹚よ沧ゎ块骋璸购よるら秨﹍龟琁穝干骋璸购硂兜穝块骋璸购冈灿ず甧珹肂2 000碞秈︽浪癚硂诀常琌睲睲贰贰フ堵糶ㄓиゲ斗眏秸硂兜干骋璸购睲贰弧現┎块骋現郸ヘ夹材琌絋玂セ纔碞穨羱筍㎝褐眔瞶玂毁沟斗纔竨叫セ恶干戮︗材狦沟絋龟ゼセ竨眔┮惠も块骋恶干赣单
硂兜璸购キ颗よ痲瘤礛Τㄇ癸璸购Τ┮玂痙Τㄇ癸ㄤΤ種ǎ赣璸购莉眔骋臮拜〆穦沟㎝沟刮砰の穦約獂や霉某矗Τ眏疨チ種やチ囊兵ㄒ狦琌琘らチ囊秈︽チ種秸琩挡狦иぃ稱Τヴ︙у蝶霉某のチ囊囊チ種秸琩よ琌盡產иぃ幢弧赣兜チ種秸琩琌芠-
Τ冈灿秆睦兵ㄒ硄筁狦のΤ倒ㄤ匡拒и癘眔る矗赣兜干骋璸购Τ厨彻纯秈︽縒ミチ種秸琩挡狦陪ボ筁计砐や現┎干骋璸购俱琿吭高戳丁眖и┮眔厨彻蝶阶珹阶の厩㎝縒ミ厨彻祇ゅ彻眔禜琌场だ常や赣兜ǒ璚眔ㄓキ颗よ⊿Τ厨彻阶琌そ秨やチ囊硂兵兵ㄒ
干骋璸购笲琌パ骋臮拜〆穦璽砫菏恨иゲ斗眏秸干骋璸购ㄤい灿玥碞琌и-
穦﹚戳ミ猭Ыㄆ叭〆穦矗ユ厨干骋璸购笲獶盽そ秨硓蔼┮瞷绊硄筁兵Τ催兵ㄒ挡狦ぃ筁眔碞琌┮Τ瞷︽块骋璸购珹竒龟琁干骋璸购常璶ミ氨ゎ兵ㄒ倒甧砛毙▅参膚﹚妮猭ㄒ碞Τ闽兵ㄒ┪皌肂块骋Τ闽硂翴и籔チ囊癚阶いиЧぃ磝搐-
稱猭ㄆ龟パチ囊秨﹍矗硂兵兵ㄒ︓さ挡狦常琌睲捶碞琌狦硄筁兵ㄒ碞穦ミ氨ゎ┮Τ块骋璸购Τ某祇ē矗ㄤ龟-
琌甧砛ΤΤ菏恨Τ皌肂薄鶪块骋и︓さごゼ钮-
酵のㄣ砰ず甧ㄢ竒筁さぱ琌薄竊ㄢ常ぃ跑み琌薄琌璽砫ヴ某┪現囊㎡иぃ稱祇種ǎ
Τ某矗穝诀初のΤ闽祘疭块骋璸购程ま癬骋戈и-
┯粄Τ硂ㄇ拜肈τи桂Ωミ猭Ы玂靡и-
穦腨盞糵稸矪瞶硂拜肈笻猭︽и-
琌荡癸ぃ穦甧г龟悔и-
碞ㄇ矗禗砠τㄇи-
ョタ秸琩ㄣ砰︽笆よи-
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畊ネ翠竒蕾羉篴Τ苦и-
ǔ硉㎝Τ莱跑ョΤ苦и-
㎝坑骋戈闽玒┮и-
﹚璶蝴干骋璸购狦и-
盢块骋璸购跑Θ猭ㄒ砏恨τ矗Τ闽猭ㄒ福砋ぃ稱或и谋眔盢穦玠畓и-
ǔ硉続莱蒥初惠璶艶┦腨穕甡块骋璸购Θ穕甡翠俱砰竒蕾痲и笵セЫ某だ碙翠猭и-
ぃ莱ミ猭τミ猭⊿Τ璸购蠢薄鶪或и-
璶瘆胊現┎㎝骋戈蛮よ竒筁ぃ耞癚阶絉坝㎝秸笷Θ醚硂琌иぃフ┮и略叫セЫ某沟沟の翠俱砰痲∕硂兵ㄒ
谅谅畊ネ
︙庇古某璓勉畊ネ谅產硂或裤臘祇ē硂抄и筁薄竊边
艷祸某矗ㄇ芠翴и辨莱弧硂琌兵ぃЧず⊿Τ矗ㄇ睲贰兵ンの皌肂τи村弧ㄇЫず某ョΤ矗摸芠翴ㄤ龟Τㄇ皌肂┪磅︽よ猭瞷︽現竒龟︽ぃ筁瞷┮Τㄆ薄常琌ㄇ︽現逼骋矪Τ兵ゅ砏硂ㄇㄆ薄莱︙龟︽狦и-
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︓笷Θ醚ㄆㄤ龟и村弧糂紌某㎝チ-
Τ矗硂醚弧︙ぃ琵赣よ沽刚崩︽㎡ㄤ龟赣兜醚籔硂兵ㄒセō琌⊿Τ侥-
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и稱干俱癚阶筁祘ㄤ龟讽朝緼ネ踞ヴ毙▅参膚и-
竒籔秈︽癚阶︓ヴ毙▅参膚辩ゅネи-
纯籔癚阶и-
琌竒筁ㄢ癚阶矗硂兵ㄒ硂и稱矗╯澈и-
琌﹚璶︑︽矗硂╬ㄤ龟氮琌﹚и纯禗ッキネ狦ぃ稱и-
矗硂╬兵ㄒр讽琌現┎兵ㄒセЫ矗琌ぃ薄腀τ
某弧и-
瞷矗琌筁Ν莱单某︽笲狦и-
獺瞷硂某笲琌︽眔硄碞ぃ穦矗硂ぃ琌︽現砏絛τ琌ミ猭砏絛琵瞷硂甅沽刚龟︽硂︙ぃ㎡
バ玊某矗皌肂拜肈ㄤ龟и痷辨讽Τ闽皌肂猭ㄒ矗ユセЫ-
璹2 000临琌2 001и-
癚阶狦-
Τ计沮ри弧狝и⊿Τ瞶パぃぉや弧璶―иきせる矗兵ㄒи痷ぃΤ或種竡
腑瓣辆某矗︽現旧и稱矗眶チ羛翠ミ猭Ы程陪瞷ミ猭旧︽現兵╬兵ㄒ碞琌チ羛糜模﹙ネ┕┮矗兵Τ闽氨ゎそ叭锣セ╬兵ㄒ硂ぃ琌兜紇臫渤カチ現郸τ琌闽そ叭砰╰ず场だそ叭锣拜肈ㄤ龟弧琌そ叭砰╰ず恨瞶拜肈讽チ羛矗硂兵ㄒや硂兵翠Τㄓ程陪瞷ミ猭旧︽現╬兵ㄒㄆ龟讽チ囊㎝︑パ囊常や赣и-
瞷菏诡猳弚近基程チ羛矗タ硂ぃ琌ミ猭旧τ琌и-
菏诡︽現诀闽笲
郭Θ某弧莱琵硂穝诀龟琁и笵チΤ囊刮ミ猭Ы碭︗某ぃさ边硂∕﹚-
щ布渡ぃ筁狦Τ诀穦杠瞷临Τだ牧丁-
话穘筿杠沽刚
㏄辩睶┥某弧и-
菏恨ぃ睲贰ぃ笵菏恨ㄇ或狦現┎睲贰靡ㄇ竨叫ぃもи-
琌ぃ穦ぃ甧砛赣单戮︗块骋硂兵ㄒㄤ龟碔紆┦ア穨瞯耕蔼и-
盢皌肂︓箂狦痷靡Τ沟竨叫ぃ皌肂耎︓礚ぃ穦Ы琘计ヘ︓弧硂琌続菏诡诀и-
荡癸粄硂琌続菏诡诀程ぶ耕骋臮拜〆穦続赣穦莱赣琌臮拜诀篶
玂弧и-
現郸ぃ睲贰и粄だ睲贰碞琌菏恨块骋螟笵临Τ或現郸ぃΘи谋眔現┎弧妓и矗硂兵ㄒ現┎粄硂疉のそ┊秨や埃ぇ玱⊿Τ矗筁┮矗ヴ︙瞶パるら竝瞶玂璊厩ネ弄臛阶⊿Τ矗玂┮弧ヴ︙瞶パ琌荡癸⊿Τ-
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琌谋眔铆粄さ边硂兵ㄒ﹚ぃ莉硄筁ㄤ龟現┎﹛痷胕磌-
⊿Τ沽刚﹚ㄇ妮猭ㄒ碞粄硂兵ㄒ﹚ぃ莉硄筁и某村弧ヴ到圭某癸и弧現┎禗狦兵ㄒ硄筁碞穦ぃТ穦ミㄨ氨ゎ块骋璸购⊿Τ妮猭ㄒ讽礛⊿Τ妮猭ㄒ現┎⊿Τも﹚現┎硂妓琌硑Θ芠瞷龟兵ㄒ硄筁⊿Τ妮猭ㄒㄓ某ぃщ觅Θ布
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弧タ琌传甅ぃ璶骋臮拜〆穦秈︽菏恨τ璶ミ猭Ы璽砫叫玂э跑ㄒ!и-
硂竤ミ猭Ы某癚阶莱赣妓传怠癚阶︙传怠и-
﹚ぃ穦ぃ传ê怠ヴ眔и-
砆獴睴
刚拜и兵ㄒず矗穦チ挂ㄆ叭矪矪皍薄舦セЧ⊿Τ砏皍薄舦穝某珹2 000皌肂骋臮拜〆穦糵уㄤ龟ぃ碞琌砏骋矪矪皍薄舦盾︓弧或蝗︽ゅて獶現┎舱麓硂ㄇぃ碞琌Τ疭醚м盾-
沮Τ闽兵ゅ莉眔僚ㄒゅてよ狦-
来眔佰琘贺簈"﹖琍瞈"簍翠⊿Τ来眔佰и-
ぃ琌琵-
挂盾-
陪琌莉眔僚и-
ヘ夹琌玂毁セ
毙▅参膚弧碞硂兵ㄒи-
チ種や琌︙眔ㄓ拜и-
琌秈︽ê兜筿杠砐拜狦璶и-
珼驹и辨タタΑΑㄓ珼驹и-
╯ぃТ玱珼驹и-
秸琩琌κだκ芠刚拜硂穦Τκだκ芠ㄆ狦珼驹硂ンㄆッ环常琌癸パ骋臮拜〆穦菏恨﹚戳セЫㄆ叭〆穦蹲厨瞷タ龟︽и-
碞琌ぃ骸種硂よΑ璶―э︙ぃ癚阶パミ猭Ы菏恨硂ㄆ㎡
毙▅参膚矗"催"兵ㄒиぃ幢弧翠Τㄓ程"催"兵ㄒ獽琌毙▅参膚┮矗癸ぃ癬ぃ琌ぃ筁ユパ磕ㄆ叭矪瞶иぃ幢弧ê琌翠ミ猭程"催"兵ㄒи舧︗肚碈狟ねの厩盢и兵ㄒ籔椿安玡硄筁ê兜兵ㄒゑ耕兵程嘿眔琌"催"
琵毙▅参膚﹚êㄇ砏玥ぃ琌"倒"拜肈ぃ筁琌и-
碙︽現旧瞷糶猭琌狦毙▅参膚ぃ﹚êㄇ猭ㄒミ猭Ы某琌ぃ﹚
毙▅参膚矗ㄢぃ跑み獽琌薄硂夹非琌ㄇ狦倒иびび钮﹚穦砆纞иぃΤぶΜ诀钮硂弧杠砆纞パ翠幅蹲翴︓さぱチ囊и-
程ぶ⊿Τ跑み
矗瘆胊醚ㄤ龟и-
⊿Τゴ衡瘆胊醚и-
ぃ筁稱盢瞷︽ㄇㄆ薄睲贰糶ㄓ硂ㄇㄆ薄糶ㄓ琌璹癚阶и兵ㄒ玡糂ホ某笆某弄㎝弄そぺ璹兵ㄒ矗璶パミ猭Ы菏恨弧瞷パ︽現Ы∕﹚ぃ竒ミ猭Ы暗猭琌ぃ瞶矗ㄇㄆ矗ユ︓ミ猭Ыミ猭Ы琌ぃ﹚穦∕ㄤ龟讽и钮弄㎝弄硂兵ㄒи谋眔ㄤ龟籔и兵ㄒ︙さぱ玱ぃやи兵ㄒ㎡
程и笵и兵ㄒさ边⊿Τ或诀穦莉眔硄筁┮и瞷み薄キ㎝非称琌﹚穦块и硂略ア穨狟ねのㄇ虫縒翠骋薄竊е贾
и略朝勉
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill put.
Voice vote taken.
THE PRESIDENT said he thought the "Noes" had it.
Mr Michael HO claimed a division.
PRESIDENT: Council shall proceed to a division.
PRESIDENT: I am quite sure Members would know that the question they have to vote on is the Second Reading of the Immigration (Amendment) Bill 1995. Would Members please register their presence by pressing the top button and proceed to vote by choosing one of the three buttons below?
PRESIDENT: Still one short of the head count. Before I declare the result, Members may wish to check their votes. Are there any queries? The result will now be displayed.
Mr Martin LEE, Mr SZETO Wah, Mr Albert CHAN, Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong, Mr Michael HO, Dr HUANG Chen-ya, Mr LEE Wing-tat, Mr Fred LI, Mr James TO, Dr YEUNG Sum, Mr WONG Wai-yin, Mr Andrew CHENG, Dr Anthony CHEUNG, Mr Albert HO, Mr LAW Chi-kwong, Mr SIN Chung-kai, Mr TSANG Kin-shing and Dr John TSE voted for the motion.
Mrs Selina CHOW, Mr Edward HO, Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mrs Miriam LAU, Mr CHIM Pui-chung, Miss Emily LAU, Mr Eric LI, Mr Henry TANG, Dr Samuel WONG, Dr Philip WONG, Miss Christine LOH, Mr James TIEN, Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr CHAN Wing-chan, Miss CHAN Yuen-han, Mr Paul CHENG, Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung, Mr CHOY Kan-pui, Mr IP Kwok-him, Mr LAU Chin-shek, Mr Ambrose LAU, Dr LAW Cheung-kwok, Mr LEUNG Yiu-chung, Mr Bruce LIU, Mr MOK Ying-fan, Miss Margaret NG, Mr NGAN Kam-chuen and Mr YUM Sin-ling voted against the motion.
THE PRESIDENT announced that there were 18 votes in favour of the motion and 29 votes against it. He therefore declared that the motion was negatived and no further proceedings on the Bill shall be taken.
BANK OF TOKYO-MITSUBISHI BILL
Resumption of debate on Second Reading which was moved on 10 January 1996
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill proposed, put and agreed to.
Bill read the Second time.
Bill committed to a Committee of the whole Council pursuant to Standing Order 43(1).
THE BANK OF TOKYO-MITSUBISHI (MERGER OF SUBSIDIARIES) BILL
Resumption of debate on Second Reading which was moved on 10 January 1996
Question on the Second Reading of the Bill proposed, put and agreed to.
Bill read the Second time.
Bill committed to a Committee of the whole Council pursuant to Standing Order 43(1).
Committee Stage of Bills
Council went into Committee.
BANK OF TOKYO-MITSUBISHI BILL
Clauses 1 to 5, 7, 10, 13, 15, 17 and 18 were agreed to.
Clauses 6, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14 and 16
DR DAVID LI: Mr Chairman, I move that the clauses specified be amended as set out under my name in the paper circulated to Members.
The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Bill 1995 is a private Bill. Both the English and Chinese texts of the Bill were originally based on similar Ordinances previously enacted in Hong Kong. However, the accuracy of the Chinese text of legislation in Hong Kong has been the subject of constant scrutiny and improvement on the advice of the Bilingual Laws Advisory Committee. As a result, standarization, accuracy and consistency will be achieved in the usage of terms and expressions and their respective legal meanings in all legislation in Hong Kong. On the recommendation of the Attorney General's Chambers and the Legal Service Division of the Legislative Council Secretariat, some terms and expressions in the Chinese text of the Bill as read in this Council during its First Reading on 10 January 1996 should be amended. The proposed amendments are to achieve accuracy in translation and to make the Chinese rendition of legal terminology consistent with existing bilingual Ordinances.
There are totally 11 proposed amendments to the Bill. Apart from the major amendments mentioned above, the other proposed amendments are moved to correct technical errors in translation or printing.
Mr Chairman, with these remarks, I beg to move.
Proposed amendments
Clause 6
That clause 6(a) be amended, by adding "砆" before "".
That clause 6(h) be amended, by deleting "快猭".
Clause 8
That clause 8 be amended
(a) in the heading, by deleting "癶ヰ褐" and substituting "筍褐".
(b) by deleting "癶ヰ褐" wherever it occurs and substituting "筍褐".
That clause 8(2) be amended, by adding "of" after "any provident fund".
Clause 9
That clause 9(3) be amended, by adding "" before "翠" where it twice occurs.
Clause 11
That clause 11(2) be amended, by deleting "" and substituting "".
Clause 12
That clause 12(2)(a) be amended, by deleting "咎帝" and substituting "咎虑".
That clause 12(2)(f)(ii) be amended, by deleting "锣" where it secondly appears and substituting "玂靡".
Clause 14
That clause 14(b) be amended, by deleting "簿锣┪锣ぉ" and substituting "簿锣锣ぉ".
Clause 16
That clause 16 be amended, by deleting "Θミ猭玥" and substituting "Θゅ猭玥".
Question on the amendmens proposed, put and agreed to.
Question on clauses 6, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14 and 16, as amended, proposed, put and agreed to.
DR DAVID LI: Mr Chairman, as Standing Order 46(8) stipulates that no amendment to the preamble shall be considered which is not made necessary by a previous amendment to the Bill, may I seek leave to move that Standing Order 46(8) be suspended in order that an amendment to the Chinese text of the preamble to the Bill may be considered.
CHAIRMAN: Dr LI, as only the President may give consent to move a motion without notice to suspend Standing Orders, your request cannot be dealt with in Committee. I therefore order that Council do now resume.
Council then resumed.
Suspension of Standing Order 46(8).
PRESIDENT: Honourable Members, in Committee, Dr LI has requested my consent to move a motion without notice to suspend Standing Order 46(8). I have examined the proposed amendment to the preamble to the Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Bill. As the proposed amendment relates to the Chinese text only and is therefore technical in nature, I am prepared to give my consent under Standing Order 68 for Dr LI to move without notice the suspension of Standing Order 46(8) so that he may move his proposed amendment. The giving of my consent for Dr LI to move the motion to suspend Standing Order 46(8) should not be taken as my support or otherwise for the proposed amendment. And whether the proposed amendment should be agreed to or not is really a matter for the Committee of the Whole Council to decide.
PRESIDENT: Dr LI, you may move the motion to suspend Standing Order 46(8) now.
DR DAVID LI: Mr President, I move that Standing Order 46(8) be suspended to enable the Committee of the Whole Council to consider an amendment to the Chinese text of the preamble to the Bill.
Question on the motion proposed, put and agreed to
Council went into Committee.
Preamble
DR DAVID LI: Mr Chairman, I move that the preamble be amended as set out in the paper circularized to Members.
Proposed amendment
Preamble 4
That preamble (4) be amended, by deleting "㏄".
Question on the amendment proposed, put and agreed to.
Question on preamble, as amended, proposed, put and agreed to.
THE BANK OF TOKYO-MITSUBISHI (MERGER OF SUBSIDIARIES) BILL
Clauses 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 13, 15 and 19 were agreed to.
Clauses 2, 5, 7, 10, 11, 14, 16, 17, 18 and 20
DR DAVID LI: Mr Chairman, I move that the clauses specified be amended as set out under my name in the paper circulated to Members.
The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi (Merger of Subsidiaries) Bill 1995 is a private Bill. Both the English and Chinese texts of the Bill were originally based on similar Ordinances previously enacted in Hong Kong. However, the accuracy of the Chinese text of legislation in Hong Kong has been subject to constant scrutiny and improvement on the advice of the Bilingual Laws Advisory Committee. As a result, standardization, accuracy and consistency will be achieved in the usage of terms and expressions and their respective legal meanings in all legislation in Hong Kong. On the recommendation of the Attorney General's Chambers and the Legal Service Division of the Legislative Council Secretariat, some terms and expressions in the Chinese text of this Bill as read in this Council during its First Reading on 10 January 1996 should be amended. The proposed amendments are to achieve accuracy in translation and to make the Chinese rendition of legal terminology consistent with existing bilingual Ordinances.
There are totally 17 proposed amendments to the Bill. Apart from the major amendments mentioned above, the other proposed amendments are moved to correct technical errors in translation or printing.
Mr Chairman, with these remarks, I beg to move.
Proposed amendments
Clause 2
That clause 2(1) be amended, in the definition of "穨叭" by deleting "the".
Clause 5
That clause 5 be amended, by deleting "赣场だ".
Clause 7
That clause 7(f) be amended
(a) by deleting "︽".
(b) by deleting "〆仓" and substituting "〆癠".
That clause 7(g)(ii) be amended, by deleting "赣蝗︽" and substituting "狥蝗瓣悔".
That clause 7(h) be amended, by deleting "快猭".
Clause 10
That clause 10 be amended
(a) in the heading by deleting "癶ヰ褐" and substituting "筍褐".
(b) by deleting "癶ヰ褐" " wherever it occurs and substituting "筍褐".
That clause 10(2) be amended, by adding "讽" before "Θ".
Clause 11
That clause 11 be amended, by deleting "ぉ耴妮", "┪耴妮" and "の耴妮" and substituting "锣耴" in each case.
That clause 11(2) be amended, by adding "ネ" before "ヴ︙兵ゅ".
Clause 14
That clause 14(2)(a) be amended, by deleting "簿锣㎝" and substituting "锣琵".
That clause 14(2)(f) be amended, in the definition of "锣" by deleting "锣" where it secondly occurs and substituting "玂靡".
Clause 16
That clause 16(a) be amended
(a) by deleting "┮砏﹚" and substituting "τēぃ篶Θ".
(b) by deleting "潦" and substituting "Μ潦".
That clause 16(b) be amended, by deleting "簿锣┪锣ぉ" and substituting "簿锣锣ぉ".
That clause 16 be amended, in the Chinese text, by deleting paragraph (c) and substituting
"(c) ぃΘ笻は窽ゎ琵籔空┪兵ン┪".
Clause 17
That clause 17 be amended, by deleting "assignment of" and substituting "assignment or".
Clause 18
That clause 18 be amended, by deleting "Θミ猭玥" and substituting "Θゅ猭玥".
Clause 20
That clause 20(2) be amended, by deleting "や沮ㄖ某碞穨叭┮莱" and substituting "沮ㄖ某や穨叭".
Question on the amendments proposed, put and agreed to.
Question on clauses 2, 5, 7, 10, 11, 14, 16, 17, 18 and 20, as amended, proposed, put and agreed to.
Council then resumed.
Third Reading of Bills
DR DAVID LI reported that the
BANK OF TOKYO-MITSUBISHI BILL
had passed through Committee with amendments. He moved the Third Reading of the Bill.
Question on the Third Reading of the Bill proposed, put and agreed to.
Bill read the Third time and passed.
DR DAVID LI reported that the
BANK OF TOKYO-MITSUBISHI (MERGER OF SUBSIDIARIES) BILL
had passed through Committee with amendments. He moved the Third Reading of the Bill.
Question on the Third Reading of the Bill proposed, put and agreed to.
Bill read the Third time and passed.
ADJOURNMENT AND NEXT SITTING
PRESIDENT: In accordance with Standing Orders, I now adjourn the Council until 2.30 pm on Wednesday, 6 March 1996 for the 1996-97 Budget sitting. In the meantime, I would like to wish all Members and Public Officers a happy Chinese New Year. Kung Hei Fat Choy be that with money or with talents.
Adjourned accordingly at Ten o'clock.
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