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beral party. It has certainly a strange step to invite practicability. As they are disposed of, and the inen in join⚫ Government to be carried on with field cleared of other abuses, the grievance at fr out coercion, who had lost their places in mainland's role will occupy undivided attention, and

the further abeyance of the question will be bo jadispensable. If intended time cly 14 complimentery, the proposal was most possible, Bat we must wait that time, nud seould unfortugala, Joral sermed to imply that the gentle

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adjust their opinions on coercion as on corn.

The attack of Mr T. Daucorabe has called from Lord John Russell some explanation of what be intends to do, and not to do. The most important ber declaration relates to Ireland,

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We must confess that Lord Brougham bas all the lities on his side, when he avows that he ted his business and do and the hardest de- mand on credibility that Lord Grey has ever made is conveyed in the usertion that Lord Brougham at if gras peculiarly and specially his busi- Inow what if nes and duty to know

But let us give Lord Brougham's rejoinder

The noble ear! had stated that he ought to have done that under the circumstances which the noble ear! was himself unable to do, viz: pass an act of parlament under circumstances which it was im possible to do : that is, to pass no ect when he was, as the noble earl was himself now, in a minority in that house. And what would have happened if he had brought in a bill on the subject Why, it would have been thrown out. But be should not have ap proved of any bill of the kind, for the thought that 10,000 a year as af and proper Salary of the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench, and he should persist in calling it so; and those who chose to make a change, and also to say queendom, and sol kingdom, miglu do sa'

knek a solicited could as readily re-model and rot of the cabin before medding with the The subject next in interest in Lord Job Ros sell's speech was that of the English franchis and the doctrine of finality, which, as we have often stated, was not Lord John Russels, Lord Althorpe's His lordsihp explains that objection was and is, not to amendments of the present system, but to any scheme of representat. superseding the Reform Bill. Much may certain be done in the way ad improvement witha p frame of the Reform Bill, and the completion cit according to the design will strengthen the m for accomplishing whatever more may remain

Lord John Russell expatiates on the wisdom i reating satisfied with settlements of questions, but this involves the petites principai, the whole point in dispute being whelber the thing be a scthent or nol

Sir Robert Feel recommended his chang scale of three years ago as a settlement, hot and John Russell rofused so to accept it, and invited agiletion to upset the so-called settlemet last X vember. But we are mos discouraged by these ad ferences. We have great faith in the force of perience and truth and believe that every cause that ought to succeed will ultimately succceed. Wa have seen many good objects retarded, obstructed for a time, but never finally defeated; and in wit has been done after many a long uphill struggle wa have the best warrant for the future

Whatever fault may be found with Lord Joha not imputable to him. He is not for taking people Russell's declaration, want of frankness is cecandy by surprise, or for suffering them to deceive then- selves. Indeed, to guard against any possible ma

what may be unpopular in his purposes than us take of his intentions, he has laid more stress on designs which may be acceptable to all.

I now say that retain my opinions with respect to the Protestant Church, and with respect to to- When he tells us that with man Catholic endowments but I do not think that, ledge was Lord Brongham'e coy, it is nucessory That I should urge these opinions si artangements, wo implicitly believe the present moment, for I should be doing that ever douba Lord Grey's statements which I must confess at the present moment to be but when he contends that Lord Brougham must impraticablo. I boliays that with respect to what

some have proposed, viz, the destruction of the Pra-be dow formed of the facts, because it was his business and his duty to be so, he raises a strongestant Church in Ireland, there could be no worse or more fatal moasare santioned by parliament. presumption against his own assertion.

(Hear, hear.) I believe that it would be politically injurious, because I believe that many of the test loyal in Ireland, many of those the most attached to the connection with this country, would be alienated by the destruction of that church, to which they are fondly altached (Hoar, heas.) I believe that in a religious war; that there would be that which does not ai present prevail the most violent and rebement attack on the Roman Catholic cell- gion; and that the Roman Catholics themselves would be the first to complain of the destruction of the Protestant Church, (Hear, hear.). Can you found or endow the Roman Catholic Church 1: I is quite evident from Mr Pin's speeches, and the memoranda left by his friends, that he was of opinion that it was possible to endow or to make some provision for the Roman Catholic Church by My belief is, that if Mr Pitt had carried the state. that measure, ho, would have carried a measure conducive to the welfare of Ireland, to the main tenance of the union, and to the peace of the United Kingdom. (Hear, hear.) In conformity wap-ms opinion I gave my vote in 1825, twenty- The last is one of those hits which Mrs Shipslop our years ago, in favour of a motion made by Lard Every F. Egerton, now the Earl of Ellesmere, who mo always honours with a marry come up.” one feels that a disputant who says queendom instead ved at a provision be made for the maintenace of kingdom must have the worst of the argament: of the Roman Catholic Church. But what do 1 But even though Lord Brougham says kingdom in- find at this moment? I see, generally speaking stead of queendom, we cannot follow his reasoning that the Church of England, that the dissenters of that because the majority of the Lords were with Faughand, that the Established Church of Scotkud, that the Free Church of Scotland, that the Establish- him against the re luction of the Chief Justices" sa iaries, he was right in acquiescing in the irregular, en Church in Ireland, that the Protestant Associe-Taylor, on the banks of the Rim Grande, has proc much condemned arrangeinem of withdrawing the tion is Ireland, and lastly, that the Roman Catholics ed by no means decisive. The Mexicans baie re matter from the cognizance and legislative judgment of Ireland themselves, are all schöment in oppsibe treated, have abandoned the low grounds but they te such a plan. I received only this morning e still keep possession of the table livel, and seem dis

termined to defend all die appton histoi of the House. According to his own statement,le sat quielly and silently on the wooliaack while bis bro- placard from Edinburgh. in which the Roman

gar: afford every facility for vera olm, a kind of Catholica of Edinburgh declared that they would thega of the King's Beach and Common Pleas were undergoing a robbery the most scandalous, ward of resist to the utmost of their power any plan for the warfare, too, in which Mexicans stated. The American general effully weret at the bi-k Who seems a ve y ahla dangerous example in his judgment, and when the payment of the Roman Catholic elergy. I cannot The subject is thus treated as a branch of the pro-cry of thieres from bis lips would at once have see, then, that that is a measure which I am bound, coromander, shows

consistently with my duty, to bring under the Lective cause. There is imminent danger of cheap delivered them.

consideration of the house, and I see some kind Chief Justices under the new tariff, and is quite Lord Campbell observes that this confession re-

minds him of a cerisin Pape who passed sentence of more favourable disposition towards it on the scares one to think that for more than a dezer years

part of the people: I should say, if that mesure the laws have been administered in the Courts of ¦ upon himself judico me cremari is more like the Westminster at one and two thousand a gear below case of a vicious old beldam who sets fire to her

or any other measure were negent, that, though

the statue price.

own petticoats in order to fire the house. Lord; impracticable, I night still be found, by my duty to the Crown, to propose it and resign office if t Grey took the proper step of rolling the barridan

The attempt is a pretty should not carry it; but I must confess that with roughly in the carpet. good specimen of what may be expected from respect to ecclesiastical questions in Ireland, admi same quarter, and it proves the fact beyond a doubting as I do that neither the state of the Protant that the first proceeding apun the formation of the establishment, as affecting the Roman Catholice, is present Government was sot to make brilliant suchctory to my mind, yet I do see that there is ers" iu a dowager Ex-Chancellor. --Ibid, July 18. not that cause of urgency that any imineliate moe Bures need be proposed with respect to them. There are many questions which are more beneficial to Ireland, and more practicable, and therefore I'do not see the necessity of urging forward those quest ions which I confess to be impracticable.”

ng to a mos improper, st unconstitutional pro place at that time and I do e for it, that of allow offices of Lord Clef Justice to whom the act of parliament gives a salary of 10,000 a year, which Lord Tenterden cejoyed dur ang his life an urrangement to bo made with the consent of your lordships, who ought not to have consented, by which arrangement the salary was reduced to 8.0001 year*** bave hitherto refrained from bringing the subject before your lord hips, though always wishfal to call attention to it, because I was entreated not to introduce it by my noble and learned friend Lord Denman, who re- presented to me the pain which any discussion on the point would cause him, and the motives to which a reference to it might be attributed. A judge more utterly beyond all possibility of being infinanced by such considerations never existed, and a caring less about money than the prosent Lord Chief Jos tics is not to be found in the whole dominions; but that is no reason why I should abstain from matic. ing the subject now, when there may be a repetition of the same traffic--and Caltech no invidious mean ing to the word "

Lord Broughsan seriously impeaches himself when he tells us that he refrained from noticing and redressing this yart wrong at the particular desire of the princionl sufferer. Every one knows the do licacy of Lead Brougham, but, famous as he is for delicacy this was no case for it. The patie daty by Lord Brougham's shoring, was absolute and peremptory, and precisely because Lord Denman is so notoriously superior to any sordid consideration. his friend could, without fear of an unworthy con- atruction or suspicion, have treated of his case, and what was das to the office, though not claimed by Is possessore k na

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LORD JOHN RUSSELL'S DECLARATIONS. The complaint of Mr E. Deniscu that the oded interest is not sufficiently represented was well answered by Lord John Russell:-

We do not concur in all these views. We do not believe that the eversion of the Church of the

Lord Brougham's charge against himself la, first, of neglect of duty, and next of misprision of wrong of sanction of a bad precedent, of conniving at a practice liable to corrupt uses, merely to oblige a personal friend. And this inculpation, extending over a period of more than a dozen years, he strains to the utmost, merely to make a matter of quarrel with the new ministry. Never before was a cham. pon seen rolling himself in the dit as the prepara tive to taking the field, and investing himself with a panoply of mire. Gord Grey, however, was not for refraining from handling him with a pair of tongs, but, like a saint of old, grappled the most flexiblege their functions-it will be according to the mode-removal of the yoke of Ireland is at present impos feature of the versatile arch enemy, and held nim

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"I happened that in 1830 a committee had been appointed in the other house, of which his noble friend Lord Ashburton was chairman, which revis ed the salaries of all the government officers of state, and it recommended that the salaries of many should be redused, and while the incomes of some judicial afficers were reduced, others were raised prospectively hen a Facancy occurred in the

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For our own parts, the points on which wediffr from the Premier's views do not at all unseule så abala our expectations of a grval animat of gend from his administration. Let it have a fair trial au fair play and judge of it by its management of the public business and practicable reforms.--Ilid.

THE MEXICAN WAR.

The Tory of the American geser,

of advancing into the enemies' country is not easy, for he le sedulously rastering a marshalling, forces, providing benets of transport, and making every preparation for an arduous enterprize. the other hand. Paredes, the President of the repatis lic, he marched with all the forces on which he can rely to the support of the army around Moni rey, and on the brisk of the table land. If we poste remain firm, and skillfully make use of all the advantages of their position and they seen wret

gan numbers they may screed in repell the attacks of the Americans. Should they suceerl in their acting on the defensive, the Americas would be forced to occupy most unleakly positions in the low lands during the must abcally season, and thus disease would commit more havoc than the Mexican word. It is therefore imperative upon General Taylor to have made his attack, and male it successfully before this. If he be not master of Monterey, his best policy would be a retreat 16

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We do not indeed, augur American defeat. But the Mexicans will have had every advantage for en- suing contests that they could have desired-adven tages which they seemed to wait for on the fin Grande And if they should now prove on waiting, it would be wise of Paredes of once to submit, sed CROSE General Taylor the trouble of prosecuting the war to the gefes of the capital

We have heard enough, and more than enough, en the one side of the importance of the landed minority in Ireland, would be politically injurious, his shipping interest, and how exclusively its interests ought to

mor that it would be the commencement of a rete Least of all do we believe that it would be considered; and, on the other hand, that the glous war.

altenete the Protestants, who, being for The most manufacturing districts of Lancashire and York.

ty, are bound shire are hereafter to govern the coun. For part a propietary body, and a minority, myself, I deny the justice of either plan or principle by every tie of interest and sympathy to England, In Scotland, history records none of those results I hold myself that pot for land, not for commerce or for manufactures, but for the benefit of the whole that Lord John Russell anticipates in Ireland from people of the united empire, the Ministry ought to the overthrow of a Church not the Church of the be constituted hear, hear), and it will be according people. Differing from Lord John Russell as to to the manner in which the Ministers shall dischar what is desirable or not desirable, we agres that the sible. The reduction of it, the abolition of the part utterly sinecure, and the adjustment of the est ublishment to the strict wants of the Protestant population, is what! Lord John Russell would we complish if he had the power which he regards us impracticable in the present and therefore postpones tre itical, which are happily more eest!

The Irish Churcs question, then, pretty much is the com prars ago. The abolition art, and as unders The parallel to ed to the Mu

in which they can answer to their high trust, Abat their conduct must be judged, and not by any part

culst compulation as to how much income one gentlemen may receive from land, or hay far an other, who happens to hold the situation of Lord Chancellor, has been all his life connected with the profession of the law."

The landed interest was certainly strong enough The Peel Administration, but what did at avail, except perhaps to facilitate the surrender of the of which it was supposed conservataye ? Mr Denisoproposal would be at best of that kind proverbially described as oli lung the door when the steen 18 stolen, but intrich the door in question was no sategun! rhatever for the

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It does not atall appest that the mediation of Fag- land will be accepted. Any arrangement mado un such auspices would be decried by the Ame rican republic, and would be unpopular even with better classes, since the authority of mediation non- veya kind of right of future interference, should the conditions be afterwards broken through or set aside. But great anxiety seemed to exist at Wal- Inglon not to leave the settlement of peace or proSE- cution of wat opgether in the hands of a victorieus eneral Mr MDuhe, as head of the committee of foreign relations, had busied himself in drawing out

would be advisable to accept from such terms 28,1 or grant to the Mexicans, so that, at whisterer singe the latter might show an inclination to submit, shete would be no need of the delay of referring to go- vernment at home, the general in command being waded beforehand with full instructions and in- To The Whigs still kept singing the bur of the war expenses in the ears of the people d of Congress, and Air Webster's declaration, thos war was already costing hilfa million of dollars

conveyed y metiring of the pithy and impres kely to be universally felt and understood, to the packets and intelligence of all,

ver com and costoins laws; and of the Oregon treaty bad angulurly (thoughts, even in Abe violent pripts. quite aground, and the Farwesters tened A general wish perrades Beast Boine alteration in the nol for the expenses of the war, there so been of importance. But as meet all peoniary exigencies The paramount necessities of precluding any revision or A monication there, duckies olvne-third of the Als was more than 150 e1 prebni. ---Ibu.

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