TNAG-2951-FCO40-4228-Hong-Kong-visa-free-travel-for-British-Nationals-(Overseas)--1993 — Page 97

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Your reference: K 342/11

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GVM 341/91

4 August 1993

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1. Thank you for your letter of 9 July to Andrew Morris (which unfortunately did not reach us till 4 August). Jean-Francois Terral, my opposite number, roughly, at the Quai, dropped in on 2 August. I enclose a copy of Ron Sindon's minute of 3 August recording what he said - mostly, as you will see, about Schengen. I took Terral out to lunch afterwards, and he added (mainly) what follows. He said that he wanted to talk frankly, so grateful if recipients would respect that.

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Schengen. He hoped he had made it clear that he saw the UK as a valuable ally of France in the visa field; should understand that when "Schengen went à douze", there but we would be very limited scope for changing arrangements which had been so painfully worked out, and should be up and running by then. Would we, for example, be able to accept the Schengen vignette? I said that my understanding was that the EFC and Schengen texts on external controls were compatible if not identical, so there should, in principle, be no problem. He was less sure about the parallelism, but, as he had said earlier, had not looked closely at the EFC. We agreed that making political considerations override technical ones risked causing the wheels to come off the wagon, as they just had in the ERM.

Wasn't it German Ceme-al commany, surely? Bunk required to be suraged by French polinical arguments

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Appeals. Schengen (like the EFC) was silent on this.

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for dropped them in it! would be interesting to see what would happen if someone who

had been refused a Uniform Visa tried to appeal through the national system of the country whose Embassy had made the refusal. They might also, or alternatively, take it to the ECJ, who might well agree to hear it not a welcome development.

EFC. He was not hopeful about the Gibraltar impasse being unblocked. The same national pride which had made

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