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to know about that part of the world. KANGOLD: Using all traditional methods? PARK! And a few new ones as well, I hope."

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MANGOLD: Parliamentary accountability will also mean MI6 revealing something about its active operations -- dirty tricks--- or disruptive actions as the service calls them euphemistically. These range from hacking into financial secrets inside the computere of drug dealing money launderers to something far more subtle:

MANGOLD: "HOW good is the service at what it calls disruptive action which we used to call covert action?

PARK: Very good. If only because once you get really good intelligece

about any group you are able to learn what the levers of power are and what each man fears from another and what each man is capable, will credit another man with being capable of doing. It's all a matter of inside knowledge,.. I

think..

MANGOLD: What do you mean by that? I think I know what you mean. Can you make it more explanatory?

FARK:Well um...

MANGOLD: You destroy things from the inside - is that what you are saying? FARK: You set people against one another. They destroy each other, you don't destroy them.

MANGOLD: Right you say A is sleeping with B's wife and..

PARK: What a pity so-and-so is so indiscreet. Not much more. Of course there are much more sophisticated operations than that but that's roughly the sort of thing.

MANGOLD: What kind of sophisticated operations?

PARK: Ah that I couldn't possibly tell you,"

Studio outro (MUST):

Tom Mangold's special report on MI6 ---"On Her Majesty's Secret Service." tonight on Panorama, BBC 1 at 9.30

Optional extra bolt on:

MANGOLD: Not only has Lady Park been given Cabinet Office clearance to talk publicly but so has Six Percy Cradock, until last year the Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, and the man who effectively ran Whitehall's intelligence machine. We still don't know how efficient or effective MI6 is or what its true role is in a post-cold war environment should be. Why does the British taxpayer foot the bill for a global intelligence corvica.

Sir Party Cradock has no doubts:

CRADOCK: "In the nature of things intelligence successes are unsung; it's often the things that don't happen, the terrorist bomb that doesn't go off, the international treaty that goes through smoothly, the thoughts of aggression that become second thoughts and are never acted upon; intelligence is a ceaseless underground struggle to protect British" interests and the fact that in the end, in a dangerous world, we are still fairly stable, fairly secure, is in part because of the intelligence machine.”

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