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(Mr Maude) I can tell Mr. Rowlands that there is nothing in the
accepted international practices which distinguishes and says it is
acceptable to carry out these exercises at one time of the day or night and
not at another. It is the way in which it is carried out that is important
and accepted international practices allow for the minimum use of force
because, if you exclude the use of force in all circumstances, it is simply
an open invitation to those who are the subject of this process to resist
because they know by resisting they can avoid being sent back. The
Committee will know that in probably 999 cases out of 1000 force is not
used and does not need to be contemplated, but it is the fact that
international practices accept that minimum force can be used where
necessary that makes this whole process, which is essential to countries
right across the world, work. That is why it is necessary.
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Chairman
Minister, as you see, there are obviously differences of
feeling in this Committee about the methods used. I think the figures you
have shown us, if we measure by those, mean the policy must be judged an
unqualified success. The numbers have dropped in the spring months by an
enormous amount. Just a final question on that: is there any evidence
that people have been seen to be leaving Vietnam as migrants and going
elsewhere, those thousands who did not come to Hong Kong?
(Mr Maude) Yes, there is some evidence that influx into some of the
other first asylum countries has increased, especially the flow to
Indonesia, but other ASEAN countries as well, which is why there is the
growing concern that the policy of first asylum, which is the absolute
linchpin of the Comprehensive Plan of Action, may be under threat. I think
it would be regrettable if it were to be discontinued, but I think the
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