Remarks included the following:-
No prospects of promotion with or without the agreement contract expatriate officers have none by definition I don't foresee a career here will become clearer with time no prospects as I am an agreement officer any way
we are a short term stop gap – the present system adversely affects my prospects localisation at all costs minimises prospects
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a) before 1997
GROUP
YES%
NO%
DNK%
TOTAL
P42-
52.3
38.2
9.1
55
P43+
70.0
23.0
7.0
100
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the policy of
Average
63.9
28.4
7.7
155
my future
A42-
50,0
44.2
5.8
154
A43+
65.8
27.6
6.6
76
A?
56.8
40.5
2.7
37
Average
55.4
39.0
5.6
267
Overall Average
58.5
35.1
6.4
422
b) after 1997
GROUP
YES%
NO%
DNK%
TOTAL
P42-
44.8
41.4
13.8
87
P43+
30.8
51.9
17.3
52
Average
39.6
45.3
15.1
139
A42-
26.9
59.6
13.5
156
A43+
23.9
59.7
16.4
67
A?
18.4
68.4
13.7
38
Average
24.9
60.9
14.2
261
Overall Average
30.0
55.5
14.5
400
as an
prospects are overseas the agreement does not discriminate but it is doubtful if I will have a fair deal no hope whatsoever after 1997 promotion prospects with the 'dead men's shoes' system are abysmal anyway, they could hardly be adversely affected at all – there will be preference given to locals for promotion before 1997 and afterwards there will be no careers for expatriates localisation would have happened anyway, 1997 will expedite this little chance of promotion anyway officer with a professional qualification in short supply locally I should think my prospects remain as before for the next 13 years, if I'm still here in 1997 I would hope to be employed at a senior level in which case my prospects may not be so good bound to be positive discrimination in favour of locals the expatriate is a second choice in fluctuating market conditions in the private sector a greater number of local professionals will enter the civil service to "weather the storm" the HK Government can terminate my contract at any time, what kind of prospect is that there will be a tendency to discourage expatriates the whole object of the Chinese is to gain control, some expatriates will still be needed (used) but without the privileges we formerly had I'm too old whats left of it - I stand to be made redundant in my early 50's with possibly a pension that will be worthless and little prospect of continuing my career as expatriates soon to be discriminated against when it comes to further training such as the senior staff course many will have to think long and hard about whether they want to stay and find out - I am faced with an artificial barrier to promotion which is contrary to my conditions of employment, no amount of compensation can adequately recompense for a disrupted career patronising assurances from senior government officials are not reassuring more likely that my career will either stagnate or I shall be invited/encouraged, though not forced, to leave bound to be a "knock on" effect if top posts are not available - I will return to UK all locals will take top jobs this will have an effect downwards.
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10. DOES THE DRAFT AGREEMENT GUARANTEE THAT YOUR CONDITIONS OF SERVICE WILL BE MAINTAINED?
(a) before 1997
(b) after 1997
Again the response shows that those most likely to be affected are the most dubious. The oldest groups responded yes with conviction before 1997 and no with conviction for after 1997. The youngest agreement group were not strongly convinced prior to 1997 and felt more strongly that for after 1997 conditions of service were not guaranteed. The youngest permanent and pensionable group thinks that conditions of service will be maintained, with less conviction for after 1997. Many in the oldest groups understandably did not answer this question for after 1997.
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conditions of
As far as para 26 of GF 341 allows service likely to be changed in the near future despite the agreement it appears to, but interpretation is important unlikely to be expatriates employed on contract after 1997 what about leave and passages
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no change there is no guarantee for agreement officers conditions of service can be changed at any time OK in the short term conditions of service depend on promotion at least the agreement says it does in words not deeds expatriate civil servants will be cut down to size see para. 3 Annex 1V my conditions of service are being degraded now - intention is stated but this is not a guarantee market conditions will apply surely my conditions of service are guaranteed by my agreement life style may have to change, but why not there seems to be some ambiguity – looks doubtful after 1997 - clarification needed service conditions can be made intolerable by any administration conditions of service are tenuous locals will get plum positions annual pay adjustments will be cut some form of guarantee should be forthcoming at least until 1997 it is not the appropriate document to do this we shall have no need of AECS after 1997 – only promises by politicians deteriorating economic conditions will have serious indirect implications · nearer 1997 a backup to the agreement is needed to guarantee payments of pensions and compensate for loss of office if this arises arrangements should be spelt out in sub- sidiary agreements such as a Public Officers Agreement the Draft Agreement will have an impact on conditions of service before 1997 the use of the word "may" in prominent parts of section IV to Annex I makes no suggestion of guarantees apprehensive of general
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