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Miss V. So referred to the job description she got the impression that both were the same.
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Mr. K. Broadbridge said he did think it was quite different.
Miss V. So referred to the Pay Investigation Unit report of 1973, 49 companies were being surveyed and 41 were qualified in that report. In the Secretarial Class 27 among these companies were surveyed, for Shorthand/ Audio Typist grade there were only 24 companies qualified. In other words, job contents of the 24 companies were found to be identical with Shorthand/ Audio Typists without one exception.
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Mr. K. Broadbridge said, "Yes." It was important that the Pay Investigation Unit found the work was comparable to that of the Shorthand/ Audio Typists in 1973 and Stenographers in 1976.
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Miss V. So said, again, those 27 companies were being surveyed in 1976, but i the case of 1973, 24 companies were being surveyed. She asked why there were only 17 companies were being surveyed in 1976 for the purpose of Shorthand/Audio Typists.
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Mr. K. Broadbridge said he had mentioned that earlier. Talking about the Pay Investigation Unit report why they did not find quite so many companies in 1976 was that the situation changed in the companies. They had not got people as Stenographers or the duties of the people were sufficient to make. Perhaps, comparable to Personal Secretaries rather than Stenographers in the Government, that was the reason for the smaller number for them being. employed in the 1976 Pay Investigation Unit report.
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Miss V. So referred to job comparison, she quoted the Productivity Centre report, page 2, under the heading of Scope of Survey Identificetion of Comparable jobs for the Survey, which read as follows: "In order to ensure comparability of jobs and to identify a "rate-for-the-job" for the various categories of personnel surveyed, simple job specifications and descriptions were used in the survey. The job specifications and descriptions of selected posts in commerce and industry were prepared on the basis of the "International Standard Classification of Occupations" published by the International Labour Organization of the United Nations, with slight modifications to fit in with the employment structure in commerce and industry in Hong Kong."
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Miss V. So then referred to the above paragraph and it said in the report the similar job description must be being used and it was being set down according to the International Labour Organization and so Miss V. So said that there should not be any doubt on the job description used by the Productivity Centre report, at the same time, the companies surveyed were also the leading commercial enterprises and public utilities in Hong Kong. So the Official Side should not have any doubt on the Productivity Centre Report concerning job description.
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Mr. K. Broadbridge said he thought rightly the Froductivity Centre is taking general survey was a very similar one but not too precise. Job description that laid down by the International Labour Organization, it differed from the Fay Investigation Unit report, whose objectives were to primarily compared each company with the Civil Service and therefore they looked carefully what the Stenographer did and when they went into a company the Senior Executive Officers who were doing the job had fixed their minds on a particular situation of the service and he thought it was reasonable there fore that perhaps to doubt some of the comparisons made by the Productivity Centre, people who were not aware of these fine difference that they had. That was why they thought the Pay Investigation Unit reports were more accurate.
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