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THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS, FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 18rn, 1924,
THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT.
INTERESTING DEBATE IN THE COMMONS.
PALATINATE SEPARATISTS "MASSACRED LIKE DOGS."
ANOTHER OIL. LEASE SENSATION IN AMERICA.
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TARIFF REFORM REJECTED,
The Hou devoted the evening virtually to debating Tariff Reform, on a motion by Mr. Milho advocating the appointment of an expert committee to enquire into the most effective method of dealing with the problem of safeguarding industries, After characteristic arguments for and against Imperial Preference, etc., the motion was rejected by 990 votes to 103, The House then adjourned. GOVERNMENT TO ASSIST EMPIRE
LONDON, February 13th. In the House of Commons, Mr. Stanley Baldwin resumed the debate, and said he Brusted that the Government would most carefully consider the views of the Dominions with regard to the Singapore base. He wished the Government well in its frih negotiations with Francy, and the Premier believed that by sweet rea- sopalienes, we could bend Earope to our will. But swret Pascnableness might be carried to excess without reaping the powards due thereto.-(Cheers) He asked hether the Government proposed to Aumalon the Safeguarding of dustries Act. He was of the opinion that the Government would find it almost earry mut its Russian and he asked what actly meant by
Savist Union and with who were we really going to
unke arrangements. All our Continental sterling.
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debtors were eagerly watching and hoping that we were going to surrender our claims against Rusia, whereupon any hope of collecting our debts from other European countries would disappear. He Sympathised with the Inftiness of afr. MacDonald's speech but felt that a short term of office would prove, a world too hard for Mr. MacDonald's idealism.
MR. ASQUITH ON POPLAR QUESTION.
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DEVELOPMENT.
LONDON, February 13th. In a apeech at Burpley, instancing the the operations of the Trade Facilities Government's determination to speed up Act and a scheme of export credits. Mr. Arthur Henderson said that the Govern- met bad increased the amount guar anteed for trade facilities by five million The Government had confirmed the late Gowroment's decision for a loan
for Kenya ngu Uganda, rai,way construc- tion, half of which would he expended in Britain, while the Colonial Office was examining other large schemes of Empire development.
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FRENCH PLEASURE AND CONFIDENCE.
PARIS February 13th. Oficial circles are most appreciative of Mr. MacDonald' cardial tone towards France and are convinced of his sincerity and determination to appreciate the French viewpoint. They are confident that the practical task of working' out be carried out in a spirit of mutual under standing and conciliation based on the
LATEST, DA BLEŠ,
END OF THE SEPARATISTS.
CROWD ARMED WITH RIFLES,
COBLENOR, February - 13th,
It is reported that ten persons were killed and many wounded at Kaiserslau- tern, where, a crowd armed with Mauser rifles attacked the Separatists.
TOTAL DEATH-ROLL.
BERLIN, February 13th. Everything is quiet at Pirmasens. Two Separatists and one civiline died from wounds, The total death-roll, is 31 Separatists and 9 civilians,
During a Communist demonstration at Stettin yesterday the Communists fired on the police from houses, wounding one. The police returned the fire, killing one Communist and wounding 7
SIX MORE SEPARATISTS KILLED.,
LATER.
Events similar to those at Pirmasens occurred at Badduerkheim in the Pal tinate
The Separatists refused to evacuate the town and a crowd stormed their brad quarters, killing six.
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OBITUARY.
DR. JACQUES, LOEB
NEW YORK, February 13th. The death is
the announerd of famous physiologist. Dr. Jacques Joeb.--- | (Reuter's American Strviço).“
[Dr. Jacques Luch was a member of many physiological societies in Harape and America, and published a large nu ber of scientific works At the time of his death he was a member of the Rocke- feller Institute for Medical Research, New York. Deceased was in his 5th year.]
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[RECTER'S IVERICAN SERVICE ANOTHER US. OIL LEASE SENSATION HITCH IN NOMINATION OF COUNSEL.
WASHINGTON, February 13th.. The report that Fresident Collidge is preparing to withdraw his Domination of Mr. Strawn as the special Government Erench gendarmes intervened and dis counsel in connection with the oilfields persed the crowd. Curfew has been pre-affair has provoked a fresh sensation. It claimed.
is declared the nomination of Mr. Strawn's colleague, Mr. Pumerene will also possibly be withdrawn, Opposition to both nominations developed in the morning papers in which it is stated the withdrawal of one of them is due to the Fact that the nominee is connected with the directorates of two Standard Oil banke.
MOBBED
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BY ENRAGED CROWDS
BERLIN, February 13th. It bad never been doubted that the numbered once the support hitherto ac separatists days in the Palatinate were corded them be withdrawn, and the events at Pirmasens are regarded as a warning to Separatists elsewhere to fade out of the limelight as quickly as possible. The accounts of yesterday's affair depict most blood-thirsty scenes.
Separatists
armed with rifles and grenades, to the number of forty barricaded a building and refused repented demands by attackers to corne out. The crowds swelled to enormous dimensions, armed with all available weapons like axes, sticks and knives. Being unable to break down the barricades, they set Era to the building with benzine, then forced their way into
BRITAIN'S FOREIGN TRADE. A GENERAL INCREASE LAST YEAR.
Preliminary totala of Britain's overseas
trade in 1993, published in the Board of True Journal, show a substantial general increase over those for the previous year, the respective gains. being as follows: Imports. £94.916.680; exports. £47,421,946: re-exports, £14,879.024. The figures com- pare with those for 1913, 121, and 190 as follows:
Mr. Asquith, who followed Mr. Bald wit, approved of the recognition of Russia and wished to know the Govern, ww' attitude towards the Safeguarding of industries Ack "He then made refer the solution of the various questions will including the leader. Schwab, whose body but from the same date the direct trade
Imports. Exports. Relexports. the building and engaged the Separatists 1913 £788,734,730 £525,950,505 £100,566,731 in a hand-to-hand ight until the latter 101 1,085,500,061 703,389,842 106,010,306" ed the Separatists on their exit, and the 1023 1,009,015,583 797,328,058 118,572,004 rrendered. Howls of execration greet 19:22 1,000,005,809 719,507,410 103,684,670 maddened crowd brushed aside the guard and massacred the Separatists like "doga, was thrown into the flames.
of
new cordial atmosphere.
SINGAPORE SCHEME TO BE DROPPED?
LONDON, February 13th. The Labour organ, the Daily iterald, interprets Hr. Ammune's statement as meaning that the very costly and dangerous ·Singapore scheme is to be
tuer to what had happened regarding Poplar, saying, that Liberals regarded the matter as being of capital import arce, Labourites constantly interrupted Mr. Asquith, who declared that the matter did not affect Poplar alone. Mr. Wheatley's action was discouraging med paralysing to other distressed districts which were manfully fulfilling, their -duty. Conservative and Liberal cherrs,
Heclared that the time had corce to reform the chaotic Gevernment of dropped. London and to "reconsider the basis” the Poor Law itself. (Ministerial cheers.) Referring to Mr. Wheatley's rescission of his predecessor's Order, which, imposed surcharges GJ the Poplar Board of Guardians in respect of excessive out- relief, Mr. Asquith said in, the plainest and most unequivocal terms that unless the Government could are its
way to re- consider the Minister of Health's action there was not the slightest chance of that administrative not receiving the counten ance and approval of the Commons (Lond Conservative and Lilwral cheers)
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DISCUSSION.
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BRITISH NAVAL DEFENCE
COLONEL AMERY FAVOURS SINGAPORE.
Separatists in the streets. Several were There followed a manhunt for the
found and shared the fate of their com- adi. The French troops remained per fectly neutral, and it was not before five in the morning that French and Maroc can reinforcements arrived în motors and surrounded the herning building.
An affray betwren Separatists and the populace at Kaiserlautern today resulted in two being killed.
The Separatists at Zweibruecken, hear ing of the events at Pirmas, hastily quitted the town.
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INCREASED PRICE OF TIN
IS THERE A CORNER
Loxbox, February 13th. The fact that the cash price of tin yesterday was over fer per tan, being rise of £4 on the year, is leading to talk of a possible corner in tin.
LONDON, February 13th. Lient.-Col the Rt. Hon. L C. Amery, Colonial Institute lecture or the naval defence of the Pacific, said he re- gretted that the Government had stopped the present work and commitments at Singapore, but was glad to hear the ques tion was being carefully investigated, and the final decision would not be taken without consultation with the Dominiona
BANK OF INDIA RATE. Mr. Clynes promised that an opportu would always remain the kernel of the The Imperial Bank of India rate has
affected. He claimed that the battleship
BOMBAY, February 13th. uity would be given later to discuss great complex comprising the fleets of Poplar and kindred subjects of contro the inture, The British feet wouldbeen raised to 9 per cent, versy. The fullest fact would be given ultimately be entirely oil-burping, neces- to the House. He emphasised that the sitating a chain of ail reserves, which was Premier did not intend to treat Russia one great reason for developing Singa-| differently from other countries in the matter of credits. Replying to interrup Fion, he said that the internal conditions
of Russia were beside the point.
The Government wanted to arrange better Trade: relations, and the documents already exchanged between Bussig and
pore.
TIMES" COMMENT ON ADMIRALTY
"SECRETARY'S STATEMENT.
Loxtos, February 14th.
on Mr. C .6.
In a leading artiele
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THREATENED DOCKERS'
STRIKE.. CONFERENCE AGAIN ADJOURNS
LONDON, February 13th. The dockers conference again adjourn
[Yesterday's cables stated
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NEWS.
(THROUGH REUTER'S AGENCY.)
FIGHTING IN SZECHWAN.
PEKING, February 14th. Chinese reports from ichang state that the Northern forces are bombarding Chengtu day and night.
who is fighting with the Northerners, left Tuan Tso Ming, the Kweichow general, Luchow for Chengtu on February 19th.
A foreign report. from Szechuan states that the First and Sixth Szechuan Divi
sions
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were heavily defented by the Twenty-First Northern Division near Tungehuau, which was occupied on Janu-
27th. Sen are advancing from the East and The forces of Generals Tien and Yang
West respectively. The message adds that General Hsiung Koh Wu was în Tungebarn, bait escaped.
PRICE OF JAPANESE LOAN.
NO CAUSE FOR DISSATISFACTION,
LONDON, February 14th, Referring to the reported dissatisfaction in Japan at the price of the new loan, the Times contends that the price is by no means too high in view of the size of the loan owing to the fact that it is not specially secured, and that the Austrian loan, which was specially secured and OF ja tuo uaranteed by the Powers. three points cheaper.
have received distinctly favourable terms. On the other hand, Japan appears to day lower price would have imperiled the success of the loan.
GERMAN EXPEDITION IN MONGOLIA
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Rida, February 14th. It is reported that the German expedit tion which set out to investigate miring possibilities in Mongolia has passed Erga.
JAPANESE LOAN SNAPPED UP.
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LONDON, February 13th. The rush for the Japanese loan, which led to the closing of the lists at noon, is reflected in an unofficial quotation of over; one per cent, premium.
EXCLUSION OF JAPANESE
FROM U.S.
ENDO WORK OF WASHINGTON
CONFERENCE,"
AHEAD OF THE MAIL
TROM INDIAN PAPERS.]
INDIAN EMIGRANTS IN B.C.
LONDON, January 12th,
A Vancouver messago says. Sir Jehangis Hormuji Kothari, who has arrived from the Orient en route to England, in an interview. expressed the opinion that Tadians emigrating to other parts of the franchise Empire were not entitled to expect the He pointed out that they seldom remained to become 'contributing citizens in the new country, but returned to Indin as soon as they had amassed
money,
Sir Jehangir Kothari, Kt.. O.B.E.. was an additional member of the Bombay Legislative Council for Karachi in 19:1. He contributed largely to Im made many gifts to his native city. He wa perial funds during the war and has
great traveller.
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LICENCES FOR, WIRELESS RECEPTION.
LONDON, January 17th.
it was announced in the House of Com- mons in reply to a question that 583,000 Licences had been issued for wireless re- ception to the end of December. Appro ximately 405,000 were granted in the last quarter of 1993.
MR. HEMMERDE, K.C., EXPLAINS.
LONDON, January 20th.
The Labour, M.P.. Mr. Hemmerde, K.
C.. explains in the Saudag Express why s he will not be offered the legal portfolia in Mr. Ramsay MacDonald's Cabinet Mr. Hemmerde states that. Mr. MacDon ald has informed him to that effect definitely and says that Mr. MacDonald- had been advised that the Rench and the Bar would resent the appointment. bec Cause Ur. Hemmerde pleaded the Statute claim in 1920, but Mr. Hemaerde says of Limitations when he resisted at diba he did upon the advice of legal friends. He pleaded the Statute not in order to
erade responsibility, but because he wish- wh to treau gll creditors alike. Mr. Hem- merde complains that Mr. MacDonald, who had long known the facts, gladly availed of bis serviço during the election. campaign.
PARIS SCANDAL:
LONDON, January 22nd. Paris. A scandal involving the majority of leading industrial firms in the devasta- ted areas and abe several officials has been revealed by the discovery of documents compiled in 1917 relating to claims for war loss,
In
claims has been enabled to compare thro
The special enamlolon investigating the with the revised claims made in 1919 and also the final statement in 1921, disclosing damaging evidence of the manner which the claims were inflated,
have been
in bands of the judicial authorities, and affect 18 per cent, of the leading North ern industrini firms.
One ugly feature of the case is the dis from the " appearanes of of the original claims tice to eater the claims in a book in
dossiers
but it was the prac Paris which largely supplies the deficiency.
of officials employed number
in
Last year's totals are inclusive of trade with the Irish Free State-since April 1st,
WASHINGTON, February 13th. Mr. Hughes in a letter to the chairman of Southern Ireland with overseas roun tries is not included. The details of the of the House immigration committee, corrections which should be made in order declares that sections of the immigration to render comparable the figures for 193 restriction measure pending in the House and thuse for earlier years are not yet would exclade Japanese from the conn- available, but it is probable that the total try which is inconsistent with the treaty of imports has been increased, owing to obligations towards Japan, which country the change of laris, by aurusaunately has already drawn attention to the 25.800,000, the total of British exports matter before the State Department.
somewhat over £20,000.000, and the Mr. Hughes letter was promoted by the Immigration Bill submitted to the total of re-exports by about £6,000,000, in the price level in the different years, the proposis of which Mr. Hughes de- Owing to the considerable differences House of Representatives by Mr. Johnson, the aggregate raines shown in the table clares will militate against the Treaty do not reflect areurately the variations in of 1011, and should be eliminated. Mr. the volume of trade. While the tradle of Hughes added: "I believe that such 1991 was valued on the basis of prices netion would largely undo the work of much above, those of the two following the Washington Conference, which so sears, the differences between 1920 and greatly improved our relations with actions. 1023 in respect of price-level were comi-Japan." paratively small.
As a subsitute proposal Mr. Hughes suggested that Japan be placed on the Fame basis as other nations. Telter's American Servico,
NEW FELLOWSHIP OF
THE EMPIRE. PLAN TO AID IMPERIAL TRADE AND EDUCATION,
Great interest, sayy a home paper, bas been aroused by the announcement of the formation of the Fellowship of the British Empire Exhibition, of which the Prince of Wales is presilent and first
member.
The object of the Fellowship is to re- cruit enthusinst's throughout the Empiro of all schools of political thought to assist Empire trade and industry. It is expected that those who join the Fellow ship will for years after the exhibition bas closed be reminded by their certi.
ourselves amply provided the necesare Aminon's statement with regard to Singa ed until to-morrow morning that while fiente of membership of their respon....
that no
Recurity on the subject of propaganda, pure, the Time says there He doubted whether the Government reasonable objection to this course can could be expected to regard the Safe be taken: it urges, however, the neces sity for conducting on examination in guarding of Industries Acts as a means of relieving unemployment. He conclud. an open aninded spirit, not with the object ed by hoping to enlist the support of of justifying a preconceived policy, and the social needs. It was impossible for already approved of the gebeme.
[BY COURTESY OF THE "DAILY BULLETIN.''}, BRITISH CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE
" IN CONFERENCE.
EX-ENEMY CONCESSIONS.
SHANGHAI, February 13td. The Conference of the "British Chambers of Commerce in China and of Hongkong was opened to-lay."
The Conference passed a resolution urg- ing the Diplomatic Corps to induce the Chinese Government to give effect to the undertaking to establish municipal govern meat on modern lines in the former evenly Concessions at Tientsin and Hinkow,
OHINESE HOUSE ÒI .........
REPRESENTATIVES.
the
Buy of Liberated Regions will be
I to explain their share in the tran-
Controller has passed fortune during ten
monthservice. Others have received important posts from firms whose claims they had controlled. Charges are
against local politicians.
also
made
THE PREMIER'S
DAUGHTER.
LONDON, January 23rd. The Premier's daughter label, aged twenty, is the youngest chatelaine at No 10, Downing Street. She is at present studying domestic science at King's Col Tege, Loudon.
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ADVERTISEMENT
Losnos, January 24th. the Government's communique which is The Daily Herald, drawing attention to
democratic spirit of the new administy an innovation, says that it has taken the
tion."
Indications exist that Mr. MacDonaki does not intend to overlook the uses of publicity.
POPLAR GUARDIANS' DISPUTE
LONDON, January 24th. Arising out of the disputed charge of
the House in the attempts to deal with points out that the Dominions bave conclusion a much more hopeful spirit signed to further the cause of Imperial cheduled for Friday, when it is expected | 931 sterling, which the Ministry of Pen-
the Government to approach the question
of a capital brvy without national "ap- proval.
INDIAN POLITICS-
was paid,
the conference between the Minister sibilities in this regard. of Labour and representatives of the In connectian with the Fellowship
PIKING, February 13th. dockers and employers adjourned late in there will be instituted various prizes The first meeting of the House of Re the evening without reaching a definite and scholarships. The prizes will be de presentatives after the spring festival in prevailed. It was understood the workers education. The scholarships will be of there will be a trial of strength between would be offered an "immediate increase of £1,000 each, and will be designed, the Wu Ching-lian faction and these gious demands from the Poplar Guardians, shilling a day and a further shilling the case of a young citizen of the United opposed to them on the subject of the threatened to sell the effects within five bailiffs occupied the Clerk's office and later.]
Kingdom, to provide for his settlement Speakership, the former being anxious to in the Overseas Empire, in the case of have Wu Ching-lian return in view of the day unless the ..SINGAPORE NAVAL BASE
DISCOURTEOUS P.W.D
Mr. Edgar Lansbury, Chairman, said young citizen of the Overseas Domin- coming election of a Vice-President.
that.
as now Mr. Whentie was Minister Supplementary questions poured
ions to provide for his University or
of Health aid Mr. F. Roberts was Min- Luxos, February 14th. technical education in the home country. The Assembly rejecteil a renolution. In
ister of Peasions, there was a prospect from all sides in connection with the favour of summoning & representative Public Works Department, Mr. Howard to stay in his (or her) cwn country, and Owing to the alleged discourtesy of the In either case there will be the option
of the Guardians' case being viewed with reply by Mr. Ammon, the Parliamentary convention to prepare a Constitution and Carter, has closed the tomb of Tatase the scholarship thers for a start
Brenter sympathy. Secretary to the Admiralty, as regards submit it to Parliament. the future of the Singapore schemo.” Mr.
In the course of a further debate, Mr. khamen and abandoned the work Ammon stressed that the present Gov- ernment had always contended that ado Patel urged Indian control of the Army but said they wanted the British officers
in
ARMY CONTROL QUESTION.
DeLn, February 13th.
quate reason had not been shown for the and troopis to stay.(Laughter.) very large proposed expenditure, but thought it only right to examine the case for the scheme before announcing its decision. This was being done bat in the
BODSERSO
Colonel Gidrey contended that it was to expect fully responsible Government without a proper Army.
RESIDENCE IN INDIA.
meantime no fresh commitments were entered into. The effects of the recent terrible disaster in Japan. which Com
Detai, February 13th. mander Kenworthy bad said would put
The Council of State has passed an un- Japan out of the running for another official Bill, already adopted by the decade was receiving attention in that Assembly, regulating entry into and re connection. He added that £13,000 had sidence in India of persons domiciled in boen expanded on the scheme to January other British poscossions. The sponsors goth, and the signed commitments totalled contended that the passage of this another £34,000. Linbilties, the extent measure of retaliation, or reciprocity, was of which were at present unavailable, had necessary in view of the treatment of also been incurred on work being carried Indians in the Colonies out, with respect to railways, roads and water. The Dominiona would be con aulted.
BIG LOCKOUT IN NORWAY
CHRISTIANIA, February 13th.
GOLD FRANC ISSUE.
their charges against Wang Keh-ming unntation was appointed to interview
PEKING, February 13th. Recognising their inability to succeed in
On Mr. George Lansbury's suggestion-a will be available only to Fellows or to gold frame issue, members of Farl
Mr. Wheatley.
in life." These prizes and scholarships
nominees of Fellows.
the
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HOME FOOTBALL RESULTS.
Laxpos, February 13th. Following are the results of matches men of all parties. Among others the German Chinese bonds now held by played to-day (Wednesday):-
ment are focussing their attention on BA A large number of messages wishing Minister of Finance and the manager of alleged secret understanding between the anccess to the scheme were received hy a former German bank at Shanghai res the Exhibition authorities from public
FIRST LEAGUE.
Manchester City; 1: Notts Forest, a Sunderland, 2; Aston Villa, 0.
CUP REPLAY:
Newcastle, 6; Derby, 3.
ECOTTISH LEAGUE Kilmarnock, 1; Morton, 3. Hearts, 4; Airdrieonians, 2 Aberdeco, 2; Third Lanark, 2. Clyde, Hamilton, 0. Motherwell, o; Celtic, 1.
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Mr Baldwin emphasised the terrible zisk to the world if Belshevist propaganda. The National Association of Employers NAVY WINS RUGBY MATCH in Asia over born fruit, and the blood has proclaimed a lockout of 12,400 work- shod and misery which would salt if men from February 28th. The lockout Anarchy was called into existence among applies to the breweries, electro-chemical the torming millions of the East (Op and chocolate works, and printing presses, position cheers.}",
exempt the onwspaper offices
LONDON, February 19th. In the Inter-Services" rugge ment, the Navy beat the Air Force by 16
tourna points to 3, at Twickenham.
following have given it their cordial endorsement The Lord Mayor of London, the Lard Provast of Edinburgh, the Lord Mayors of Liverpool, Birming ham, and Newcastle, Viscount Long, Sir Robert Hadseld, Mr. J. R. Clynes, M.P., and Mr. G... N, Barnes, -M.PF.
GLASGOW'S £20,000,000 DEPOSITS.
It is understood that the Government's reply will be a dental of any complicity on the part of Wang Keh-ming,
JAPANESE LOAN CRITICTEM,
OASKA, February 13th.
PAYMENT OF REPARATIONS.
LONDON, January 24th.
The conomic side of the French policy rising's little public attention at home in occupied territory, has attracted sur- seeing that it hide fair to god in rotue thing
like a fundamental change of the
of Versaillen Treaty
the
respondent of The Times,
Cologner-
That the Dusseldorf oral agreement and the various agrestante with dye and The announcement of the terms of the chemical firme were based on clauses of new loan bas elicited sharp criticism from the Treaty compelling Germany to make the Mainichi, which characterises the efforts of the Government as driving the
deliveries gortain
"Clauses of
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is well-known. What is not generally realised is that Frapen lo spite of trade depression, thrift in people into the darkest pit. The accusaris steadily drawing the whole industry Glasgow continues. At the annual meet tion is based on three grounds: (1) The
on reparation whole ant ing of the Savings Bank on December abnormally high rate of interest; (2) the occupied territory to the same net, and
excesively large amount of the loan; and Treaty between the Allies as 27th it was reported that the total (3) the consequent extravaganer in expen the German Government are being siper.. amount standing to the credit of deposi- ditore. posits for the year represented over hankers and business men more favourably which the form have to admit persona”, tors was over £20,000,000, and the de.
imposed contraeta between private firms The announcement has been receiver and the Rhineland Commission under £7,000,000. In the ordinary and special though they urge the judicious employability to make reparation deliveries too. investment departments the amount due | ment of the funds raid E700,000. The necounts open total early out enthusiasm, because the terms aro to depositors showed an increase of fally
France and Helgium All the markets received the news wikke
337,000,
disappointing.
Despite assertions to the contrary it fe fact that British interests are not mes. tioned in there contracts,
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