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STUDE EXCHANGE PROPOSALS,

THE HUNGHONG DAILY

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE,

MR. A. O, LANG NOMINATED TO THE

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.

Prior to the meeting reported else where in our columns, the Chamber of Commerce miet to noininate a representa- tive to the Legislative Council during the Hon. Mr. P. H. Holyoak's absence from the Colony

KOWLOON RESIDENTS AND

THE GOVERNMENT..

FRIDAY, APRIL

SPORT.

INTERPORT · ORICKET."

BUILDING LOANS MOTOR BUSA Shanghai, Capt. E. 1. M. Barrett.

SERVICE-INCREASED RENTALS -ROWLOON HOSPITAL-AUTO-

MATIC FIRE ALARMS... We have received for publication the

has passed between the Kowlson Residents following copies of correspondence which

As-ociation and the lovernment:---

March 3rd, 1921. " SIE,-1 have the honour to inform you that my Committed have instructed me to convey to the Government their express not feel able in present circumstances to sion of regret that the Government does increase the already large amount locked In this connection, I am further under up in advance for building houses. instruction to observe that my Committee have yet to be convinced that the large number of applicants were met of straw who had no possible security to give, and that the Government could find only one applicant for a loan who had made a deinite proposition."

MH. BIRKETT. I would like to pro pose an amendment to Resolutions 8 and 7, un bobalf of the Stack Exchange. In Resolution 6: that fifteen cents" be multituted for twenty cents," and that the following be added to Resolution 7: and that holders of shares be compelled to transfer same into their own namer before receiving any dividends thereon." tap. Mr. POLLOCK: Just to put the munster in form, I beg to second Mr. Bir Lett's amendment. I should say, with

Mr. A. O LANG (Vice-Chairman) pre regard to Clausu 9, that entirely agree": that that clause, even if it were attended sided. He said:-Gentlemen,-This meet, in the most drastic manner, would be ink has seen enlled at the request of wholly unworkable(Applause.) It is the longkong Government to nominate certainly not desirable that, it ang leg sa meniber of this Chamber to serve on bation is to be passed with a view to the Legislative Council during the ab- promoting registration of transfers of sence from the Colony of the Hon. Mr. shares, that such legislation should be P. H. Holyoak. As you are aware, Mr. forced through under the absurd penalties Holyoak left the Colony, yesterday, and Selecio No. 11 of this Bill. That in the chair at this meeting, therefore, all I have to say, air; except just to make devolves, upon me as Vice-Chairman of one remark, if I nay, by way of cor. the Chamber. The requisite notice has rection of what, fell from you as to the been advertised in the papers calling for P date to which the Government adjourned nominations, and the only name put for the second rending. The second reading ward is my own, proposed by Mr. G. T. was taken at an early date because the Edicins, seconded by the Hon. Mr. A. G. Hou. Mr. Stephen and the Blon, Mr. Stephen, and supported by the Hon. Mr. Ho Fock are leaving the Colony for a Holyoak and aiembers of this Committee. time on the 29th ist. We agreed to As you are aware, the proposed Stamp that comparatively short adjournment be. Ordinance comes up for accond rending cause it was understood in fact a pledge on Monday the 25th, and in order was given by the Government-that if the that this Chamber and the commer- to build dwelling-houses, and that, in the unofficial members should desire certain cial community of Hongkong should provisions of the Bill to stand over to a be represented at later date, that desire of the unofficial of the Legislative Council, and the members would be acceded to by the Gar. erament.(Appliuse.) "

Alt. W. D. KENNETT: Is it in order to refer to any clause ret mentioned in

tree proposals?

The CHAIRMAN: Yes.

QUESTION OF PROXIES. Mr KENNETT Then I would like to call attention to Clause 95.

Dr. V. M. O'Hara and Masari, A. W. Hayward and F. L. Wainwright have heen appointed as the Selection Com mittee of the team to represent Shanghai in the laterport match against Hong- kong."

QUEEN'S COLLEGE. OLD HOYS.

The match, staff and Pupils of Queen's College, the Q.C.O.BA., will take place tomorrow at p.m., on the Indian Re

Queen's College -R. E. O. Bird (capt.).. creation Club ground at Sookum po Valley. Teans:

J. S. Curreem. 5. A. R. Ismail, E. T. de Rome. W. Kay, E. J. Ralston, Nishida, A, Butt, A. H. Madar and G. A. Hyder. Reserves:-M. Y. Adal and Tulok Singh,

Q.C.0.2\.-B. H. Tayler (capt:), A. al Arculli, N. A. Bux. G. A. Ve Hall, H. C. Hunt, S. A. Ismail, S. H. Ismail, Wong Pa Keung, D. Rumjahn, Rumjahn and A. H. Rumjahn. Reserves: F. E. A. Rethedios and Douglas Laing,

ENGINEERS AND SHIP- BUILDERS.

ANNUAL REPORT OF THE LOCAL

INSTITUTION.....

I am still further authorised to express the hope that the Government at an early date will find itself in the happy position to renew its generously devised scheme of advancing loans to enable the borrowers Government's allocation of any possible the next meeting available resources, applications from private individuals with tangible security views of members of the Chamber, re-to offer, who have already though un- garsling which a meeting will be held successfully approaches the Government and those of the same category who may immediately after this, meeting is over in future apply to the Government for should be laid before the Government, it financial, accommodations for a similar is necessary that the Chamber now desirable purpose will receive sympathe ngminutes its representative for the tie consideration and satisfaction equally Coune... I will now call upon the pro with any application from that group poser and seconder to support the nomi- which has already been so beneficently

Mr. G. T. EDKINS: I have much plen: gratified.1 have the honour to remain, included in the above total.

sir, your obedient servant,

nation.

Every letter or power of attorney for ure in proposing Br. Lang as repre- the sole purpose of appointing sentative of this Chamber on the Legis proxy' to vote at a meeting shall specify Intive Council 3r. Lang is well-known the day upon which the meeting at

to the community, as senior in a firm which it is intended to be used is to long associated with the business of the be held, and shall be available only at Colony. He is ou many of the boards the meeting so specified and any of companies in the Colony, Vice-Chair- journment thereof."

man of the Chamber of Cominerce, and he It seems to me that the effect of that has had long experience in matters de may be to prevent a general proxy being bated by the Committee of the Chamber given. Now, as you know, many com- of Commerce. I have no hesitation, panies hold meetings ut seven or eight therefore, in commending him to you, and, "days' notice and the effect of this claus I believe you will accept him as entirely would be that no shareholders out of Atted for this nomination.-(Applause.) the tolong could be represented at such, I have much pleasure in proposing Mr.! meeting because no proxy" can be acted Lang as our representative on the Legis- upon which does not specly a date. At [lative Council. present there is a very general prae- Hon. Mr. A. G. STEPHEN: I have much tice for a shareholder to leave a general pleasure in seconding the nomination of proxy with someone. Therefore, there fr. Lang. • must be long notice of the holding of a meeting for a shareholder who is abroad to be represented. This clause means that no one can be represented at ail at such meeting unless he happens to be in the Colony at the moment.

The CHAIRMAN Later on I shall ask you to put that in the form of a re- volution.

ORIMINAL LIABILITY.

Mr. KENNETT: There is one other point Docs this meeting intend to pass without comment the extraordinary change in the law which makes it a criminal offence to omit to stamp a docu- ment, whether without any intent to evade the law or anything of the sort? If you will refer to the Objects and Reasons given by the Attorney General, it puts this very clearly.

It is intended that griminal liability shall attach to the corporate body itself in the former case, and to the person appearing to have the management in the litter case, upon mere failure to xamp In other words, the corporate body in the one case and the manager in the other case, will be hable for the mere omission, apart from any ques tion of intention to evade; or, of guilty kuowledge.

That scenis to be a very startling.in. novation..

Hout Mr. Potteës: 1 quite agree with Mr. Kennett's remarks. The Clause, as it stands, is in a very objectionable form.

Mr. EoKING: I do not hesitate to sup purt what has been said. It is inco ceivable that the measure should be brought in this way. It is going to make business more und tuore difficult. The Bill is conceived, I submit, in the wrong spirit(Applause.)

At the request of the Chinmay, the SECRETARY read the rules relating to voting.

(Sd.) W. JACKSON,

(Hon. Secretary.) The Hon. Dr. Claud Severn, C.M.G..

Colonial Secretary,

Colonial Secretary's Office, Hongkong.

teh March, 1921. SIR-With reference to your letter of March 3rd, I am directed to inforiu you that the Government wherever possible is making advances of money to help build. ing schemes which have for their object the provision of suitable dwellings for Europeans and others of varying income, In this connection I may mention that, in addition to what has been done already, another scheme for providing number of small flats near the ferry pier will be completed with Clovernment assist iance probably by the end of this year while the question of helping persons to build smal houses at Kowloon Tong is under consideration..

report of the Institution of Engineers and Shipbuilders of Hongkong for the year ending 31st December, 1920, shows that the membership at that date was 412. During the year 19 members resigned and 110 new members were elected, while other 53 members who have been absent for some time have not been

During the year 1920, Mr. J. D. Birrell (member) read a

Electric paper on Tractions, illustrated with lantern slides for which he was awarded a gold medal presented by the late A. G. Gordon.

During the year 50 volumes have best added to the Fiction Library at a cost of 8110:45, and 48 volimea have been" pre sented by members Eight volumes have been added to the Technical, Library at a cost of 42.98.

The thinks of the members are due to Mr. J. Millar for the gift of a half plate and Stank Thornton Picard Hand Camera with 3 Plate holders, 1 Rapid Rectilinear lens, view-finder and chang ing bag to be rafted, the proceeds to be adevoted to the purchase of books for this

Library.

I should be glad if you would bring to The motion was carried with applause. The CHAIRMAN: Gentlemen, thank my notice any application which seems you exceedingly for the great hungur you to you to have been refused without have done me, and although I cannot autcient grounds, sir, your obedi hope to emulate Mr. Holyoak in his wonent servant,

(S) CLAUD SEVERN, derful powers of orators, you may rest

(Colonial Secretary.) assured that I shall do my very best to

The Hon. Secretary, protect this Chamber's interests, as well

Kowloor Residents Association as, the interests of the commercial com

unity of this Colony during the short time which I expect to serve on the Council. (Applause.) No one déplores Mr. Holyoak's enforced absence from the Colony at this particular time more than I do, and I am sure we all hope that his change to Japan will result in complete restoration to health. thank you.

The special meeting, with regard to the proposed Stamp Ordinance, followed.

Mr. KENNETT proposed further:

9.-Tint, this mecting expresses its.

2nd March, 1921. Sis.I have the honour to inform you that my Committee have instructed me to dak the Governinent what progress has been made in connection with the pro- poscit Motor Omnibus Service in Kow. loon, and also when such service may be expected to be in operation.I have the honour to remain, etc.,

(8d.) W. JACKSON.

(Hon. Secretary: The Hon. Dr. Claud Severa, C.M.C.,

.Colonial Secretary, D

January 21st, 1921.

disagreement with the new principle 518,-I have the honour to inform you

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This was and carried.

Mr. ORMISTOS

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The result of the year's working, shows a profit of #7,81261 against a profit for the corresponding twelve months in 1919 increase of of #4,063.60, being an

#3,770, 13.

Entrance fees and subscriptions have increased 81,500. Bar and billiard re turns show increases of $1,953.07 and shows an increase of $742.45 which has #1208.00 respectively Interest account. chiefly accrued from additional suma transferred to fixed deposit.

Colonial Secretary's Office, Hongkong,

7th March, 1921. SIR,-In reply to your letter of the 28th February, I am directed to inform you. that i have luspected figures showing the David's Buildings, cost of Nathan Road, Kowloon, including the cost of the land when bought, and also statement of all expenditure incurred in connection therewith.

erecting

I find that the rents paid for some years' past yielded about 6 per cent. on the' total cost of the buildings, while the increased rents give a nótt return of 8,4 per cent. The Government does not con- sider this return excessive, and is there matter.Iama, etc.,

st (Sd.)" CLAUD SEVERN,"

(Colonial Secretary.) Inckson, Esq., Hon. Secretary,

involved in Clause. 41 as explained in that I have been instructed by my Comfore not prepared to interfere in the the Attorney-General's Reasons. Clause:mittee to invite the Government's atten- tion to the imposition of increased rentals seconded

of the houses known as David's Build. ings, Nathan Road, Kowloon, and to request that the matter be investigated

Kowloon Residents' Association. by the Government with a view to secur ing relief for the tenants, several of

March 1st, 1991. whom, being members of this Association

S18,At a recent meeting of my Com have appealed for its support. I havmittee the proposed Kowloon Hospital the honour, etc.,

INQUISITORIAL POWERS. Mr. G. M. DODWELL proposed

10.That Clause 43, in its present form, is unnecessarily inquisitorial and should be redrafted in a modified form."

MT. EDKINS seconded:

The CHAIRMAN read Clause 4, which says, that, in cases in which evasion is

The CHAIRMAN: I thank Mr. Kennett suspected, the Collector may enter any for drawinif our attent on in such a such promises for the purpose of inspec forcible manner to this particular clause. tion, and may search any such person We shall press for modification of Clause and muy inspect and take copies of pay 41 of this Bill itself, together with Clause such books of account or other docu- 10 of the Objects and Reasons, if you ments." think that will be sufficient.

Mr. A. R. Lowe: Mr. Chairman, might 1 say that no honest person need be THE RESOLUTIONS CARRIED, fratened of that clause (Laughter.) The CHAIRMAN, then proposed, one by.. Mr. EDKINS: I suggest thuit another One, the resolutions as set forth above. form might be found, that, where pos Mr. J. A. PLUMMER seconded the first, sible, the use of chartered accountanta Mr. F. C. HALL the second, Mr. Bows might be permitted. (Renewed laugh- SITE the third, and Mr. EDENS the ter.) Fourth and fitb.

Hon." Mr. POLLOCK: If the "Govern- The amendments to the sixth and mont only dropped the objectionable seventh resolutions were accepted, Mr clause in this Bill there would not be any BIRKETY Beconding both. As amended necessity for such a clause at all. these resolutions read:-

The resolution was carried.

POSTERITY,

...

6. That this meeting is of the

THE SHARE OF opinion that the Stamp Duty on share transfers be limited to is cents per $100. Mr. ORMISTON: Following your re- 7.-That, as regards Class 20 of the marks, Mr. Chairman, I think it would proposed Ordinance, this meeting is of be well if the Chamber passed the follow- the opinion that clause should be with- ing rosolution;— drawn as being unworkable, but that if it is desired to tax share transac tions, the duty on share contract notes be still further increased, and that holders of shares be compelled to trans fer sume into their own times before receiving any dividends thereon?

The resolutions were carried with ap planss, none voting against

(Bd.) W JACKSON,

(Hon. Secretary.) The Hon. Dr. Claud Savero, C.M.G.

Colonial Secretary, "-

Colonial Secretary's Office, Hongkong,

3rd February, 1921- SWith reference to your letter of increased rentals of houses in David's January 21st, 1921, drawing attention to Buildings, Nathan Road, I am directed. to request you to furnish mo a list of these houses, giving particulars of the rents payable before and after the in creano in question.-I am, etc., ̈ ̈

came up for consideration,

As a result of a lengthy discussion, I was instructed to enquire of the Govern- ment when the work in connection with the preparation of the proposed site will bo commenced, and also to enquire what steps are being taken by the Government to accelerate the construction work of the proposed hospital buildings.--I bave the honour, etc.,

(Sd.) W..JACKSON,

(Hon. Secretary.) The Hon. Dr. Claud Severu, C.M.G

Colonial Secretary." Colonial Secretary's Office, Hongkong,

7th March, 1921. Sin-With reference to your letter of March 1st, 1921, on the subject of the proposed Kowloon Hospital I am directed to refor you to the answer given to the question naked by the Hon. Mr. H. E. Pollock at the meeting of the Legislative Council on March 3rd, 1921-I am, etc.,

(Ed.) CLAUD SEVERN,

(Colonial Secretary.)

Kowloon Residents' Association.

December 27th, 1921. SI-I am instructed by my Committee

(Sd.) CLAUD SEVERS,

(Colonial Secretary.) The Hon. Secretary,

Kowloon Residents' Association.

20th February, 1021. SIB, I have the honour to acknowledge your letter No. 1 in 2578/1919, of the 23rd of February requesting me to furnish a list of the houses in David's Buildings, Nathan Road, Kowloon, and particulars The Hoa, Secretary, of the rents payable before and after the proposed increase.

The houses are threo in number and are

of six flats encheikh

11 Toad this meeting strongly proppo particulars of the rents I how tests against permanent improvements obtained are those of one house (six fata), to the Colony being paid for out of being three outside flats and three inside annual revenue and maintains that a flats, they are uniform with the other loan should be issued to cover all such flats, and are as follows: permanent improvements

Mr. W. L PATTENDEN seconded, and the resolution was carried.

The Hon. Mr. POLLOCK: The Hon. Mr. Ho Fook desires to point out that in

Mr W.-B. KENNETT moved a further resolution regarding Olse 25, dealing with Clause 41, Clause 46 also follows. ..

comes into the discussion. It is a clause

6. That this meeting is of opinion which proposes to inflict a very severe that Clause 25 should be tuneaded so penalty. I have no doubt it will be as to make it clear that a shareholder brought to the consideration of the

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may give a general proxy for use at Government in connection with Clause tenants from the landlords-I have the all meetings of a company provided 41. that such proxy be duly stamped at an The CHAIRMAN: Is that not a matter, honour, etc., amount to be fixed by the Ordinance.you might deal with yourself in Council

(Ed.) W. JACKSON,

(Hon Secretary) AT EVAN ORMISTON seconded, and the when the Bill comes up for second read The Hon. The Colonial Secretary resolution was carried

ing That is all the business, gentlemen,

-(Continued at foot of next column.) (Continued at foot of next column.) thank you for your attendance.

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(Bd.) W. JAOKSON,

(Hon. Secretary.). The Hon. Mr, A. G. M. Fletcher, O.B.E,

Colonial Secretary.

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Colonial Becretary's Office, Hongkong,

11th January, 1921, BIBWith reference to your letter of the 7th December, I am directed to stato that in the light of the experience gained. of the automatic fire-alarms in use : IT Victoria it is not intended to instal similar apparatus in Kowloon, I am,

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