1920-11-19 — Page 3

THE HONGKONG DALLI PRESS, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER

only the Hongkong University. but the Feñorts, and zest, offen, under trying continued prosperity of our port. At the same University to be established in Tientsin ditions. This Colony is grateful and the beasts of his rust experience xei

time we congratulate yourselves on having should be regarded, not as the ultimate sisir to show it by a tribute voyage kanaledge and mod judgment in end in view, but as a means to that end. vices. We wish them a pleasant voyage this met. important matter We shotic pass or students from and holiday at home (Applause. The reduction of Diaphores and Wire these Universities for Anal education in 2 out home. universities say the HOY. ME PARE

lese Position Finder will be much appre cause it is a well-known fact in the North The Hon. Mr. E. V. D. PARR

ciated by the Shipping community using the that our American friends with their tear. Following the remarks of my unofficial reis right the Colony should lead the

meter system and the Government granted the request on condition that they contri- buted to the cost of ita construction 'ractically speaking, it was in the nature of a contract batwon the Government and the Chinese houseowners. Nu, after so Diany years, in spite of the fact that the Chinese bad until recently suffered much had been made to spend so much money which we all admire. have established leagues, I think the most striking feature is hoped, the Chinese Authority gill in duo, hardship from short supplies and that they thes are to be charged for what is essential

·Zo good health and cleanliness in their schools and universities with this end in/of the Budget is the proposed expenditure fourss institute these improvements; alongs narrow, and crowded quarter. Have those view. Already they are returning stud-/exoeding the estimate for the current verbe China Coast, well knuten, as one of the]

We

way this and other developments aud-it

denne foga and adverse currents, fa

cord ally what hou. mem-

who have originated the proposal to charge ents who he becoming an increasing decline of some $3,000,000 in the opiumot rowded shipping thoroughfares of the

| by some $3,300,000 in spite of the expected for excessive use of water in the rider-man power in the North. Iam not here one. It has been further proved dar world and at certain faritou frequens seasons. districts weighed well every condition, under criticise their methods represent to the year that what I said at this Couz-of the year one of the most prevalent to which the population of these districts live, the fulf British interests, and I contend ei meeting this time last year on the of what the working our equable meaze or at home if we do not realise that we as then. Ogesult of the British Goreme regard to the linking, ap of the Cantin class preponderates, we cannot fulfill our part, either in China diminishing spion revenue is true today pointed out before in this Council with I again rulerate what my colleagues have: and have thes of dividing the charges, some not to increase have to provide sufficient funds out here ment relinquishing its control of this trae railway with the Kowloon line. It seras tanecessarily the cost of living and to cause to establish and maintain an cluca and banding the revenue, multiplied 100- endless disputes between owners and tenants tional link which will be inseparable from fold, to the resourceful smuggler, is the tange indeed that the vast potentialities bet woon tenants and tenants? The cur home universities, so that we will additional work put upon the shoulders of Chins do not apparently seem to be realised of railway, development in south and central Chinese consider that the proposal, if car have a succession of British students the Police Force in their endeavour to deal by the thiness Authorities The recent ried into effest, would constitute a breach returning, who will beheve that the first with this most intricate ratification of political troubles around Canton jeera to at contraes on the part of the Government. engineering works in the world are muggling the world has probably ever have postponed indefinitely any solution of

SOCIAL BARRIERS.

British, that the finest products are British. ng ratepayer has to pay for and at the of the country. We trust that the Kwang- Education, this subject, sir,

known, which extra expense the long-suffer should also like to make a few remarks British. There is room for competition Some 17 or 18 years ago, when the ines differences speedily and settle down to carry

Bud than the finest public schools are

this all-important business for the welfare British education in this Colony, which has between us all and we must work iF

nack time, make up the defcit in revennetung and Kwangs factions will adjust their during the past 5 years, steadily branched may say so, with friendly rivalry and co-ing Liberal party went to the electors of out their destinies and great responsibilities. Que all over China has, in an indirect way operation. It was for this reason. Sir, subject of opiam, I recall a conversation paganda Department started. It has been served as part of British propaganda work we welcomed very particularly, as a begin with a merchant in this city and remarked upon to me on more than one Great Britain on (amongst others) the should like to me a Government Pra aud, ducted as to gain the, good will and affernins · the "erant to Holy Trinity" College. ] his saying to merc Believe me, Mr. Parroccasion by new, influential arrivals from

Asanch, it should have been so cos tion of all those whom it was intendelin / Cantom which we will vote and which is no one will over prevent the Chimène smok: Home, that the average min in the. British enlighten and whose co-operation. it aimed the beginning of such an outline of edués, ing opius, no more than they will prevent Iries has no conception of what this"outpot | at procuring in order to further British tion as I have emphasised. I am quite cer& Britisher drinking beer A period of of bur Empire consists of at the present interests. Perhaps in the opinion of those main that the burden is too great for either nearly 10 years has proved what that gratle time, converted as it has been in the course in whose hands the work has been entrusted China or Hongkong and must be sup- ma said to me then, so far, to be correct of some sixty years by British enterprise It has already been so ereducted, but the ported by imperial grants. Subscriptions The whole question has served as a convenient from a fever-stricken, and swampy barren result, as we have seen and experienced will be raised but I am firmly convinced political plank, and the state of affairs inland to a busy thriving commercial com hoth here and elsewhere in China, is hardly that the Imperial Govrnment will come is a thousand times worse today than it was munity. Thousands of millions of money. coumensurate with the efforts and time ex to our assistance P praded, At any rate, it has not been so You, yourself, sir, have referred to continues to grow the poppy (and to still spent on the development of the Colony and

then, as a consequence. ucosful as the efforts of other nations the fact that the schools here are seri-rend of whole districts under its cultivation) it should be the privilege and duty of all in So long as China have been spent and millions more are being cho came into the field at a later date. ously understaffed and that so far it has and a long as the smuggling of opium make these things kann at. Homs and It is true that appreciation of the facilities been impossible to And suitable candidates appears to be on the increase in China. I around the Empire where they may not Dow afforded by the British authoritics and to fill the vacancies. We should like to shall continue to urge that the only way be appreciated and when they can help on missions for gaining a modern education is know whether it is not a fact that this is to combat the sunggling is for the import the good work to any way by zo doing. 10 be found wherever British influence pre-not entirely due to war conditions, but to of the drug to be controlled by the British Vatis, but socinhow or other there seems to the fact that the salary offered is not dovernment, as necessary ber for the Chamber of Contnere: ht be a lack of amtual sympathy and support sufficiently conducive to attract suitable. As a member of the Public Works Comab our Director of Public Works the between the British residents and the

• Chinese. For instance, today, at the candidates. We impress upon you the mitter I can vouch for the fact that a con Hon. Mr. W. Chathany C.M.G., who has metropolis of China, where most of the necessity for filling these vacancies at the siderable amount of useful work has been every right to feel proud of having success. Chinese students educated abroad have earliest moment de done in the privacy of that Committee room fully carried out during a long and honour gathered since their return, what forcibly

In connection with the Police Depart sicce its re-arrangements on the lines proable career a fair proportion of this great strikes a visitor who takes any interest in ment, we have noticed with interest the Pound by your Excellency fast year, and it work. In tendering the subject is that, except thous wao went proposal to establish a training school in may be of interest for ure to siate that in thanks we wish him long and

the Colony's there from Hongkong or returned from connection with the new gaol in the Kow considering the past year's estimates for tirement in the Uld Country

and happy re England, all the returned students have loon Reclamation site. We should like to new roads por sim and object has been to fornied themselves into groups working impress upon the Government the impen up new building aites along the routes gramlations to your Excellency on your We would also respectfully offer our cop heartily, in supathy with, and in support cortance of training Police officers who as much as possible. We urge the administration during the past year. I of the country from which they derived their car satisfactorily handle the traffic of this during the year the necessity for encourag. Holyoaks regarding the Colonial Secretary, Public Works Department to bear in mind endorse the remarks of the Hon Mre education. The nationals of those countries place. which is of growing importance.ing as many contractors as possible in start the Hon. Mr. A. G. M. Fletcher, C.B.E., from which the students came back also Anyone who has been to the North, inand carry on business so as to keep down and wish him as pleasant a holiday in Eng. mingled freely and fraternally with the Peking or Shanghai, comparing the sys-the pre-arrangement of prices and help the land as it is well-eared and deserved. În students and al with the Chinese mertem of motor traffic we have in force here supply to meet what is expected to be an these remarks we include the Hon. Mr. chants who have business dealings with them with that which obtains even in Peking increasing demand in this respect,

a thing that is seldom, if ever, experi-

I also agree that the Government bear Affairs enced here, Flow is it that the Chinese

in mind the expediency of making up de

Hallifax, the General Secretary for Chinese educated in Hongkong and in Great Britain

feits by short time loans in cal or sterling behave so differently. This question we have put to many of our compatriots, and heading of Government House exten- thus equitably distributing the payment We welcome the vore made under the currency with adequate sinking funds, although the answers were more or less sions. I mysell have previously referred to of that development more especially bene. evasive, they all pointed to one factor, and that is a want of mutual sympathy nad good condition of Government House in this ang posterity. Our northern neighbour, fellowship between the Chinese and these Council, but owin to war conditions it daanghai, has recently been successful in from hose country they receive their educa. Was not possible: then to ask for a vote.dating .6 per cent. sterling abort time. votervers presied at ibe moment in conced thy Even in this Colony, the centre of We are glad that it is possible now to loan of £750.000, this British infucace and British enlightenment, bring Government House more into com-to pay for stores received from Hum Ion with the settlement of the

money to be allocated there exist social barriers between the ralers formity with the dignity of the Colony and the ruled, which give time more to Personall like to see added to your mutual distrust than to the mutual cop garage a suitable limousine for the convey fidence which is all-important for breeding ance of your guests in a manner worthy of mutual sympathy and understanding. The the dignity of the Colony same condition prevails on the mainland now come to the question of finance of China, where, the two peoples mect on in regard to public works. I am well aware more or less equal footing. This state of that the Colony is free of debt and that affairs is most regrettable, and we venture for years. "ast great works have been car to believe that if can be removed by closer ried on out of current revenue. intercoure. Now that we have a Univer sity among 13, we hope that its growth will he nursed with such care and a libert spirit as will materially help the ends of British propaganda work.

HON. MR. HOLYOAK.

to-day will recognise that the system which obtains here is yet in its infane and we have much to learn

do contend, and as you have learnt from

THE COLONIAL SECRETARY'S REPLY.

By remarks with an apology in respect The COLONIAL SECRETARY Sir, Finuas. to the first post raised by the hon. mem- ber, representing the Justices," who drew tied the matter of the indes. We subordinate

difficulty in raising a similar loan ar loans time to compile the index. With regard to at any time of need and that this expedi. Page 174 am not quite ange that I under- believe this Government would find no officer salaries and, were unable to find ency ibould be carefully considered before stand the reference made by the hon. mem increasing taxation to any, large extent, ber to the absence of the names of the Heads mout, it is important to remember that the list on page 15 and it will be seen that While it is sound policy to spend on develop of Departments. They are included in the prosperity of the Colony rests on its light the Secretary for Chinese Affairs is uess of taxation in order that the port may four officers at the top. remain a cheap distributing centre of trade The Ho Mr. POLLOCK-My point, ir, rival, present or future.

is that they should appear under the depart

THE COLONIAL

ora.

the Senior Unifficial Member, we are I notice on page 8 of the Draft Estimates agreed that necessary works have been that the scale of fees for the use of buoys ber referred to the question of the zica held back in the past. The policy is not is to be revised and I would respectfully tratsactions and suggested that the report sound. I suggest for your consideration point out that when these buys were approough to have been laid on the table long that large public works which are neces uriated by the Government from the Ship-gegarding the final winding up. In the The Hon. Mr. HOLYOAK-Your Excel Colony-which, in my opinion, is yet to of their then enlet the tere handed or have also been waiting for discussions in sary to the growing development of this ping Companies in many cases at one-third rynstance the auditing and checking, ency the various questions raised in come we must take large views of the on the condition that the tariff should not have

etc., has not been long completed and we connection with the Finance Bill under Future, in connection with dock deve be used as a Government revenne-making discussion have been so fully and ably looments on the other side of the harbour concern, but that the fees should be remetary Appropriation Bill which is to be cofaction with the matter on the Supple lealth by my colleague, the Senior and the harbour developments which will gated to give a fair return on the allered this afternoon in the Finance Unofficial Member, that it is unnecessary possibly be recommended by the expert, atlas We therefore, view with grave con Confmittee.I think his strictures: as to Gore than one or two points, I am in These works must be carried out on the former figure is already well known to give bought about 83 lakhs of rice and on that"] or me to elaborate, or discuss at length, whom we welcome amongst us today, cern the Government's proposal to increase expensive experience and lack of expert Ute tariff From $75,000 to $05,000, is the adviceand assistance are somewhat unde tirely in sympathy myself with the com-principle of debenture loans raised

servd. With regard to the expense we a handsome profit on the outlay. We shall

the total loss was approximately 27 lakhs.

But if possible a little cheaper than ang niet heading The bon. mea

tents of the Senior Unofficial Chinese locally and redeemable year by year, be glad to know if the representative Spadventure to say that the figures of

ember on the subject of hawkers and possibly by premium loans with which ping Companies concerned have through cences, and I cannot help feeling that our Chinese friends are well as the Chamber of Commerce, been cosmid Just individual merchants in this Colony ring the past twelve months the Police quainted. By such means development in this matter. We further wish to point will make no better showing in respect of rosecutions of juvenile offenders almost would take place more rapidly than it out that any increase in the charges of the same rusaction for the same period. rtook of the nature of persecution and otherwise would. ust tend, if they have not already done have looked in vain for any reference risas similar charges at rival port, bear circumstances to buy on a rising market in the port Auch na this, emigract fees, etc., it must he remembered we were forced by to the development of juvenile in the estimates to the wireless station intimately upon, the mstances, we have no adequate method cussed at the conference at Shangbai. It We trust that the proposal for the mili minans with whom under present cir- for Hongkong. This subject was also dis prosperity of the Colony, and continued to stendy the pries and we were cinite unable to sell until there came a failing dealing With your permission, sir, has long been felt by the Chamber of tary to give up the ground around Murray supplies. With regard to his point in con-

marke; and the prospect of obtaining

inos future buld like to deal for the moment, first Commerce, here that the facilities we have Barracks for building purposes will mature pection with the inadequacy of the Public all, with the important question of in Hongkong are inadequate, compared without delay so that these much-needed Works staff His Excellency raterred to tish education in China and in Hong with the facilities in Manila and Shanghai, development, schimes may be put in hand this at the last meeting, and pointed oat 12. which I deem one of the most vital and is only at our disposal through the and expedited as much as possible. I, per that we were employing some local firms, estions before us to-day. At first courtesy of the Admiralty for any com- osally not in favour of spending a and if this experiment proves satisfactory you may feel inclined to call me to mercial purpose. We have had to rely large stius of money in continuing the Peak and, if it is necessary, the number will bo er in naming China in connection with on occasions upon Manila for current an alteration will only serve to render more he intention of the Government to give debate which is of more direct in-prices of stocks and commodities and we expensive still one of the already mest fill notice to all parties interested of any Tramway to the Queen's Road level as such increared. With regard to the same it is st to Hongkong, but in reality the feelwe

problems are absolutely inseparable phasise the importance of having a wire world. The lower, tram station has done on member mentioned next the strengthen- cannot too strongly em expossive tram services, I suppose, in the proposed extension of this experiment. The 3 the interests of both are less station in a Colony like this where very well where it is for some of years and ing of the roads in connections with the pro mon, united and inseparable so far shipping is the life-blood. We must have this valuable ground can be put to better posed motor bus services at Kowicon. This ducation is concerned. You will have a wireless station which can pass on mes public nie and the money spent to better 13 Arranged for under Public Works Extra- rnortunity before long of reading the saves to reach London within a reason public advantage than in continuing the ordinary Page 55 of the Estimates, where atim report of a very interesting disable space of time. We hope, Sir, you Peak tramline to the lower level. The road sum of 8100.000 Bet aside for this Fon. which took place a fortnight ago will make these representations to the will, no doubt, be widened as it is already purpose. There is also an additional sum e Shanghai conference of the British Imperial Government in connection with the most extensively used ond by meter for the New Territory Roads and for the mbers of Commerce, which dealt at the Imperial reless scheme under con- vehicles in the Colony Broad pathways improved service as far as Laichikok, which great length with the whole question sideration. The ritish Education in China and in In conclusion, I would like to refer to pedestrians.

will no doubt be made for chair trafic will be

and

this terminus of one branch of the kong You will read of the proposals the impending retirement of the Director

Erich He also expressed the hope that stablish a British University in the of Public Works, because this is the last for a growing young community as this up with the Hankow railway. Negotiations The necessity for more recreation ground the Kowloon Canton Railway will be linked which it is not proposed in any occasion of a budget debate at which he Colony mostly consists of, is being felt more are in an advanced stage and there is hope to make competitive with our will be with us

every year and I submit, sir, that the soil that as soon as things settle down in Canton ersity here. We studied this ques- I do not feel competent myself to refer tion of this increasingly important matter 4 speedy solution will be, found, He thro incerely and earnestly, and we are to the many years of loyal and distinguish and turfed at Kowloon in the more easily and and the force was not sufficient for iced that neither the University in ed service he has tendered to this Colony

is that a large space or spaces be levelled referred to the question of European Polico orth, nor the Hongkong University Many of the magnificent buildings which set-stable districts on this side of the hills the protection of the population from the e fed and maintained without a impress everyone who lands on these and that such spaces be served by cheap criminal classes of the Colony. I may say of secondary education and shores, and the roads, which run voicing the sentiments of the general public ueau Police cast very large sum indeed. Mary schools provided in different equalled in any part of the world are (British Chinese, and all denominations It will be seen that the increase this year ferry and tram services, I think I am that the Police cost money, and the Euro of Chine. I do not think we can standing testimonials to him. In parting. alike) when I say that while the Govern is from something like pine lakhs to to the two problems; they are also we would wish him all the happiness and ment may be blamed for too little attention thirteen lakhs, an increase of $400,000. The imperial interests. It was felt and health in the retirement to which he is in this direction, the importance of the hon member has produced no fucts or trongly in Shanghai, and it is my justly entitled, also wish to thank the mattor go far as it affects the public welfare rares to show we are not well protected. T Conviction and know the Colonial Secretary and the Secretary for cannot be overestimated;

of The Chamber of Chinese Affairs who are going on leave, enders, the Hon. Mr.

think it in A great tribute to the efficiency In Hongkong is be for their invaluable services to the Colony welcome to Sir Maurice FitzMaurice record, a regarda crime recently, in view Mr. Pollock's of the Police that we have had ench a olear in this that we must go The Chamber of Commerce especially in among us and look forward to his report of the disturbed state of affairs in the her than providing elementary its relations with the Colonial Secretary's and recommendations for the Improvement neigh may say, too, Wo must clearly realise that not, Department bas, appreciated his untiring of our Harbourour chief asset for the con

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