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DE.LECLERC'S

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BOER DELEGATES

say that some of the South African Minis tars have been weak mert and too subject to outside influences. I can only say that every soldier I have consulted has told ma that General Botha was "one of the moss formidable opponents against whom he has ever fought, and that Field Marshal Lord Frenet has publicly said that he neve!" had against him a more skilful general than General Smuts. I can also cons

"PREMIER'S QURATIONS, The Prime Minister: You might just tell me one or two things that have a general knowlüge of. : I would like to have your views with regard to the Do you know any thing about the views of the native population of South Afriesen, both in the councils of the Empire on this subject!

DEMAND while continuing to do it, will still con- FOR INDEPENDENCE. tions along constitutional lines, and the

old population, sir. I feel, and think MR. LLOYD GEORGE'S REPLY.

yone feel too, eventually will win. We Reuter's Agency states that the indepen-are here today to ask you that the wrong dence deputation of the National Party which was done in 1902 may be undone of South Afrien was "received by Mr. to the two Republies. “ Lloyd George in Paris on June 5th. The deputation consisted of the following: General J. B. M. Hertzog, Mr. S. C. Havenga (from the Orange Free State), Senator A. W. Wolmarans Dr. He Reitz (from the Transvaal), Dr. D. F. Malan, Adv. F. W. Beyers (from the Cape Provinge). Mr. A. T. Spies, Adv. E. C. Jansen (from "Natab. In a statement of the case unt points it is pointed out that the chief abject of the deputations in their visit to Great Britain is to lay before his Majesty's Ministers the claint of the former South African Republic and Orange Free State to the restitution of its national status obinining before the War of 1899-1902.

In opening the

erdings before the F Prime Ministe practically the whole Hertzog said

the were sent by

General Hertzog: No, except what I have set from the papers. Felieve they left, where, according to the papers had had a meeting at Bloemfontein before the natives expressed a desire against re stitution of the Free State.

The Prime Minister: I am asking "that. because I have only just beard that there TS JE deputation either arrived in Paris or coing to Paris

firm from my own experienes the fervor and influence executed by these two Dutch-

and in the Pence Conference itselfy

I am happy and proud to say that the gront experiment we made has proved "a success which has been the admiration of The Boer South people, fossils all who have watched it,

supported by Africans of British origin. hase cum

justified the confidence and trust

Stoly par in them by the British to

ernment and people They fully and un- reservedly accepted the new institutions granted to theup they proceeded on the new basis to build up a new country in -operation with their British fellow. citizens.

of old wrongs

General Hertzog: ikke it, sir, that they are against restitution.

The Prime Minister: Well, that is and sufferings were

tim

Gishural Herizor: They had ten some ago, and I think at the present moment they have nine.

The Prime Minster: How are they divided between the races ?

General Hertzog I think the greater majority are of butch descent, unfor

tonately.

population which they represented. The very straight answer to my question. An. feelings which had her expressed by the other question I should like to put to vaters were really the sentiments of the you is this: How many Ministers are majority of the old population in Souththere in South Afrien Africu. Thus they were purple an insignificant ruinority,

was South Africa whose only country They included every class of life, contended that proportion of the Bri- tish section in South Afrien Boked upon themselves s

and claimed for -themselves... on Miwrior privi- British leges, and for

politics, In superiority! preference or as had happened onis too often during this last war, they assumed to themselves right of saying in South Africa what should be felt and what should b done, and in a time of crisis they were led by the fering of the country of their origin being in peril, and so on to assume an attitude towards the older population

amounted to tyranny at,

the

that was

which when you differ from them on

General Hertzog: I say unfortunately because of their politics.

And the memorised up in the

new, larger, and tru geheras South African spirit. So far as my theory serves me, no claim or demand for the restoration of the old independence was. made

us by the predominantly. Bore Govern- ments and Bor Parliaments which came into power, under the new self-governing Constitutions. Tasta of raising any claim which would serve to divide oneo more the geople of South Atries and reopen the ancient quarrel, they took the The Prime Minister: Why do you another alternative, and, on a basis of full discussion, free agreement, and unfetter- unfortunately? They are very distingi.

into V ed essent entered

inating shed Dutcha.

and indissoluble unten with the rust. and

This Con- of British South Africa. sciention the free act of the whole people of South Africa, representing both white races and all the Colonies. Each made sacrifices ; each incurred, risks for the great con- mon ideal: each surrendered its heal in dependence and separate insations in trust, in complete good faith in the others. Do you think that the other Colonies, or that either race would have. been prepared to make this goat sur- render if they thought that the union was only temperary, only a passing arrange

ot an indis- ment of conveniener, assoluble marriage for ever?

The Prime Minister: For three years I was persecuted because I was a pro- Bour. Not krieg sulite of these grent lead es. General Builia 1 know, and General Smus also. Well, who are the others in the Ministry?

General Hertzog: There is De Wet. Mr. Beyers: That is the Minister of Justice.

MR LLOYD GEORGE'S SPEECH

tinas. Ary point of politics of the day you may be absolutely sure that you are some diately decried a pro-ferman, or as German agents. If you discuss ques- la his reply, which was subsequently tion as to the right of self-determination. given, the Prime Minister said:-- you are decried from every platform as p It would, of course, be easy for ine' to a traitor, sedition-monger, whatever they take the merely formal ground that, as may be, and ses un This feeling in the South Africa had given rise to irritation, concerns the Lnton of South Africa, which exasperation, and viokoce.

is a self-governing Dominion, the British Governmen: could only listen to such re presentation as you have made if they came from the Government of the Union General Boths bewer deputation and to lay

General Hertzog the pointed out what the result was in politics Measures were proposed in England. salutary measures mathe, When were as suneterned, but the

far as England was moment such measures were introduced in England, even while inquiry was being made as to whether they were necessary for South Africa, these questions wer immediately taken up by these men in

South Africa,

you had a constant

me to meet

before you the point of view of the British Government, and I am very gind to do so. It is quite clear from your statement, as well as from the resolutions which your have subtitled, that you do

of the new

was.

GRASD PACT, Thus, view of the British Government is that the Union of South Africa rests. on a grand pact, fundamental under- standing and agrement between the Bri

ish and Dutch elements of the people of

which Loth made sacri South-Africa, in

fees and surrenders for the attainment of a great common ideal, and that it cannot be dissolved by the on-sided action of either element without the consent of the other. At the most solemn, moment in its history the people of South Africa.exer-

of measures which, Dot claim to speak for the whole people cised a free, deliberate, finni choice; it

move for tha, d as being

were not so much

with what

INDIRECT INSPIRATION,

of the Union. not even for the whol

vinces

necessary for South as being in pic of the Transvaal and the Orange expressed that choice in a free constitu State, nor even for the whole of the ion of its own creation: not only the but alse the Im- Imperial in England Dutch-speaking people

Van represent theinde "pro-

perial deemed necessary for beginn

and ratified wishes of that

proclaimed prin- which you whose adherents are almost entirely ciple of Party The Prime Minister There is no case Grawn from the older Dutch-speaking refer has been given effect to by the people or the British Parliament has attemptedpulation of South Africaon Par of South Africa in the fullest, freest, most te enforce any regulation or any law of fiment showed, is supponalist party. disruption of

in which either the British Government

its own upon South Africs..

General Hertzog: Oh, no, not une that I know of. It is the indirect inspiration of which I' am inspiration while now, speaking-o, the act in conformity with Englishmen in Engiand, give effect to in South Africa. They try to impose upon South Africa measures which I feel certain that if it were not for the subjection of South Africa to Great Britain, they would not

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be

policy, as a recent vote in the representatives of the

only by

the

Firt

Further, as you informed me, the native

of Africa

against independiente, frig wis defnitely main within the British Empire.

to

solemn and deliberate manner. We could not agree to the Union.

to day action which means the To do otherw

erwise would ruin South Africa The restitution of the national status of the old republies would not only mean the break-up of

of the Union, it would You ask for the restitution of the na-o

break-up the

of the constituent For: assuming, tional status of the Transvaal and Orange

parts of South Africa. Free State as it was before the war of merely for the sake of

that it argument. 1800 to 1902 You ask it, o

so I ender is

is the wish of the Dutch-speaking people stand, not because of any interference of the Transvaal to break away from the with South African affairs by the Govern Union, and to be restored to their pre-

no

trouwenk that British South Africa

bür

to

war

mean

Population he knew the Boer, and he with wonderful loyalted to con- which South Africa now occupies in the

the

tö

The

CARE NOT TO BE RE-OPENED.

the greatest

itr

by

Dutch

republican status, are the equally estly do as they do now. Generalment, the Parliament, or the people of;

then referred to particular the Caited Kingdom. In reply to my numerous British-speaking people of that ease-the case of the deportation of Get- questions on this point-and I was most province not entitled to any choice in they many and men of German origin from

anxicus to be reassured upon it you said regard to their status? And suppose South Africa. As far as he knew, no

that there was less interference than ever

desire to remain in the Union or t wish had been expressed by the British before. I am particularly glad to have separate from the restored Republic, shall Government with regard to that. What your assurance that you have no com we have to proceed to the partition of had been the result At the moment itia

plaint to make on this point, because it the Transvaal And if the

exercise was declared in England that that step

is a cardinal axiom of British policy native parts of South Afrin ant-

the taken, an organised sys avoid any interference in be was going to

internal a choice in favour of separation from the tem of meetings was carried out all over affairs of any self-governing portion of Union shall we have to cut off native South Africa

I should also like to say territories from the Union and its pro- All these meetings were the Empire. crying out that only the Germans. not this about your statement as to the in- vinces? These questions need only to be only the naturalised Germans, but every tolerant attitude of South Africans of asked in order to make it clear how dan man with a German name or of German: British origin and descent towards their gerous-and, in fact, impossible it would

I have descent, should e sent out of South Dutch fellow-citizens.

immediate

fatase be to recognise a mere sectional choice Africa

of South African conditions, UF

exercised determination

any part General Hertzog said this solidarity of

reference to the..

will of the whole. national feeling had sometimes been attri

hatred. He knew the tit have of the people of South Africa without

I think

Finally, I would point to the status their

point of view is also entitl enid in the most emphatic terms that there sideration, and it is surely a great testire world. It is surely no mean one. As

no racial in South Africa, Isaacial feling was near an antagonista, mony to their dominantly butah Coverage value the south of rice puple co-

for the last of the Dominions the British due to race, between Dutch and Eng ment has been in power in South Africa,trol their own national destiny in the lish. old population loved South

which has largely derived its power from fullest sense. In regard to the comment Africa as the Englishman loved England. the votes of British South Africans. Imperial conceras they participate in They felt there was no other country for

the deliberations which deteriuine Im Germany, France, where

for the re- perial policy, on basis of completo hailed from, were nothing sturation of the independence of the equality.

In the think I I say what is common Transvaal and the Orange Free State is history South Africa is to us all, that we feel far nearer akin to based purely upon South African con tus statesmen

1 at once an Englishman the moment we come into siderations. Inust 345

extraordinary influence in the affairs contact with him than we do, as a rule, cannot ace how it is possible for the Bri-rigin, who have won for South Africa with anyone else, because of our educatish Government of the Imperial Parlia-f the world. It is futile to believe that tion and our tradition, and those sull ment to reopen a great settlement which South Africa san ever return to that things which you cannot explain, but in has been forged out in the heat and trials isolation which was possible a century

So much for the feeling of the past twenty years, because of poli ago. The world has become too. knit tog of the old population.

In regard to the new population, the 1tical issues which have arisen, not between taor, the action of one part, impinges too directly a too rapidly on the fortune British population, be said, they prided but between different sections of the

South Africa and the United out at every other part for any nation to themselves upon it, and he was not going African people themselves. If the Bri- keep outside the great coma current to quarrel with it; but the prided them-tish Government were to intervene it human affairs. The formation of the

of

tho recognition 1 would, in my judgment constitute an League of Nations is they had setres upon the fact that

interference with. those rights which were

in the future "fact, and in inexorable divided interest, and that if it came to

this a question of whose interests were to take once and for all conceded to South Africa League of Nations South Africa will.. precedence, those of South Africa or those when the Imperial Parliament ratified have the same membership and etatus of England, then the majority of them de- the Act of Union drawn up by a Con- far more influence than any of the

which of clared they would have those of England vention of the South African people or the Empire. A big struggle had been approved by, the freely elected Parlia- few Great Peaura. It may be that the going on for that very reason. Consements of the four South African Colonies. significance of these facts has not yet been quently, with two hostile national faiths Further, will you allow me, as you fully realised by all the South African

to he a like that, it was impossible for them not have come to present your views to the people, but they seem to me to

a com be driven into two opposite political British Government, to express very plete angrer to the aspiration for in- you voiced on behalf samps, because the whole question had to frankly my own opinion as to the wisdoti dependence which ba fought out in politica on the platform of you Propoee? do not want to

of one section of the people, Minis and in Parliament.

My to ron not only as a British Erine I have spoken about rebellion," Gen: own attitude towards the Boer War and ter, but as a tried friend and well-wisher

pole is well-known to Well, sir, I feel towards the Boer people is

of the Dutch people, and as myself a eral Hertzog added.

tas far as Bouth Africa is con

you. When the Government of the late member of one of the small nations of

of Campbell-Bonnerman, the British Empire,

I would advise South Africa is not willing to Sir Henry Sight. The old population is not going which I was a member, came into power. people with all the warnestness at my to 6ght unless it is made by force. to one of their Best acts was to grant free command not to endeavour to undo the

go so far.

what

revive the memories of the past.

that

do it through measures which might make Constitutions to the Transvaal and the any people use violence in return. But Orange Free State.

and

Jour

past, but to look forward confidently to

As the outcome of 'e great future which lies before 4

as it is to-day, the old population has those Constitutions, Governments cited South Afrien, and to persevere decided to continue pressing its claim to posed principally of the Dutch leade en that road which Providence has mark-

line of progress. independence, and the old population, in the Boer War came into power. You clout for our common