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their agreement at the time the Home danger Did the Nationalists suppose

Rule Bill was carried--if they had thrown that if they had Home Rule to-morrow there would be no outery in Ireland for themselves heart and soul into raising the an Irish Republic? Did they suppose men by voluntary means, they would have the physical force inch would cease their larger following in Ireland than they You will never, as long as in the opinn stof this House, it activities? If they did not, they would have to day.

He sincere. this nation and Empire exist, get Home inl

fure the British he forced to keep them down that.

ly hoped and believed that it would not Rule except by convincing the people of the United Kingdom that it in just and ot takes part to any proceed

to maintain this form of

You will right that you should get it. he reselliraunt of Europe in the beurressa ra

of prace the Trish qention Government in Ireland for very long

get it in no other way

Mr. Hazleton settled in accordance with the He believed that those elements could and Presidens would be crushed out, but they certainly я Jud 1089

would not be crushed out so quickly ife Hot Bule Acti That all atas, large and small ave free self determination is to help was no forthraming from Irishmen themselves He appealed to Nationalists rm of gesment, and that no

ruled and donated to appronch the question from the point should ta

of view of trying to state what settle their w

ment they would accept,

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FORMATION OF SINGAPORE BRANCH

OF NATIONAL ASSOCIATION

AL B well attended meeting of dis charged anilors and soldiers and time expied men which was held on December in 1. い Singapore Cricket Club, 17th kindly leat for the occasion by the com mittee, it was unanimously agreed to form A local branch of the National Association of Discharged Basions and

Mr C Hogarth, the vener of the meeting, it the coarse of his Temarks saari.

Are you going to repeal Soldiers,

Mr Bonar Law INKY to the Hatise", and to hon. gentlemen below the gang way, that if they had taken that attitude. if they had carried even a fais proportion of then people with them, they would have done Junre to make the success of their chuse becare in tireat Britain, and they would have done more to win the aequiescence of Vister than they will do mal speches. by the agitations. 4Clasers and derisive Nationalist cheers )|| We have got to live together, Ireland and Grent Binain There never was a time, in my opinion, in the history of the rela trons between the two countries when the class of Ireland had less of a response in the nited Kingdom than they have otherwise? How could at H today. Throughout the length and breadth of

cun affairs by y and responsible force instead

Short was the Mr. Engietoti vaid Mr heir own will ami elister, prin or which 31 the words of the most ludierong and offensive Chief Becre tary who had ever sat on the Treasury Minister, the Alles are ostensibly

His speech that evening was an ans that ench in every other country application t dese principles sul to the intelligence of the House of As fi so called Liberal the em of querer and mildars rule.

rigla hon gratteman was a joke. It was hich land is al patekent guvern

apparent that the Government intended uld be brought to an end

to continue the old evil word of coctrion If The Government The Given vident to appear ai the

1ind opajaronston2. Conference and demand the libera

persisted in their refusal to grant the all the wall natios of the world,

demands of the Irish people it would be the same 11 lu

necessary for Ireland 19 send representa They hadves to the Peace Conference.

Captain Esumonde said this was the last bid that Irish It government Was

British Government. Th opportunity He should get

would have for dealing with a united cotini war castra

as the war Ireland as presented by a constitution buriked for be told that

at party.

Mr H Samuel said he could only & over the necessity for honouring

The last thing de ribe the speech of the Chef Seeri tennise lud KIND

It was wholly bar nted England to lay herself opentury na lamentable the Peace Confereng, and before there of helpful suggestion. They could not, in his opmu, go to the Confer ence with my mind knowing that af dloge of your matsji)

their own doors they had the question of Ireland unsettled

ir wh Dud! wetiak!

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Clancy

belmend

trending the mon that no one me kreined new believed e sincerity of any British sinterin

Asquith. The mal question for in, whether or not, in view of the particularly ut history in took place at the $rish Convataljon, we have of the bupes entertained.

M. Hopar Law said the resolution jaid down two propositions to which he be hesed the overwhelming majority of the were opposed It made A The first we preposteroUR people of the country elsam tha the British Empire should take no part in a Fence Conference till the trish question was settled. Voices net to hear that we might be pre) What riw did it ment He did fur & Tral thement the iris not suppose that M: O'Connor or Mr. No knows the dunculties Dilm realis means that the armirs were 37 than 1 do, but I do not believe they are disperabile. It is quite So called a evolutioninry Wint 1

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untoduced again terveiled the old road of trying to thing byl something of sense of shanic

ch other in an armistice until we had site the Irish question The resolution also made another claim to which the Government were equally opposed The very wording of it implied iting this was subject with which the Peace Confer ence had white right to deal,

the muctes a new element which still for compliates the delictes, she seeming to impede and postpone a irment. "I do not believe there is any unity in Europe in which the Bowls

I deny it said Mr. Bunar Law) and 3 revolution, in the bad sense of the ed, would fail upon lese fruitful posl resintion such as this would be passets more, that this as a domestic ques hunanimity in vers Parliament of ry self-governing Damon (Cheers

spirit commends itself essence and

liberty und juetic the Mense ughout the rivitised world. Mr. Short agreed that everywodą Sin Fein was Red a real settlement disturbing element in arriving at some While was incre ra of wettl mut rion than Mr. Asquith realised, it was Bul tu menas a permanent obstacle. anu Fein to-day was allied with the Brother hysical-force Fish Republican

od, which was a suffer danger nut his to us, but to our cousins in Amerien. willing, Ireland there were hether they liked it or not, to play the The Irish Volunteers Gerin game.

ere dominated by the Irish Republican Brotherhood. They had recently made reparations for fresh acts of violence, fidence of the most serious description.

I do

That is

the

After the publication of niş letter in

Singapore Free Press of Vetuber! 30th, advocating the formation of a branch here of the National Association of Discharged Sailors and Soldiers, i had only two letters from local men muil I thought I would go up as a bad Since the signing of the armistice, Jul. however, I am very pleased to say that have been approached by mnumerablu men to go on with the project, and more

Ar So since 3 letter of 2nd inst member of the N.A.D.S.8, and a member of Darlington branch since its for mation 16 months ago, I quote you nur objects. The association is open to all discharged sailors and soldiers for purpose of protecting their interests and for social fellowshiji Also to inquire intu aft cases of hardship resulting 15 Bisin there Great

who

gone from inadequate pension allowances and for the E-ET say

They to secure redresa by bringing such cases who will

What before the proper authority for recon- look in Freland, and they say,

Further, to educate public shre have they taken tan Bun. Mem-sideration. ไม่ her: A very big share," in this terrible pinion to the belief that the mainten

Momber: Far (An Hon.

Fance and welfare of the disabled sailor struggle t tu match my be wrong, but I think or soldier and his dependents is that is the feeling in Great Britain to day direct duty of the State and should be aits first care, and that they should, in (An Hon. Member. And it America.

But Yes, and in America,

do not want no way, be dependent upon charity for that feeling to grow. We have got to live their livelihood in the uatter of em ployment we are out to secure the co together, as I said, and I think every member of this House, when we do resoni, as I de, the small part which Nationalist operation of the private employer, the thin Trade Unionist, and the Municipality in as a whole has taken Freland struggle when we do resent it, we still finding work of a suitable character for remember one familiar figure who used to the discharged sailor and soldier. One sit on those benches. (Nationalist cries might say in passing that there will he no discharged sailors and soldiers in of When you killed" and "By

this part of the world out of employment, It is Del hypocrisy, (An Hugi.

We do re- Yes, it is."} think not.

There might not be at the moment. but trat figure, and will always lots left these parts to fight for their were told semi- recoltees that, though I aun surry to say King and Country and they the

war which they will their return. is part in thi

That looks all right on not look back upon as long as many of

paper, but I know of inna.nerable caseN thune hun.

hun. members are living with any-

at bome where men have returned, many of them maamed, and they were tall that A Nationalist Member

gross

they did previoudy. Many offered to bel")-we still remember there are some they could not perform the work which Irishmen, who were our bitterest, oppm

retain them at a smaller wage which waB ents in the past, who have done what men

hing in itself that they were not want- could uphold the cause for which

We don't want lives a voice: Shane) their many here have given

Dose things to happen out here and we do not despair of a settle (Cheers.) ment, but the words used by Mr Asquith are to combat such despicable methods. tion for the British Empire, that there as true today as they were when he Our association is also out to see that the You cannot have any form employer and municipality give to dis British Empire is prepared in deal noted them.

the

which they only fairly and justly, but in every sense of welf-government for the whole of recharged men vacant situations which they

are able to undertake or Irish and which includes l'inter without in Lowards Ireland generously

main getting the assent of Ulster. That would be able to undertake with some Ever since I was Voter

When 7") in Parliament The resolution asks that is not possible if you go about it in training and to prevent any advantage the right way. Volil you have got it you being taken of the disabled men's posi we shall take no part in the Conference till this question has in settled, and will never, in my belief, convince

We are a long declares that this is a question on which people of this country thai elf-determination by insisting in Trad anion condi way from home and une might say that will by force upon we must listen to the dictation of people in means that one section of Irishurentions being adhered to.

thuse objects are all right at home (irish to pose their British Empire. outside

another section with an equal elaita to That 14 not in the resolu

justior say it is absurd to treat this Agreed. But there is no reason why we cannot discuss the conditions which are tion. My right ton friend says this as a Home Rule discussion on this resolu Government have broken their pledges tron. My right hon. friend (Mr. Asquith) applicable out here and secure redress because the Prime Minister said he did said in the country last week that what where necessary.

he thought would happen was that as soon intend to seek a settlement. The Guvern.

back ment were prepared to introduced

lines. I was party sure if it had nay chance of being car-to the eld

The about the indom of that cheers) but ried without violent controversy. Prime Minister after the Convention if my right hon friend and I are to be

this matter

itter I would in opposite parting than that those who made that qualification. Changed condi

ask for nothing tions in Ireland fullowed that speech.

In all resolution; which make a settlement right away.

Government should take part in the the claims about one nation ruling over

another, Mr. Bonar Law Peace Conference before Home Rulo is and

vereing continued, it would never be imagined settled, and which implies that this is that this dificulty was not a difficulty question which somebody or other outside the United Kingdom has a right to say between Great Britain and Ireland, bot

one single word about. (Cheers.) to differences between Irishnet them.

Mr. Adamson said that if it did happen selves. If there were any general agree certain extent it controlled Sinu

mente in Irelands it would not be long that Labour in this country came into Fein. The motion sought to impose on

power there would be a very determined 1 British Government that unless there before Great Britain would accept

What the effort made in order to settle this century. was settlement of the Irish question

Nationalists meant by self-determina-old controversy between the two sections the British Government should be ex eladed from the Peace Conference. That tion, was that they should be taken to of the Irish people. (Hear, bear.)

Sir E. Carson: May I say that this is Ireland. That was the sort Mr. Boland (N.. Kerry, S.) said that a meant that the Allies were to be asked

represent The proposer and to exclude them.

of phrase containing a generality which good deal of objection had been taken to the tenth year of my reign. (Laughter.)

Mr. Dillon (proveding) asked what had no meaning. The whole question the opening words of the solution, parti. seconder dealt only in generalities and id not say what they meant by settle-

therefore proposed, with the consent of Treasury Bench to condemn Sinn Fein, "The Irish Convention and failed was, whether the British Government or cularly by the Government speakers. He right had the right hon. gentleman on the movers, to amend the opening of the when he himself had led the way by saying tongree.

It had failed to obtain the the British people were prepared to com

between the Prime Minister On that there was no differ- nequiescence of lister in any form of Pel Ulater to accept a settlement again resolution, so that it should rend. "That that he would break the jaw? There wa

her will.

Tre- a secretionist leaders regarding ence of opinion between the Government in the opinion of this House, in view of During the debate that

and the reitlement.

the Government afternoon they had not heard what pro

st memberg bad for and Mr. Asquith. Mr. Asquith had said the coming Pence Conference, it is casen- and the result was

that the Irish question should be land, that the coercion of Ulster was unthink seitled without further delay, in accord-

The time for con- posals the Natu

and compromises in Ireland had dealing with that "ition of the querable.

"Where are we?

ance with the principles laid down by cession that night. Mr. Asquith says

gone The position of the world had tion. Did they propose to couree Ulster

was changed. The amendment to the resolution the Government have got to get Home President Wilson," ete. by forer or not! The only coercion in

most ancien should Ireland, one of the races in Europe, not have Iceland to-day was that of the rebels Rule at oner. Is he prepared to face

accepted.

zecho Blovaksi same rights me the Dillon said the Chancellor of the the and was a nation with independent Mr. problem, and to say that to-day he who were prepared to blow up Deblin or

will do what a few months ago he said he Exchequer seemed to have forgotten all rights. That was the claim Ireland had Belfast. They had lady had the op- portunity of self-deter nation, through would not do? If he is not, what is the the blood that had been shed by Irishmen

After that debate the Convention, and they could not agree use of talking to the Ho

House of Commons in this war. No section of the House had always put forward. Tho

1 believe that if suffered so much in apporting the Allies the Irish question must become as inter- of these generalitics.

An the Irish were as in their own form of government.

Nationalist party. The failure of national question.

House they claim that what had been just as much the Nationalist members who, like Mas

the denied justice in that House take our view about the justice recruiting in Ireland had been due to

the

with desire had been to settle the problem arrive at a settlement should be used of

n obstacle to the appearance of the 1 he has done, that hy louk no part in any which had attempted Prussian methods the English people, but that was not DOW

a people who

not tolerate Prussian British Government before the Pence recruiting campaign a

That is an absolute misre methods. (Nationalist

had possibly after the apeeches from the Front What had pous cheers.) I said.

Bench. He placed his trust in President i have been become of the Clerman plot story one of

ando the the best and most unscrupulous political Wilson. Europe was about to

Poland. Why might they of tricka think the hon. mem. be no difficulty in obtaining the accopy mire pren. th

that Mr. BOLT

remembered. Partition tance by that House nad the country of any settlement which the Irish people ber used the words. I way that if instead (Nationalist cheers.) There was a greater not, therefore, ask Europe to undo tho Act of Union, which was even more in (overnment would Ireland, which the bave gone to their Irish fellow-countrymen

Till this in settled we care country had left at hote: the Ireland in

Whero Poland had prospered Ireland had alist laughter)

and said: With regard to Irish administration, an

Bir G. Hewart said the Government had he maintained that the Government had nothing for Home Rule or anything else the Dominions; and the Irish in the

We nek our countrymen to put that aside United States.

with absolute Ainocrity(Na been able to avert an armed rising by witil this world conflict between right and from that debate whe that Sir Edward list erica of "Oh)--to find

Derisive Nationalist Carson had been proclaimed from the tent of the Irish gestion by consent. the physien! force party. Fur &

wrong is arttled."!

of Ireland. Treasury Bench ne King of time the physient force party had been rers)

Cabsent was the only basis on which a the ander dog, beat it was now trying to Mr. Landon: You would betray uslear, hear," and Inughter.)

America know it. That right hon. gentle settlement of the Irish question could now come to the front again. He believed they would be able to avert anything Mr. Bonar Law: I think they would man had sat at the corner of the bench bo_ronched.

The House divided, and there voted:--

For the motion ................. have had a larger following in Ireland throughout the night, but he had not like ns armed rising or disturbance,

110. Against but the means of it existed, pules the than they have to-day. Or if only at the spoken Why should be! He was repre Government kept a very firm bald. No aleventh hour when we felt that we must sented by the Treasury Bench; he was body in Ireland who knew what was got these men, if those hon. members King Carmen of Treinad. (Laughter.)

Majority against being done, in the way of raide, salzing let them say that they did not want onn-

(Continued at font of next column.) and storing explosives, and the making scription, though I think they had no right

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last week, at one of their headquar there was though high explosive, with fuses all prepared which experts were now examining to have blown

He knew this the whole of Belfast. element was a very small body, but it was there and extremely dangerous, and

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the war was over we should whiful!

me should vote for

was unani- The following resolution nously agreed to.

thie together That

Be assembl afternoon, agree to form a branch here and now of the National Association of pledged ourselves to give our support to Discharged Sailors and Soldiers, and we

The whole case put to us is that we must will be opposed to that the 2 this those elected to office 14 further the cause

ttlement

this

that basis.

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the

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The Chairman, speaking in support of

objects of such association." the resolution, strongly deprecated the idea of bringing men out at £950 year sterling and spoke against the importa- tion of aliens not necessarily enemy aliens to the F.M.S. to do work which the discharged soldier could easily do.

Officials were elected pro fem, until the first annual general meeting in February,

the failure of the Irish as of the English Dillon--if instead of bonating, as bureaucratie action of the War Office, push their appeal outside.

this

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