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TONGKONG HANSARD REPORTS Ho the MEETINGS LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL

Session, 1916,

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KOTERMARIS DEER GETRE MEADE

THERAPION

ly, were they permitted? The amend ment ought not to be adopted, unless it was to be of general application.

OCEPTANCE BY THE GOVERNMENT, A

Mr. Hayes Fisher, replying on behalf of the Government, said the Bill had been framed on the lines of the recommend tions of the Benker's Conference. If the vote were to be considered as in any way a reward for services rendered in

should rend as follows:- Any person who is of full age and not subject to any legal incapacity and, who is serving on full pay as a member of any of the havel or military forces of the Crown, shall entitled to be registerd as a Parliament-year ary elector for any constituency for whit he would have had the necessary residence qualification but for such service: Pro vided that in) any such person shall be entitled to be registered for any con- stituency in which he may for the time being be serving or in which he may have an actual residence qualification formiat waking an application to the registration officer of that constituency and making a declaration in the prescribed form that he has taken reasonable steps to prevent his heing registered under the foregoing provision for any other constituene and (b) nothing in this provision shall prevent any such person being registered in respect of any qualification other than a residence qualification.

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THOSE CLEVER" HUNS. LBY EDWIN FOOH, THE WELL-KNOWN NOVELIST.]

The other day I was shown & very de- liento and beautiful surgical instrument: a pair of forceps for extracting, say, w fishbone from the throat. The pincers were serrated with finger-like pomts which, when brought together, closed and fitted into one another as nently and com

putty sit munian fist.

What do you

of those who had been compelled to re- Mang Germany," said the man 1 shook my head. the held regard must be had to the cases main at home in order to perform-in who sho...cs xt to me. munition works, for example as good think it cost?"

said he, and you Ninepence. service for the country, as they could have done with the lighting fores (eries of couldn't get anything like it made in No ", and the who would have liked England for less than live shitlinge. Sity to fight but had been medically rejected what you like, the Germans are a marvel- as being unft. To adopt the age of 19 lously clever ruce.

Well, so they are. I suppose there is for men and to restrict the.

"And elever is the franchise to women over 30 years of age, no denying that. would accentuate the difference in the word. They are both clever and ingeni- The argument ous, painstaking and enterprising. But, treatment of the sexes. for the amendment was very attractive. and this is the point I would make, they. It would in practice, he thought, be diff are not an original or intensive race They can cult to carry out a provision that anyone. They ve little initiative. should have the vote who had attained imitate and even improve on existing How was the re-and adulterants of all manner of things, the age of 18 and had been on active ideas. They can manufacture substitutes service in any war. gistration officer to get the necessary in some of them quite as good as the genuine forniation (Major Hunt It would be things, some of them mere worthless the duty of the military authorit yto Fakes. inform the registration offer,) He And yet, in spite of this, they have

utterly

failed, exocbt in this matter of to produce or utilise anything would be very sorry both for the if that had to be done. It would be ex of any tremely difficult to find words which produced in better style or atilised to would enable the registration officer to better advantage,

Since the war began Germany has numberless now get the right line as to whom he should

devilties that had never before been And put on and when he should not if any brought into action such amendinent were accepted.

But it was impossible to disguise the thought of by any other people. fact that there was a very strong current cach of these devilries in turn his seemned at first to be invulnerable, irresistible of opinion--from many quarters of the House and men of all parties in favour And each in turn has woner or later been Colonel L. Wilson wover, as an end of giving the franchise, at all events for defeated by the superior orginality and We have

Benz

to on the words, is of all the election after this war, to those who inventiveness of the Allies

Ve age, and to substitute"bas attained had seen netive service and attained the brought down or driven back their Zeppe

He urged that if nge of 19. While the words proposed in and aeroplanes and seaplanes. the age of 18 years. the State considered a man on reaching were quite impossible, the Government have beaten them at their own game of In less the age 19 years old enough to fight for would consider the whole matter again bomb-dropping and also in their use of bis country, and told him that be must before the Report stage, and see whether poisonous gases and liquil fire, undergo the dangers of modern warfare they could grante any form of words that Laan three years we have raised an Artuy and the risk of making the greatest sacri- would meet the circumstangas, and unke which is superior not only in number fier that my man could make in this it not at any rate extremely difficult for but in matériel and moral, strategy and world, such a man ought to have a vote the registration officer to assist such soffighting forec, to the German Army, to He was glad that the Home Secretary diers to obtain a place on the register the preparation of which they have been had omitted from the clause as it orint afl events, that register which would devating all their energies and concen- ginally appeared in the Bill the words be in operation at the next election, when trating their whole mind and employing which would have restricted the operation Parliament would be elected on which their most eminent scientists for nearly of the special provisions of this etuuse would devolve the mato work of recon 50 years.—- to the continuance of a war in which structive policy after the war. his Majesty is engaged and for a period of 12 months after the termination and that omission reinforced thereof,"

amond- the argument in favour of thr ment. The country had learned from the present war that it was necessary to have armed forces to enforce international treaties, and as, in the last resort, the use of those forces mast rest with the House, it was only fair that the men Whom the House could cominand to take tu risks of war should be represented in the House.

tion officer and the military authespand that other nations have not-

THE QUESTION OF AGN..

Sir C, Kinloch-Ceske supported the amendment. Some privilege ought to be granted to soldiers and sators. The vote ways and by the Bill to curicious He more could Nothing ubjectors. scandalous.

Capt Spender Clay and Mr. Butcher drew attention to the claims of merchant seamen to special consideration

Captain O'Neill asked, for leave to withdraw his amendment

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HUN LACK OF INVENTION. I asked my friend who showed me those forceps if we could not make similar He smiled the forceps in England. superior smile of the expert, and replied Bir F. Banbury thought that before the that of course we could, that all our sur amendment was withdrawn som further gical instruments were rather better than information ought to be, given us to the their best, but that, we could not make I asked him why that was so, and be intention of the Government, in regard them at anything like the sue price. to it. For instance, did they propose to explained that we had never thought it give the vote to men on service in run worth our while to lay down the open- and other theatres of war who had neveive and costly plant and machinery or

∙liks 4 to standardise the various parts of our heard a shot fired in anger, and dear the

goods as the Germans have.

don't get enough to eat, but that they vote to a soldier under 15 who lind, bren

We leave the manufacture of such set sasimilate what they do est. wounded?

Lord H. Cecil also asked whether the rate was to be given to mechanics of the things to private firms," aid he, "and simply go through the catural motion Royal Flying Corps employed in vari- turn them out by docens at a time eating, but the flash-giving part of wha where the Germans turn them out by the they eat just passes away without being

the plant and the assimilated, and ons parts of France, remote from the

atandardisation, we could produce the them any good.quently down not do Sir G. Cave said that if the vote were firing-line. They were not, in the ordin-thousand. Given to be given as a reward they would allary sense exposed to the perils of active same articles and sell them at the same service, He agreed that it was unwork-

And so it is in other matters. be anxious to meet the demand now madeable to base the franchise on service, how price as the Germans do." In that case they would also have to con ever attractive as a programme, sider the claims of tiers-gnitiba moment the ordinary age was departed of the articles with which Germany flond you to be a "skinny and go around with workers, for instance. The

had ourselves invented, and in many went beyond the purpose of the clause exclude, midshipmen or boys like Jack were merely imitations of articles that wo which was merely to prevent anyone Cornwell. The vote was not a substitute which we had once held a monopoly. And

(Cheers) It otherwise entitled to vote from losing lus for the Military Cross.

since the ontbreak of the war we have vote or the opportunity of exercising was a function to be exercised in the in this is amply proven by the fact that because he was serving the Crown.

terests of the public, and should be en doubted whether in the end it would be trusted only to those persons who could bad to set our wits to work again, and equivalents for a vast variety of goods to the interest of soldiers and sailors exercise it for the advantage of the pub as restlt have produced substitutes or

He did make them a privileged class.

lic. As to whether 21 was the right age that we used to import from Germany

course. he pronounced no opinion.

as a matter of

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not see how the Government would accept the amendment, however mach they migh sympathize with the considerations which had been put forward,,

The

Most

of

Even their engines of war they owe to In the course of further debate Mr. T. Lough thought the aracndment would

nations. Their Fleet is modelled on the land them in a sea of trouble, and deel the superior creative genius of other Mr. Herbert Samuel said if the prined that its adoption would be a triumph lines of our own Fier. They invented Their vaunted Zeppelins ciple that having fought in the war was of militarism (Laughter.)

Sir C. Warner said the difficulties of neither the neroplane, the submarine, nor

the torpedo. to be accepted as a qualification for the franchist, the age limit of 19 would have identification would be immense, and the have proved a failure except for such to be taken out of the ameagment, for Government should not be pressed to go purposes of sea-surveying and sea-scout there were hundreds of thousands of boys further than promise consideration. under 19 at present fighting in his Majesty's forces.No. There were a large number of those youths in the Army, and in the Navy there were many thousands of gallant midshipmen and

Sir G. Cave said his personal sym- and violence of the baftied brule. boys of 1 and 18, some of whom had won immortai fare for their deeds in pathy was with those who pressed the we all know what happens to the brute the war.

The most powerful argument amendment. He did not think the claim when the humno brain gets to work on

The argument in support of the Government proposal was put forward on the ground of re- the problem of his destruction-Haily

Colonel Greig argued that if facing, as our own Silver Queen's achieve And they have not, as we have, wit danger was to be made the test for the daily franchise the line could not justly be enough to invent or dendly weapons drawn at those who were serving abroad still. Thus they are reduced to the fury 1

THE PROMISE OF THE GOVERNMENT.

was that a certain maturity and deemed to be that a soldier who at 19

warding the soldier.

ment was recognized as being necessary

of 21.

relivil upon as qualified to give an in

Mail

And

for the sacreise of the franchis, and it had fought abroad in this war could be soldiers and sailors who came within was generally held that that matarity and lligent vote at the next election after the clause, und'also, for the automatie judgment was not reached until the the war. The promise given by the Gov-placing of absent soldiers and ssilets O Major Hunt said that if the politicianernent was that they would consider the absent voters fist without having

the question before the Report stage make a claim. did not take care, when the soldiers and The promise which had been given u sailors came back from the war and behalf of the Government implied that! found they were given no power in the the subject would be considered before the government of the country they would Report stage of the Bill with a hope of very likely take that power themselves, meeting the request which had been made cong he was not sure if they would not do There were real difficulties in the way, right (Laughter and: "Hear hear,"') but he thought they could be overcome, period of six months residence, and that ***The amendment was by leave with and he would try to overcome them. He he should be registered in the constitu was substituted recognized that if the course suggested oncy in which he resided when he joined

Bir G Cave said the

drawn and there

The amendment was negatived: In the discussion on an amendment oved by Mr. Cauty to provide that every soldier and sailor on attaining the age of 21 should be placed on the regis ter without regard to the qualifying

for it an amenduent standing in the were taken Parliament would do some the Navy or Army, an den which the

name of Captain O'Neill which proposed thing cutirely new in franchise legisla that the franchise should be given to tion; but tho circahstances were excon Government proposed way that the Army every soldier or sailor who had served on tional, and he could not help feeling that authorities should be asked to make out active service in the war, and had it-those member of the forces who came a list of all soldiers with the addresses- back from the war at the age of 19 years shown in their papers, to divide the list tained the age of 19. would be very different men from what according to the counties in whichard

Major-General Sir Ivor Philipps said the feeling in the Army was that those they would have been had affairs taken addresses were situated, and to forward division the Govern gistration officers. In regard to military who fought for the country should have an ordinary course. If the amendment these county lists to the appropriate re- officers, he believed that the register of share in ruling it. (Hear, hear.) The were carried to

its wag such

Au to the men, Office reason why 19 years was put into thement would be forced to vote against dresse, was kept up to date at the War the address amendinent was because that was the off-because its form it such hat it could cial ass at which soldiers were considered Sir T. C. Warger urged that the posi- given by a soldier as the time of his er ald enough to fight for their country. Hetion of sailors in the merchant service listment was not that where his home was thought he boys under that age in the he were engaged in mine-sweeping now, the registration officer, on ascertain- Navy might be left out of account a should not be overlooked in reconsidering the correct address, would be nu- thorized to send on the paper to the con- their number was comparatively small. ing the proposal. If a soldier was old enough to fight he The amendment was formally put and stituency in which the home was

negatived without a division.

PRAESENT VOTERS..

was old enough to vote (Cheers. The amendment was essential to complete the clause of the Home Secretary, Mr. Peto moved an amendment to the

Captain O'Neill having intimated that he was prepared to hit the operation of his amendment to men, serving abroad Mr. Goldstone said he questioned great ly whether the amendment could work fairly. There were nurses and other women employed in various capacities at the front whom it would not beneft, and how about the many young men, colliers and others who were kept in the United Kingdom doing essential work, although

had consulted the War Office and the Ad- miralty, and the proposal would apply to the members of both forces, and would Home Secretary amendment to provide be embodied in the first schedule of the that the members of the forces there re Bill

An amendment was agreed to giving ferted to store of entitled not only to The amendment was negatived. be registered as Harliamentary electors but to be placed on the absent yofere list. the soldier the right to be registered in Bir G. Cave said it was intended to any constituency in which he had been insert provisions in the registration sche, serving for a period of not less than une The Home Secretary's amendment to dule under which the military and neval month authorities would give assistance to the the clause was then agreed to and pro-

the register registration officer so put on

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