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is there is a saving on other votes amounting to nearly as much, namely, $746,408. These items are 911,000 odd for the Secretariat, saving on the establish- ment, 853,130 in the Import and Exports office, where certain expenditure was not incurred, on page 10, and $401,205 unidor Public Works Extraordinary, where a number of items were not carried out. In the Post Office the saving was 806,774, Sund under the heading Public Debt 933,042. I beg to move, Sir, the second reading.

A meeting of the Hongkong Legislative Council was hid yesterday at the Council Chamber..

The following were present:- HIS EXCELLENON THE GOVERNOR, FRANCIS HENDY MAY, K.C.M.G.

HIS EXCELLENCY MAJOR-GENERAL F. H. KELLY, C.B. (Genoral Officer Command- ing Troops).

Hon. Mr. CLAUD BEVERN (Colonia! Secretary).

Hon. Mr J. H. Keur (Attorney General).

Hon. Mr. A. MTHOMSON (Colonia) Hon. Mr. W. CHATHAN, CM.G. (Director of Public Works).

Hon. Mr. C. Mcl. MESSER (Captain Superintendent of Polico),

Treasurer).

Hon. Mr. WEI YUK, C.M.G. Hon. Mr. E. A. HEVETT, C.M.G. Hon. Mr. H. E. POLLOCK, K.C.

Hon. Mr. D. LANDALE.

FINANCE COMMITTEE..

A meeting of the Financs Commit followed, the COLONIAL SECRETARY presi

the other. The object of the Trading with the Enemy Ordinanes is to prevent trade with enemy territory, including in the word trade the payment of money to persons in enemy territory. The line is ing further draw botwe:n the Trading with the Enemy Ordinance and this Bill, between persons carrying on business or resident in enemy territory on the one

The Hou, Mr. HEWETT-The Director hand, and persons resident or carrying on business outside dewy territory of Public Works made an explanation the other hand. I mention this, it with regard to the Government laying Because the word antiny "is used in

APPROPRIATION FOR 1914, The Appropriation Bill for 1914, ferred to in the Council mesting, was passed.

the two sets of Ordinances in a different in certain stocks of cont. Well, all I can Thio COLONIAL TEASURER Leconded. · The Hon. Mr. Hew-Sir, as we sense, and unless the distinction is borne say is that to lay in a stock of 1,300 tons seems an unnecessary waste of money. all know, we are called upon every year in mind some confusion is liable to be All of us who have to purchase coal know in the Winding-up perfectly well that coal was at a panio to pass a supplementary vote for the caused. Enemy expenditure of this Colony. We all Ordinano means persons of enemy price for a few days, but after that the realise that under the abnormal condi- nationality, Emmy" in this Bill, and pries remained stationary. It does seem tiens under which we are living a great in the principal Ordinance (Trading to me to be a waste of money to lay in many of this items have been increased; with the Enemy Ordinance) means, possibly some have been decreased. As broadly speaking, persons carrying on to the attitude which the Government business or resident in enemy territory, now takes up to meet existing conditions, so that transactions prohibited in this there is only one item in the Bill before Bill, Sir, are transactions by cr on behalf us to which I propose to refer, and that of persons in enemy territory.

The

a stock like that,

The CHAIRMAN-I do not think it was

The Hon. Mr. HEWITT-Well, it does done with a view to purchasing it

em a serious waste.

The CHAIRMAN-It was not bought at

The DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS

is the expenditure of 386.100.18 Public second Clause of the Bill simply, applies a. high price. Works Recurrent. The Colonial Secreto the war with Turkey, the provisions tary referred to two or three of these have already been applied to the case of

Hon. M. HEwert-Well, you coulé ed to me to be, a red herring across the 3 and 4 dial with certain transfers of have have bought it when you wanted it items briefly, and he dragged, what seem-Germany and Austria-Hungary, Clauses It was bought at contract patice, Mr. A. G. M. FLETCHER (Clerk of Coun path when he mentioned the item of different forms of property by or ou oils).

Hon. Mr. E. SILLIN

Hon. Mr. YAE CHE PAE.

MINUTES.

FINANCIAL MINUTES.

and moved that they be referred to the Finance Committee.

The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and the motion was agreed to.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of His Excellency the Governor, laid on the table the report of the Finance Con- mittee held

on May 6th, and moved that it be adopted.

The COLONIAL, Treasurer seconded, and the motion was agreed to.

PATERS.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by com mand of His Excellency the Governor, laid on the table the annual report of the Kowloon-Canton Railway (British Sec- tion), for 1914, and also the report of the Royal Observatory for the year, 1914.

ADDITIONAL CEMETERY: DYE-LAW,

to be

Hon. MR. HEWETT-I trust my re marks will appear in Hanard in full, and not be deleted.

MISCELLANEOUS. SERVICES.

$21.933 for Public Works Extraordinary, behalf of alion enemies in the service of at contract price. Now you have to stor which did not come into the rots at all, persons in enemy territory. The hrst, and pay for storage and fire insur-

The DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS The minutes of the previons meeting because that particular vero-applied only part of Clans: 3 deals with the invalidity ance and all that sort of thing.

to Public Works Recurrent. The point of any assignments of debts or other. It does not cost any money to store it, were confirmed.

I wish to emphasise is one which I have choses in action such as shares, and,

Hon. Mr. HAWETT-I should like to brought before ths Council on more shortly, the effect of that Claus, is that

I think a more such transfers are valid provided they refer to the remarks of the Director of Public Works with regard to the main- The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command occasions than cna. of His Excellency the Governor, laid on closely calculated estimate should be put were made before the war or by leave of tenance of roads, and bridges, and so on. the table Financial Minutes Nos. 12 to 16, before us at the time of the annual Bud- the Governar or in good faith and for I would like to suggest, in regard to the get for Public Works Recurrent Nearly value consideration before 8th May: reducing of expenditure, that he should all that incrcass of $90,000 odd was made 1915, that is the day following the dat up by maintenance of buildings, main on which thi Bil, Sir, was first pubnet undertake any serious repair of roads tenance of roads and bridges,, mainten- lished in the Gazette. The second part at the commencement of the web season. ance of city and hill district and so on. of the Clouse deals with special cases of At present, important roads are opened While it is admitted that the last item bills of exchange and promissory notes, and are all liable to suffer from tor referred to is due to a larger stock of and transfers of these made by or on berential rains. I cannot see why this sort coil being laid in, I cannot suppose half-of enemies are valid only either of work was not done before, There are

where a great deal of work was wast that the bulk of $18,000 would be account before the war or if made in good faith several spots in the town at this moment ed for by coal; the Government surely and for value before the 8th May, 1915, last week because it was undertaken a does not lay in such large stocks of coal Clause 4 dels with special cases of this time of the year. Why was it not as that. Another item is maintenance of shares in Companies, and the transfer of undertaken two or three months ago, when there were long spells of find ronds and bridges $7,000, and so it goes shares e Companies by or in behalf of or. Then there are increases in prices an enemy are declared to be invalid if of 20. 23, and 28 per cent and a wmade after the passing of this Ordinares weather? I do not often have the oppor Surely the Public Works Department unless leave has been given by the tunity of criticising the waste of money by the Public Works Department in this ought to be able to draw up thair Governor for the transaction

Colony, but it is a point I want to press Persons who pa home to the Government. Apparently it estimates closer than this, and to be so carried through. much in touch with what is going on in debts or give up property, or register does not matter to the bon, member the Colony that there should not be such transfers which are prohibited and opposite (the Director of Public Works) an excessive amount asked for in the rendered invalid by this Ordinance will because he does not take any notics supplementary vote? That is the only be committing offences against the prin

THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS→→→→ point I wish to make. I realise the diffi-ciple of this Ordinance, and will be liable anything that is said to him. culties of making estimates in advance, to punishment accordingly. Clause 5 You have to undertake this work as but wo as busincemen have all got to 9ir, is an att mpt to make it quite clear it is required. I can imagine that the do that, and it depends upon whether that in addition to the actual offence of Department would come in for very The COLONIAL SECRETARY moved that the estimates are correct or incorrect trading with the enemy it is also an severe criticism if it adopted the methods there shall be added to the Cemetery Bye whether we are going to havs a profitable offence to attempt, by any means whatso which my hon friend opposite thinks it laws published on pages 11 to 13 of the year or finish up in the Dankruptcy ever, direct or indirect, or to incite by should adopt.

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any means, any person to commit the Regulations of Hongkong, 1914," as The DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. offence of trading with the enemy. The amended by the Legislative Council on With regard to the question of catimat attempt and the incitement are clearly day of January, 1915, and pubing raised by the hon. member opposite, declared to be offences Clause 0 deals it is impossible for one to for cast what with more or less jechnical points, and lished in the Casting the gems), Janur., tenders will be received for the execution provins foregoing by-laws shall not apply to the for anyone to be able to anticipate them. Ordinance to make a search that the Printing and Binding Regulations

Yutione that enter obliged to give information to an Inspec hundred and sighty-five,dollars in aid of

anther the principal the following votes:- Chinese Permanent Cemetery at Aber-

In the neo, for instane, of the main- information he gives may be used after- deen."

tenance of buildings, if the hon. meinbrwards in evidence against him. Claus Remuneration to Mr. P. M. Hodg

of Hongkong, New Edition :1/81,085 pposite will look at page 13 of the 7, St, gives you power to appoint a

son for the preparation of the details supplied be will see that the excrys supervisor of any business in any case The COLONIAL SECRETARY hoved the was $14,000, while on $61,000, the amount where you may think it is advisable. I

Regulations of Hongkong, New Edition second reading of the Bill intituled, estimated to be spent, an increase of 21 beg to move the second reading,

Council then went into Committee to "An Ordinanc; to authorize the appro- per cent. in the contract prics amounts priation of a supplementary sum

to $12.000, so that there was a margin of consider the Bill cunse by clause. about $2,000 that was in excess" of "the On Clause-4, $787,252.26, to defray the charges of the estimate, assuming that the contract had, Th ATTORNEY-GENERAL year 1914" In doing so he saidu obtained at the same price as pre-sertion, before the word "no," in the Sir, the bulk of the expenditure to bridge, the 23 per cent, represents & sum

vious years. In the case of roads and first sub-section, the words. "unless made.

by leave of the Governor." be ineured in this Bill arises from three of roughly $16,000, and as tha Colonial

The COLONIAL SECRETARY sconded, and causes. The first is the change of policy Sentary has informed, the Low, it was agreed to in regard to the demozetising of subsidi- the introduction of an improved method bor, a great alteration has been made,in,

ary coinage, which, 1 ď′ tó au increase in of surfacing roads. That has been the the amount, voted of nearly $420,000. subjet of much comment in past years, Secudly, there was the outbreak of war. treated, and I presume that members are the inefficient way in which roads were The gira expenditure on account of war better pleased and satisfied with the was altogether over $200,000, Thera is method now being adopted. Certainly

The ATTORNEY-GENERAT word about $70.000 for miscellaneous expenses, much improved condition and the Ordinancs to attend the Rating Ordis the reads, mang of them are in a very second rating of the Bill intulede An

andytm which has been adopted. Objets and Reasons. It is to give the til to vote a sum of five hundred dollars $98,000 odd for the Prince of Wales' darirages suffered by the roads from rain nunc, 1301." In doing so he said-

storms and typhoons are very much less The object of the Bill is stated in the So that whilst there is au strat expendi Governor-in-Council power to authorise ture under the heading Roads and the total or partial examption from aid of the vote Miso lancons Berries, Fridges, there is a vast decrease in the assement of any hostel attached to the bus to Mr. F. H. d'Aquino, the fent for the maintenance of water Conncil went into Committes to con-d'Aquino in consideration of his 50 years damages by rain storas. In the case of University of Hongkong,

The CHATEMAN-This is brought for ward as a special vote to Mr. E D works, etc., there was a large stock of sider the Bill clans by clause. goal aid in. I am unable to qnots The Bill pass through Committee faithful service in the Government of

without amendment," and "on"

Hongkong. suming,

Hon. Mr. Hewern-I am sure, Sir The AuraRKES-GENERAL mod the third the unofficial members most cordially

endorse that vote. "reading of the Bill,

The CHIRMAY-Thank you,

APPROPRIATION.

of

figurez h:cause I was not here at the time, but the quantity was very substantial and the amount involved was also very sub- stantial. I think, Sir, that is all I have

The Governor recommended the Coun- Chan har |

mot, d thic

moved the

On Council resuming. The ATTORNEY GENERAL third reading of the Bill. #

The COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded, and the Bill was rend a third time and passed.

RATING ORDINANCE.

the

Council

to say in reply to the hon. mender Phe COLONIAL SECRETARY secunded, and the Bill was read a third time and opposite.

s thinusnad bro

Tutal

500

$1,595

The CHAIRMANThis is an item in connection with the new editions of tho Regulations of Hongkong.

The vale-was approved-

MILITARY EXPENDITURE

The Governor commended the Coun- eil to vote a sum of four thousand two hundred dollars in aid of the vote. Mili- tary Expenditure, B-Volunteers, Other Charges. Volunteer Rezerve, Uniform,

The CHAIRMAN-The chief, item which: go to make up this sum are uniforms for the Reserves, and the estimate is expected to cover all the cost of new members joining up to the end of this incurred is $2,709. year. At present the amount we have

CONCE.

The Governor recommended the Coun-

"PUBLIC" "WORKS.

MACGREGOR&Co. Fund, and also increases under the heads of Printing and Telegrams and Yolun teer Votes. The suns in these items, WINE & SPIRIT MERCHANTS, Printing. Telegrams and Volunteer Votes, amounted to about $23,000 up to the end of the rear.

Thirdly, there is a suur of 860,000 for the West River Relief Fund. The only other sums of any size which are not provided in the estimates were under the headings of Police, $12,000 odd for the passages of Police and bonuses in lie of passages, $6,000 for. Secret Service, $1,600 for a new Police"lanteh, "and"}

The COLONIAL Securrany---With regard passid.

the point made by the hon. 1 under the Sanitary Board 97,200 for s

meinher as to the balanes of $86,109 The ATTORNEY-GENERAL new towing barge to take the place of one quired for Public Works Recurrent, first reading of a Bill intituled,

that was taken into consideration in Ordinance to amend the Dentistry Ordi which was lost in the typhoon of Septem- drawing up the estimats for the current nance, 1914,"

The CIAN-I explained to the b. 1013 When the estimates were drawu year. and it is not expected that there

hon. members just now that it is no The COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded.

oxpected to have any excess under Public ap it had not bend cided in what way required. The provision which has been! The objects and

will be any such sum, or any sum."; and the Bill was read a first time..

Works Recurrent during the present year. the less should be replaced. Under the made is expected to cover the whole of though it is probable that the words supplementary vote is to enable certain reasons state that as ample provisions has been made. This heading of Public Works Recurrent the half-year. With regard to the coal, which this Bill proposes to repeal were kerbing and channelling to be done in there is an amount of $13.072 which was the amount spent was not what was put instrued in the Principal Ordinance with connection with the erection of buildings incurred in connection with the mainten down; there was something like 1,500 tons, the object of restricting the administra in Kowloon. The number of houses re- ance of buildings owing to the great in coal laid in; it is stored as Tytam tion of anesthetics by unqualified per-cently erected in Kowloon has made more cres in the contract prices of the pre Tik vious year which was unforeseen when the

TRADING WITH THE ENEMY. estimates were prepared. The extra sun The ATTORNEY-GENERALMGYd

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The Governor recommended the Coun cil to vote a sum of five, thousand dollars in aid of the vote Public Works; Extra ordinary, Kowloon, Communications, Roads, General Works.

B, yet the fear has been expressed that extensive works necessary. then was con- they might be interpreted by soms regis-templated when the estimates were drawn tered dental surgeons or exempted per up. The ordinary procedure is that whon of 845,051 was spent in the maintenance second reading of ths Bill intituled, An ter general anaesthetics, and that they channels are placed in front of them, and the sons as a definit, invitation to adminis a building is completed footpaths and of reads and bridges in the city. This Ordinanes to amend the Trading with the might afford sa undesirable defence in eisa thay are put in a proper order, or other increase is due to the change of policy Enemy Ordinance, 1914, and for purposes of an untoward result following the ad-wise insanitary conditions arise. adopted after the passing of the estimates conn:cted therewith." In doing so he ministration of a general anesthetic by which led to the use of improved surfac said: -- ing materials.

There is also an advance

a dentist with no training in thus import

ESTATE DUTY,

The vote was agreed to.

FOR CHARITY.

in the contract price. An extra sum of In considering this subject, it is im- ant branch of medical scienes. The effect The Governor recommended the Coun $15.855 was expended in the purchase of portant. I think, to bear in mind the of the proposed amendment will be to as cil to vote a sum of five hundred and sixty coal on the cutbreak of war. That will distinction between the subject matter of similate the law of the Colony to the dollars in aid of the vote Charitable Ser lead to a reduced expenditure later on the Trading with the Enemy Ordinance law at present in fores in the United vices, Passages and Relief of Destitutes. Unda Public Works Extraordinary then the subject matter of the Allen Kingdom on this point,

The CHALEYAN—This vete is very award of the arbitrator and architect's Enemies (Winding-up) Ordinanca The

severely taxed during the war Wo fees for completing the payments in con- Winding-up Ordinance is intended to HIS EXCELLENCY-The next item on

get various people sent oa here from var fous places, and it is impossible to allow nection with the new Law Courts amount provide for the winding up of the busi the orders of the day, the second read them to stay in Hongkong, and the only ed to 821,933. Had it not been for the ages and affairs of the persons of chenying of the Bill intituled, An Ordinance thing we can do is to take the first opper change of policy as regards the demoneti-nationality whom it was found necessary to provids for the levy of Estate Duty tunity of sending them to England f sing the sub, coin, and also the war, the to expel or intent, and under this payable in respect to the estates of deccas neccesary, or to some other suitable place amount to be provided in this Bill, Sir. Ordinance the line is drawn betw.en pred persons," will act be proceded with. I am afraid that it is impossible to fore would have been small compared with. sons of eusiny nationality on the ore Council stands adjourned till this day cast what will be required. previous years. But large as the sum hand and British subiccts and neutrale on fortnight.

The vote was agreed to.