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A meeting of the Hongkong Legislative Council was bold yesterday at the Council Chamber.

The following were present:

His EXCELLENOY THE GOVERNOR, AIR FRANOIS HENRY MAY, K.C.M.G..

HIS EXUELLENOY MAJOR-GENERAL F. H. KELLY, C.B. (General Officer Command- ing Troops).

Hon. Mr. CLAUD SEVERN (Colonial Secretary)....

Hon Mr. J. H. KEMP (Attorney, General).

Hon. Mr. E. D. C. WOLE (Colonial Troasurer).

Hon, Mr. A. F. CHUROHILL (Director of Public Works).

Hon. Mr. E. R. HALLIFAX (Secretary. for Chinese Affairs).

Hon. Mr. O. Mol. Maxx (Captain) Superintendent of Police),

Hon. Mr. WEI YUK, C.M.G. Hon. Mr. H. E. POLLOCK, K,C, Hon. Mr. E. A. Hewer, C.M.G Hon. Mr. D. Landals.

Hon. Mr. Lau CHU PAK....

Mr. M.J BREEN (Clerk of Councils). MINUTES The minutes were confirmed.

of the previous meeting

PAPERS.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of His Excellency the Governor, laid on the table the following papers:- Quarterly Return of Excesses on Sub- heads gint by Savings under Heads of Expenditure for the second quarter of 1014; Half-Yearly Diagram showing progress of the work on the dam at Tytamtuk

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The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of bis Excellency the Governor, laid on the table the Report of the Finance Com mittee (No. 10), and moved its adoption.

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H18 EXCELLENCY-This clause has been very carefully considered, and in the circumstances it is considered desirable to give such power.

On Council resuming,

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL reported that the Bill had passed through Committee without amendment, and moved that it be read a third time.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY Seconded, and

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tions against piracy. The present law provides that whore an owner fails to observe precautions he can be proceded against at once, where a piracy has occurred. In the third place, the present law is defective in its procedure with regard to the forfeiting of the sum secured by the bond. There is no provi sion for giving notice to the owner of any proceedings for forfeiture, and no

The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and the Bill was read a third time and passed. provision for the furnishing of any

the motion was agreed to.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of his Excellency the Governor, laid on the table Finans al Minutes Nos. 41 and

12, and moved that they be referred to

the Finance Committee.

The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and the motion was agreed to.

the

THE DEPORTATION ORDINANCE The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved second reading of the Bill entitled," An Ordinance to amend the Deportation Ordinance, 1912 and 1919. In doing so he said The objects of this Bül, Sir, can be divided into two classes, one dealing with minor questions of pro edure, the other with substantive provisions. The class dealing with ques lions of procedure is divded into two heads. Ons relates to the proposal that detention warrants should issued by his Excellency, and not by the Governor-in- Council, The other refers to the pro- cedure before a Magistrate, sud provides that a Magistrate may in all cases, whether an offender is guilty or not, deal with a case of returning from banishment and imprison him for any term not exceeding

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can be dealt with when the Bill is in Com- views after very careful consideration. I mittee. This letter puts forward our think it is realised I realise it, and I think my hon, friend opposite (Hon. Mr. Landale) will confirm me that there is very little profit in this coolie business, but it must be carried on in the interest of this Colony's trade with Singapore and other colonies. The profit is very small, and if vessels are called upon to inour

opportunity to such owner of appearing and showing cause against such order. The ATTORNEY - GENREAL moved the With a view to making the observance of second reading of the Bill entitled, "An precautions against piracy more real, the Ordinance to amend the Widows and Bill enacts that it shall be a misdemean

our for any ship or launch to which the Orphans' Pension Ordinance, 1909." In doing so he said-The object of this Bill Bill applies to go to sen without being Sir, is simple. It is to provide that the provided with the bond required. It also great expense they will go out of the business altogether, and that will mean contributors to the fund shall include makes it a misdemeanour to give any

an increase of coolie labour at other police officers below the rank of sergeant order, or make any threat, or hold out centres, or it means that the Chinese will whose marriages have received the inducement which may have the effect of not travel by the Canton steamers, but will take the railway. I take it that approval of the Captain Superintendent inducing any person to fail to observe the that is not the intention of the Govern of Police, either before such marriage or provisions of the Ordinance or regula mont. The intention of the Government after such marriage. I understand all tions made thereunder. The Bill, Sir, is to encourage trade; certainly not to existing members of the fores who will also contains various minor provisions handicap shipowners to such an extent as to cause them to say they have been be affected by this wish to join the fund. consequential on the main objects of it.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY Seconded, and The only one I think necessary to men-driven out of the business by excessive and vexatious regulations. The question tion at this stage is that under of guards, as set forth in this letter, is the Bill was read a second time.

Council then went into Committee to the regulations to be made under the Bill another serious point. Shipping com. panics cannot possibly afford to have consider the Bill clause by clause.

these expensive guards on a section of their voyage, as their employment would On resuming,

probably in itself eat up the full profits of the trade. I would ask your Excel lency, therefore, when this Bill goes into of this Bill to any ship of ocean-going Committee, to eliminate the application type, and to consider, and, I trust, finally adopt, the suggestions which the Chamber of Commerce have put forward with regard to a modification of the regula- tions relating to Macao and steamers.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL reported that the Bill had passed through Committee without amendment, and moved that it

be read a third time.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded, and

one year. The clause dealing with the the Bill was read a third time and passed.

The

to

when passed, it is proposed that owners of skamers and launches should be liable pay to the Colonial Treasurer a certain sum for the watchmen and guards to be maintained on the steamers, as it is intended that such watchmen and guards shall be supplied, on application to the Captain Superintendent of Police, to each steamer as required, and that liability to supply watchmen and guards is provided

for in clause 18 of the Bill.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded the

motion.

(b.)-RIVER STRAMEILS

Clause 10

(1010-2

on

Generally the

Regulations regards River Craft, are excellent and are likely to attain the desired purpose. The exceptions ho

however, are takon te them:-

is regarded as impractic able. There

is no buggage room River Steamers and Chinese passengers will not be separated from their belongings. One can imagine the utter confusion and the amount of thieving which would occur. upon passengers endeavouring to reclaim their huggage at the end of the voyage, and no check system is likely to prove in the feast affective.

The time required for clearing the Customs at Canton and other ports would be so great as to act as a serious deterrent to the liver

Grade.

For these reasons my Committee consider that Clause 10 should be eliminated.

Clanso 13, which states:-

“If deck cargo is to be carried provision shall be made for partitioning it off and securing it in such a way that it shall' be inaccessible to any person throughout the voyage without the authority of the Buster"

could not be made practicable, as all cargu in river steamers is carried on the lower deck among third class passingers. River steamers are not fitted with winches to work manner as coasting steamers. cargo in and out of the holds in the same Not only would it be impossible to place all cargo in the holds, the expense of handling would the prohibitive. Further, fresh vegetabils fruits, and live fish could not in carried in

river the holds.

My Committee suggest that this clause: should be remodelled to read.

“If deck cargo is to be carried other than cargo from Europe and America shipped on through Bills of Lading and import and oxport cargo shipped by European" firms known to the River Company under English Bill of Lading,. and live stock. live fish, frein, vegetables and fruits it shall be speured in sanİL manner to be inaccessible to any passenger throughout the voyage without the authority of the master.'

PIRACY PREVENTION ORDINANCE. substantive provisions falls into two

ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the classes. One lays down more clearly than

HIS EXCELLENCY-As I mentioned to had been done in the previous Ordinance second reading of the Bill entitled, "An

the hon. member just now, this letter is dated the 18th and it has not yet received the fact that the procedure under section Ordinance to amend the law relating to

Hon Mr. HEWETT Your Excellency, consideration. There has not been time 4, which involves the putting of questions the observance of precautions against to the proposed deportee and calling piracy." In doing so he said--The object before this Bill goes any further, I to give it consideration. The Govern that being we will postpone going witnesses on his behalf, should not apply of this Bill, Sir, is to amend certain should like on behalf of the shipping ment are prepared to consider it, and, defects which have been found to exist trade of Hongkong and the Chamber of Costs on the Bill until nex to certain cases where more summary pro-

Commerce to make a few remarks. This meeting. At the same time, I would just cedure has been adopted, and is supposed in the present law dealing with precau to be sufficient. Those cases are where a tions to be observed against piracy. The Bill has been passed down to the Chamlike to refer to one point. The letter passed without the above alterations, will

If the Government insists on partitions man is convicted in this Colony, where a present law is contained in two Ordiner of Commerce, sud, as your Excellency says,The result of this legislation, if

is aware, very carefully considered, not be to divert the native passenger trade heing constructed to make cargo inaccessible man is banished from the Straits Settle ances, one of 1900 and the other of 1913, only by the whole of my own committee from the river steamers to the railway to fleek passengers, such partitions are ments and other similar cases where no and provides for the giving of a bond by but at a committee meeting at which instead of making the steamers more likely to cause serious loss of life in caso special investigation into the facts of the the

of collision as passengers will be prevented owners, agents, charterers and were represented all the agents or owners

secure against piracy." That seems to caso were considered to be necessary. The licencees of river trade steamers and of river, Macao or coasting steamers have weighed a good deal with the hon. from leaving the ship

engaged in the Chinese passenger trade, member, but he hat possibly not then

In the case of the fire on the Tai On, if other, the second clause, is perhaps the launches for the observance of precautions and consequently of boats presumably heard that the night train to Canton was such regulations had been in force, probably most important part of the Bill. Under against piracy, and certain provisions for open to piratical attacks. The finding of held up by 300 robbers, one tonn being no lives would have been saved.

The result of this legislation, if passed that Committee was put before your the former Deportation Ordinance it enforcing that bond in case the precau Excellency, in a letter dated 18th killed and several others wounded, and

some $50,000 looted from the train, I without the above alterations, will be, ti might have been argued that the powers tions are not observed. It has been found August, and I was hoping thot either don't think the Chamber of Commerce, divert the entire native passenger trade steamers to the railway: of deportation applied to British subjects. that the law is defective in three main your Excellency or the Colonial Secre who are interested in shipping, need have from the rivo This Bill lays down clearly that except respects. In the first place, it does not tary would refer to it.

HIS EXCELLENCY The letter is dated the least fear that the traffic will be instead of making the steamets more secure in certain specific cases it shall not apply apply to all ships, launches and lighters the 18th August, and it was received at

reverted to the railway. It is very desir against piracy.

(4)In view of the above, expression of able that drastic measures against the

carefully considered opinion, my to any natural born or naturalised to which it is considered desirable it the C.8.0. on that date.

Committee, believe, that the Clovern- subjects of his Majesty, except in one case should apply. For example, it does not Hon. Mr. HEWETTIt ought to have pirates should be taken, and drastic measures will have to be taken, within

ment will be unable to apply the where power is now given to deport which apply to river trade steaners going westen I am representing at the moment are wilt consider any reasonable proposals been sent in before, anyway. The gentle. reason, of course, but the Government

same Regulations to Ocean-Going Craft as to River Stenners. was not given before; that is in the case along the coast from Macro, and it does entirely in accord with your Excellency that are made. of a person born in the Colony of parents not apply to steamers going along the that all possible steps should be taken to neither of whom is a Britisk subject, const in the other direction. Though it prevent possible piratical raids on coast and river steamers, but our objections provided such person has not obtained a applies to steamers going to ports in the to the existing Bill are very fully set certificate of British birth or registered | interior of the neighbouring province of forward, after very careful consideration, at a British Consulate in China as a Kwangtung it does not apply to steamers in the letter which your Excellency has person entitled to protection in China. going to coast ports. This Bill provides just shown ine, and which I am sorry to say reached you on, the 18th instead of The COLONIAL SECRETARY, seconded, and

the 15th instant. The question having the Bill was read a second time.

been very carefully considered, the main Council then went into Committee to

point we wish to make is that the provi sions of this Ordinance, and the regula consider the Bill clause by clause.

tious, are absolutely impracticable as far On Clause 2

as ocean-going steamers are concerned. That being so, if this Bill is to take any effect at all it cannot possibly be made That to apply to ocean-going vessels. narrows it down to the question of how far these proposed regulations can be for the greater part, but there are one or two objections, particularly the separa- tion of the Chinese from their luggage and the erection of wire entanglements. There are one or two other points which

Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-I would ask whe ther it is considered desirable to extend the immunity to naturalised subjects?

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL-It is possible.

that precautions against piracy shall be observed by ships proceeding on voyages defined by section 3 of the Bill. The Bill gives much wider scope than former Ordinances, and appears to cover all voyages in which piratical attacks are likely to occur. In the second place there was no power under the old law to estreat a bond and forfeit the same prior to the

at present to deport a British subject I event of a case where a piracy has actual applied to river steamers. They can be

not belonging to Hongkong, but it might be argued, even under the present law, that there is no power in other cases to deport a naturalised subjecti

ly occurred. It does not seem desirable to have to wait until a piracy has been committed on a steamer before enforcing the owners andertaking to observe precau-

The Bill was read a second time,

LETFEE FROM CHAMBER OF COMMERCE The letter referred to by Hon. Mr. Hewitt is as follows:

Hongkong, 18th August, 1914: S, A Special Mosting of my Committee was held on Wednesday, the 12th instant, to consider the Draft Bill, and Draft Regnio- tions to be made thereunder, for the better. prevention of piracy of vessels trading from The this Colony RYAN PE

(2.) At this Meeting there attended, at the invitation of my Committee, representatives of the principal owners of Coasting and River Craft, ((6.)—-1 am directed to convey to you the opinions unanimously expressed by those present. (a.)—COASTERS,

I canot do better than attach hereto the considered views of one of the principal owners of coasters which views were fully endorsed by those present at the special meeting above referred to.

I am to request you to be good enough to convey to His Excellency the Governor the thanks and appreciation of my Committee for his courtesy in referring this most- important matter to this Chamber for considemtion,

I have the honour to be.

Sir. Sa

Your obedient servant,

Honourable,

Secretary,

The Colonial Secretary. PREVENTION OF BIRACY, HEGULATIONS.

The following is the report of the Chan ber of Commerce which was enclosed with. the above communication so

Cousidoration of-the-proposal regulations, in our judgment, shows that they are not well designed to cover the varied conditions under

which vessels" with .or without nassengers make the voyages specified in the Bill without induc, and in such cases up- welcomed. apolication, and we take the opportunity of making the following com ments on them.

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